Time Nick Message 00:37 benrob0329 Hello 00:48 benrob0329 Perhaps someone should just email the copyright owner of Nyan Cat to either get minetest cleared once and for all or not at all 00:48 VanessaE been there, done that, got the "fuck off" email to go with it. 00:49 benrob0329 so he dont give a crap 00:49 benrob0329 great 00:50 VanessaE years ago, when the issue first came up, I emailed him asking for licensing info. he wanted nothing to do with MT, called it a rip off, demanded his imagery be removed. that's what led me to make the revised nyan cat. 00:50 benrob0329 the creator of the worlds most well known meme doesn't have the nerve to give a straight answer on license 00:50 VanessaE and now he's sued and won against Warner Bros (well, settled out of court I guess). so fuck him. 00:51 VanessaE the safest course of action was to remove the nyan cat entirely and come up with something new and roughly equal in "cuteness". hence, pbj pup. 00:51 benrob0329 I think the bread should be a bit less brown 00:51 VanessaE that's the crust :) 00:51 benrob0329 it doesn't contrast nicely 00:54 paramat i think that brown is peanut butter on the outside 00:54 VanessaE the outside edge? that's crust. the middle is peanut butter. :) 00:56 paramat yeah 00:56 benrob0329 Aa for the "rip off", minetest was created around the same time that notch's channel still had early dev videos 00:56 paramat now i'm hungry 00:57 * VanessaE hands paramat a fluffernutter 00:57 VanessaE :) 00:57 benrob0329 What on earth is a fluffernutter? 00:57 paramat thanks, i'll eat it once i research what it is 00:57 * benrob0329 hands paramat a jelly baby 00:59 * Shara suddenly feels hungry 00:59 paramat hehe 01:00 benrob0329 Would you like a jelly baby? 01:01 VanessaE paramat: it's peanut butter + "marshmallow fluff" in a sandwich, sometimes toasted. 01:02 Shara I'm tired enough that that sounds tasty... 01:04 VanessaE I've never actually had one. 01:04 VanessaE though marshmallow fluff is tasty. 01:05 Shara It sounds nommy 01:05 Shara I'm not even completely sure I like peanut butter though. We don't really have it here 01:08 benrob0329 O_O 01:08 shivajiva I think it's fairer to say we have it but it's never been popular, most of us have bought a jar at some point and it turned a funny colour in the fridge after it was opened 01:08 Shara Hewh, well I never have! 01:08 Shara heh* 01:09 benrob0329 you refrigerated it?? 01:09 shivajiva yea I even changed it from all to most after I thought about your statement xD 01:10 benrob0329 Ive never chilled penut butter in my life 01:10 shivajiva pretty sure that's where my jar ended up 01:10 benrob0329 That might explain why it never got eaten 01:11 benrob0329 penut butter gets hard to spread in the fridge 01:11 shivajiva bought one for my daughter to try and that never made it to the fridge, it went straight to the bin lol 01:11 shivajiva same with the cashew nut butter 01:12 benrob0329 How dare you ditch perfectly good penut butterZ 01:12 benrob0329 *butter! 01:12 shivajiva I apologise, sorry :) 01:13 shivajiva but we love Marmite in our house 01:13 benrob0329 I shall have to relay this message of penut abuse to the great King Jif Skippy himself! 01:14 shivajiva now I'm wondering what marmite n peanut butter tastes like 01:14 shivajiva rofl gn ;) 01:14 Shara Probably like the world ending, one way or another >.> 01:14 Shara I better sleep too, night all :) 01:15 VanessaE night :) 01:15 * benrob0329 boots up his computer with a nice boal of chocolate ice cream 01:16 benrob0329 Boal? Bole? Ebola? 01:16 benrob0329 Idk 02:46 VanessaE Calinou: carbone_mobs appears to be trying to reach for character.x, and failing. 04:17 octacian night all! 04:40 OldCoder The first Minebest source tarball is ready. 04:40 OldCoder Fatures: (1) the old sneak code is included, (2) it works with both old and new maps, (3) it saves to the old map format, and (4) it doesn't break Technic. 04:40 OldCoder http://minetest.org/minetest-170326.tbz 04:40 OldCoder http://minetest.org/ 04:40 OldCoder Thank you for your time. 04:41 OldCoder Calinou, est31, cheapie, octacian, Zeno`, TheReaperKing, Sokomine, shivajiva, Lunatrius ^ 04:41 Calinou 2masshighlight5me 04:56 nore "(4) it doesn't break Technic." ?!? 