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IRC log for #minetest-mods, 2012-08-31

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10:55 Jordach hello all
10:56 PilzAdam hi
10:56 Jordach found out why mine wont port forward
10:56 Jordach my ip (local) is 192.168.2.3 it should be 192.168.2.2
11:07 Jordach joined #minetest-mods
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11:13 Jordach_2 can someone try 81.155.110.55 : 30000 with 0.4.2?
11:14 * PilzAdam tries
11:15 PilzAdam nope, doesnt work
11:17 Jordach ooh
11:17 Jordach my isp box allows noip ad dyndns
11:20 Jordach try again
11:21 PilzAdam yes
11:21 Jordach the DMZ setting on my router was the problem
11:26 Jordach VanessaE; IT WORKS!
11:38 Jordach hello sfan5
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14:21 Jordach back
14:32 Jordach VanessaE; my server is working now
14:54 * VanessaE is back
15:01 Jordach VanessaE; i am adding nodes from moreblocks moreoers into colors.txt
15:01 VanessaE cool
15:01 VanessaE but,
15:01 Jordach yes
15:01 Jordach you were saying?
15:01 VanessaE I think someone released a version of the mapper that doesn't need colors.txt.. or maybe it was a tool that can auto-generate it from the textures, I don't remember for sure now
15:02 Jordach feck that
15:02 Jordach i run a custom gamemode
15:02 Jordach so i cant reallly
15:02 VanessaE feck?
15:02 Jordach irish for ...
15:02 VanessaE Come up Jordach.  If you're gonna use the F-word, go for the gold.
15:03 Jordach fuck that
15:03 Jordach ;)
15:03 VanessaE better. :-)
15:03 Jordach heres my map so far http://i.imgur.com/pHwwH.png
15:03 Jordach without stairs the was this large water bit on my bridge
15:04 Jordach i plan on making a full color.txt
15:05 * Jordach thought about cotton - FUCK THAT NOISE
15:06 VanessaE speaking of noise you should see how HDX cotton and similar substances look with the Anisotropic+MipMap build I use.  Smooth as silk now
15:06 VanessaE no.  more.  noise. !
15:06 Jordach do i look like im a 64bit system?
15:07 Jordach pentium 4 prescott ftw 64/32
15:07 Jordach bits
15:07 VanessaE he
15:07 VanessaE heh
15:07 VanessaE and fwiw all pentiums are 64bit
15:08 VanessaE the problem back then was too much inertia from i386 apps
15:09 Jordach wait wait wait
15:09 Jordach we've had 64bit all this time
15:10 VanessaE yep.
15:10 * Jordach always goes for 32 bit OS
15:11 VanessaE 64bit is safe to run today
15:11 * Jordach smashes keyboard over VanessaE's head
15:11 VanessaE there's no longer any issue with 32-on-64 bit stuff
15:11 * Jordach hits VanessaE with every goldbar in fort knox
15:11 Jordach the above wont work
15:11 Jordach fort knox no longer stores gold
15:12 VanessaE oh wait, I'm wrong about the early pentiums - it was the P4 that was 64 bit.
15:12 VanessaE but that's been around for ages (since 2000)
15:15 Jordach sweet 8gb of ram.......drools
15:15 Jordach also the red bits on my map was desert_sand
15:16 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/pHwwH.png vs http://i.imgur.com/Ru7MV.png (old vs updated colors.txt)
15:17 Jordach (lighter stone is stairs)
15:19 VanessaE I only have 4GB of ram on my box.
15:19 VanessaE "only" ...and I grew up in the days when 2MB was enough.
15:19 Jordach hehehe
15:20 VanessaE (and then only needed for "huge" data sets.  64k was enough for everything else :)  )
15:20 Jordach im running what 1gb and 32 bit; mt runs fine at 50fps
15:20 Jordach :)
15:21 Jordach btw, use wanted_fps = 60 in minetest.conf
15:21 Jordach perma 60 fps
15:21 VanessaE added.  I'll see how that behaves later
15:21 * Jordach thinks to do wool mod for colors.txt
15:21 VanessaE minetest is slow even with a shit-hot-fast card like mine.
