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01:04 ANAND sfan5: Sorry I couldn't reply, I dozed off. But the dark patch was just around 20x50x20 nodes in size, while the selected region passed to the various commands and API methods was as large as 220x140x200 nodes in size
01:07 ANAND Peppy: I thought /mapfix does exactly what the WE's //fixlight would do. But I'll try that out too, thanks for the suggestion
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07:25 ANAND /mapfix doesn't work either :(
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08:06 shivajiva fwiw it got worse after 0.4.15, you used to be able to fix it but it's got harder/impossible to remove some shadows, WE adds a repetitive shadow if you insert a flat plane, squares or diamonds depending on how you are looking at it, that must point to some mechanism due to the repetitive nature
08:08 shivajiva well actually MT adds the shadow, when WE inserts the nodes
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08:53 ANAND So there's no way to remove the shadows? :O
08:54 shivajiva I haven't found a way, let me know if you do
09:11 ANAND Will do
09:41 Peppy about mapfix : I sometimes have to use it quite some nodes above the shadowed area (say 20/30) , hope it helps...
09:43 shivajiva yea it's like your fixing removed nodes above that still cast shadows, doesn't always work though
09:44 Peppy I de-grief our map using WE a lot, so, I use mapfix a lot too
09:45 Peppy the only time shadows did remain, I had to use //fixlight
09:46 Peppy so, I guess they work a bit different
09:46 shivajiva I have the issue inside a huge cloud box where the shadows shouldn't penetrate, nothing I have tried will remove them, just one wall inside has the issue
09:50 Peppy I noticed yesterday that //set dirt on chest would end showing "Protected chest owned by .." on mouseover the dirt :(
09:50 shivajiva yep meta not cleared
09:50 Peppy this doesn't happen with the replacer tool or /deleteblocks
09:51 shivajiva pr for WE?
09:51 Peppy replacer tool is great for de-griefing, thanks Sokomine :)
09:52 shivajiva I may have a look at WE and submit a pr for that
09:52 shivajiva I'm familiar with the code
09:54 shivajiva might slow it down a touch though checking for it though
09:55 shivajiva ugh one to many 'though' lol
09:59 shivajiva WE isn't optimised, load and save are horrible, mts and a we file with meta nodes is far superior and massively smaller footprint
09:59 shivajiva I should know, I created code to do it that way
10:00 shivajiva half a million blocks in about a second
10:01 shivajiva used for saving and importing prebuilt subgames ;)
10:02 shivajiva makes it usable on a running server without causing huge lag
10:04 shivajiva I was waiting for some testing before release but the code is done
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10:06 shivajiva even comes with example subgames you can load and play immediately
10:11 shivajiva if anyone is up for testing it, let me know, I'll arrange for access
10:13 ANAND Peppy: Tried to /mapfix while standing 30 nodes above the dark region. Didn't work.
10:14 ANAND Neither did /mapfix 100
10:15 shivajiva as I said, doesn't always work *smirk*
10:16 ANAND I tried lighting up the whole region with mese lamps, so that the light values of all nodes are updated, but the darkness immediately returns upon destroying those lights
10:16 ANAND How does that even happen? o_O
10:17 shivajiva not sure but it's consistent with my experience also
10:18 ANAND The actual terrain doesn't have any lighting bugs
10:18 ANAND But if I place the schem to re-check if everything's alright, boom
10:19 ANAND I place schems at heights of y >= 5000 to prevent interaction with the generated world. Would that matter?
10:22 shivajiva what I have noticed is if you dig the nodes one by one it updates the lighting correctly in chunks where the issues show, it shouldn't matter if you place schems up there ANAND but clearly it does
10:23 sfan5 ANAND: yes that makes a difference, there is a shadow propagation limit
10:25 shivajiva how far do shadows propagate vertically downwards?
10:31 sfan5 that'a good question and I don't know
10:31 shivajiva shouldn't it be conical and taper out inverse squared?
10:38 ANAND Ah
10:39 ANAND sfan5: How would that affect the placed schem though?