05:07 TommyTreasure nore, it did on my server 05:08 TommyTreasure could no longer promote technic drills 05:08 nore TommyTreasure: way so, what was the problem? 05:08 nore (has this even been reported?) 05:09 TommyTreasure i'm not a coder, so keep that in mind. i can only relate the symptoms.... 05:09 TommyTreasure drill mode promotion requires shift click 05:09 nore ok 05:09 nore and? 05:10 TommyTreasure would not promote past mode 1 05:10 nore ehm 05:11 nore this is strange 05:11 TommyTreasure when i ran my game with previous binary, game tried to crash, but didn't. couldn't connect with client. 05:11 TommyTreasure my 2nd game, with old style map (my guess on this) and old binary ran fine 05:12 TommyTreasure this is a headless box, with no client installed. minetestserver only 05:12 TommyTreasure unfortunately, i backed up everthing, except for my world directory 05:13 TommyTreasure dumb mistake on my part 05:13 TommyTreasure client is jan 28, 17 .15-dev 05:14 TommyTreasure 2 totally separate and isolated machines 05:30 nore okay 05:30 nore interesting 05:30 nore will try to look at it 05:34 benrob0329 Mesecons Inc, now open for business on the corner of Lake and East on VE Survival! We'll build your contraptions, auto smelters and more! Just drop us a letter in the box and we'll see to you as soon as we can! 05:38 TommyTreasure i must say thanks to OldCoder's assistance in troubleshooting, and sending me the source. no map changes needed to be made. game works once again. many thanks to OldCoder. 05:39 TommyTreasure OldCoder took the time to download my map, mod directory and minetest_game directory for testing. must say he went _way_ out of his way to be helpful. 07:23 red-002 I think I remeber someone else reporting that issue 07:23 red-002 the technic one 07:24 red-002 they though it was my commit but apprently they found the real cause of it after bisecting 12:47 Jordach VanessaE, hold my beer 12:48 VanessaE ? 12:48 Jordach >The bed needs to have a "lump" in it when you're there 12:48 VanessaE oh. 12:48 Jordach you know exactly what happens when you challenge me to that shit :^) 12:49 VanessaE didn't seem like much of a challenge. minetest.swap_node() just before the "get into bed" animation 12:49 Jordach what about afterwards? 12:49 * VanessaE shrugs.. 12:52 Jordach eh, that solves the problem immediately without many issues 12:53 Jordach VanessaE, the eyes can also be non-standard shapes within wardrobe 12:54 Jordach i have a way of doing this - but it's a bit... uh 13:45 benrob0329 Hello 13:51 Fixer hi 13:54 nrzkt preparing work for daily builds :D 13:54 nrzkt (debian/ubuntu/fedora) 13:54 nrzkt https://gitlab.com/nerzhul/minetest/pipelines/7268388 13:54 nrzkt (in my own namespace atm) 13:55 nrzkt oh it's private 13:55 nrzkt why... 13:57 nrzkt it's fixed, nice 13:57 nrzkt it's the startup for debian/ubuntu/fedora but when it will be properly working we can think about Android, Centos, Windows and more :p 14:04 Fixer niiiice 14:08 nrzkt Fixer: it's not finished yet, it's a rampup, but idea is to use gitlab CI pipelines with docker containers to generate prebuild packages for distros everyday after minetest repository sync from github to gitlab 14:09 Fixer daily windows builds can be crosscompiled with sfans buildbot.sh (it is main method today anyway) 14:10 nrzkt Fixer: yes, i think i will look at this at the end 14:10 Jordach nrzkt, now go fix the hud api scaling bugs 14:11 nrzkt Jordach: 14:11 nrzkt no 14:12 Jordach nrzkt, it's a feature that is broken on every other system except windows 14:12 nrzkt Jordach: i know but i'm not very client UI aware 14:12 Jordach nrzkt, pop an issue for it 14:12 nrzkt Jordach: you are the reporter, open it i'm not your slave :) 14:12 Jordach that shouldn't be definitely happening 14:12 Jordach at all 16:06 kaeza greetings 16:07 Wayward_One hello :) 16:08 Jordach meep meep 16:09 XtremeHacker Roadrunner 16:09 XtremeHacker I'm working on rigging a blender thing 16:10 XtremeHacker Gonna have to do weight panting, as auto-weighting is messing up for some reason 