15:21 Jordach ikr
15:22 * Jordach waits for a vicscandl build
15:22 VanessaE i hope so, where'd he disappear to anyway?
15:22 Jordach no idea
15:23 VanessaE I was gonna see if I can talk him into making a proper interface to the main menu to let people turn Anisotropic Filtering+ Mipmap and Bi/Tri-linear filtering on and off properly.
15:24 VanessaE I've already proven they work perfectly on a system that supports those features.
15:24 NakedFury just add that stuff to the options tab
15:24 VanessaE NakedFury: that's my point
15:24 VanessaE someone needs to add them
15:24 NakedFury we should have to go to conf file and change things
15:24 NakedFury we should not
15:24 VanessaE (and an option to set the threshold above which to apply the Bi-/Trilinear)
15:25 Jordach SLIDERS!!! THAT'S HOW WE ROLL HERE!
15:25 VanessaE Jordach: I was thinking a simple spinbutton.
15:25 NakedFury sliders, checkboxes, drop down menu, whatever
15:25 VanessaE click 16->32->64->128->256->512->16
15:25 NakedFury even if the game is in alpha testing beta testing having this stuff in Options is testing
15:29 Jordach wool supported in colors.txt
15:29 Jordach (16)
15:30 VanessaE NakedFury: bring it up with c55 over in -dev
15:31 VanessaE he ain't gonna listen to me, we need additional people demanding it :-)
15:31 Jordach ima  16px fan so no from me
15:33 VanessaE Proposal:  Checkbox to turn on Anisotropic Filtering; Checkbox to turn on MipMap; Spinbutton to set the Anisotropic filtering type (default to Nearest Neighbor); Spinbutton to set Bilinear, Trilinear, or None; Spinbutton or Slider to set the resolution above which Bilinear/Trilinear is applied.
15:33 Jordach since people are lazy and wont update colors.txt here http://minetest.net/forum/vi​ewtopic.php?pid=40414#p40414
15:34 NakedFury drop down not spinbutton
15:34 VanessaE NakedFury: ok, dropdown then
15:35 VanessaE Proposal:  Checkbox to turn on Anisotropic Filtering; Checkbox to turn on MipMap; Spinbutton to set the Anisotropic filtering type (default to Nearest Neighbor); Dropdown or Spinbutton to set Bilinear, Trilinear, or None; Dropdown or Slider to set the resolution above which Bilinear/Trilinear is applied.
15:35 VanessaE fuck, that still isn't right
15:35 VanessaE Proposal:  Checkbox to turn on Anisotropic Filtering; Checkbox to turn on MipMap; Dropdown to set the Anisotropic filtering type (e.g. linear, cubic, etc., default to Nearest Neighbor); Dropdown to set Bilinear, Trilinear, or None; Dropdown or Slider to set the resolution above which Bilinear/Trilinear is applied.
15:35 VanessaE there.
15:36 NakedFury sliders to adjust Music volume and Sound volume
15:36 NakedFury checkbox for Fullscreen or windowed
15:37 VanessaE NakedFury: one thing at a time.
15:37 Jordach y u no use pastebin?
15:37 Jordach or a gist
15:37 VanessaE because I'm lazy ;-)
15:38 Jordach if marktraceur was here he'd moan
15:39 Jordach there
15:39 Jordach you can now see my face
15:47 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/vi​ewtopic.php?pid=40417#p40417
15:47 VanessaE there.
15:47 VanessaE read the rest of the thread too.  If you have even a reasonably recent video card i.e. less than 10 years old, some of the settings I've proposed there will probably work for you also.
15:48 Jordach yes nvidia
15:48 VanessaE even integrated graphics has some of that stuff.
15:48 Jordach mauvebic's till alive http://minetest.net/forum/vi​ewtopic.php?pid=40403#p40403
15:51 Jordach done.