10:39 ANAND There's nothing above the placed schem, and the rest of the world is 5000+ nodes below
10:39 sfan5 it wouldn't
10:40 ANAND Oh
10:41 ANAND I don't mind the schem's shadow not propagating downwards, that's not an issue
10:41 sfan5 shivajiva: I don't see an explicit limit here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/voxelalgorithms.cpp#L1222
10:41 sfan5 so maybe it's just as soon as it hits a non-generated block
10:43 sfan5 repair_block_light is the function called through the vmanip:fix_light() Lua api
10:53 shivajiva so it's a step propagation based on light spread to produce the cone of shadow, makes sense, attending to light creates the shadow boundary in the process
10:59 sfan5 I don't think it attempts to produce a cone, it just goes straight down
10:59 sfan5 or hmm
13:04 VanessaE just reminding:  if anyone has $ to spare, I've had to take out another round of funding...  please help:  https://www.gofundme.com/f/5pqdb-help-me-move
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13:56 tumeninodes ANAND: have you tried using WE to fill around the shadowed area, and then us it to remove the cluster again? I have had a similar issue before but not so large, and found if I play around with the area, filling it with nodes and removing them again, it fixes most of it.
13:57 tumeninodes Large operations with WE seems to throw the lighting system into shock sometimes xD
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14:10 tumeninodes Ahhhh, Nathan... just the person I was looking for to abduct to fix a couple models for me with your precise Blender skillz :D
14:10 rubenwardy hey NathanS21
14:12 * tumeninodes is concerned that rubenwardy never seems to sleep
14:12 rubenwardy lol
14:12 rubenwardy my waking hours are typically 11am - 3am
14:12 VanessaE sleep?  what's that?
14:12 ANAND I too share your concern :D
14:12 rubenwardy this morning I woke up at 9am
14:12 tumeninodes actually, I suspect cloning is involved
14:13 ANAND Whoa, really?! That's so early!
14:13 VanessaE waking at 9am ...barbaric.
14:13 tumeninodes haha
14:13 tumeninodes It's slavery
14:13 rubenwardy ikr
14:13 rubenwardy crazy
14:13 VanessaE <mumble> I woke up at 6 </mumble>
14:14 NathanS21 hello rubewardy
14:14 tumeninodes I dozed around 3:30am / woke at 5:30 (a good wee hours of the morning nap)
14:14 NathanS21 Tumeninodes if you need models let me know!
14:15 tumeninodes Actually, I need help just tweaking a couple models (and thank you.... again)
14:15 ANAND VanessaE: 6 PM is the perfect time to start the day ;)
14:15 tumeninodes I suck at the whole "precision" thing... it;s over rated
14:15 VanessaE Yeah, if you mean PST while living in EST. :)
14:15 ANAND lol :P
14:15 tumeninodes ^true
14:16 tumeninodes Try living in the Boston area
14:16 tumeninodes surrounded by Massholes
14:16 VanessaE heh
14:16 ANAND ha, I see what you did there
14:16 ANAND :P
14:17 ANAND tumeninodes: Btw, I used WE to place a schem of a cube of terrain (which I copied from the same world)
14:17 ANAND The original terrain is unaffected, but the placed schem has a lighting bug right at the middle
14:17 tumeninodes Nathan, my new 3 node tall arch doors a a hair too high and my angled doors are wonky when opened
14:18 tumeninodes I wonder if WE copies the light data from a specific instance?
14:19 tumeninodes and placing some nodes all around that area and removing them does not work?
14:19 NathanS21 Sounds like a collision box issue on that.
14:20 NathanS21 code on github?
14:20 tumeninodes yes https://github.com/TumeniNodes/pkarcs
14:21 tumeninodes the models are just a smidge too high... and I cant seem to get them exactly right using increments (cus I suck at that)
14:21 NathanS21 cool, cool. I'll take a look at it.
14:21 NathanS21 which folder are the problematic files in?
14:22 tumeninodes thank you very much :) The angled doors are off axis from bottom to top as well https://github.com/TumeniNodes/angledwalls
14:22 tumeninodes https://github.com/TumeniNodes/pkarcs/tree/master/pkarcs_doors3
14:22 NathanS21 alright.