16:17 Jordach ...use empty groups 16:17 Jordach it always works out right 16:17 Jordach (and don't forget to git gud) 16:24 sfan5 Fixer: please test https://github.com/sfan5/minetest/tree/snek3 16:24 kaeza kek3 16:25 Jordach DEPORT SNEK 16:25 Krock o/ 16:25 Jordach o/ 16:25 kaeza o/ 16:25 Fixer sfan5: ok, will do a bit later, need to finally move up from the chair with the cat, my butt hurts 16:30 Krock *patches* 16:39 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/MOUHPrh.png 16:40 Jordach hold my beer indeed 16:42 Fixer "With built-in video recorder" 16:45 sfan5 yes but it sucks 16:50 Krock Jordach, where's the mouth?! 16:50 Krock sfan5, nice. it fixes the weird sinking 16:51 sfan5 does it? 16:51 Krock well, partwise 16:51 Krock it's possible to jump even when sinking 16:51 Krock before this was blocked 16:52 Krock apparently does not work all the time. got to test deeper 16:52 Jordach Krock, missing mouth textuers atm 16:52 Jordach Krock, tl;dr http://i.imgur.com/FZRL9A0.png 16:58 Krock the strange teleporting away from the border increases with this commit a lot :/ 16:59 Krock standing too far out on a node and hitting shift results in an instant teleportation 17:01 sfan5 that's literally the same as previously 17:02 Krock only on regular nodes, sadly 17:03 kaeza Krock, while you're there, can you confirm that sneaking while submerged in liquids repeatedly plays the footstep sound? 17:03 Krock current: http://i.imgur.com/evti6pC.png patched: http://i.imgur.com/vv18Uz5.png 17:04 Krock *turns on sound and checks* 17:04 sfan5 oh 17:04 sfan5 Krock: you can't sneak on the lower part of the stair 17:05 Krock yeah, but IIRC this was possible before. But that caused bugs now, right? 17:05 sfan5 previously it would not snap you to the top, it now does 17:05 sfan5 depends on when "before" is 17:05 Krock "before" = old sneaky code 17:06 sfan5 before every node acted like a full cube when sneaking 17:07 sfan5 with the exception of nodes that are "uniformly" smaller, e.g. slabs 17:07 Krock kaeza, when reaching the bottom? see ladders, same effect 17:07 kaeza Krock, ah I see 17:08 Krock kaeza, I even opened an issue for that a while ago: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1460 17:10 kaeza Krock, ah, did not that notice until recently. I always just jump off ladders :P 17:10 Krock lol 17:10 kaeza assumed that was introduced by the sneaking changes somehow 17:10 Krock it's always the new sneak code's fault 17:10 Krock :P 17:11 kaeza yeah, thanks sfan. your sneaking fixes made wallmounted nodes appear backwards 17:12 Krock definitely the root cause ^ 17:13 kaeza but seriously now, really like the new sneaking stuff 17:13 Krock hmm.. sneaking and jumping on half-slabs is still quite interesting. sometimes you fall directly or you're sinking onto it 17:16 Krock compared with the previous code it now also disallows from jumping off a node while holding sneak 17:17 Krock (not sure if wanted or not) 17:18 sfan5 unintended side effect 17:35 benrob0329 it'd be interesting to see someone make a fps in minetest 17:36 benrob0329 (We could use wield item aninations though) 17:59 ircSparky whoa now, when did we get shift-click quick move?!!?!? 17:59 ircSparky I just noticed it 17:59 Fixer since ages? 17:59 ircSparky man 17:59 Fixer it is still not enough for me 17:59 Fixer too much strain on middle mouse button 18:01 ircSparky daaamn 18:01 ircSparky shift-middle click too?! 18:01 ircSparky I've been being hard on myself 18:02 ircSparky at least i knew that middle click crafted 10 18:02 Fixer bug near monitor detected 18:03 Fixer sfan5: fixed that issue 18:04 Krock no, shift click is rather new, added in 0.4.12-dev 18:05 Krock some older mods do not contain this new formspec element, thus it's not possible to move the stacks everywhere 18:05 Krock eeks. the new changelog isn't done yet 18:08 Fixer https://imgur.com/gallery/ulQoe5J lol 18:11 Fixer lets evade damage 18:12 Fixer season 2017 episode 0.4.15-dev 18:13 Krock Fixer, top comment is somewhat true 18:13 red-002 so all that stuff about fixing sneak was completely pointless? 18:13 Krock re-adding old behaviour with new code. it's not pointless! 