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IRC log for #minetest-mods, 2012-09-06

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Time Nick Message
06:31 VanessaE joined #minetest-mods
11:02 Jeija_ joined #minetest-mods
14:50 PilzAdam joined #minetest-mods
14:57 Jordach joined #minetest-mods
14:57 Jordach VanessaE - FreeBSD or Ubuntu 12.10 64-Bit
14:58 PilzAdam Ubuntu +1
14:58 thexyz wtf
14:59 thexyz why you aren't comparing ubuntu with stone?
15:00 thexyz i guess that comparsion would has as much sense as yours
15:01 Jordach thexyz - hey, its just make for updates
15:02 VanessaE beats me, I haven't used freebsd since the 90's I think it was
15:02 thexyz ?
15:02 thexyz nobody uses freebsd
15:04 Jordach feckin linuxarians
15:09 VanessaE change of subject:  what's the image order for textures= in an entity?
15:09 VanessaE same as a regular cube, right?
15:09 VanessaE (+y, -y, +x, -x, +z, -z  ?)
15:09 Jordach yes
15:10 VanessaE ok
15:10 PilzAdam depends on drawtyoe
15:10 PilzAdam *drawtype
15:10 VanessaE these are drawn as a cube.
15:10 VanessaE (I'm adding textures to something jeija is working on)
15:14 Jordach PilzAdam - embrace something other than craziness
15:14 Jordach thexyz - no i want to be free and not attached to gpl
15:14 Jordach VanessaE - bsd is almost wtfpl
15:15 thexyz lol
15:15 VanessaE heh
15:15 thexyz in which way are you attached to gpl?
15:15 Jordach no distributing bins
15:15 Jordach it sucks
15:15 thexyz what?
15:15 Jordach binaries
15:16 Jordach bleh
15:16 Jordach esp. if im going to do coding
15:16 thexyz and what's problem here?
15:16 Jordach and open source my stuff
15:16 thexyz aaaand?
15:16 Jordach i want to provide a already done binary without having to goto downloads on github
15:17 Jordach (and provide a win bin for them)
15:17 thexyz aaaaand why can't you do that?
15:17 Jordach because fuck gpl
15:17 thexyz it seems you don't understand gpl
15:17 Jordach bas is approx 100x faster - NO DRIVERS IN KERNEL
15:18 Jordach s/bas/bsd
15:18 thexyz yes, you are right here
15:18 thexyz BSD = no drivers
15:18 thexyz period
15:18 Jordach noinononononono
15:18 Jordach you do not understand bsd
15:19 Jordach i can start with stable v1 and go straight to current without problems
15:19 thexyz maybe
15:19 Jordach can your linux do that?
15:19 Jordach without dying?
15:19 thexyz do what?
15:19 Jordach update from v1 to the -dev without failing
15:19 thexyz umm...
15:19 Jordach im talking of the 1990 kernel
15:19 thexyz my gentoo does not have any -dev packages
15:20 Jordach gentoo is alright
15:20 thexyz oh, nice
15:20 thexyz let's talk about features nobody will use
15:20 Jordach alright
15:20 thexyz anyway, that's up to you to choose your OS
15:20 thexyz i just wanted to say that you don't understand gpl
15:20 thexyz gpl doesn't stop you from releasing binaries
15:21 thexyz and you don't have to use gpl if you're coding your project in linux-based distro
15:22 Jordach no i mean the os if i fix something major and wish to release
15:23 thexyz and what's problem here?
15:24 Jordach no idea maybe im just a little cloudy
15:24 Jordach VanessaE - would 64bit ubuntu work on a p4?
15:24 VanessaE if newer than 2004 I guess yeah
15:25 Jordach 2006 cedar mill (i think)
15:25 VanessaE dunno for sure, I use AMD.
