Time Nick Message 02:02 wowiamdiamonds VanessaE: gentextures.sh generates mediumgrey textures even though unifieddyes uses grey, not mediumgrey 02:39 GTRsdk This is an awesome game! 02:40 VanessaE OOPS! 02:40 VanessaE I'll fix it 02:40 cy1 GTRsdk: ain't it though! 02:41 VanessaE fix committed. 02:41 GTRsdk just out of curiosity... has anyone been able to have the mobs occur in the current 0.4? 02:42 VanessaE 0.4 doesn'thave mobs 02:42 VanessaE except for what the Animals Mod provides 02:42 VanessaE (which is not part of the game) 02:42 cy1 I've gotten animals mod to work... poorly 02:43 GTRsdk oh okay 02:43 GTRsdk are there plans to have mobs in 0.4 final? 02:43 VanessaE yes 02:58 VanessaE bored bored bored, etc. 03:02 VanessaE wowiamdiamonds: see above. :-) 03:02 wowiamdiamonds oh cool, thanks for fixing that ^.^ 03:03 VanessaE no prob :-) 03:07 VanessaE I'd have fixed it sooner but I didn't see your comment immediately :p-) 03:07 VanessaE :-) 03:08 VanessaE any other bugs? 03:30 khonkhortisan where are the textures? 03:31 VanessaE what textures? 03:31 khonkhortisan stone, sand 03:31 VanessaE ohh 03:31 VanessaE depends on your system 03:32 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~$ find /usr/local/share/minetest/ |grep sand 03:32 VanessaE /usr/local/share/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/default/textures/default_sand.png 03:32 VanessaE (among others) 03:32 khonkhortisan ah. I stopped looking at mods/ 03:38 VanessaE and then on my particular system, I have several texture packs stored in ~/Minetest-Textures-and-mods/texture-packs/ 03:38 VanessaE (I modify my monetest.conf to point to whichever one I'm using at the moment, usually the 512px one) 03:38 VanessaE monetest.conf -> minetest.conf 03:47 wowiamdiamonds in moreblocks there is a block called "empty bookshelf" which is made by using a sweeper on a default bookshelf. 03:47 wowiamdiamonds is it possible to keep the sweeper? normally, it is consumed, which makes little-to-no sense 03:48 VanessaE it is possible, Calinou just didn't code it that way is all 03:48 wowiamdiamonds how is it possible :P 03:48 VanessaE using the "replacements =" parameter in the craft recipe 03:48 VanessaE you but I think I'd be inclined to have it return not the sweeper but the three books you need to make the bookshelf 03:49 VanessaE (since a sweeper is crafted from a stick and jungle grass, i.e. easy-to-find materials) 03:49 VanessaE -you 03:49 wowiamdiamonds yeah, lua_api says only pairs of items can be used 03:49 wowiamdiamonds how is that notated? replacements = {"sweeper", "sweeper"}? 03:52 VanessaE yes I think so 03:53 VanessaE item in craft, item to replace it with 03:53 khonkhortisan layer masks are cool 03:53 VanessaE khonkhortisan: what are you doing? 03:53 khonkhortisan making transition textures between sand and desert_sand 03:53 VanessaE ah 04:01 khonkhortisan for x,y = pos.x-1, pos.x+1, pos.y-1, pos.y+1 do 04:01 khonkhortisan if only 04:02 VanessaE heh 04:02 VanessaE have fun :-) 04:13 VanessaE wowiamdiamonds: may I make a recommendation before your unifiedbricks goes stable? 04:13 wowiamdiamonds always 04:14 VanessaE use file/node/craft names of the form unifiedbricks_clay_*, unifiedbricks_clayblock_*, etc. 04:14 VanessaE that is, put the material name before the color. 04:14 wowiamdiamonds is it a convention? 04:15 VanessaE it's easier to sort and easier for me to make textures for the photorealistic packs ;-) 04:15 wowiamdiamonds :P ok 04:15 wowiamdiamonds ooh i see 04:15 VanessaE I don't know that it's a convention, however it does follow the least-to-most specific rule 04:16 VanessaE (rule as in the idea, not some forum/minetest guideline :-) ) 04:18 wowiamdiamonds i can't find some combination that works for replacements, and it seems to be supported in the code, any ideas on how to get it to work? 04:19 VanessaE lemme check 04:19 VanessaE minetest.register_craft( { 04:19 VanessaE type = 'shapeless', 04:19 VanessaE output = 'homedecor:ceiling_paint 10', 04:19 VanessaE recipe = { 04:19 VanessaE 'unifieddyes:white_paint', 04:19 VanessaE 'default:stone', 04:19 VanessaE }, 04:19 VanessaE replacements = { {'unifieddyes:white_paint', 'bucket:bucket_empty'}, }, 04:19 VanessaE }) 04:19 VanessaE from my homedecor mod 04:20 VanessaE when you craft stone + white paint, you get white ceiling tiles in the crafting output, and you get an empty bucket back in the crafting grid. 04:22 * VanessaE stands by with photorealistic textures using the above-suggested naming convention.... :-) 04:23 wowiamdiamonds lol i'm so slow i'll commit it in <30s 04:23 VanessaE haha 04:24 wowiamdiamonds oooooooooooh that's how you use replacements, thank you 04:24 VanessaE so unifiedbricks_clayblock_dark_red_s50.png etc 04:24 VanessaE you're welcome :-) 04:24 wowiamdiamonds it should use those textures, i'll test it 04:25 wowiamdiamonds oh i suck 04:25 VanessaE ? 04:25 wowiamdiamonds i messed up my init.lua lol 04:25 VanessaE come to think of it, your texture filenames are right :-) 04:26 VanessaE I guess it's your node/item names that are wrong then :-)_ 04:27 wowiamdiamonds that should be good 04:27 VanessaE interesting variation on my template :-) 04:28 VanessaE register_clay_craft_three_reducedfat() 04:28 VanessaE hahaha 04:28 VanessaE "unifiedbricks:" .. color_four .. "_clay", 04:28 VanessaE um.. 04:29 VanessaE unless you intend to keep the nodenames as they already are :-) 04:29 khonkhortisan some of my one custom nodes with a custom texture are gray on the top when I'm not digging them. Know why? 04:29 wowiamdiamonds lol i didn't fix that 04:29 VanessaE no clue 04:30 wowiamdiamonds yeah i'll keep node names the same 04:30 VanessaE ok 04:30 VanessaE but it might confuse some folks 04:30 wowiamdiamonds muahahaha 04:30 VanessaE heh 04:31 khonkhortisan you can tell a website doesn't run linux when it makes you change your file extention to upload http://f.imgtmp.com/ILio9.png 04:32 VanessaE I notice your "light" textures for the clay blocks are kinda faded compared to standard... did you change them after the fact? 04:32 VanessaE (but the brick blocks look fine) 04:32 VanessaE (just in case it's due to a bug in my code) 04:32 wowiamdiamonds no, it's because my original red clay texture is bad 04:33 VanessaE ohh 04:39 VanessaE how shall I credit you for unifiedbricks? 