18:14 Fixer sfan5: i wonder why it is not possible to make a speed limit beyound which sneak just won't work 18:14 sfan5 that's possible 18:14 sfan5 just nobody has added that 18:16 Fixer btw i'm testing it along double jump PR, hope no problems with that 18:17 Fixer it is kinda wrong to test two PRs at once 18:18 sfan5 that might break some stuff 18:18 sfan5 or maybe not 18:19 Fixer sfan5: have not, so far, will look 18:20 Fixer will paraphrase about damage evasion... why not simply set a speed limit that completely disables anything related to sneak/corners/whatevercrap - so you just fucked no matter in what pose you fly 18:21 Fixer no matter what you press 18:21 Fixer nores PR bunny jumping: https://imgur.com/a/mi3HK 18:22 Fixer "mobility" perverts will like it 18:22 Fixer add legs animation and it will look ridiculous 18:26 Fixer sfan5: in singleplayer on mountain terrain I don't see anything suspicious about it yet, will try to walk more on actual server in buildings 18:28 Fixer sfan5: when you sneak and approach stair - it instabumps to top of stair 18:29 red-002 great we replaced bugs with other bugs 18:29 Fixer i will test without nores pr 18:32 Fixer with this doublejump PR i can literally hit my head in jump, ceiling at block 5 18:33 Fixer if slab below 18:33 Fixer feels funny 18:33 Fixer it adds more ridiculousness to this sneak/doublejump debucle 18:34 Fixer bunny simulator 2018 18:35 Fixer wth is this..... 18:36 Fixer found another spot - different - more ridiculousness 18:36 Fixer will wait before SNEK3 only compile 18:37 Fixer ok 18:37 Fixer figured it out 18:37 Fixer that was sneak effect, have not seen that seen slab1 18:38 Fixer sokomine detected 18:41 Fixer snek3 only test 18:41 benrob0329 Is it possible to start minetest from tge command line (skipping the main menu and just booting into a world?) 18:42 nore Fixer: yeah, my pr is broken 18:42 nore benrob0329: I think minetest --world something? 18:42 nore or something like that 18:43 Fixer nore: well, with slabs/stairs/nodebox - could be, do you want to bunny jump on flat ground? 18:43 Fixer so much problems because of this bullshit 18:43 Amaz benrob0329: Try minetest --worldname worldname --go 18:44 * benrob0329 is thinking about a minetest launcher 18:44 nore Fixer: hm nope, this is my pr which is a quick hack and thus completely broken :) 18:44 Fixer benrob0329: there is already one - main menu 18:45 Fixer nore: i have awkward feel about all of this, not just this pr 18:45 benrob0329 Yes, butbit doesn't work well for eg on touchscreens 18:45 Fixer it is like removing glands via anal 18:45 Fixer weird feel 18:45 Shara Hi 18:45 Fixer hi 18:45 benrob0329 Tmi 18:47 Krock Fun fact: new sneak now allows climbing this structure: http://i.imgur.com/o3E49Ay.png 18:48 Krock (1 node spacing) 18:48 Shara Hi paramat 18:48 Krock o/ paramat 18:49 paramat (hi) Krock that's a simple sneak ladder, being able to climb that is good news 18:50 Krock however, the old sneak ladder with full nodes (and 1 spacing aswell) doesn't work anymore 18:50 paramat ok :] 18:51 paramat you mean the old simple ladder, yes 18:52 Fixer "can you confirm that sneaking while submerged in liquids repeatedly plays the footstep sound?" can confirm this but wonder if it is also in default 18:53 Fixer Krock: even more weirder 18:53 Fixer it is not just water 18:53 Krock Fixer, yes, see later posted issue link 18:53 Fixer if you shift while on bottom of ladder - same problem 18:54 Fixer this is so much claster---- 18:56 Fixer happens on aa5549e 18:57 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/slaQ5wx.jpg this is suggestive 18:57 Krock and for some reason my jungle trees are dying like if they were in the vietnam var 18:58 paramat don't worry about rapid footsteps, happens in many situations 18:59 Fixer paramat: the problem is it started to happen in water too, since some time 18:59 paramat well don't blame new sneak for it 19:00 paramat if you see the 'new sneak bugs' issue you can see old sneak had many bugs too, i tested 19:00 Fixer not new, i'm looking right now when it break 19:01 Fixer nevermind 19:02 Fixer 072bbba also has this sound, one more try and will leave this subject 19:04 sfan5 sfan5: when you sneak and approach stair - it instabumps to top of stair 19:04 sfan5 feature 19:04 sfan5 used to counteract the lower-stair part sneak bug reported by Shara 19:04 Fixer holy crap 19:05 Fixer this is surreal 19:05 Shara A teleport bug to fix a getting stuck bug? 19:05 Fixer yo dawg 19:06 octacian How does the mapgen_limit setting work? If set to 31000 would that mean that the map would be generated 31000 blocks each direction from spawn? 