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00:10 VanessaE even NF
00:10 VanessaE evening, too
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00:11 vortexlabs hello
00:11 NakedFury hey
00:11 VanessaE hey
00:12 khonkhortisan git pull; cd make; make; http://pastebin.com/d2wKgdat
00:12 khonkhortisan now I can't play anymore
00:12 VanessaE pull from an older commit or grab 0.4.1-stable
00:13 VanessaE c55's implementing some kind of rollback feature right now
00:13 VanessaE commits won't be stable for a bit
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00:16 OWNSyouAll VanessaE: like rolling back changes a player made?
00:16 VanessaE yes
00:17 VanessaE anti-griefing stuff
00:17 OWNSyouAll D:
00:17 OWNSyouAll thats awesome
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00:43 khonkhortisan 21:29 <VanessaE> 15:29:17: ERROR[main]: Could not find or load game "minetest"
00:43 khonkhortisan what did you rename to fix that?
00:52 VanessaE did you download the minetest_game repository also?
00:52 VanessaE https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game
00:53 VanessaE download the zip of that ^^, unzip it, rename the resultant folder to "minetest_game" and put it in celeron55-minetest-blahblah/games
00:53 khonkhortisan I have it in git in the correct location
00:56 VanessaE but is it named correctly?
00:56 khonkhortisan yes, unless the naming style changed recently
00:56 khonkhortisan games/minetest_game
00:57 VanessaE right
00:57 VanessaE but what's inside?
00:57 khonkhortisan game.conf .git .gitignore mods README.txt
00:57 VanessaE huh.  it should work?
01:00 VanessaE otherwise I really don't know what would be wrong
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02:27 GTRsdk I get like 30 FPS on my N450 now :D
02:27 GTRsdk as a max though
02:38 OWNSuAll how do you unlimit your fps?
02:38 GTRsdk unlimit it?
02:38 GTRsdk you need unlimited hardware
02:39 OWNSuAll no minetest locks it at 60fps max
02:40 GTRsdk hmm... I think VanessaE heard of some 70-something FPS
02:41 VanessaE some hardware can do 75 Hz
02:41 VanessaE some less common monitors can max out at 120
02:41 GTRsdk hmm... I'm no longer using 100% CPU (definitely hitting a GPU limit now)
02:41 vortexlabs When I play minetest, i use 100% cpu
02:42 vortexlabs dem pentium 4's
02:42 VanessaE as for minetest peaking at 60 fps, why care?  no one but a select few can see more than that anyway
02:43 GTRsdk vortexlabs: which OS?:
02:43 vortexlabs winxp home
02:43 GTRsdk woah... I got like 48 FPS max when looking at the sky
02:43 vortexlabs I got upto
02:43 vortexlabs 60
02:43 vortexlabs when looking at the sky
02:43 GTRsdk woah... 60 FPS looking at the sky :D
02:43 GTRsdk (though not at the clouds)
02:44 GTRsdk and at like 50% CPU
02:44 vortexlabs oh i was looking at clouds
02:44 GTRsdk wait I was lookign at the ground with fog enabled
02:45 GTRsdk looking at the clouds got me a max of 48
02:45 SmugLeaf i used to get 200 FPS
02:45 GTRsdk walking around brings me to 3 - 15
02:45 vortexlabs i have fog disbled and low sight range or whatever its called
02:45 SmugLeaf in minetest
02:45 GTRsdk if I have fog enabled while walking/exploring, I can do 15 - 30 FPS
02:47 GTRsdk with CPU usage of like 75% - 100%
02:48 GTRsdk so I think I've gained about +5 FPS
03:12 vortexlabs gtg
03:12 vortexlabs bye
03:38 GTRsdk strange... only now did I get the minetest server to shut down randomly
03:40 VanessaE yay, my texture packs are updated for the latest unifieddyes and vessels.
03:40 * VanessaE <-- bored.
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03:50 vicscandl VanessaE: so i've not really played on any multiuser systems... suggestions?
03:50 vicscandl (or anyone else for that matter)
03:50 VanessaE redcrab.suret.net 30401 (need to ask on the forums for build privs)
03:50 VanessaE that one's fun to play on
03:52 vicscandl thx
03:52 vicscandl i'll try that one now.