15:51 Jordach my avatars on G+ twitter mt and soundcloud are in sync
15:57 Jordach sig updated
15:58 Jordach VanessaE; you can try my server now
15:58 Jordach minetest.zapto.org 30000
16:02 VanessaE later
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16:25 VanessaE hoho
16:25 VanessaE as expected, c55 pretty much hates my idea - he thinks it'll turn MT's menus into THIS:  http://grandfiles.com/tutor​ials/epsxe/petesopengl.png
16:25 PilzAdam i would like it this way...
16:26 VanessaE which way?
16:26 PilzAdam http://grandfiles.com/tutor​ials/epsxe/petesopengl.png
16:26 VanessaE yes?
16:27 PilzAdam yes
16:27 VanessaE you're prefer it crammed with options?
16:27 PilzAdam i like settings
16:27 VanessaE Then tell him on -dev, please (and don't say I sent you either :-) )
16:27 VanessaE he needs to know that he's a sore minority on this subject.
16:27 VanessaE someone will code it if I press hard enough I'm sure
16:27 VanessaE :)
16:28 VanessaE here's my proposal that he hates:
16:28 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/vi​ewtopic.php?pid=40417#p40417\
16:28 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/vi​ewtopic.php?pid=40417#p40417
16:28 PilzAdam hmm... he seems somehow pissed of right know
16:28 PilzAdam so i will wait a bit
16:28 VanessaE http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2012-08-31
16:29 VanessaE here's the rest of the conversation
16:29 VanessaE how in the world did I piss him off here?
16:29 PilzAdam idk
16:49 Jordach VanessaE; two words: pre-menstural
16:49 VanessaE heh
16:50 VanessaE go to -dev and tell him he's wrong then :-)
16:50 Jordach no.
16:50 VanessaE chickenshit ;)
16:50 Jordach im neutral and staying that way
16:50 PilzAdam Jordach, +1
16:51 Jordach hmm thats odd; everyone seemingly likes to call me the REAL master user of minetest - and c55 is ther azbsolute opposite
16:52 * PilzAdam doesnt call you a master of Minetst :p
16:52 Jordach im more talking about the mc users
16:52 Jordach who converted
16:52 Jordach they go by post count
16:53 Jordach lok who sits at 2200+
16:53 PilzAdam you can impress n00bs very easy
16:53 Jordach s/lok/look
16:53 Jordach because i know how to do it and reproduce
16:54 PilzAdam 365, im working in 1000 but they are so far away :-(
16:54 PilzAdam maybe i have to answer every stupid question
16:54 Jordach if they ask the same thing that has been solved by me - i will post the solution.
16:55 Jordach link to post, that is
16:56 PilzAdam but it seems that every problem has been solved 100 times so i dont answer at all
16:56 Jordach exactly
16:56 Jordach i want to make a bug for noobs solution
16:57 Jordach OMFG
16:57 Jordach radio station has a hard dance remix of windows xp logon :D
16:57 PilzAdam :D
16:58 PilzAdam im more a mod developer than a n00b problem solver
16:59 PilzAdam so i have to develop more mods
16:59 Jordach no you dont
16:59 PilzAdam ?
16:59 Jordach my prototype noob modder needs the help
16:59 Jordach http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2861
17:00 PilzAdam okay you produce 1000 more problems because you dont post the direct download link... (thats my experience)
17:01 Jordach its unfinished
17:01 Jordach i believe i finished basic node adding
17:05 PilzAdam n00b modders often dont want just to add simple nodes, they want complex  mods like mesecons or something but they cant even add normal nodes. So your wrapper wont help much (IMO)
17:06 Jordach i will expand on the mod to support mesecons
17:07 PilzAdam i dont mean they want mesecons, i mean they want mods that are complex like mesecons
17:08 PilzAdam btw, http://minetest.net/forum/vi​ewtopic.php?pid=40424#p40424 in english its: "how do you make a mod?"
17:08 Jordach i can prove you wrong
17:08 Jordach wool.
17:08 Jordach every server i know.
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18:47 Jordach NakedFury; i now run a small server, wanna join?
18:48 Jordach (not pixel art; own home serv)
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22:32 PilzAdam Jordach, you were wrong with TNT+mesecons
22:33 Jordach gotta go

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