19:06 octacian (spawn = 0,0,0) 19:22 paramat octacian yes 19:22 octacian paramat: good, thanks. 19:23 paramat that's also default behaviour and what happened before we had the limit 19:23 paramat 31000 19:23 paramat 31000 was the old fixed limit 19:30 Fixer suddenly this https://i.imgur.com/sFV81wh.png 19:31 Shara Clearly a new feature. 19:31 Fixer it is enlarged chicken renamed into turkey with turkey sound 19:31 Shara I actually sort of like it. 19:31 Shara I did it with bats after all. 19:32 Fixer it is huge turkey 19:32 Shara And... now I'm hungry again. 19:32 Amaz It looks a bit like some strange dinosaur 19:32 Shara What is it with this channel and making me feel hungry? 19:32 Amaz Oooo, a chicken that size would be good 19:32 Amaz *drools* 19:32 Shara Not helping >.> 19:33 Amaz Sorry :P 19:33 Shara Now I'm thinking about ancient unfinished cookie mod! 19:33 Amaz Although this has made me hungry - and I've just eaten... 19:33 RobbieF TPS-Crappy has kittens that are generally larger than elephants. Just sayin'. 19:33 thefamilygrog66 That thing is huge! 19:33 Shara RobbieF :D 19:34 Calinou hi RobbieF 19:34 Amaz Talking about elephants, does anyone have a half-decent elephant model? I mean adding Oliphants to LOTT would be cool :) 19:34 RobbieF hey Calinou! 19:35 RobbieF Amaz I like the mobs-redo model quite well! 19:35 Amaz Oooo, there's one in mobs redo? :D 19:36 Amaz I didn't realise that :D 19:36 Shara I thought it was in dmobs 19:36 RobbieF oh maybe tenplus1 adapted it for me 19:36 RobbieF I have it in redo 19:36 RobbieF but there IS one on TPS-Domes, that's the point LOL 19:36 Shara Yea, but redo itself doesn't have mobs 19:36 Shara That's just... the thing that handles them 19:36 RobbieF sorry, you know what I mean :D 19:36 Shara :D 19:36 RobbieF yes, the api 19:37 Shara Amaz: Check dmobs 19:37 RobbieF don't get all semantic on me :) 19:37 Amaz Shara, okay :D 19:37 Shara My version of dmobs has ridable elephants, not sure if the originals are ridable 19:37 * Amaz passes out 19:37 Amaz The awesomeness 19:37 * Amaz needs this 19:37 Amaz :P 19:38 Fixer Well, chicken is kinda dinosaur, just smaller 19:38 Shara Heh, I keep saying I'll make my version public sometime. 19:38 Fixer Zeno knows for sure 19:38 benrob0329 Hi RobbieF 19:38 Shara But realised I need to figure out license stuff and things to show in a presentable way and got a headache and... gqave up. :) 19:39 Amaz License stuff can be annoying at times 19:39 Shara Since I think I combined things from three different places into my version of the mod now. 19:39 Shara My version has bats and bugs from other mods. 19:41 RobbieF Amaz I have the elephant attack me on TPS Episode 21 if you want to see it 19:41 Amaz Link? :D 19:42 RobbieF http://minetest.tv 19:42 Amaz ty :) 19:42 RobbieF :D 19:42 RobbieF might have to skim to find that bit... probably ~ 1/2 way+ mark 19:42 Amaz Okay, thanks! 20:04 Amaz RobbieF: Just saw your murder by that elephant xD 20:05 RobbieF :D 20:05 RobbieF good model eh? 20:05 RobbieF and you're right; it was a MURDER 20:05 RobbieF lol 20:05 Amaz Yup :P 20:05 RobbieF vicious creatures 20:05 RobbieF and I'm all "I hope they're friendly" 20:06 Amaz Yup 20:06 RobbieF Note: they are not. 20:06 Amaz And that sigh after it killed you :P 20:06 RobbieF LOL 20:06 Amaz And was that a troll that spawned right next to it when you went back there? :P 20:06 Amaz Ah, yes, it was :P 20:07 Amaz Your lucky day :p 20:08 RobbieF likely! 