03:54 vicscandl :( no workie 4.1-latest
03:54 VanessaE it's not 4.1, its 0.4.1
03:54 VanessaE and no, his doesn't work with anything over 0.4.0
03:54 VanessaE sorry, forgot to say that
03:54 vicscandl no worries, i'm learnin... :)
03:55 VanessaE actually 0.4.1-stable should work come to think of it
03:55 VanessaE just not 0.4.x from recent git
03:55 VanessaE (because of changes in the server<->client protocol)
03:55 vicscandl saw that update to snow biomes today...
03:55 vicscandl nice work on the blending!
03:56 VanessaE blending?
03:56 vicscandl changing the biome borders from blocky to "smooth"
03:56 VanessaE I haven't tried that mod yet, I'm waiting for a standard to emerge..there are like 3 competing mods
03:56 vicscandl sorry, thought i saw a response from you on the forums on that one...
03:57 * GTRsdk makes note to git checkout stable-0.4
03:57 VanessaE (mauvebic's 4seasons, the one you mentioned, and I forget what the third was)
03:57 VanessaE haha, you think I remember what I comment on anymore? :-)
03:58 vicscandl yea, i had 4seasons loaded a bit ago, but i'm waiting for him to end his forking and start using a spork or something...
03:58 VanessaE haha
03:58 vicscandl VanessaE: i'm old, i forget faster
03:58 * VanessaE <- 38.  old enough to forget this morning's breakfast :-)
03:58 vicscandl notch! same age, perfect
03:59 VanessaE NOOO!
03:59 VanessaE G*d no
03:59 VanessaE (he's 38?)
03:59 vicscandl aye, i am
03:59 vicscandl funny shit
03:59 VanessaE oh, notch != Notch :-)
04:00 vicscandl aye notch != Notch
04:00 vicscandl s/notch/sweet/
04:00 VanessaE ah better :-)
04:02 vicscandl going to use minetest and modding it to get my kid into programming... this is so effing perfect
04:02 VanessaE absolutely
04:02 VanessaE easy to see your results
04:02 vicscandl 100%
04:02 vicscandl not hard to spawn a new server or world in seconds
04:03 VanessaE you should have him play around with some of my code.  it ain't perfect by c55's standards, but the work :-)
04:03 VanessaE the/they -> the mods
04:03 vicscandl oooo c55 a code-lint hooker?
04:03 VanessaE eh?
04:03 vicscandl [hooker != bad meaning]
04:04 vicscandl code-lint (old unix cli that cleans code to a specific set of standards, mostly sed/awk scripts)
04:04 VanessaE ohhh
04:04 * vicscandl is an old school nerd...
04:04 VanessaE well it's not quite that picky, more like my coding style and what I make my mods do isn't up to his preference :-)
04:05 vicscandl i'm hard on clean ass code here at the office...
04:05 vicscandl if i can't read it, you ain't gettin paid.
04:05 VanessaE yeah but what about clean *program* code?
04:05 VanessaE I mean, ass code has to be clean or it'll stink
04:06 vicscandl readability, proper commenting, use of some sort of repository
04:06 VanessaE but unclean *program* code can cause data loss ;-)
04:06 VanessaE all my textures and mods are on github :-)
04:06 vicscandl standards, in basic.
04:06 vicscandl VanessaE: lol, ass code
04:07 vicscandl s/clean\sass/clean-ass/
04:07 GTRsdk what are the reasons a server woudl just start randomly shutting down?
04:07 vicscandl oh, i love the heck out of that... single script with all your git refs, full update of code in seconds?
04:07 vicscandl i'll take two, please.
04:07 VanessaE GTRsdk: corrupted map, broken entities (/clearobjects), poor mod code
04:08 VanessaE heh, I actually type my commands out by hand still.  too lazy to make a proper script :-)
04:08 VanessaE brb, I need to restart.  keyboard driver is pissed off.
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04:10 VanessaE there.
04:11 VanessaE I like having a SSD for my boot/home drive :D
04:23 vicscandl ssd is so effing rad...
04:23 vicscandl well, finally getting slotable ssd "hard drives"
04:23 VanessaE you can have my SSD when you pry it from my cold, dead computer :-)
04:24 vicscandl VanessaE: you turn your computer off? wtf?
04:24 vicscandl i've got enough ups here so my shit will go like 2 weeks after i die
04:26 VanessaE of course.  I don't like to waste electricity :-)
04:27 VanessaE I think my UPS will keep both machines and associated hardware running for about 15 mins
04:27 VanessaE which is enough
04:28 vicscandl company servers installed at house. :(
04:28 VanessaE wow
04:29 vicscandl no place safer i say.. :)
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04:44 VanessaE zzz
04:54 cornernote hi VanessaE, can you help me make a graphic for my craft_guide ?
