Time  Nick           Message
15:25 tenplus1       hi folks
15:25 tenplus1       hey Krock
15:25 tenplus1       devs, few times this error has crashed server and I cannot find rhyme or reason
15:25 Krock          hi tenplus1 :D
15:26 Krock          check entity life cycle
15:26 tenplus1       ERROR[Main]: ServerError: AsyncErr: ServerThread:: run Lua: Runtime error from mod 'stairs' in callback node_on_punch(): /user/share/minetest/builtin/game/falling.lua:311: attempt to index field 'sounds' (a function value)
15:27 tenplus1       line 311 is: if def and def.sounds and def.sounds.fall then
15:27 DS-minetest    you are doing something like local function sounds() end print(sounds.1)
15:27 tenplus1       looks fine, but why crash from stairs mod
15:28 tenplus1       hi DS-minetest, this is default game error for 5.2
15:28 DS-minetest    hi 11, what node sets a function as SimpleSoundSpec?
15:28 Krock          sounds = myapi.myfunction(),  <-- correct
15:28 Krock          sounds = myapi.myfunction,  <-- wrong
15:32 tenplus1       ds: no idea, never used it myself
15:33 nerzhul        hi tenplus1
15:33 tenplus1       hi nerzhul
15:33 tenplus1       it's a weird bug, trying to figure out what's causing it
15:33 DS-minetest    tenplus1: what I wanted to say is, print out the name of the node
15:34 DS-minetest    then look into the nodes definition, it probably does what Krock said
15:34 tenplus1       cannot, runnign on liver server using 5.2
15:35 DS-minetest    "liver server"? what's that?
15:35 tenplus1       *live
15:35 Krock          lol liver
15:35 Krock          you could add print statements before the said error line to figure out the node name
15:35 Krock          or item name
15:36 tenplus1       for builtin/game/falling.lua which is a system game file ?
15:36 Krock          add it to the code and you'll know it after 2 server crashes (1st regular, 2nd with info)
15:36 Krock          yes
15:36 tenplus1       server is in USA and I'm not, would be difficult to have admin do that
15:36 tenplus1       hi kilbith
15:36 Krock          huh? you don't have root access to the VPS?
15:36 tenplus1       nope
15:37 tenplus1       it's a physical server
15:37 Krock          uh well then we'll need some creativity
15:37 DS-minetest    do you have worldedit installed?
15:37 tenplus1       am checking any and all falling nodes standalone to see if anythinghappens
15:37 tenplus1       yes but not used
15:38 Krock          error in drop_attached_node, so we need to hook check_single_for_falling
15:38 Krock          writing a patch...
15:39 DS-minetest    ok, run in chat: "//lua for name, def in pairs(minetest.registered_nodes) do if type(def.sounds) == "function" then minetest.log("error", name .. " is evil") break end end"
15:40 tenplus1       that#s disabled
15:40 tenplus1       would never have left //lua command live on server
15:40 DS-minetest    but you need server priv to run /lua, it's not really harmful
15:40 tenplus1       true, lemmie do it standalone server, have copy here
15:41 DS-minetest    you could also add an additional mod that does the code above in a minetest.after in load
15:43 Krock          https://pastebin.com/raw/JbF7mQWT
15:43 Krock          oh. bottom one should be "name" rather than "n.name"
15:43 Krock          nvm, I messed up both parts
15:44 DS-minetest    you don't need the first part here btw. ;) :`what.sounds and type(what.sounds) == "function"`
15:44 DS-minetest    type function is always a true value
15:44 Krock          Ctrl+F5 the paste. new contents.
15:45 Krock          oh right!
15:46 DS-minetest    and as said, the alternative thing (same as what I suggested) needs to go into .after
15:46 tenplus1       running sa now
15:48 tenplus1       cottages:wagon_wheel ??? dammit
15:48 Krock          Sokomine: ^
15:48 DS-minetest    !mod cottages
15:48 MinetestBot    DS-minetest: cottages [cottages] (medieval, farming, country life) by Sokomine - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=5120 - https://github.com/Sokomine/cottages
15:49 rubenwardy     tenplus1: heads up, you should probably fix how mobs redo does initial properties: #9650
15:49 tenplus1       this node was placeable before 5.2, what gives now
15:49 ShadowBot      https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/9650 -- Log deprecation initial properties by rubenwardy
15:49 Krock          tenplus1: still placeable, but not fallable
15:50 DS-minetest    tenplus1: you need to update the mod
15:51 DS-minetest    bug was already fixed
15:51 tenplus1       swhat do you mean rubenwardy ?
15:51 tenplus1       hi aerozoic
15:52 rubenwardy     things like `hp_max` and `mesh` etc should be in a subtable called `initial_properties`, not in the entity definition
15:52 rubenwardy     see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L6525
15:52 aerozoic       wazup tenplus1 !
15:52 rubenwardy     the reason for a subtable is that it makes the definition cleaner, and more clear that the thing is an _initial_ property
15:52 rubenwardy     because people have mistakenly done   self.mesh = ""  before etc
15:54 tenplus1       will get around to that soon, gotta fix this dumb sound error
15:54 tenplus1       thanks for help tho :D
15:54 Krock          DS-minetest: next!
15:55 DS-minetest    !next
15:55 MinetestBot    Another satisfied customer. Next!
15:55 DS-minetest    :D
15:55 tenplus1       has the SAO issue been resolved ? nil values ?
15:56 Krock          yes
15:56 Krock          consistent nil values after deletion
15:57 Krock          no more buggy on-the-fly deletion
15:57 tenplus1       had to add so many sanity checks to mobs api cause of that one
15:58 Krock          that means you still call functions after the entity has been deleted within a parent function
15:58 Krock          look out for :remove() and :set_hp() to avoid most checks
15:59 tenplus1       so many changes of late with new stable, gonna have to sit down and rethink some stuffs
15:59 tenplus1       got line of sight working tho with raycasting :P happy at that
16:00 DS-minetest    does that mean objects also get removed, just like in :remove(), when they loose all hp by set_hp() ?
16:04 tenplus1       didnt that happen automatically anyway ?
16:06 tenplus1       that's why I had to make mobs {immortal} cause they would disappear before proper death functions
16:11 tenplus1       hi Gael-de-Sailly
16:11 Gael-de-Sailly hi
16:17 Gael-de-Sailly are the forums down or is it just me?
16:18 tenplus1       down here too
16:18 Krock          90% down, 10% up
16:18 Krock          depends on your luck whether you can get through
16:18 Krock          refresh more often = less chances
16:19 Gael-de-Sailly ok because today I haven't been able to make a post
16:19 Gael-de-Sailly every time I try, I can visit like 5 pages, but after it stops working
16:19 Krock          wasn't possible last week either
16:19 Gael-de-Sailly is it coincidence or the forum is preventing connection after a certain number of pages?
16:21 Krock          coincidence. the server might also block requests that happen proportionally often from a single IP
16:22 Krock          I'd assume the server is attacked from many different addresses
16:22 Krock          that, or the machine just sucks.
16:31 tenplus1       wb
16:45 tenplus1       laters all o/
22:37 kilbith        I don't know where Wuzzy find that strenght to argue that much