20:08 RobbieF lol 20:18 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/I2WmmXW.png 20:19 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/FucbAus.png 20:20 kaeza >FucbAus 20:20 kaeza so close 20:20 kaeza also what is that? O.o 20:21 Jordach why are thoes clouds different 20:21 Jordach like they've got a texture 20:21 Jordach waita minute 20:21 Jordach that's MC 20:22 sofar you sound disappointed 20:22 Jordach when did we get that 20:23 Fixer mc beta 1.7.3 with Etho world (one from 2011) 20:23 Fixer did some archeology 20:24 Fixer that was candy texture pack 20:24 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/auWaBs6.jpg 20:25 Fixer dokucraft 20:25 thefamilygrog66 My lame, yet successful, attempt to create/export a red sphere in blender, and use it for a mob: https://vid.me/VY3H 20:26 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/36yupTC.jpg this one was converted for minetest by someone 20:26 Fixer faithful 32px 20:31 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/aW62kLw.png johnsmith 20:32 Fixer dat crosshair 20:34 benrob0329 (Offtopic) https://levans.fr/blog//rust_wayland_1-en.html 20:40 Fixer wayland development feels as fast as minetest one 20:40 Fixer 10 years passed 20:40 Fixer still waiting 20:51 * Sokomine hides from Fixer 20:51 Sokomine ah :-) code archeology sounds intresting 21:02 Jordach wooo 21:02 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/ncBxra4.png 21:02 Jordach dynamically supporting ones with extra facial textuers 21:02 Jordach or features like eyeliner 21:06 Fixer https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=17111 KEK 21:06 Fixer and i thought like 12 hours ago... about compressed cobble 21:11 Calinou I think More Blocks has compressed cobble too 21:11 Calinou (only 1 tier) 21:11 Jordach Calinou, just call it ExtraUtils and call it a day ;) 21:12 Calinou libExtraUtilToolsFrameworkHelperMod 21:12 Fixer lib.Extra.Util.Tools.Framework.Helper.Mod 21:12 Fixer License: ISC 21:12 Fixer wth 21:13 Calinou where did you see that? :P 21:13 Fixer https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=17079 21:14 Calinou what's wrong with ISC license? 21:14 Fixer Calinou: never heared of it 21:26 benrob0329 Its OpenBSD's goto license 21:28 Calinou npm also defaults to it in "npm init" 22:12 red-002 Fixer, at least we are not reactos 22:12 red-002 to be fair through they have to recreate a whole OS 22:12 benrob0329 Buy they're doing it! 22:13 benrob0329 So props to them 22:13 red-002 but thier forums aren't much better https://www.reactos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=16283 22:14 Jordach >(1) You're two decades late with your objections. (2) I don't think the objections matter. 22:14 Jordach roasted and toasted 22:15 * benrob0329 might stick reactos on a vm 22:16 benrob0329 maybe I can get some windows games to run decently without wine 22:16 Jordach it's called a VM with windows and GPU passthrough 22:16 benrob0329 And I don't mean being so drunk it doesn't natter anymore 22:17 red-002 lol 22:17 Jordach are you alright, benrob0329 22:17 benrob0329 yes 22:17 benrob0329 I think 22:17 benrob0329 Maybe 22:17 benrob0329 Probably not 22:18 Fixer PART FISH @ PART GIRL 22:19 benrob0329 I'm doing better than he is apparently 22:19 red-002 seems so indeed 22:19 * benrob0329 is now away 22:20 nerzhul benrob0329, i play skyrim on wine in ultra mode works fine :) 22:20 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/cCDXkHa.png 22:21 rubenwardy Skyrim works in Wine???????? 22:21 rubenwardy why have I not been told this? 22:21 nerzhul rubenwardy, yes, it works perfect on mine, sometimes fps drop when too many casters but works well 22:21 nerzhul i have arch with wine-csmt 22:22 nerzhul wine-staging 22:22 nerzhul which has the csmt patchset to improve performance 22:23 Jordach nerzhul, hard mode: fallout 4 22:24 nerzhul Jordach, i don't have it :p 22:26 VanessaE sofar: here's another candidate for minetest-mods, https://github.com/cyisfor/inventory_sorter (no commits in over three years, and I've seen a complaint of corrupted textures therein) 22:26 Fixer from me 22:26 Fixer not corrupted - just usage of symlinks on windows 22:26 Fixer which is not working here 22:26 VanessaE Fixer: "timsoft" on the forum, also. 22:27 sofar I can't skyrim on wine, tried many times 22:27 nerzhul