14:41 tumeninodes afk momentarily
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16:12 tenplus1 hi folks
16:13 tenplus1 how's all :)
16:15 IcyDiamond Hi
16:15 tenplus1 hey Icy :)
16:15 tenplus1 what's new with you dude
16:15 VanessaE hey tenplus1
16:15 shivajiva Hello tenplus ;)
16:15 tenplus1 hi vanessa, hey shiva :P
16:17 shivajiva how's it hanging, think I'll call ya tenplusYin
16:18 tenplus1 hehe, am ok, been super busy lately
16:18 tenplus1 you ?
16:19 shivajiva just moseying along, not too busy but it's rolling :)
16:19 tenplus1 rollin' is good :P
16:19 tenplus1 how about you vanessa ?
16:20 VanessaE meh.
16:20 * tenplus1 hands vanessa a bottle of irn bru and a special fish with chips
16:20 shivajiva it's a hard slog to get it to the top and watch it roll back round the hill to the bottom xD
16:20 VanessaE yummy
16:21 tenplus1 ahh, the one step forward two steps back kinda thing
16:21 VanessaE you cheapskates need to donate to my moving fund, then I'll be in better spirits :)
16:21 tenplus1 moving fund ?
16:22 shivajiva nope, just there's always another one to roll up the hill lol
16:22 VanessaE tenplus1: <spam>  https://www.gofundme.com/f/5pqdb-help-me-move   I take Paypal too: vanessa.e.dannenberg@gmail.com </spam>
16:22 * tenplus1 renames shiva to Sisyphus
16:22 shivajiva see now you're on it :D
16:23 shivajiva Vanessa I'd love to help but circumstances don't allow it :/
16:23 tumeninodes ahhh... the mythical, tenplus1
16:24 tumeninodes :)
16:24 VanessaE shivajiva: I understand.  At least pass it around.
16:24 shivajiva okies :)
16:28 VanessaE tumeninodes: *poke* *passes hat*
16:28 tumeninodes I know my dear... but all I have right now is lint :(
16:29 VanessaE bummer
16:29 tenplus1 hi tumeni
16:29 VanessaE well pass the links arounf
16:29 tumeninodes It's pretty though
16:29 tumeninodes Hi ten
16:30 tumeninodes I'm still fighting with that ins co
16:30 tenplus1 oof, hope things work themselves out ok
16:30 tumeninodes I may be able to throw something your way, but I fear it will be very minor donation
16:31 tumeninodes ha, seems we're all in a pickle lately
16:31 VanessaE anything helps, just don't put yourself in jeopardy
16:31 tumeninodes I'm a self preservationist... no worry about that LD
16:31 tumeninodes :D
16:31 tumeninodes women and children first is just a song to me
16:32 VanessaE heh
16:32 * tenplus1 prefers Abba
16:32 tenplus1 :P
16:32 * tumeninodes loves ABBA
16:32 VanessaE 👍
16:32 tenplus1 wait, what happened to their latest tour and the four new songs ?!?!?!
16:33 VanessaE wait, new tour??
16:33 VanessaE I thought they broke up in the early 80's?
16:33 tenplus1 I heard they were doing one last tour and introducing some new songs, this was last year
16:33 tumeninodes Did it even happen? I do not believe the US was on their agenda... bastages
16:33 tenplus1 quick... to the bat computer
16:34 VanessaE well ticketmaster shows a tour running now
16:34 VanessaE but it's probably not the real group
16:34 tenplus1 yay, it IS happening
16:34 tenplus1 aw
16:35 tumeninodes https://tickets.phoenixsymphony.org/single/PSDetail.aspx?psn=11748&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjw5MLrBRClARIsAPG0WGzScTwsD-Bhn2dasc3UCIBAUn80ELKeMzcCdpKOTe5xBti7Jcd0BzoaAqv2EALw_wcB
16:35 tumeninodes !title
16:35 MinetestBot urllib.error.URLError: <urlopen error [SSL: CERTIFICATE_VERIFY_FAILED] certificate verify failed (_ssl.c:852)> (file "/usr/lib/python3.6/urllib/request.py", line 1320, in do_open)
16:35 VanessaE https://www.ticketmaster.com/abba-the-concert-tickets/artist/1469412
16:35 tumeninodes wtf?