15:25 VanessaE 2006 is probably fine...try it? :-)
15:25 Jordach lga775
15:26 thexyz Jordach: do cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags
15:27 Jordach WIN32
15:27 Jordach DUH
15:27 thexyz lol
15:28 Jordach VanessaE INTEL P4 Presscott
15:29 VanessaE just try it :-)
15:29 Jordach em64t
15:30 * Jordach waits for download of ubuntu to finish
15:30 VanessaE I *assume* you grabbed 12.04 AMD64. :-()
15:30 VanessaE :-)
15:30 Jordach AMD?
15:30 VanessaE yeah
15:30 VanessaE x86_64
15:30 Jordach ohhh
15:30 VanessaE (same thing now, AMD64 is the same thing now)
15:30 VanessaE HAH!
15:30 Jordach yeah my gpu is 64bit on a 32 os so yep, im 64bit cpu
15:31 Jordach why didnt MS go x64 when it came out?
15:31 VanessaE Oh did I mention that I work for the Department of Redundancy Department?  I'm in charge of dealing with excess overages and surplus extras.
15:31 VanessaE eh, too much i386/x86 legacy
15:31 VanessaE too much inertia, you know
15:33 Jordach yep
15:46 Jordach VanessaE - redundancy?
15:57 Jordach 96%done
15:59 Jordach verifying
16:02 Jordach i as right about em64t
16:02 Jordach thats 64birt
16:04 Jordach VanessaE http://pastebin.com/hbbMB9JX
16:07 VanessaE *shrug* I ain't no expert on CPUs :-)
16:07 VanessaE yet another reason to avoid intel ;)
16:08 Jordach my last tower was amd
16:08 Jordach blew the psu
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16:08 Jordach sse1 running sse2 instructions bridghe
16:08 Jordach at 1.2ghz (duron)
16:08 Jordach bbl
16:09 Jordach (testing)
16:16 jordach-tab joined #minetest-mods
16:16 jordach-tab almost there :-)
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16:52 jordach-tab vanessae, installed fine unity3d is laggin me out
16:53 VanessaE solution:  apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
16:53 VanessaE then log out and back in with XFCE
16:53 VanessaE traditional desktop metaphor restored. :-)
16:54 thexyz jordach-tab: time to download debian
16:55 jordach-tab no. :-)
16:56 * jordach-tab stays smug about bsd being better :-)
16:57 thexyz have you tried it?
16:57 thexyz (because i haven't)
16:57 jordach-tab now, we find out.
16:59 jordach-tab bsd is kde but better
16:59 thexyz wtf
17:00 jordach-tab kernel is way different, but the ui is kde :-)
17:01 jordach-tab FUCK.
17:02 jordach-tab one reboot later, the ui appears :-)
17:02 jordach-tab damn you unity
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17:09 jordach better
17:10 VanessaE what is?
17:11 jordach its all working now
17:12 VanessaE and "all" is..what?
17:12 VanessaE some kde knockoff, or XFCE goodness? ;-)
17:15 jordach unity works
17:15 VanessaE ew.
17:21 jordach aaaaaaaannnnndddddd?
17:22 VanessaE I'm strictly a desktop user.  the tablet metaphor of unity just does not work on the desktop IMHO.
17:22 VanessaE on tablets/phones, sure I guess
17:22 jordach I OWN A TABLET
17:24 * jordach tries minetest - HOLY SHIT
17:26 VanessaE oh.
17:27 jordach oh christ 64bit is fast
17:27 * jordach needs to get used to this
17:29 jordach 64 is like red bull
17:29 jordach s/64/64bit
17:33 jordach VanessaE - my server will be up in a min :D
17:34 VanessaE busy right now..
17:34 jordach just saying
17:58 jordach mt runs at a rock steady 40fpd
17:59 VanessaE yes, significant improvement in 0.4.3
17:59 VanessaE I saw a 10 or 15fps gain
17:59 VanessaE with 521px textures yet
18:08 jordach 521 ?
18:09 VanessaE 512
18:12 jordach lol
18:12 jordach just messin'.
19:12 jordach server works
19:12 jordach girlfriend tested

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