04:39 VanessaE just wowiamdiamonds ? 04:39 wowiamdiamonds sure 04:39 VanessaE ok 04:43 VanessaE textures committed. 04:43 VanessaE can you download one of the photorealistic packs and give it a spin>? 04:43 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/64px-realistic-textures/zipball/master 04:43 VanessaE maybe this one will suit 04:44 VanessaE (I have too many mods/items so I can't test it until c55 fixes that bug) 04:45 wowiamdiamonds how do i install texture packs? 04:46 wowiamdiamonds drop them into \textures\all? 04:46 VanessaE um 04:46 VanessaE that should work 04:46 VanessaE I modified my minetest.conf file to point to mine 04:47 VanessaE (since I store them outside of minetest's usual trees) 04:47 wowiamdiamonds oh ok 04:50 wowiamdiamonds i like your textures much better than mine 04:50 VanessaE heh 04:50 VanessaE I take it they work okay :-) 05:01 VanessaE wowiamdiamonds: let's see a screenshot with my textures :-) 05:12 * VanessaE waits 05:13 VanessaE wowiamdiamonds: I need to file a bug report on xchat. Your nick will be in the example image describing the problem. Is that okay with you? 05:15 VanessaE (it's an issue with longer nicks overwriting the time/date stamp to the left) 05:16 wowiamdiamonds this is my house :P http://i.imgur.com/D8AYR.png 05:17 wowiamdiamonds yes it's fine :P 05:17 VanessaE ok 05:17 VanessaE nice screen :-) 05:18 wowiamdiamonds do you want me to make a texture screenshot like in the forum post? 05:18 VanessaE only if it won't inconvenience you 05:18 wowiamdiamonds ok, one second 05:22 VanessaE christ in a cartoon.. 05:22 VanessaE 1193 images (in the larger sizes), and counting! 05:22 VanessaE I just realized I cracked 1000 with this unifiedbricks update :-) 05:23 wowiamdiamonds I am getting ERROR[main]: TextureSource::buildMainAtlas(): Atlas is fulll, not adding more textures. 05:23 wowiamdiamonds but it isn't doing anything 05:23 wowiamdiamonds as in, no bad sideeffects 05:23 VanessaE right, that's a normal message for anything > 16px textures 05:24 wowiamdiamonds ah, i see 05:24 VanessaE I disabled it on my system. with 512px textures, it isn't even used anyway 05:26 wowiamdiamonds http://i.imgur.com/qvvD6.png 05:27 VanessaE yup, that's the texture atlas being weird. 05:27 wowiamdiamonds so i should disable it? 05:27 VanessaE enable_texture_atlas = false 05:27 VanessaE in your minetest.conf 05:27 wowiamdiamonds danke 05:45 * VanessaE waits impatiently ;-) 05:45 wowiamdiamonds oh shoot you wanted the brick thing 05:45 VanessaE hahaha 05:51 wowiamdiamonds http://i.imgur.com/0U8YA.png 05:51 VanessaE niiiiiice 05:52 * VanessaE <-- genius. :D 05:52 wowiamdiamonds :P 05:52 VanessaE hey, that's not to downplay you - the bricks was a great idea :-) 05:55 khonkhortisan Does anyone else have a spot or a line of dark lighting going along the plains? 05:55 VanessaE everyone gets that 05:55 khonkhortisan what is it? 05:55 VanessaE it's because the game spawns blocks way up high, like Y=+7000 or so 05:55 VanessaE they're literally shadows of stuff that's too high up to see 05:56 VanessaE I think thexyz was the one who spotted it 05:57 Bad_Command I see crap at +450 on gameboom 05:57 Bad_Command trees and clumps of sod 05:57 VanessaE yup 05:57 VanessaE so, when are you gonna update the server so latest git can connect? ;-) 05:57 khonkhortisan how much can /giveme stack? 05:57 VanessaE khonkhortisan: unlimited I think 05:57 Bad_Command As soon as I can convince ghostshell to update 05:57 VanessaE I routinely do 9999 05:57 khonkhortisan cool 05:58 VanessaE Bad_Command: oh ok 05:58 Bad_Command I'm sure hell will freeze over eventually, eh 05:58 khonkhortisan I thought it was going to split the amount 05:58 VanessaE heh 05:58 khonkhortisan you need water+lava 05:58 khonkhortisan I also see trees sawn in half still standing 05:59 VanessaE I've seen that too 05:59 khonkhortisan it makes me think I'm not alone 05:59 Bad_Command Gravity plays by different rules in minetest 05:59 VanessaE maybe it's herobrine ;-) 05:59 khonkhortisan I happen to know who that is, thanks to youtube 06:00 VanessaE Bad_Command: did you see the unifieddyes and unifiedbricks updates above? :-) 06:00 Bad_Command Yeah, I saw the screenshot, looks nice 06:08 VanessaE hey workflow 06:13 workflow morning vanessa 06:19 VanessaE so, with unifieddyes in place and working, and unifiedbricks seems to be good, how do unifiedwood and unifiedfences sound? :-) 06:20 VanessaE (I'd do them myself of course) 06:20 wowiamdiamonds that would be brilliant 06:20 VanessaE (they'll be based on dyeing existing wood/fence objects) 06:22 khonkhortisan "/giveme sand 99" works but "/giveme desert_sand 99" doesn't. I guess it doesn't have that alias. 06:22 workflow maybe its default:desert_sand 06:23 khonkhortisan yes sand turns into default:sand and desert_sand could have turned into default:desert_sand 06:31 VanessaE ok, time for me to hit the hay 06:31 VanessaE night all 06:40 khonkhortisan it's all your fault hay! 06:40 khonkhortisan *punch* 07:30 bas080 Hey Guys, i'm sad. Why was my mod niot released? 07:33 bas080 Ok. i see licence stuff. 07:33 bas080 What was the non profit one? 07:33 bas080 Free to use but not for moneyz 07:33 bas080 and edit. 07:35 cy1 bas080: by-nc-sa? 07:35 bas080 That ois for by-nc-sa right? 07:35 bas080 of also for code? 07:36 jordach|tablet Morning all 07:36 bas080 hey jordach 07:36 cy1 GPLv3 works too 07:36 bas080 That one is for images* 07:36 bas080 the by-nc-sa. 07:36 cy1 no it's for anything 07:36 cy1 by = by attribution. nc = noncommercial. sa = share-alike. 07:37 bas080 And do i give my rights to profit from it? Or is the licence giver always in power? 