04:54 VanessaE oh, possibly :-)
04:54 cornernote doesnt have to be a sign either
04:54 VanessaE I take it the default sign isn't good enough? :-)
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04:55 cornernote im also going to update it to use the new formspec
04:55 cornernote with buttons
04:55 VanessaE do me a favor?
04:55 VanessaE port c55's 'creative mode inventory' over to survival mode?
04:56 cornernote survival mode ?
04:56 VanessaE having it or something just like it in survival mode would be really nice - list only the things the user has actually picked up, crafted, etc
04:56 VanessaE survival - you know, the "regular" mode when "creative" isn't selected
04:56 cornernote i havent used the new creative mode
04:56 cornernote loading now
04:57 cornernote oh, nice
04:57 VanessaE yeah, see how he did that?
04:57 cornernote yeah, i was looking at the code last night
04:57 VanessaE I'd love to see that left-hand menu replace the survival-mode inventory entirely.
04:57 VanessaE (save for the hotbar of course)
04:57 cornernote compiled latest
04:57 cornernote did everything
04:57 cornernote then forgot to look at it ingame lol
04:57 VanessaE haha
04:58 vicscandl having the creative mode menu available should be a granted priv (imho)
04:58 cornernote why do you want that in normal mode ?
04:58 cornernote ahh, i see
04:58 VanessaE cornernote: because the existing inventory is too small.
04:58 cornernote so an admin can do whatever they want, but users are limited
04:58 VanessaE 32 slots ain't enough sometimes :-)
04:59 vicscandl oh.... i totally misinterpreted your request V
04:59 VanessaE I've had to resort to storing stuff in my crafting grid also :-)
04:59 vicscandl ie: the normal inv works like the creative add on
04:59 cornernote why not use big chests ?
04:59 VanessaE right - but only showing items you've actually earned/crafted/mined
04:59 * vicscandl likes big chests.
04:59 cornernote oh, we can have paginated chests
05:00 cornernote vanessa, how about how WoW do it...
05:00 cornernote you have bag slots
05:00 vicscandl VanessaE: ok, so like if you have never gotten a nyancat, it would not be in the left
05:00 VanessaE vicscandl: because I might be down in a mine somewhere 2000m below sea level while such a chest is up above in my house or so
05:00 cornernote depending on the bags you have in your slots, you can store more things
05:00 VanessaE vicscandl: exactly.]'
05:00 vicscandl VanessaE: merit badges
05:00 vicscandl per se
05:00 VanessaE merit badges?  as in earned skills.  Interesting idea I guess
05:01 cornernote i think limited inventory is part of the fin of the game
05:01 cornernote fun too
05:01 vicscandl cornernote: agreed, as well
05:01 VanessaE mm.. maybe
05:01 VanessaE I dunno
05:01 cornernote like the bones mod =)
05:01 vicscandl cornernote: link?
05:01 khonkhortisan bones are the bane of my existence
05:01 VanessaE bones mod?  do not want. :-)
05:02 cornernote http://lmgtfy.com/?q=minetest+bones+mod
05:02 vicscandl was thinking a desc, should have been clear.. sorry
05:02 khonkhortisan ah, the good old lmgtfy
05:02 vicscandl i'll go search it in the forum
05:02 cornernote http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2206
05:03 vicscandl koo
05:04 cornernote if anyone uses vines, i did a fix so the rope_block removal doesnt kill the server
05:04 cornernote http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=34113
05:05 cornernote works really well, can clear out old ropes too just by putting the rope block on them then removing it
05:05 VanessaE I eventually uninstalled the old vines mod, got tired of having to chop down 40-50m tall vines :-)
05:05 VanessaE I haven't tried the recent one with the ropeblock
05:06 cornernote ropeblock is really cool
05:06 cornernote i found another one called ed:earth_driller
05:06 cornernote tweaked it a bit...
