Time Nick Message 09:53 TenPlus1 Hi folks :) any server owners who use Minetest 5.7.0 ??? 09:54 MTDiscord Here! We're on 5.7.0 09:55 TenPlus1 hi bastrbun :) how's it running ? we're thinking of upgrading Xanadu from 5.4.6 09:57 MTDiscord I can't complain, worked smoothly for us. We have only minor changes to the engine and we upgraded from 5.6.1 09:58 TenPlus1 kewl, how long you been using it so far ? 09:58 MTDiscord We're using postgres as a backend, if that makes any difference 09:59 TenPlus1 we're still on sql :P we tried at one point to convert to mariadb and the map went weird 09:59 MTDiscord Migration was on 30.5.2023 09:59 MTDiscord mariadb? Is that not a PR pending? 10:00 TenPlus1 almost a month, nice :P thanks for the info dude, am always weary of moving up a version on server 10:01 TenPlus1 I try to make sure all my mods run on latest releases (5.8 dev so far, but build are currently broken) 10:01 MTDiscord We have a testserver where we look at every migration whether it works or not. If you map isn't entirely special, you may want to try that as well 10:02 TenPlus1 I have a local server to do all testing, and it all works well on 5.7, but... I still worry moving from 5.4.6 to 5.7 cause I can't go back with new map format 10:04 MTDiscord When we jumped map format, I remember we did some extensive testing, but without any negative finding 10:05 TenPlus1 That's good to hear :) I feel a little less nervous now 10:05 MTDiscord Ofc our case is only anecdotal, but so far I haven't heard of any issues 10:05 MTDiscord Noone can tell you "Will work 100%" 😛 10:06 TenPlus1 hehe true, I suppose any issues that crop up can be dealt with before long 10:06 TenPlus1 just gotta be sure to backup the 120gb map file first :) 10:06 MTDiscord Everyone who does a "can't go back" migration feels that, but noone can know for sure. Just keep a backup from right before in permanent storage 10:07 MTDiscord Ofc, on every migration like that I fear players whack away on the database for month, then we discover something which demands going back. Impossible to know in advance 10:07 TenPlus1 servers using 0.4.x have dropped to only 21, so will maybe start refactoring mods to remove backwards compatibilty 10:08 TenPlus1 yeah, we need a c++ tool or build-in tool to not only backup maps but somehow shrink them as well 10:09 MTDiscord I joined MT in the "last days of 0.4.x", so I had no history with it. I do not prepare any of my mods for anything other than 5.x 10:09 TenPlus1 that's a good thing, I still have users asking to support 0.4.16 for my main mods 10:12 MTDiscord Heh. That's a drawback of having a large audience, there are always some special cases. If I were you, I'd branch my mods into 0.4 stable and 5.x stable and only backport bugfixes. But meh, that's me. 10:12 TenPlus1 you're right, freeze current mods and only update with 5.x in mind, would save a lot of hassle :) 10:13 MTDiscord If you don't you'll never be able to utilize most modern MT api or have a Rattenschwanz of legacy cases 10:14 TenPlus1 for sure, so many new features and functions to put into good use, and of course the odd breakage with new versions :D hahaha 10:17 TenPlus1 thanks for chat bastrabun, gonna go make breakfast then tinker with some mods :) 10:17 MTDiscord Good luck 🙂