07:37 cy1 by-nc-sa basically saying people have to give you credit, not use it for the moneyz, and not copy it then use that for the moneyz, but otherwise can use it freely. 07:38 cy1 can just do by- too or by-nc but loopholes etc 07:38 jordach|tablet or wtfpl = you dont care 07:38 cy1 none of it really matters anyway 07:39 bas080 I do care. the wtfpl does mean that others can use it for profit. 07:39 cy1 it's just whoever has the most money and lawyers that gets to say who can use :( 07:39 bas080 I want it in the public domain. 07:40 cy1 wtfpl is better than public domain, unless you're commonwealth scum 07:40 cy1 but uh 07:40 jordach|tablet lgpl is your best bet 07:40 cy1 lgpl has a huge loophole 07:40 bas080 how? 07:40 cy1 if I take your lgpl code, change one letter in it, then erase your name, license, etc and sell it as my own stuff, lgpl allows that. 07:41 cy1 it doesn't force "derived" work to have the same license 07:41 jordach|tablet tHats a design 07:42 cy1 basically everything we do in minetest that's cool, will be copied to minecraft, but we can't copy anything from them b/c they're copyright do not steal. 07:42 bas080 And yes i believe common wealth is valueable. Becouse in the Netherlands we have institutions which benefit us all 07:43 bas080 Yes. but if they steal they won't claim. 07:43 bas080 have there been claiming issues in the past? 07:44 cy1 which is why this fake pic made me rage 07:44 cy1 http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/6619/minecraftmeseconsedited.png 07:45 cy1 common wealth is not commonwealth I'm p. sure. it's like, more insular or something. 07:45 cy1 licensing doesn't matter though 07:45 cy1 because closed source is legal :| 07:46 jordach|tablet cy1 sfan5 had a post on how to close the source 07:46 cy1 someone makes closed source derptest and says it's like minetest but better, then sells it. what are we going to do, psychically prophecy that they're using our source? 07:47 cy1 thus, as long as closed source code without oversight is legal, open source licensing is impotent. 07:47 cy1 microsoft has been copying bsd since the beginning w/out credit attribution or royalties. 07:48 darkrose if I take your lgpl code, change one letter in it, then erase your name, license, etc and sell it as my own stuff, lgpl allows that 07:48 darkrose no it doesn't 07:49 cy1 darkrose: well, it hasn't been tested in court, but how does releasing a modified version under a commercial license (explicitly allowed in the LGPL) distinguish from that? 07:50 cy1 bas080: http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/ claims that it's because what the "commonwealth" is varies based on jurisdiction. Usually it means "everyone who isn't a filthy foreigner" 07:52 jordach|tablet cy1 minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=29978#p29978 07:53 bas080 When are you a foreigner? Isn't that context dependent? 07:54 cy1 bas080: yes, thus the reason to use the wtfpl and not "public domain" 07:54 bas080 And why are they filthy? Everyone is filthy in that case 07:54 bas080 Yes] 07:54 bas080 makes sence. 07:56 jordach|tablet bas, not really. if you want, i can write a license to what your needs are 07:56 cy1 the best way to convince a population to bind themselves into willing tyranny is to tell them that they are so much better than those others across the border. 07:56 jordach|tablet ikr 07:57 cy1 srry my immigration policy is controversial 07:57 cy1 but that's one reason the term "commonwealth" is something I'm reluctant to rely on 07:57 bas080 hitler style controversial? 07:58 bas080 It makes sence for healt, security and taxing. 07:58 jordach|tablet health bas not healt 07:59 bas080 thank you 08:00 jordach|tablet :D 08:00 jordach|tablet makin breakfast right not 08:00 jordach|tablet now* 08:00 * jordach|tablet offers toast 08:03 bas080 I fixed the licence and dependencies in my vines mod post. 08:04 jordach|tablet well done 08:05 bas080 VanessaE: Ty for the feedback I look forward to having it on the releases page. 08:06 darkrose darkrose: well, it hasn't been tested in court, but how does releasing a modified version under a commercial license (explicitly allowed in the LGPL) distinguish from that? 08:06 darkrose it doesn't 08:07 darkrose it requires access to the complete corresponding machine-readable source code under the same license 08:08 cy1 darkrose: not for derived works, only for using the library literally unmodified. 08:09 darkrose read the lgpl, derived works require what I just said 08:10 cy1 so uh... how is it different from the gpl then 08:11 darkrose it allow linking with (via a dynamic linking mechanism), and distribution along side of, proprietary code 08:15 cy1 where does the gpl prevent that? 08:18 darkrose section 2b 08:18 darkrose You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License. 08:20 cy1 2...b? 08:21 cy1 oh you're using the old gpl 08:22 cy1 it's not that gpl code can't use proprietary code, it's that proprietary code can't use gpl... 08:22 cy1 anyway I meant this one: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html 08:24 darkrose I was going by v2* for both, as that's what minetest is/was licensed under 08:26 cy1 oh, my bad 08:27 Calinou ah, your good 08:27 Calinou hi 08:28 cy1 ok so with lgpl a company can use your stuff while still giving you credit, and just their stuff that depends on it can be closed source. 08:29 cy1 but then they'll just close all the source and pretend that they didn't use your stuff. 08:29 cy1 but, taht's true for the gpl too. 08:31 Calinou paid GPL = trololol 08:31 Calinou see xchat, free ports are LEGAL 08:31 Calinou you just can't make money with GPL license 08:34 cy1 Calinou: well you can't use GPL code if you want to release under public domain, even if you make no money. 08:34 Calinou ik 08:35 cy1 however you can write XX license code and a GPL code that uses it (and GPL code), to have the same effect. Can even make money that way I would think... 