05:07 cornernote put it down and it makes a 50 deep hole, then after 4 deep it makes the hole a 3x3 wide instead of a 1x1 tunnel
05:07 cornernote great for making connecting tunnels, cos u know they all go to the same depth
05:08 cornernote https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-megapack/tree/master/mods/ed
05:08 cornernote dunno where it came from :S
05:08 cornernote sec, let me apply my change
05:09 VanessaE cornernote: oh yeah, I saw that one in a youtube video
05:10 cornernote ok, updated - https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-megapack/blob/master/mods/ed/init.lua
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05:25 GTRsdk Hi Jeija
05:25 VanessaE wb Jeija
05:25 khonkhortisan hello mesecons:
05:33 VanessaE cornernote: why for you no render block-shapes on the demo page for MTGW? :-)
05:33 VanessaE (and nodeboxes)
05:42 VanessaE also, your nyancat textures are coming from some leftover texture pack - they look like grey blocks of some kind.  Suggest deleting the entire texture cache and re-populating it from mine or whatever like before
05:43 khonkhortisan silly me I was running git reset --hard HEAD~1 then HEAD~2 then HEAD~3 so I was actually at ~1 then ~3 then ~6
05:45 vicscandl nice work jeija
05:45 khonkhortisan my textures are all weird now that I updated my source
05:47 khonkhortisan I get free stuff now even out of creative mode
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05:50 Nemo08 morning all!
05:51 VanessaE hey Nemo
05:53 khonkhortisan I have a Tester Tool 1
05:53 Nemo08 cool!
05:56 khonkhortisan my ~/.minetest/mods/minetest/* mods don't load anymore, anyone know where it moved to?
05:57 VanessaE are you using a run-in-place build?
05:57 khonkhortisan yes, and I updated it
05:57 VanessaE that's why
05:57 VanessaE look in celeron55-minetest-blahblah/mods/minetest
05:58 VanessaE mods go there when you use a run-in-place build.  system-wide installs use ~/.minetest/mods/minetest
05:58 khonkhortisan then an ln -s for me
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06:10 VanessaE cornernote: hm, forget my previous comment, I was looking at the older "fasthost" address (which btw shows more mods than the cornernote.net address)
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06:13 VanessaE hey jin
06:22 jin_xi morning vanessae
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06:46 VanessaE bbl, time to (try to )sleep.
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07:00 Anelisa hi !
07:01 Calinou hi
07:03 Anelisa (bon je parle en français comme ça ça seras plus simple pour la phrase) Je suis passée en 0.4.1 totue seule hier ! ^^'
07:03 Anelisa *toute
07:03 Calinou :D
07:03 Calinou dans la prochaine version, il y aura de la laine...
07:03 Calinou et des colorants
07:03 Calinou et un menu "mode créatif" amélioré
07:03 Anelisa youpii
07:03 Calinou http://c55.me/random/2012-07/tscrot-2012-07-25_18-29-37.png
07:04 Calinou les forums de minetest ont 2500 members!
07:04 Calinou :D
07:04 Anelisa ah mais dans ma version je l'ai ça ! ^^
07:04 Anelisa (la poudre et tout ^^')
07:05 Calinou ah cool
07:05 Calinou t'as une version de développement alors... pas la 0.4.1
07:05 Calinou (une version mise à jour tous les jours)
07:05 Calinou enfin, recompilée automatiquement
07:06 Anelisa aah... ben tant mieux xD
07:06 Anelisa j'ai fait la commande de l'autre fois : sudo apt-get install et sudo apt-get upgrade
07:07 Anelisa On pourras personaliser aussi son personnage ou pas ? *-*
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07:09 Calinou Anelisa, c'est sudo apt-get update pas install ^^
07:09 Calinou update = mettre à jour les listes de paquets
07:09 Anelisa ah oui ^^'
07:09 Calinou upgrade = faire une mise à jour des paquets
07:09 Calinou <Anelisa> On pourras personaliser aussi son personnage ou pas ? *-*
07:09 Calinou pas prévu avant un moment...
07:09 Calinou c'est secondaire
07:10 Anelisa aah mais c'est prévu ! *u*
07:12 Anelisa omg un de ces bugs dans un mod ! @_@
07:14 Anelisa la poudre sert à quoi pour le craft ?
07:39 Anelisa ...
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07:46 Calinou Anelisa, la poudre permet de faire de la laine colorée ^^
07:46 Calinou poudre + laine blanche dans le craft je crois
07:46 Anelisa aah ! ^^
07:48 Anelisa ça fait que me donner plus de laine.. ^^"
07:48 Anelisa ou ça change de couleur ma laine xD
07:50 Anelisa petite question avant que je brule ma forêt, comment j'éteind le feu ?? lol
07:50 Calinou clic gauche le feu ^^
07:50 Calinou ou avec des seaux d'eau
07:53 Anelisa aah ok ^^
07:59 * Anelisa reviens dans 20 minutes.. /! \
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08:00 * Anelisa not work in computer.. she's join 20 minuts (i have try to translate.. u_u)
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08:12 * Anelisa is here.