sofar, i have a AMD 7970 22:27 sofar that sucks 22:27 sofar I'm sorry to hear that 22:27 nerzhul it's not a recent card but very decent :p and doesn't benefit from current AMD work as it's a GCN 1.1 22:27 sofar unfortunately, even though I work for Intel, I can't give out free CPUs 22:28 nerzhul i talked about my GPU not CPU 22:28 sofar I was just kidding 22:28 nerzhul my CPU is a FX 8350 it consume some electricity, but in france we have nuclear power :p 22:28 Amaz So you do hand out free CPUs, sofar? :D 22:28 Amaz ;) 22:28 sofar it may not produce CO2, but it's not renewable 22:29 sofar Amaz: no, but I myself have gotten freebies before :) 22:29 Amaz Nice :) 22:29 sofar although it's been a while 22:29 sofar I'll need to replace them soon, 5yrs old already now 22:30 sofar 6-core 12-thread cpu's are hard to let go :) 22:30 * Amaz is jealous 22:30 Jordach sofar, R Y Z E N 22:30 rubenwardy !seen tenplus1 22:30 ShadowBot rubenwardy: I saw tenplus1 in #minetest-project 1 week, 2 days, 5 hours, 55 minutes, and 19 seconds ago saying "all of a sudden staticdata is returned as nil when i go back into an area filled with tamed mobs..." 22:30 * sofar is triggered 22:30 Jordach LMAO 22:30 nerzhul Intel != Free CPU, they add bloat in linux kernel :p 22:31 sofar they're not free to you 22:31 nerzhul :p 22:31 sofar you better pay part of my salary when you buy one 22:31 nerzhul FX 8350 = 8 CPU it's very nice 4Ghz also 22:31 Jordach sofar, eh, i have an i5 4690 22:31 Fixer i3 22:31 sofar Jordach: that's a nice one, will last you a few more years 22:32 Jordach sofar, my bios lets me OC it 22:32 Jordach it corrupts UEFI gfx 22:32 sofar I'm still on a HSW desktop myself at work 22:32 Jordach but windows boots just fine 22:32 Jordach it can go ~4.4Ghz 22:32 Fixer Jordach: iirc there were motherboards that allowed overclock of intel cpus 22:32 Jordach Fixer, Z97-K ASUSTek 22:34 sofar many boards 22:34 Fixer can overclock any, not just K versions 22:34 Fixer i don't have details 22:34 Fixer but it is possible 22:35 Jordach the Hyper Evo 212 cooler with twin 120mm fans do a decent job of cooling it 22:35 sofar tbh I never overclock 22:35 Jordach ^ 22:36 Jordach product lifetime vs early death and performace 22:36 sofar getting a good power supply and a nice fan is a much better deal 22:36 sofar I need my system to be reliable above all 22:36 sofar 2 days downtime and I'm in fetus position in a corner reciting biblical verses 22:37 Jordach my m8s OC'd i7 4790k has a waterloop with an air bubble 22:38 Jordach it gets spicy 22:38 sofar model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz 22:38 sofar preprod CPU without any locks 22:38 Jordach Intel ME leaks wen 22:38 Jordach Kappa 22:39 sofar could care less, this box is in the office anyway 22:41 Fixer holy crap 22:41 Fixer shit breaked 22:41 Fixer was afking, when suddenly something approaching very fast... turns out that huge turkey... 22:42 sofar the country or animal? 22:42 Jordach dem roaches 22:43 Fixer animal in Just Test 2 22:43 Fixer footsteps were alarmingly fast and I had to open minetest window 22:44 Fixer huge ch..turkey was moving fast in my direction 22:44 Fixer i step away 22:44 Fixer to the side 22:44 Fixer luckily it just walked near me and made few sounds 22:45 Sokomine ah, those chicken? they're...huge 22:46 Fixer JT2 is simply insanely huge 22:46 Sokomine players on that server are more dangerous. there are many friendly ones, but it is also a server where pvp is allowed. i personally don't like that 22:46 Fixer larger than player 22:46 Fixer http://www.ancientdomainsofmystery.com/2017/03/the-adom-build-system.html 22:47 Sokomine yes, they're pretty big, those chicken. a big mystery where they came from, what they do (except running around very fast), what they're up to...probably a conspiracy :-) 22:47 Sokomine they can indeed be scary 22:48 * VanessaE pokes Sokomine 22:48 * Sokomine hides behind such a huge chicken :-) 22:49 Sokomine VanessaE: yes, i know. i need to take care of your pull request. need to think about how to do it best... 22:49 Fixer Sokomine: maikerumine enabled them for a holiday and forgot to disable iirc 22:49 