08:35 darkrose you just can't make money with GPL license >> which is why Linus is broke, and RedHat never makes a profit 08:35 cy1 not that it's right to make money by selling licenses. 08:35 Calinou open source + money do not compute, never 08:36 Calinou I never seen something opensource that was paid 08:36 Calinou because the price is so easily circumventable 08:36 cy1 darkrose: linus may be broke, but he has a hell of a lot of friends! 08:36 darkrose /sarcasm 08:36 cy1 no, seriously 08:36 Calinou * sarcasm :Unknown command 08:36 cy1 friends who can help you out are way better than money 08:37 darkrose indeed 08:37 cy1 Calinou: i2p is open source w/ money. they do bounties. 08:37 Calinou but you need money to survive. :P 08:37 Calinou you can't eat and live in your friends, sorry 08:37 Calinou cy1, i2p? 08:37 cy1 Calinou: you obviously don't have very good friends if they will starve you and throw you out into the cold... 08:37 Calinou are they actually making money? free ports as usual? 08:38 cy1 yeah i2p is just a program I played with before. it's got a whole setup for code bounties, no closed source required. 08:38 Calinou gonna hate people in support forums in general, putting extremely irrelevant info :c 08:39 neena ls 08:39 cy1 that's another thing that can make money is tech support. 08:39 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2357 08:39 Calinou LOL 08:39 cy1 if you want money 08:39 Calinou last post 08:39 cy1 why you would I dunno 08:39 Calinou neena, ls: no such file or directory 08:39 Calinou that's another thing that can make money is tech support. 08:39 cy1 money's good for taxes, and not much else 08:39 Calinou there's things called IRC and forums, which are free forms of support 08:39 Calinou noone cares about paid support 08:39 neena Calinou: :) Sorry, ignore that. 08:40 cy1 Calinou: well yeah, having friends who can support you for free is way better than using money to try to get it. 08:41 cy1 but lots of people don't have friends like that, or just believe in money... 08:41 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=31737#p31737 08:41 Calinou cy1, friends who support you for free are probably... very rare :P 08:41 bas080 Fishhead 08:42 Calinou YAY, the dude who made ugly blocks and slow season mod no longer makes mods! 08:42 Calinou his "go" mod was cool though, and protection mods to 08:53 cy1 Calinou: Not if you support them for free... 08:53 cy1 slow season mod? you mean mauvebic? 08:54 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=31803#p31803 08:54 Calinou -_- 08:54 Calinou cy1, yeah 08:55 cy1 I realize getting everynoe to help each other is a daunting task, but I don't pity Linus for not having $$$ 08:58 bas080 everyone eachother. all for one and one for all. you communist :P 08:59 cy1 no I'm a musketeer 09:00 cy1 Calinou: so uh... tonyka is joking, right 09:00 bas080 I believe in a bit more chaos. It's not possible to have everyone do the "right" thing. It think creativity is the result of mistakes. 09:01 Calinou MT forum needs a way to warn people 09:02 cy1 warn ppl about what? 09:02 bas080 spelling 09:03 cy1 bas080: that's why you want to help people for free, because when you do make mistakes and think creatively, they'll be able to support 09:03 cy1 and vice versa 09:03 cy1 "for free" just means w/out money though 09:03 cy1 obviously it's not free as in free bear 09:03 cy1 beer 09:04 Calinou no 09:04 Calinou about trolling/flaming/etc 09:04 Calinou cy1, FREE BEARS 09:04 * cy1 cracks open a bear and plays some tf2 09:06 bas080 Would it be weird to ask everyone in this chat to tell what they are doing atm? 09:06 bas080 What would weedy be doing? smoking? 09:10 Weedy Yes. 09:10 Weedy fgt 09:11 bas080 are you gay too? 09:11 Calinou fgt? 09:12 Weedy bas080: I want your cock 09:12 bas080 I don't have any 09:12 Weedy no fair :( 09:16 bas080 Calinou: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fgt 09:16 Calinou lol 09:25 cy1 bas080: was on tgchan, but just chilling before sleep 09:25 brobostigon good morning everyone. 09:31 Weedy cy1: http://desuchan.net/include/boards/ban_images/banned.swf 09:59 Calinou lol 10:55 cornernote hey guys 12:30 jordach|tablet sup 12:32 jordach|tablet i dont like shopping 12:40 jordach|tablet turn a pc on like a boss 14:48 jordach wtf 14:49 jordach fl studio has an odd message in the title bar 15:51 cosarara97 hi 16:02 jin_xi hi there 16:20 jin_xi reworking the painting mod as i learn lua and the modding api. 16:27 vicscandl so i have a vanilla nightly compile with no mods installed... 16:28 vicscandl lets say you were setting up a server for a friend... what mods would you put on as a "default set" for a new server? 16:29 Calinou vicscandl, moreblocks, moreores, maptools, doorsplus, stairsplus 16:29 Calinou aka: my mods :p 16:29 jordach Calinou, self supporting bastard 16:29 vicscandl Calinou: heheehh... what jordach said.. :) 16:29 jordach youre like a arch made from bricks - they self support 16:30 vicscandl there are just quite a few, with some prolific craft/coders... i'm trying to get a basis for what the community uses for a "baseline" server now that the lua/api are available 16:30 Calinou pretty much everyone uses moreores/moreblocks :P 16:31 jordach vicscandl, wool got used a lot 16:31 Calinou yeah 16:31 jordach (lemme see, redcrab, menche, sdzen, j4i) 16:31 jordach everyone uses my wool 16:36 jordach gunna go to xubuntu bbl 16:37 Calinou lol 17:25 Calinou celeron55 banned me from #minetest-dev 17:25 Calinou seriously 17:26 Calinou seriously 17:26 Calinou he's being a moron again 17:26 jordach no hes not; hes actually keeping it to devving now 17:28 Calinou that's surely how he will get help with development 17:28 jordach you can be slightly off topic here 17:28 Calinou right now, only his gf, darkrose helps him 17:28 Calinou no 17:29 MiJyn celeron55 banned me from #minetest-dev 17:29 MiJyn Good for him! 17:29 MiJyn Someone FINALLY did that 17:29 Calinou