16:35 tumeninodes that... is NOT ABBA
16:35 VanessaE yeah, didn't think so
16:35 tumeninodes who are these imposters? 0_o
16:36 tumeninodes http://www.abbatheconcert.com/
16:38 tenplus1 crap
16:38 tumeninodes OMG!!!! A disco cruise!! 00 https://ultimatediscocruise.com/abbathec
16:39 tenplus1 :P
16:39 tumeninodes I have to iron my lapels!
16:40 tenplus1 you got a pair of platform shoes >?
16:40 tumeninodes probably.... (sadly)
16:40 tenplus1 lol
16:40 tenplus1 my dad had a pair of those, 4 inches high and almost broke his ankle :)
16:41 tumeninodes hahaha
16:41 tumeninodes I definitely stillhave a pair of my bell bottom jeans somewhere in the house from like 1978
16:42 * tenplus1 still wears boot style jeans even today :P
16:42 tumeninodes iron on patches all over
16:42 tenplus1 soooo comfy
16:42 tumeninodes 'specially with boots
16:43 tenplus1 ooh, I tinkered earlier and updated mobs redo, mobs_sky and mobs_water with some changes if anyone uses them
16:43 tumeninodes I like them because I'm 6'... boots makes me 6'2" ;)
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16:43 tenplus1 wb nri
16:43 shivajiva smh and re-reads the chat laughing
16:43 tenplus1 wow, any higher tumeni and you'll be headbutting the ceiling
16:44 tumeninodes nah... my oldest sone is about 6' 4"
16:44 tumeninodes -e
16:45 * tenplus1 is 3'2 and really a gelfling
16:45 tumeninodes :D
16:45 VanessaE 6' even here, also
16:46 tumeninodes yeah but with heels 6' 7" +
16:46 VanessaE not THAT bad.
16:46 VanessaE more like 6'3" give or take a bit
16:46 tumeninodes had a gf years ago who was 5' 11" with heels she was taller than me
16:47 tenplus1 ehehe
16:47 tenplus1 anyone seen the new Dark Crystal series ?
16:47 tumeninodes really? link please
16:48 tumeninodes oh and, has anyone seen the new buffalo?
16:48 tenplus1 it's on Netflix :) looks just like original movie and is prequel
16:48 tenplus1 what's buffalo ?
16:48 tumeninodes https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=356237#p356237
16:49 tumeninodes I have to check that out... I loved the Dark Crystal... creepy as it was
16:49 tenplus1 ooh nice, new mobs are always welcome :)
16:49 * tenplus1 spent a night in a real teepee once, was amazing
16:49 tumeninodes hopefully they actually release all that stuff
16:50 * tumeninodes is 1/4 Cree and has never spent time in a teepee...
16:50 tumeninodes but has been in a sweat lodge a few times
16:50 tenplus1 sweat lodge sounds relaxing :)
16:50 tumeninodes yes...
16:50 tumeninodes and no
16:50 tumeninodes :D
16:51 tenplus1 lol, could build one on server and have players come out 3/4 the size :P would be funny
16:51 tumeninodes picture a very small confined area... very hot and extremely humid... sitting among a couple elders who keep farting
16:52 * Peppy would love to see teepees in Minetest
16:52 * shivajiva says meh to film & tv media, it's got old like me, we need implantables, so we can be told what to think :P
16:52 tenplus1 hi peppy, and yeah, that would be awesome...
16:52 tenplus1 lol shiva, isnt facebook looking into that already
16:52 tumeninodes shivajive: that's what the news is for
16:53 shivajiva enhancements, then they can be reqd for certain jobs...see where I'm going lmao
16:53 tumeninodes 00
16:54 tumeninodes where ever you're going... if you pass a store can you grab me some cheese puffs?
16:54 tenplus1 sounds scarey... bad enough china has the social point system in place (a-la blackmirror)
16:55 tumeninodes The US could use a social points system
16:55 tumeninodes would sure thin out the population a bit
16:55 * tumeninodes starts counting # of lines of OT
16:56 shivajiva if media is the conditioner, you'll find it's conditioned us for that reality
16:56 * tenplus1 is so glad he has no tv
16:56 tumeninodes which is I avoid media... and society in general
16:56 tumeninodes +why
16:57 tenplus1 it's weird but I hear ya, being a recluse can be good at times :)
16:57 shivajiva you are not the target, our children are :)
16:58 * rubenwardy is making cheesecake
16:58 tumeninodes good luck getting anything through to my kids :D
16:58 tenplus1 hey ruben, need any help ?
