Time  Nick        Message
10:53 IhrFussel   Could the juaJIT segfaults have been caused by using modstorage:set_string() inside on_joinplayer() perhaps? So far they didn't happen anymore after I removed that call from there
10:54 IhrFussel   But too early to tell I guess
11:15 IhrFussel   luaJIT*
11:17 IhrFussel   No wonder my server lagged from u_skins because the skin list file has over 50,000 players stored EXCLUDING the default skin which I don't save in the file at all...it is only present in memory..holy cow
11:17 rubenwardy  should use player meta
11:20 IhrFussel   u_skins hasn't been touched in over 3 years...when I started with my server it was still pretty recent
11:22 IhrFussel   I'm not sure if it's as easy as simply replacing these 2 functions https://github.com/dmonty2/minetest-u_skinsdb/blob/master/u_skins/players.lua
12:52 Fixer       sex related spammer, please ban asap https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=25013
15:14 rdococ      how should I handle a rope or string entity that connects two entities?
15:58 Sokomine    do we have such a thing? ropes are pretty rare. sometimes only an end node can be digged
16:35 tenplus1    hi folks :)
16:38 Lone_Wolf   Heya
16:38 tenplus1    hi wolfie
16:39 tenplus1    hrm, the latest dev builds are being build with no diff logs... now I dunno what's changed
16:42 tenplus1    hi Krock
16:42 Krock       hi tenplus1
16:42 tenplus1    :P hows things
16:42 Krock       uh, did not expect ya here
16:43 Krock       early weekend feels. so great.
16:43 tenplus1    *no one expects the spanish inquisition*
16:43 tenplus1    nice, long weekends are good
16:43 Krock       and the kind testers confirmed my PR to be working as expected. can't be better than that
16:43 Krock       weekend starts on Friday evening
16:43 tenplus1    the latest dev builds dont have diff files, cant see what was changed or added
16:43 tenplus1    what pr did you add ?
16:45 Krock       what diff files? git log.
16:45 Krock       this pr: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/8701
16:45 tenplus1    usually when I go here: https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds/+packages
16:46 tenplus1    I can check available diffs for a build and see what was changed...
16:46 Krock       nice. only 2% of the builds failed. that are good stats
16:46 tenplus1    ooh sweet, your attachment fix :) nice one dude
16:47 Krock       you can also do that using git diff, but requires a local clone
16:47 tenplus1    yeah, but I do enjoy reading them...  last 4 builds didn't have them... am sad :(
16:47 tenplus1    lol
16:51 Sokomine    er. hm. "unable to grab mouse" says import...i used to extract relevant parts of screenshots by displaying the picture and then using import on another shell. any way around that?
16:51 tenplus1    hi Sokomine
16:51 Sokomine    hi ten
16:52 Krock       hi Sokomine
16:52 Krock       I understood by 2% what your problem is (sorry)
16:54 tenplus1    Sokomine: can you rephrase the problem
16:55 Krock       "import" seems to use AI to chop the image, but soko cannot grab the mouse
16:56 Sokomine    tenplus1: got a screenshot. want only the relevant part of it. how can i do it?
16:56 Krock       apt install arms hands && arm grab mouse
16:56 Krock       gimp it
16:56 tenplus1    what Os ? if windows then programs to do that or cut n paste in paint
16:56 Sokomine    Krock: yes, that's right. seems xzgv got a menu on rightclick. perhaps that's making things diffrently
16:56 Sokomine    buuh! gimp is such a huge program
16:56 tenplus1    if linux scrot and other screen grabs have area select
16:56 Krock       Alt+PrintScreen also only copies the active window
16:57 Sokomine    linux
16:57 Krock       gimp may be big but it's powerful. worth its storage consumption
16:57 tenplus1    yeah, print screen grabs whole screen, alt+print active window
16:58 Sokomine    me and gimp are not exactly friends. for some odd reasons i can draw with pencils and the like - but not with computer programs
16:58 Sokomine    (besides, it's still too hot here)
16:59 tenplus1    lol, same here
16:59 Krock       sorry what it's only 31°C
17:00 tenplus1    was 31c here on wed... too damn hot
17:00 * tenplus1  melts easily
17:01 * Sokomine  nods and melts as well
17:02 Krock       Chocolate soup, anyone? Fresh. Warm.