MiJyn, shut up 17:29 Calinou that isn't a good attitude for development, at all 17:29 MiJyn well, from what you did to me on #redeclipse 17:29 MiJyn I'd say it's worth it 17:30 jordach Calinou, yes it is: sometimes silence is better than noise 17:30 Calinou MiJyn was fucked with libdvdcss by Calinou who then tells them to shut the fuck up 17:30 MiJyn Calinou, plus you said this: \o/ a kick 17:30 Calinou and? 17:30 MiJyn quite rude 17:30 MiJyn well, not exactly rude 17:31 MiJyn but being a troll, rather 17:44 vicscandl VanessaE: i asked others when you were not here what "default mods" one would install on a "fresh server a friend asked you to setup for them"... your input? (selfserving your mods is acceptable, Calinou did) 17:46 cosarara97 mesecons :) 17:47 VanessaE homedecor, unifieddyes, unifiedbricks, moreores, moreblocks 17:47 VanessaE and cotton 17:48 VanessaE I also recommend worldedit, maptools, sethome, locked_sign, and protected areas 17:48 VanessaE (I forget the exact name of the last one) 17:49 VanessaE further, remove either the bucket mod or the fire mod, or disable damage/player-vs-player 17:49 VanessaE (to aid against griefing) 17:49 cosarara97 (this is not needed if it's a whitelist server) 17:50 VanessaE right. 17:56 Calinou (I forget the exact name of the last one) 17:56 Calinou aka madblocks 17:56 VanessaE no 17:56 Calinou the biggest modpack with fugly blocks and useful features 17:56 Calinou further, remove either the bucket mod or the fire mod, or disable damage/player-vs-player 17:56 VanessaE not the one that's part of madblocks, it's a separate one 17:56 Calinou disabling pvp = griefing easier 17:56 Calinou as you can't get killed 17:56 Calinou removing buckets > no 17:56 Calinou remove fire yeah, though 17:57 Calinou VanessaE, I got banned in #minetest-dev 17:57 Calinou :c 17:57 VanessaE I'm not even *on* that channel 17:57 VanessaE (should I be?) 17:57 Calinou yes, to get banned 17:57 Calinou ask "How's it going?" there 17:57 Calinou seriously 17:57 Calinou c55 is being an idiot lately 17:57 VanessaE oh this I gotta try. 17:58 Calinou he's working on the game with his gf only, darkrose 17:58 Calinou and banning everyone isn't conducive to development 17:58 VanessaE eh, ok 17:59 VanessaE nothing even happening there at the moment. 17:59 Calinou I H8 0.4 TELL ME HOWZ TO ADD WOOL IN 0.2 18:00 Calinou hi, i can code c++. 18:00 Calinou gtfo 18:00 Calinou ^ what usually happens 18:00 cosarara97 what does "Connection reset by peer" mean? 18:01 VanessaE it means he shut off his modem or something :-) 18:01 VanessaE I dunno :-) 18:01 darkrose VanessaE: the channel is quiet except when actually discussing development... hence why calinou isn't allowed in now 18:01 jordach i dislike 0.4 because it can be slow, even on 7 yr old pcs, with just enough grunt to run tf2, dont see what his problem is 18:02 VanessaE darkrose: shall I leave? 18:02 darkrose no, you're fine 18:02 VanessaE ok 18:04 jordach darkrose, whats 0.x819 meant for? 18:04 jordach 0x819 * 18:06 darkrose what where? 18:06 cosarara97 0x819 = 2073 :) (yeah, I said something useless, right?) 18:07 darkrose src/content_mapnode.cpp:73:#define CONTENT_APPLE 0x819 18:08 jordach RIGHT 18:08 jordach im just trying to work out why they are there 18:08 jordach when #define CONTENT_LADDER 31 but yet: #define CONTENT_GRASS_FOOTSTEPS 0x803 18:11 jordach i think #define CONTENT_WOOL_WHITE 50 should work? or am i wrong? 18:12 vicscandl #define MY_ASS 'effing huge'; 18:12 jordach right 18:13 cosarara97 what are these constants used for? 18:13 jordach cosarara97, node defs from ancient minetest 18:13 cosarara97 oh 18:14 vicscandl i take it there is still "code scruff" leftover from the conversion... my code always has it 18:14 vicscandl i have yet to pull up the source as my w*** is getting in the way... 18:14 cosarara97 they are used as ID's? 18:15 vicscandl (w*** != wife) 18:15 vicscandl eventually i'll get around to putting in my 2 coppers.. 18:17 VanessaE your wang? 18:17 VanessaE ;) 18:28 vicscandl naw... the other dirty word.... WORK!!!@ 18:28 VanessaE haha 18:29 vicscandl one day (one of us, right?) will win the lottery so at least ONE of us can say with some authority "FUCK WORK" 18:29 jordach vicscandl, do you know minetest 0.2? 18:29 vicscandl btw, is there a language "filter" in use here? 18:29 jordach no 18:29 jordach not from what i fucking know 18:29 vicscandl no, not at all, i am like 2 weeks into even finding minetest... 18:30 jordach ok 18:30 jordach i was quickly asking 18:30 vicscandl what i *am* is a 30 year programmer... :) 18:30 vicscandl and thats "been programming a computer for 30 years" not "30 years old" 18:32 vicscandl used to write LUA when i was admining a oldschool MUD... will be fun to do it again... :) 18:32 * cy1 misses MUF 18:33 * vicscandl gets enough MUFF, it's MUD's i miss... 18:33 vicscandl :) 18:33 cy1 o.O 18:33 cy1 anyway 18:33 cosarara97 What does MUD/MUF mean? D: 18:33 jordach vicscandl, shaved or stirred? 18:33 cy1 If I can get people to stop using that damned dofile it might be possible to sandbox lua 18:34 jordach cy1, then move the needed parts in the files its self 18:34 vicscandl jordach: hahahah 18:34 cy1 cosarara97: MUF = multi-user-forth, a very obscure concatentative language 18:34 jordach vicscandl, looks like were going to get along 18:34 vicscandl oh shit, you actually DID mean to go THAT deep... yes, know and used MUF 18:34 cy1 jordach: I think I'll replace dofile with one that (pause for dramatic effect) SPITS OUT A WARNING MUAHAHAHAHA 18:35 jordach cy1, nope.avi 18:35 cy1 why not :/ 18:35 cy1 minetest.require is better :U 18:35 jordach has anyone here played with the minetest 0.2 src 18:35 cy1 once 18:35 cy1 it sucked 18:35 cosarara97 I haven't 18:36 cosarara97 why? 18:36 cy1 didn't occlude properly 18:36 cy1 could only see one face on the blocks and only sometimes 18:37 cy1 that's been fixed in 0.4 among everything else 18:53 Pannari Anybody here? 18:53 iKlsR really.. 