16:58 tumeninodes I'll help! (grabs a fork)
16:58 tenplus1 lolol
16:58 tenplus1 oh man, the cheesecake (and carrot cake) from costco rocks!
16:59 rubenwardy my blender is broken and I don't have a rolling pin, so I just used a wine bottle and baking paper to make biscuit crumbs instead
16:59 rubenwardy good start
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16:59 tenplus1 hi T4im
17:00 tenplus1 overcome and adapt Ruben :P
17:00 tumeninodes costco is in Britain? 0_o greedy buggers
17:00 tenplus1 ehehehe, I only go there for tp :P is way cheaper, but sometimes, just sometimes... cake!
17:00 tumeninodes what he failed to mention... is he had to drink the wine first
17:00 rubenwardy homemade cheesecake is so much better
17:00 rubenwardy I don't drink wine
17:00 rubenwardy it's one of my flatmates cooking wine
17:00 tenplus1 yeah, and drunken cheesecake is a surprise when it sets and you sober up to eat it
17:01 rubenwardy the wine adds weight
17:01 VanessaE drunken cheesecake? O_o
17:01 rubenwardy I'm making it in tupperwear, and I'll freeze most of it
17:01 tumeninodes ohhhhh so thats why everyone falls down when they drink it
17:01 tenplus1 I use to make a kick ass Rum Cake with crystal sugar topping...
17:01 shivajiva maximise plastic molecules in it, good idea!
17:02 tumeninodes Rum Cake! = Yum
17:02 tenplus1 lol tumeni, I read that as  Rum Cake != yum... ahahahaha, lua kicked in for a sec
17:03 tumeninodes haha
17:03 tenplus1 oh man, I feel such a nerd
17:03 tumeninodes can be rum cake... or rum & cake... all the same
17:03 tumeninodes or just rum...
17:03 tenplus1 lol yeah...
17:03 tenplus1 I saw the new bee's for minecraft, they look cute
17:04 tumeninodes some think they stole them from MTG
17:04 tumeninodes unlikely
17:04 tenplus1 bees and hives are pretty good but not as cute :P mc kinda simplified things a lot
17:05 tumeninodes wth is up with Hytale? Is it just a bunch of Hyhype?
17:05 tenplus1 mojangg did say they are decoding their code so that programmers can mod the game more easily and understand what's going on...
17:05 tenplus1 am looking forward to this so I can figure out how mobs work and make mobs redo better :P
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17:05 tumeninodes that would be nice... I'd sure like to know whats going on for once
17:06 tenplus1 yeah, reading the code just now is like a cryptic clue
17:06 tumeninodes man... looking back at the log... when paramat comes by he's gonna have a seizure
17:07 tumeninodes but... are they gonna charge for access to that decoded code ?
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17:08 tenplus1 hi Krock
17:08 tumeninodes hide the rum!!!
17:08 Krock hi tenplus1
17:08 Krock WOOOOSH
17:08 Krock why's the rum gone?
17:08 tumeninodes it's always gone
17:09 tenplus1 *hic*
17:09 tenplus1 wut ?
17:09 tumeninodes 00
17:09 Krock aagh I was late again
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17:09 Krock no idea why. tumeninodes' message appeared like 5 secs later
17:09 tumeninodes rubenwardy has cooking wine
17:09 tenplus1 krock has lag irl
17:10 Krock yeah.. startup lag I guess
17:10 tumeninodes joke lag
17:10 rubenwardy I also have cooking wine, but not the bottle I use
17:10 rubenwardy +d
17:10 Krock you're implying my connection is drunk?
17:10 tumeninodes just sayin
17:10 tumeninodes and IRC has no sense of humor
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17:11 tenplus1 hi DS-minetest :P
17:11 DS-minetest huhu o/
17:11 Krock protocols don't have any humor
17:11 tumeninodes there's not gonna be enough of this cake to get a buzz from with all these people showing up :(
17:11 DS-minetest why the ":P"?