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08:18 Anelisa @_@
08:22 Anelisa Acced denied. Reason : Your client's version is not supported. Server version is 0.4.0. server's PROTOCOL_VERSION is 11. client's PROTOCOL_VERSION is 12.
08:23 Anelisa He's saied that's when i want connect with a server ! :/
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08:47 Anelisa ...
09:02 sfan5_ Anelisa: you have 0.4.1 the server has 0.4.0
09:03 Anelisa argh
09:03 sfan5 or any newer version than 0.4.1
09:03 Anelisa but in the page is said : 0.4.0/0.4.1 u_u
09:03 sfan5 ...
09:03 sfan5 i think you have the latest git then
09:04 sfan5 the latest git is not backward compatible with 0.4.0/0.4.1
09:06 Anelisa oh...
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09:09 Anelisa thanks
09:09 sfan5 no problem
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09:40 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/0190f9b077dcb2b8cb41c622dd91ffc1e04dacac
09:40 Calinou :D
09:42 Anelisa ??
09:43 Anelisa Pas compris/ I don't understand...
09:43 thexyz awesome
09:43 Anelisa A person can tell me why it's awesome or Calinou happy ?
09:44 Calinou also: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/0.4.x_changelog.txt
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09:44 Calinou Anelisa, ça permet de voir qui a griefé quelque chose... et d'annuler le grief
09:44 jordach|tablet sup ninjas
09:45 Calinou hi
09:45 Anelisa Calinou, mais avec quel commande, j'ai pas compris ! :s
09:45 Calinou /rollback (il faut le privilège "rollback")
09:45 Calinou cette commande est dispo uniquement sur la toute dernière version
09:46 * Calinou doit y aller
09:46 Anelisa .. ah okayy bye
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09:48 Anelisa hi
09:48 jordach|tablet VanessaE: now booting the monster
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09:54 Anelisa i have install the new version but she's doen't work !
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10:10 jordach AHA
10:10 jordach fianlly
10:10 jordach finally
10:11 jordach i can share music between xubuntu and my xbox now :D 7.1 sound here we come :)
10:11 thexyz that's so minetest-related
10:12 jordach it can bge chit-chat here
10:12 jordach s/bge/be
10:18 Anelisa u_u
10:27 cornernote new craft_guide -- coming soon -- http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2enaqf8&amp;s=6
10:36 Anelisa ^^
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11:22 Calinou adding wool/dye support to MCE... :)
11:22 mauvebic which dyes? jordachs or vanessas?
11:26 darkrose probably the official ones
11:26 mauvebic there are no official dyes yet lol
11:27 mauvebic just got 5-6 dye packs
11:27 darkrose https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/tree/master/mods/dye oh look, official dyes
11:29 mauvebic thats in 0.4.1?
11:30 mauvebic and which pack did they finally go with?
11:34 Calinou the official one
11:34 Calinou of course :)
11:34 Calinou jordach's wool mod is also supported, for backwards compat
11:34 Calinou (in misa's pack, it uses more "uniform" textures, which is probably more suitable for pixel art)
11:35 Calinou the textures for the official wool in misa pack are more suitable for carpets/etc
11:35 Anelisa re
11:36 mauvebic what i meant was: who wrote the official one?
11:37 darkrose celeron did, it's a bit of a meld of the others
11:37 mauvebic ha, so why do the others bother to maintain seperate dye packs? lol
11:38 darkrose I think VanessaE's is just going to be an extension to the standard dye mod, for more colours
11:40 Anelisa ..
11:41 Anelisa darkrose, super !!!
11:41 mauvebic maybe the next versions will simply have real RGB color wheels in the crafting windows
11:43 * Calinou is trying minecraft 1.3 pre-release...
11:43 Calinou it has horizontal trees, but I just beat mojang 8 months ago about that
11:44 Anelisa translation for me ?_? x)
11:46 jordach Calinou, sfan5 must be a Mojang spy!!
11:46 Calinou why?
11:47 jordach how would they know about horzontal trees
11:52 Anelisa plop
11:55 * Anelisa part
11:57 sfan5 jordach: what?
11:57 jordach its a TF2 reference
12:01 Calinou the sfan is a spy
12:03 sfan5 the calinou is a lie
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13:04 cornernote [craft_guide] - updated - http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2334
13:04 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/30zcn.png
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13:05 cornernote google maps for minetest ?