18:54 Pannari ? 19:00 * vicscandl is not here... 19:23 cy1 oh hey I just realized 19:23 MiJyn ...? 19:23 cy1 lua mods io.open only gets files on the server 19:23 cy1 so the server actually *can't* pwn clients with mods 19:23 MiJyn wha? 19:24 MiJyn it CAN pwn the client actually 19:24 cy1 servers can add mods, which do stuff like growing 19:24 MiJyn but we won't get into that 19:24 cy1 but the client never actually downloads those mods 19:24 cy1 the server could kill the client maybe, but pwn? 19:24 cy1 I'm talking client side filesystem access. 19:26 MiJyn I know 19:26 MiJyn I betcha anything it can 19:27 vicscandl you could have the mod open an io port, and then every cycle add 1k to it and overrun the memory quite easily... 19:28 vicscandl lua *does* block this, but i'm sure there are some creative thinkers in here... :) 19:28 vicscandl getting a lua interpreter to load on the client side from the server is a bitch tho.. :) 19:29 MiJyn wait a sec 19:30 MiJyn the server could change it's C++ code 19:31 vicscandl also, when you do this, you have to take into account the underlying OS that is running the client... 19:32 vicscandl getting the server to sideload new C++ code, compile and turn it executable..... 19:32 vicscandl you figure that one out, i've got a job for you here in southern california.... 19:33 vicscandl {{ without change to the servercode, as you are loading in 'new code' }} 19:39 cy1 vicscandl: yeah, except the client doesn't run any C++ code or compiled code from the server 19:40 cy1 or lua 20:00 vicscandl cy1: yea, thats was the point..:) 20:01 vicscandl woot! work is done (for now) time for pool and then some lua!! 20:01 vicscandl bbl 20:21 jordach night 21:05 jordach|tablet good evening 21:15 fu-fu Whats the size of the world by default? I can't seem to find it again 21:22 dom_ good evening! i just wanted to try a little minetest and tryed to craft a door, but it didn't work... does someone have an idea why this occures? 21:22 Bad_Command fu-fu: the world is generated as needed, it fits in a cube that is 65535 blocks on a side 21:23 fu-fu Thank you, Do you know of any way to increase that? 21:23 Bad_Command Not possible to increase it without very significant changes to the game engine 21:24 fu-fu Would you beable to explain why? 21:24 Bad_Command 65535 is the maximum size for the types of numbers that were chosen 21:24 Bad_Command 16 bit int, 32 bit floating point 21:25 fu-fu I figured as much, can't the unit type just be changed? (along with the corrisponding code) 21:25 Bad_Command Sure 21:25 Bad_Command But that is a significant change 21:25 fu-fu Would a client beable to recive the blocks outside that tho? 21:26 fu-fu or would it also have to be modifyed.. I'm thinking the latter. 21:26 Bad_Command The clients would have to have similar changes implemented 21:26 fu-fu Mmk 21:27 NakedFury new fork and everyone to download and compile changes 21:27 NakedFury if you do it and it works without a hitch celeron55 can bring it to the official version 21:27 fu-fu Not yet, have to make the space mod first, otherwise theres little purpose :P. 21:27 fu-fu Given, Thats going to take awhile.. 21:28 fu-fu (It would pretty much just be blockade runner in minetest) 21:29 jin_xi dom: which version? 21:35 dom_ minetest-c55 0.3.1 21:36 NakedFury http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/ 21:36 NakedFury use that site and download Latest 21:37 dom_ whats about ubuntu packages? im using stable ppa... should i use testing 21:37 jin_xi 0.3 has no door i believe 21:37 dom_ ? 21:38 NakedFury ths table 3.1 version is old and the dev 4.0 is newer and well better 21:39 dom_ okay. ill try 0.4, thank u for ur help! 21:54 brandon woah everybody is leaving minetest wow 21:55 brandon i need help though 21:55 NakedFury in what? 21:55 brandon minetest 21:55 brandon i need help putting the drop like minecraft mod on my minetest 21:56 NakedFury is it a mod? I thought that was a minetest++ stuff 21:57 brandon no 21:57 brandon http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1597 21:58 brandon im just a n00b to coding can some one help me 22:03 brandon_ can someone help me or no! 22:03 NakedFury im reading 22:03 brandon_ ok thank you man 22:04 brandon_ :D i wait 22:05 brandon_ what im still here xD 22:06 NakedFury ok you will need to add that code to item_entity.lua 22:06 NakedFury it can open with notepad 22:07 NakedFury I just dont know if that still works 22:07 brandon_ ok so sudo gedit that ok 22:08 NakedFury add the first stuff to that file 22:09 brandon_ ok hold on 22:09 NakedFury you need to remove all the > symbols and the strange numbers 25a26,30 22:10 brandon_ all the strange numbers or just 25a26,30 22:11 NakedFury all 22:12 brandon_ hmm i dont see any of the . 22:12 brandon_ > 22:13 NakedFury 25a26,30 22:13 NakedFury > dontbugme = true, 22:13 NakedFury > outercircle = 2.0, 22:13 NakedFury > innercircle = 0.5, 22:13 NakedFury > gravity = true, 22:13 NakedFury > whocaresaboutnodes = false, 22:13 NakedFury sorry for that 22:13 brandon_ this is mine -- Minetest: builtin/item_entity.lua 22:13 brandon_ function minetest.spawn_item(pos, item) 22:13 brandon_ -- Take item in any format 22:13 brandon_ local stack = ItemStack(item) 22:13 brandon_ local obj = minetest.env:add_entity(pos, "__builtin:item") 22:13 brandon_ obj:get_luaentity():set_item(stack:to_string()) 22:13 brandon_ return obj 22:13 brandon_ end 22:13 brandon_ minetest.register_entity("__builtin:item", { 22:13 brandon_ initial_properties = { 22:13 brandon_ hp_max = 1, 22:13 NakedFury that is what I see in the forum post 22:13 brandon_ physical = true, 22:13 brandon_ collisionbox = {-0.17,-0.17,-0.17, 0.17,0.17,0.17}, 22:13 vicscandl ooooooo tab character nasty! 