17:12 * tenplus1 quickly knocks up some rum cake
17:12 tumeninodes he's tipsy
17:12 tumeninodes been doing :P for the past 20 minutes
17:12 Krock hi
17:12 tumeninodes it's just ten's rumface
17:12 tenplus1 that's not far off the truth tumeni
17:13 tumeninodes ;)
17:13 DS-minetest but tenplus1 is 11
17:13 tenplus1 unless I'm going to a party, then I'm 10 and my partner for the evening is my +1
17:13 tumeninodes international alcohol laws
17:14 tumeninodes wow... that was smooooth
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17:14 tenplus1 hey aerozoic
17:14 tumeninodes gahd dangit...
17:14 aerozoic wazup tenplus1 :)
17:15 * tumeninodes grabs another cake and just pours rum on it
17:15 tenplus1 lol
17:15 tumeninodes it works
17:15 DS-minetest wet cake
17:15 tenplus1 nothing much aerozoic, how';s ytou ?
17:16 tumeninodes by the 2d piece you won;t even notice
17:16 rubenwardy this is a really nice cup of tea
17:16 aerozoic i'm doing fine
17:16 * tumeninodes pours rum into rubenwardy's tea
17:16 tumeninodes ... and then on rubenwardy
17:16 tumeninodes rumwardy
17:16 rubenwardy oh la la
17:17 tenplus1 rum shower
17:17 DS-minetest *wine mixed with rum*
17:17 tumeninodes rum wrestling
17:18 tumeninodes wine mod could use some rum
17:18 tenplus1 what's rum made form ?
17:18 tenplus1 can always add
17:18 DS-minetest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rum
17:19 tenplus1 ooh ooh, we have player set velocity, can finally add staggering :DD
17:19 tumeninodes DS-minetest, now that's just weird (pours rum on tenplus1)
17:19 Krock wine calc.exe
17:19 tenplus1 sugarcane, noice... shame we cook it already to give suger
17:20 tumeninodes increased lag can give a drunk/drugged effect
17:20 tenplus1 lol krock :P just got that
17:21 tenplus1 I do like Proton in Steam, can run sooooooo many windows games on linux
17:22 tumeninodes https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton
17:22 DS-minetest so, can we make rum out of papyrus?
17:23 tumeninodes sure would be fun to try
17:23 tenplus1 why not :) if anyone can make a rum texture I'll add :D
17:23 tumeninodes ... or deadly... you go first
17:23 tumeninodes challenge accepted
17:24 tenplus1 the wine mod already has 6 or so drinks which are fun
17:24 tumeninodes blueberry wine
17:25 tumeninodes https://homebrewanswers.com/blueberry-wine-recipe/
17:25 DS-minetest so, make some rummy thing out of papyrus and if the player drinks it, they die (such a fool, thinks one could use papyrus as sugar cane). => suicide drink
17:25 tenplus1 I should redo the wine barrel to hold an amount of fermented fluid and you add a glass to take it out 1 cup at a time :P
17:26 tenplus1 lol ds, farming redo cooks papyrus to make sugar (I pretend it's sugar cane)
17:26 tenplus1 maybe I could add actual sugarcane
17:26 tumeninodes so... wy not just add... sugarcane?
17:26 tumeninodes woops, nvm
17:26 tenplus1 ehehe
17:26 DS-minetest why not add sugar beet?
17:26 tenplus1 ooh, googling
17:27 tumeninodes where will it grow jungle, savannah?
17:27 tenplus1 grows anywhere according to wiki
17:27 tumeninodes actually tenplus1... sfan5 was wondering a while back about making grow times differ between biomes
17:28 tumeninodes you'd probably be best to tackle that
17:28 DS-minetest and what if the biome was terraformed?
17:29 tumeninodes ummmm
17:29 tumeninodes terratimed?