13:05 thexyz googlemap-like mapper
13:06 thexyz written by Nemo08
13:07 cornernote is it available to share ?
13:07 thexyz ?
13:08 cornernote the code
13:08 thexyz yes, but it is not-release-version
13:08 thexyz https://github.com/Nemo08/hxmtmapper
13:11 thexyz and it is slooooooow
13:13 Calinou thexyz, are you in private nav?
13:14 Calinou why is it some robot and not a spy-ish guy?
13:14 Calinou at the top left
13:18 thexyz that's user icon
13:20 Calinou oh, ok
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13:22 Fixer redcrab@30401 is down?
13:23 jordach PROBABLY
13:23 Fixer it works
13:26 Calinou NOT REALLY SURE, BUT I LIKE WRITING IN ALLCAPS.
13:28 Fixer don't
13:28 jordach Calinou, i wan organizing my media library
13:29 Calinou k :P
13:30 jordach like CD1, CD2, because disc names screw gmusicbrowser in the ass at times
13:36 * jordach hates java on linux
13:36 jordach Y U HAVE TO GO THROUGH /media (THEN MOUNT) THEN SELECT FILES, Y CANT U HAVE A DRIVE LINK AT THE TOP, IS IT THAT HARD?
13:39 Calinou red eclipse runs at 95-400FPS, 1920x1080 no AA 16x AF, without shaders
13:39 Calinou free drivers
13:39 Calinou :3
13:40 Fixer last cave was at -110, now i'm at -240 and no cave...
13:42 Fixer pfff
13:42 Fixer -270
13:42 Fixer come on
13:56 Fixer any advice about finding a cave?
13:59 jordach Fixer, dig down
13:59 jordach litterally
13:59 Fixer no
14:01 thexyz use fly mode
14:02 Fixer cheat
14:02 Fixer i will resume later
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14:30 Calinou hi NakedFury
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14:50 Calinou https://twitter.com/jeb_/status/228829830731427840
14:50 Calinou we need this for minetest D:
14:53 NakedFury a block that can be programmed in game to run commands and do things
14:53 NakedFury I like it
14:54 thexyz that can be done in minetest
14:55 thexyz but i don't see there clear explanation of what this thing does
14:55 NakedFury for adventure modes
14:55 NakedFury you reach a goal or some special place, you are healed up or given xp or given items
14:56 NakedFury like in other games
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15:25 thefamilygrog66 Hey all, I'd like to compile a version minetest-0.4.dev-20120606-c57e508 for gnu/linux - any ideas where I can download the tarball for that (the newest version doesn't play well with the servers I use)
15:30 Calinou github tags are you friend
15:30 thefamilygrog66 I think I've found it...
15:30 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/zipball/0.4.dev-20120606
15:30 thexyz http://github.com/celeron55/minetest
15:30 Calinou ^
15:30 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/tarball/0.4.dev-20120606
15:30 Calinou ^ tarball
15:30 thefamilygrog66 thanks calinou
15:30 Calinou erm, not sure if there's a tarball
15:30 jordach Calinou: finally out of his waters
15:31 Calinou there should be
15:31 Calinou jordach, what
15:31 thefamilygrog66 seems to be, yes
15:31 thefamilygrog66 thanks again
15:44 VanessaE good morning all.
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15:51 jordach o hai VanessaE
15:51 VanessaE hey
15:51 * jordach aint gonna update
15:51 jordach and im coding C++ like hell
15:56 * jordach has added wool to minetest classic
16:03 VanessaE cool
16:03 jordach VanessaE, there are only 4 errors so far
16:03 jordach its either my misspellings (correct) or the DAMN LUA COMMA
16:04 thexyz Calinou: you know, quotes should look differently
16:15 Calinou what quotes?
16:15 thexyz in minetest wiki
16:16 Calinou ik... better than nothing
16:17 Calinou \o/ 703ms ping
16:17 jordach \o/ a kick
16:18 * jordach loves unicode ╭∩╮(︶︿︶)╭∩╮
16:18 Calinou dicks and a face
16:19 jordach middle fingers actually
16:19 OWNS last time i checked we didint have 3 fingers
16:19 jordach <VanessaE> look, no matter what I suggest, no matter HOW detailed I get (not in this case obviously), there is always SOMETHING you don't like about my suggestions.  So why bother?
16:19 jordach <celeron55> that line was completely rubbish
16:19 jordach oh you.
16:21 VanessaE *sigh*
16:21 VanessaE he's starting to piss me off now.