22:13 brandon_ visual = "sprite", 22:13 brandon_ visual_size = {x=0.5, y=0.5}, 22:13 brandon_ textures = {""}, 22:13 brandon_ spritediv = {x=1, y=1}, 22:13 brandon_ initial_sprite_basepos = {x=0, y=0}, 22:13 brandon_ is_visible = false, 22:13 brandon_ }, 22:13 brandon_ 22:13 brandon_ itemstring = '', 22:13 brandon_ physical_state = true, 22:13 brandon_ set_item = function(self, itemstring) 22:13 NakedFury dont copy all 22:14 brandon_ self.itemstring = itemstring 22:14 brandon_ local stack = ItemStack(itemstring) 22:14 brandon_ local itemtable = stack:to_table() 22:14 vicscandl FUCK-N-A.... use pastebin for christ's sake! 22:14 brandon_ local itemname = nil 22:14 brandon_ if itemtable then 22:14 brandon_ itemname = stack:to_table().name 22:14 brandon_ end 22:14 brandon_ local item_texture = nil 22:14 brandon_ local item_type = "" 22:14 brandon_ if minetest.registered_items[itemname] then 22:14 brandon_ item_texture = minetest.registered_items[itemname].inventory_image 22:14 brandon_ item_type = minetest.registered_items[itemname].type 22:14 brandon_ end 22:14 brandon_ prop = { 22:14 brandon_ is_visible = true, 22:14 brandon_ visual = "sprite", 22:14 brandon_ textures = {"unknown_item.png"} 22:14 brandon_ } 22:14 brandon_ if item_texture and item_texture ~= "" then 22:14 brandon_ prop.visual = "sprite" 22:14 brandon_ prop.textures = {item_texture} 22:14 vicscandl ... does Wayne Brady have to smack a bitch, or what? 22:14 brandon_ prop.visual_size = {x=0.50, y=0.50} 22:14 brandon_ else 22:14 brandon_ prop.visual = "wielditem" 22:14 brandon_ prop.textures = {itemname} 22:14 brandon_ prop.visual_size = {x=0.20, y=0.20} 22:14 brandon_ prop.automatic_rotate = math.pi * 0.25 22:14 brandon_ end 22:15 brandon_ self.object:set_properties(prop) 22:15 brandon_ end, 22:15 brandon_ get_staticdata = function(self) 22:15 brandon_ return self.itemstring 22:15 brandon_ end, 22:15 brandon_ on_activate = function(self, staticdata) 22:15 brandon_ self.itemstring = staticdata 22:15 fu-fu wtf.. 22:15 brandon_ self.object:set_armor_groups({immortal=1}) 22:15 brandon_ self.object:setvelocity({x=0, y=2, z=0}) 22:15 brandon_ self.object:setacceleration({x=0, y=-10, z=0}) 22:15 fu-fu Why is this being posted in a irc? 22:15 brandon_ self:set_item(self.itemstring) 22:15 brandon_ end, 22:15 brandon_ on_step = function(self, dtime) 22:15 brandon_ local p = self.object:getpos() 22:15 brandon_ p.y = p.y - 0.3 22:15 brandon_ local nn = minetest.env:get_node(p).name 22:15 brandon_ if minetest.registered_nodes[nn].walkable then 22:15 brandon_ if self.physical_state 22:15 NakedFury brandon stop 22:15 brandon_ ok 22:15 fu-fu This is not what an IRC is for! 22:15 brandon_ vicscandl, calm down now one else is on 22:15 brandon_ naked fury put those lands on? 22:15 NakedFury I did not need that 22:15 brandon_ vicscandl, lol 22:15 brandon_ NakedFury, do i add that? 22:16 vicscandl fu-fu: totally what PASTEBIN is for tho... 22:16 fu-fu Aye, pastebin is greate for that 22:16 NakedFury you add the code from the post to the lua files it says 22:17 vicscandl brandon_: you could be facing a copy/paste character encoding issue... 22:17 brandon_ NakedFury, i add that ok 22:17 vicscandl but then again, i'm on linux and see more than a windows user.... 22:17 brandon_ NakedFury, so delete the > in those 22:18 brandon_ vicscandl, xD i use ubuntu 22:19 vicscandl << afk, removing BS from irssi scrollback buffer >> 22:19 vicscandl >> hahaha << 22:19 vicscandl sorry brandon_, no hard feelings.. :0 22:19 brandon_ vicscandl, yeah were cool 22:20 NakedFury jailbraking ipad like a boss 22:20 vicscandl once i get around to actually looking at the lua to interface to minetest, i'll be more of a help than a pain in the ass... 22:20 brandon_ NakedFury, i put it there and i get a failed to run 22:20 vicscandl w*** has just been a PITA today... has kept me from my proper level of procrastination/my projects 22:20 brandon_ i guess ill just do it latter 22:21 brandon_ vicscandl, what distro you have? 22:21 vicscandl hahahah which machine? 22:21 vicscandl laptop runs ubuntu server 12.04 22:22 brandon_ vicscandl, why ubuntu server lol what is a server anyway 22:22 vicscandl with heavy loading of the desktop features, minus Unity 22:22 vicscandl well... 22:23 vicscandl i'm a computer programmer by trade... my company software is mimiced on my laptop every 15 minutes 22:23 vicscandl :) 22:23 NakedFury server = some pc that should always be pretty much 24/7 on 22:23 NakedFury thats awesome 22:23 brandon_ brn 22:24 NakedFury ohh and brandon when you want to show some code or a huge text file copy/paste it to pastebin.com and then show us that link 22:24 vicscandl i've got a desktop that does the same, and a mediabuntu box for the kid 22:25 vicscandl another ubuntu box thats a 10TB NAS (run minetest there) a second with another 10TB (client data takes up 17TB currently) 22:26 vicscandl it's me job, maety! 22:26 NakedFury terrabytes they are todays gigabytes 22:27 brandon back 22:27 NakedFury by 2014 we will be using whatever comes after TB 22:27 vicscandl meh... ever SAN moved 2PB from coast to coast? 22:27 brandon NakedFury, quatrropke bye 22:27 brandon byte* 22:27 vicscandl i used to work in a monsterous banking NAS 22:27 vicscandl meh TOC 22:27 vicscandl bleh 22:27 vicscandl NOC 22:27 vicscandl fuckall typonese... go away. 22:28 brandon vicscandl, i hate unity too laggy i use mate lol 22:28 vicscandl brandon: all my servers that don't *need* a gui run flexbox 22:28 vicscandl :) 22:28 brandon i wish i had a tb 22:29 vicscandl i wish my clients were not such data whores 22:29 brandon vicscandl, i have tried mint though 22:29 brandon NakedFury, what is u have? 22:29 brandon NakedFury, OS* 22:30 brandon i miss jordan4ibanez 22:30 vicscandl brandon: mint is nice, i like it for graduating people to linux vs somethingelsethatsucksreadredmond 22:30 brandon vicscandl, yeah its for beggeners right 22:31 vicscandl naw, just for humans that fear adaption to something better 22:31 NakedFury w7 this pc, laptop ubuntu 22:31 brandon NakedFury, Why U use windows 7 it sucks lol 22:32 vicscandl well, my ride to faster internet is here.. bbl yall... 22:32 NakedFury because 98% of all games I have are windows