Sokomine currently i'm trying to include a way to manually build/repair a house that was placed using handle_schematics 22:50 VanessaE Sokomine: I made a pull request? I was just poking you :) 22:50 Sokomine fixer: oh. hope he keeps them on. they where (apart from the buildings and some very friendly players) something i actually liked there 22:50 Sokomine VanessaE: maybe you thought that was necessary after having to wait so long :) can't hurt to poke now and then :) 22:51 VanessaE nope, I figured you'll get to it whenever :) 23:02 Fixer https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/03/23/making-dungeon-crawl-stone-soup-with-253-cooks-and-no-head-chef/ 23:02 Fixer found some parallels with minetest 23:05 Jordach >they post a design document on the development wiki, detailing the changes that they want to make. 23:05 Jordach WHY DON'T WE HAVE THIS 23:05 rubenwardy Jordach, http://dev.minetest.net/TODO 23:08 red-002 how many forks of minetest are there right now? 23:09 Fixer just read the article 23:09 rubenwardy just freeminer, basically 23:09 Fixer it has some insight on project development 23:09 rubenwardy minebest is coming soon[tm] 23:09 red-002 what about voxellands? 23:09 rubenwardy oh yeah 23:09 Fixer rubenwardy: and mobile one... forgot the name 23:09 rubenwardy but that's 0.3.1 23:09 red-002 rubenwardy, he released zip 23:09 red-002 no git repo right now 23:10 red-002 it seems to be mostly a client thing 23:11 paramat freeminer and voxelands dev are both very quiet recently 23:12 red-002 I hope minebest doesn't go gpl like freeminer 23:13 Fixer multicraft is big one 23:13 Fixer for crippled devices 23:14 Shara multicraft lately seems like thing intended to make players sulk at me 23:15 Fixer why? 23:15 red-002 I guess in a werid way the fork became bigger then the orignal 23:15 Shara Users report problems opening inventory 23:15 red-002 but still bases it's code of mt 23:16 Fixer hah 23:18 Fixer it seems minetest itself is just 25% of userbase? 23:19 Fixer multicraft is 62% 23:19 Fixer mobile users = 90$ 23:19 Fixer % 23:19 Fixer https://kitsunemimi.pw/tmp/serverlist_stats_2017-03-17.txt 23:25 paramat nuts 23:27 paramat unfortunately they can access our servers :] 23:28 rubenwardy well, it's better to compare quality of players 23:29 Shara I mostly don't mind where players are coming from, though did get annoyed by whichever client it was that made them pay to use privs I had granted them... 23:29 Fixer then you need to ban whole android more or less 23:30 paramat yes. can servers actually refuse entry to multicraft etc clients? 23:30 paramat i mean yes judge on quality 23:31 Shara I never managed to find out which client it was... but at one time many younger players were telling me they could not fly on my creative because it told them to pay for an upgrade for that priv. 23:31 Shara So I was paying to run server, and my players were paying someone else to use privs I granted them.... 23:32 paramat i would support servers being able to ban any undesirable client type, if they want to 23:33 Shara Would be nice. 23:34 Shara Though that's the only one so far I'd have used it on. 23:35 Shara News formspec on creative server has a permanant request to use official clients. 23:35 Grandolf hm 23:37 Grandolf i would support servers being able to ban any undesirable client type, if they want toselling game access with nyan cat 23:45 Jordach >EASY DMCA 23:45 Jordach YOU FUCKING MORONS 23:45 Jordach a perfect trump card 23:45 Shara I knew where you were going soona s you said that :D 23:45 Shara I'm still so tempted to make red cat replacement... 23:46 Shara MT not having a cat in it... 23:46 Shara Jordach: Meow :( 23:46 rubenwardy you need to be the owner to send a DMCA, btw 23:46 thefamilygrog66 My server has nyan cat mobs 23:46 Jordach rubenwardy, anyone can file it 23:46 Jordach even on behalf 23:46 Shara thefamilygrog66: Yea, you can just keep the old mod, but it's not in MTG anymore. So be careful when you update 23:56 Fixer " Fixed an apparently 1 in 10000000ish chance for a call to random(1,10) to return an 11 that must have been there for years" 23:56 Fixer kek