16:21 jordach yep
16:21 jordach thats why im SILENT
16:21 jordach i watch, see click link, compile
16:22 jordach comment, if nessescary
16:22 OWNSyouAll make -j 999 cause fuck it
16:22 jordach OWNSyouAll, make -j
16:22 jin_xi as a matter of fact im making a j, yes ;)
16:23 jordach here 999 j's
16:23 jordach jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
16:23 jordach jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
16:23 jordach jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
16:23 jordach jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
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16:23 jordach jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
16:23 OWNSyouAll inb4 jordach gets kicked
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16:27 VanessaE THERE/
16:27 VanessaE read that, jordach.
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16:27 VanessaE damn it
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16:45 Calinou tweaking grass/grass side/leaves color is P A I N F U L.
16:45 Calinou ._.
16:45 Calinou <OWNSyouAll> make -j 999 cause fuck it
16:45 Calinou make -j :p
17:06 * Calinou added support for junglegrass mod in misa pack
17:06 Calinou almost finished grass/leaves color tweaking
17:07 Calinou I don't want to do that again. ._.
17:10 VanessaE yay \o/ :-)
17:14 Calinou misa pack update get!
17:14 Calinou embrace yourselves - prepare for "THE NEW COLORS ARE FUGLY" posts
17:14 VanessaE linky?
17:14 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=274
17:14 Calinou still uploading the packs :P
17:15 VanessaE Merci.
17:16 * Calinou should add support for xpanes
17:16 * Calinou is tired
17:16 VanessaE don't forget cotton and unifieddyes ;-)
17:17 VanessaE by the way,
17:17 VanessaE what *exactly* is the status of the sponge and obsidian mods?
17:18 VanessaE (the last two in the list, which my tex packs also 'support')
17:23 Calinou these are pretty much dead; but the textures are still available
17:23 Calinou VanessaE> don't forget cotton and unifieddyes ;-)
17:23 VanessaE that's what I thought.
17:23 Calinou how many textures? :p
17:23 VanessaE Calinou: use gentextures.sh
17:24 Calinou yeah, I'll try later ;) going to dinner for now, bye
17:24 VanessaE 10 seconds from 2 textures to hundreds. :-)
17:24 VanessaE ok, ciao.
17:24 VanessaE (or should I say, chow?)
17:24 Calinou ciao not chow
17:24 VanessaE chow -> dinner :-)
17:24 * Calinou is now using his minetest wallpaper
17:24 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2432 < :)
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19:06 rsiska hi. is the redcrab:30401 down? I haven't been able to connect for 5 days now, but forum looks, like nobody has problem. I'm confused
19:06 VanessaE rsiska: works for me.
19:06 * VanessaE looks around her house
19:07 rsiska could you please tell me, what version/build you have?
19:07 rsiska resp. did you update in the recent time?
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19:08 VanessaE 0.4.1 linux AMD64 (built myself)
19:09 VanessaE the very latest git and daily builds don't work with most servers because the servers are out of date
19:09 VanessaE and latest git is not considered "stable"
19:11 rsiska I'll build 0.4 branch from git...
19:11 VanessaE don't
19:11 VanessaE get a 0.4.0 or 0.4.1 stable build
19:13 rsiska ok. thanks
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19:24 rsiska didn't work... I'll have to investigate a bit more, I guess...
19:35 rsiska oh, nice! I set up verbose and noticed, that the game resolves redcrab.sure.net on different IP! (66.114.124.140)
19:35 rsiska With real IP it works, of course. I have no idea, why does it resolve badly :D
19:37 rsiska ah, it's because I'm idiot. problem saved. sorry for spamming this board :D
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20:11 VanessaE hey cn
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21:02 sfan5 lol http://imgur.com/gallery/pzKJb
21:06 VanessaE heh
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21:47 jin_xi vanessa, can you please move http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2367 to old mods? thanks
21:47 VanessaE moved. :-)
21:48 jin_xi thanks. done a complete rewrite and will make new topic soon.
21:48 VanessaE ah, ok
21:55 VanessaE you know, there is a separate "pigments" item in the craft chain in unifieddyes now.  Maybe you could use those to directly mix "paint" for your paintings mod
21:56 VanessaE make them into something that would require fewer resources overall to create a painting
21:58 VanessaE (like one blob of red pigment + some other ingredient = 5 pixels or something)
22:00 VanessaE is it possible to read a user'
22:01 VanessaE is it possible to read a user's inventory and see if they have a particular item on hand?