damn only 22:32 NakedFury and most college programs too 22:33 brandon oh NakedFury have u heard of wine? 22:33 NakedFury yes 22:33 brandon why dont u just use that lol 22:33 dom_ wine is uncomfortable for most usecases 22:33 brandon yeah 22:34 brandon but i HATE windows really bad 22:35 dom_ i use a dual installation with xubuntu and windows and it work quite good 22:36 brandon i mean windows 7 starter lagged and fucked up so bad on my netbook that i wanted to blow my brains out then i found joli os ubuntu based netbook distro used that for a while with the windows isntaller then found mintforwin used that for about 1 year then i found my usb stick and installed ubuntu and im here !!!!! i deleted windows btw 22:37 brandon i really like ubuntu just that the unity thing needs to be changed so i installed mate (gnome 2 fork) 22:37 NakedFury well I like ubuntu but I cant completely switch if my programs wont work on it 22:37 brandon yeah NakedFury i get it 22:38 NakedFury maya, rhinocerous 4, autocad arch, autocad, photoshop, illustrator 22:38 dom_ NakedFury, did you try wubi? 22:38 NakedFury no idea what that is 22:38 khonkhortisan what do you think? http://f.imgtmp.com/AEav9.png 22:38 brandon Dom he has ubuntu on his laptop 22:38 NakedFury omg thats cool 22:39 NakedFury im a beginner on linux 22:39 brandon it is a windows installer of ubuntu to not duel boot with out cd or usb drive speed effects thoug 22:40 brandon khonkhortisan, THATS AWESOME 22:40 dom_ and if you dont like it you can remove it like every other windows program 22:40 brandon yes i used that 22:40 NakedFury is wine only for games? 22:41 khonkhortisan what else should I add transitions between? 22:41 brandon no NakedFury It is for everything 22:41 NakedFury grass desert 22:41 khonkhortisan okay 22:42 NakedFury think about transitions in worldgeneration. it would need grass to desert or sand or even dirt to desert/sand 22:44 brandon khonkhortisan, how to give desertsand 22:45 khonkhortisan oops server command 22:45 khonkhortisan /giveme transitions:sand_desert_sand or transitions:desert_sand_sand 9999 22:45 brandon thatks 22:46 khonkhortisan it also changes during placing/digging and I'll add it into on_generated somehow 22:48 brandon its not working 22:48 khonkhortisan it's my mod, I haven't released it yet and you haven't generated those nodes :) 22:49 khonkhortisan desertsand doesn't exist for you yet 22:49 brandon oh ohk how to give me desert sand in the game 22:49 khonkhortisan I mean sanddesertsand 22:49 brandon yes it does desert sand does how to give me real desert sand 22:49 khonkhortisan oh. /giveme default:desert_sand 9999 22:49 brandon ty 22:53 brandon how come i cannot fly! 22:53 khonkhortisan you're in singleplayer 22:53 brandon how to fly in single player 22:53 brandon it says no fly privlisge 22:54 khonkhortisan I dunno. Start a multiplayer server and block it from the outside world? I'm sure there's a way to fly in singleplayer, I just don't know it. 22:54 brandon nvm i fiexed it 22:54 khonkhortisan how? 22:55 brandon say /grant singleplayer fly 22:55 khonkhortisan don't forget fast 22:56 brandon how to go downwhile flying 22:56 brandon oh /grant singleplayer fast 22:56 khonkhortisan the same way you go down ladders. I changed my default keys 22:57 brandon i figerd it out e 22:58 brandon how to give me a mese pick? 22:59 brandon ? 22:59 NakedFury exit game to menu, enter creative mode 22:59 khonkhortisan I see on_generated slows down /grant 23:00 VanessaE hey all 23:00 VanessaE brandon: /giveme default:pick_mese 23:00 brandon oh yeah 23:01 NakedFury play creative mode 23:01 VanessaE My ISP hates me a little less today. Tech came out, took a good thorough look at our lines, installed a better modem, and now we can upgrade our speed soon too :-) 23:01 brandon ill bbl cya 23:10 khonkhortisan Is there a way to make minetest.register_abm only work once? 23:12 khonkhortisan on_generated works only once but applies to every node. abm works only on the nodes I want but does the work over and over. 23:14 NakedFury dont know but it keeps on going 23:15 Bad_Command I think that darkrose is working on node timers at the moment, which will probably allow the behaviour you want, khonkhortisan 23:15 VanessaE set the interval to a really REALLY high number?> 23:18 khonkhortisan I'll do math.inf 23:19 jin_xi painting mod v0.2 is up on github 23:25 VanessaE 0.2 eh? 23:25 khonkhortisan using an abm instead of on_ 23:25 khonkhortisan genenerated doesn't make the generation slow down, but the player digging blocks is slowed down. I'll try processing the abm through on_step and see if that speeds up interaction 23:30 VanessaE fwiw, I've noticed a pretty significant slowdown when digging chests and furnaces 23:41 khonkhortisan there should be a minetest.register_doinsparetime(func()) 23:41 VanessaE heh 23:51 khonkhortisan how do I get it to make grass footsteps? 23:52 VanessaE it don't. :-) 23:52 VanessaE footsteps is undefined or deprecated or something 23:52 khonkhortisan did it work before? 23:52 VanessaE dunno, I've never seen it but it might have at one time 23:53 VanessaE the textures are still there, so you could always define a new node to put down in place of dirt_with_grass whenever the player crosses the node 23:53 khonkhortisan all it would take is a node, a globalstep, and an abm 23:53 VanessaE why an abm? 23:53 VanessaE (to make the footprints fade?) 23:53 cy1 to change it back to grass 23:53 khonkhortisan to get rid of the footsteps 23:53 cy1 yeh 23:53 VanessaE ah hah 23:53 VanessaE GMTA :-) 23:54 cy1 there could just be 1 abm for all dirt, and it does different things depending on the season, type of dirt etc 23:54 VanessaE ahh seasons, I keep forgetting to add support for that :-) 23:55 khonkhortisan what would they be, a day in realtime? 23:55 VanessaE 4 day/night cycles in the game I think 23:55 VanessaE OH 23:56 VanessaE the seasons? heh 23:56 khonkhortisan I wanted to know that too 23:56 VanessaE dunno