17:29 tumeninodes xD
17:29 DS-minetest sugar cane grows in subtropical and tropical climate - german wikipedia
17:29 tenplus1 was thinking of having different light levels and surrounding water affect growth
17:30 tumeninodes there are other factors... like tempurature
17:30 DS-minetest and soil quality
17:30 tumeninodes did I just spell that wrong? 0_o
17:30 DS-minetest yep
17:30 tumeninodes yes.. that too
17:30 tenplus1 very true... 5.0 has get_temp and get_humidity and get_biome so it can all be looked at
17:31 tumeninodes +1
17:31 tenplus1 currently farming redo has a custom growth function that can be used per crop (I use for cocoa) to do custom checks for biome etc
17:31 * DS-minetest remembers having seen crazy temperatures at F5 info
17:31 tumeninodes ... showoff
17:32 tenplus1 https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/farming/src/master/crops/cocoa.lua#L156
17:32 tumeninodes (spelling temperature correctly)
17:32 tenplus1 lol, I like adding functions it seems :)
17:32 tenplus1 the builtin_item has one also for special functions, and also falling_nodes
17:35 tumeninodes need to step out... bbl \o
17:35 tenplus1 o//
17:36 tenplus1 oh wait, is wuzzy's dropped item being forced out of solid node pull gonna get added ?
17:37 sfan5 > sfan5 was wondering a while back about making grow times differ between biomes
17:37 sfan5 well it doesn't literally need to be the biome
17:37 tenplus1 hey sfan5
17:37 sfan5 but e.g. having crops grow slower on less suitable farming ground
17:38 DS-minetest i think, sfan5's adoption of the PR is merged
17:38 tenplus1 checking temp/humidity would help in that case but a terraformed biome would give weird results as mentioned
17:40 sfan5 terraforming a place does not change its climate in real life either
17:40 tenplus1 oh yeah, so it is :) am gonna have to add it to builtin_item mod at some point, the routine I'm using is too simple and not as effective :PPP
17:42 tenplus1 that's true sfan, so heat and humidity as well as light levels would make for ideal growth checks, and wiki can supply the min/max levels for each to make things a little more realistic :)
17:42 DS-minetest terraforming wasn't yet done in a big enough scale in real life yet
17:43 tenplus1 laters folks :) thanks for the chat o/
17:44 DS-minetest bye 11
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17:44 Krock depending on how much CO2 and heat you emit, the climate might change a bit
17:45 Krock but in general, not in particular for that region
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18:33 BuckarooBanzai Mapgen gone wrong: https://i.imgur.com/AymlOdT.png
18:34 Krock looks right to me
18:35 Krock now flip that onto the X/Z axis rather than Y upwards
18:36 Krock the X/Z perlin indexing went wrong there as well, since the pattern is non-continuous over multiple mapblocks
18:37 Krock note that 2D maps use X and Y, nor X and Z
18:37 Krock *not
18:38 BuckarooBanzai yeah, i know my mapgen-fu, just aligned the 2D-perlin to the wrong axis :/
18:41 Krock rubenwardy: colors are stripped from signatures? works fine here, so it must be more recent than a year?
18:48 BuckarooBanzai Krock: much better: https://i.imgur.com/oCXc8rQ.png :D
18:50 Krock yet another episode of Unsolved Mysteries Of Plants Growing In Weird Places
18:50 Krock I thought dirt was unstable, unsuitable to stick on the top?
18:56 BuckarooBanzai ehrm.... how about "magic" :)
18:56 BuckarooBanzai no, i was too lazy to check for air beneath the dirt nodes, maybe i'll add that some other time...
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19:53 VanessaE um, wut?  https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/p5Nf6zcBBh/
19:53 VanessaE wtf does that mean in English? :)
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19:56 rubenwardy It crashed when trying to send a packet
19:57 BuckarooBanzai0 VanessaE: latest master?
19:57 VanessaE nah, not "latest".  it's at commit 95a37efc (June 15) at the moment
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19:58 BuckarooBanzai0 oh, ok. there were a few network refactoring commits in the last weeks...
20:02 VanessaE I can't say I've seen it crash that way before; usually an engine crash - when they happen, which isn't too often - just ends up as an "unexplained" segfault on mine.
20:05 Krock backtrace
20:12 BuckarooBanzai0 VanessaE: hehe, i get those segfaults too once or twice a week. Pretty useful to get updates into the server ;)
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