22:02 VanessaE jin_xi: ^^
22:02 VanessaE I'm thinking mix a few of the pigment powders together to make the 17 base colors, and use those directly like watercolors, as long as the user has a bucket of water in their inventory.
22:11 khonkhortisan what about when buckets are banned?
22:12 VanessaE dunno then..  have the admin give you a block of water? :-)
22:13 VanessaE with the rollback mod c55 just added, banning buckets is kinda pointless.
22:20 khonkhortisan how do I restart make? make clean doesn't work
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22:21 VanessaE good question; make distclean?
22:22 jin_xi vanessa: get_wielded_item():get_name()
22:23 VanessaE nono, not wielding it - just having it in your inventory somewhere.
22:23 VanessaE (because obviously you'll need to wield a paintbrush :-) )
22:25 bas080 If I would want to make a tool that performs certain action when i hit a node. where you should this code be placed? is minetest.register_on_punchnode(...) good enough?? If so, how do i get the tool i am wielding? Or is there a special on hit function for tools which is defined in the tools registration?
22:25 khonkhortisan is it based on the node you punch or the tool doing the punching?
22:26 FreeFull Maybe both
22:28 bas080 Both. trying to make a farming mod... So basicly making the hoe function.
22:28 bas080 Shoul;d only work on dirt and dirt with grass blocks
22:29 khonkhortisan so you turn it into farming:dirt_hoed?
22:30 khonkhortisan haha my client turned that into a smiley face
22:30 bas080 lol. that's the idea.
22:30 bas080 and there should be tool wear and tear
22:30 jin_xi do it in your nodes on_punch
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22:31 khonkhortisan to put it in the node you'd have to redefine dirt
22:31 jin_xi oh
22:32 khonkhortisan it can be done, you'd just have to make sure you didn't lose any variables/functions the dirt already has
22:36 bas080 copy paste the dirt node... Not my most favorite thing to do. But it would be the most efficient for the game i guess... but what function reduces the tool hp?
22:37 khonkhortisan uses=10
22:38 khonkhortisan doc/lua_api,txt line 505
22:38 khonkhortisan ,->.
22:47 khonkhortisan dirt = minetest.env:registered_items['default:dirt']   minetest.register_node(':default:dirt', { description = dirt.description, groups = dirt.groups, sounds = dirt.sounds...
22:54 bas080 But ok. then i have the on_dig event in the dirt node but i can still not check if dug with hoe.. how can i do that?
23:30 VanessaE zzz
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23:34 jordan4ibanez this freakin train mod is AWESOME!
23:34 jordan4ibanez someone add onto it and give it a train "skin" or whatever it's called
23:35 jordan4ibanez http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2451
23:44 jin_xi thinking about painting ui
23:45 jin_xi i'd like to give access to colors like hotbar
23:45 jin_xi ideas anyone?
23:47 VanessaE not sure
23:47 VanessaE is it possible to create a color wheel?
23:48 jin_xi from textures?
23:48 VanessaE well I was thinking more like inventory spots, but only a circle of them, one each with a color swatch
23:49 VanessaE hm, seeing a pretty clear performance issue with 0.4.1 (wonder if it's since been fixed?)
23:49 jin_xi my thoughts so far: craft palette from 8 dyes. wield palette -> colors hotbar
23:49 jin_xi but where you put the brush :)
23:50 VanessaE um.....
23:50 VanessaE detect the presence of the palette in the inventory - if it exists, give the user a brush?
23:53 jin_xi hmm, you craft palette and get brush? idk
23:53 VanessaE you get both, but can only wield the brush maybe?
23:53 VanessaE no, that won't work
23:53 jin_xi also i wonder if i should store palette with pic and use indexed colors
23:54 jin_xi or if i should allow all colors on all pics
23:54 VanessaE definitely all colors.
23:55 VanessaE then again there are "only" 89 colors, so it's not like indexing would lose anything
23:55 jin_xi i dislike naming my one pixel textures 1.png and so on, but it would really shorten the image string. i wonder if thats an issue
23:55 VanessaE can you alias them somehow?
23:56 VanessaE or ...
23:56 VanessaE hmm
23:57 jin_xi brush would be nice to have as in a tool which never digs the canvas
23:57 VanessaE right
23:57 jin_xi need left hand
23:57 VanessaE exactly my thought
23:57 VanessaE ?
23:58 jin_xi on a side node, i started reading pil book. i think its really good.
23:58 jin_xi very concise
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