17:02 * Lone_Wolf uses Flameshot for screenshots
17:02 Krock       ANAND: that's because getArmorGroups is not () const
17:02 tenplus1    lol, no thx :P
17:02 Lone_Wolf   Linux only IIRC. But it's a great program
17:03 ANAND       Krock: Yes, but why did this not throw this error before?
17:03 Krock       change that and it'll be fixed. don't forget its parent/inherited class where the declaration might originate
17:03 tenplus1    o/ anand
17:03 Krock       ANAND: see diff. m_armor_groups was used directly
17:03 ANAND       Oh ok
17:03 ANAND       So I should also make getArmorGroups a const method?
17:04 ANAND       Hi tenplus1 :)
17:04 Krock       yes
17:04 ANAND       okie
17:04 Krock       it's a getter method after all
17:05 ANAND       Krock: Btw, your thoughts regarding https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/7557#issuecomment-514898532?
17:05 Krock       I don't think that's needed. The impact is only visual
17:06 ANAND       But a mod might depend on it working
17:06 tenplus1    ?!?! what's with the device verification code when signing into github ?
17:06 ANAND       Yea, it's annoying
17:06 Krock       usually the bump happened where existing network packets changed
17:07 Krock       or to provide backwards compat
17:07 Krock       so your point here would be for mods to check the protocol version in order to grant a temporary zoom property/privilege?
17:08 ANAND       Something like that, yes
17:08 Krock       tenplus1: happens when you've set up 2FA
17:08 Krock       but that's still optional
17:08 ANAND       Not necessarily
17:08 ANAND       I get that regardless of 2FA
17:09 tenplus1    I dont have 2fa though, never set that up
17:10 ANAND       My rationale is that the mod would expect the player's FOV to be modified, after calling set_fov. If a client isn't aware of this, then the mod is basically broken
17:10 Krock       oof. >140 PRs again
17:11 ANAND       A more suitable example would be gun scopes
17:11 Krock       so return error values in these functions. bump the protocol version.
17:12 ANAND       Aye, cap'n O7
17:14 tenplus1    it's a good idea :P
17:17 Sokomine    found a way. ff still cooperates with import from imagemagic
17:17 tenplus1    yay
17:18 * tenplus1  is still getting use to raycasting, not working as I hoped :P
17:20 Krock       tenplus1: example: https://github.com/SmallJoker/farbows/blob/master/init.lua#L126
17:20 tenplus1    hi aerozoic
17:21 Krock       it's not too complicated. ensure you're casting into the right direction
17:21 aerozoic    wazup tenplus1 !
17:21 tenplus1    this is what we're using in mobs redo api, but it breaks melee attacks in mobs https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/mobs_redo/src/master/api.lua#L451
17:25 ANAND       Krock: Incrementing LATEST_PROTOCOL_VERSION would suffice, right?
17:26 Krock       that and please also extend the comment section above
17:27 ANAND       Alright, will do
17:27 Krock       that line 218 and 219. After all these years and many tries to make the formspecs better this constant hasn't chanced since ever
17:28 Krock       is probably the most backwards-compatibly we've got in Minetest aside from minetest.env: garbage
17:28 ANAND       lol :P
17:29 rubenwardy  Krock: formspec versions can't be implemented because mods can't actually specify i
17:29 rubenwardy  *it
17:29 rubenwardy  it makes no sense for the server to increment it
17:30 Krock       it can be moved, though
17:30 Krock       removed from the engine. added if it's not provided by mods
17:30 ANAND       Hm, I was wondering how FORMSPEC_VERSION worked
17:30 ANAND       FORMSPEC_API_VERSION*
17:30 Krock       it's ignoring all arguments passed to formspec elements which were provided additionally
17:31 Krock       i.e. assumes the mods to send formspecs in a backwards-compatible manner
17:31 ANAND       Ah
17:31 ANAND       I've made getArmorGroups const, btw. Didn't get any errors, as expected.
17:32 ANAND       And.. bumped protocol version in the latter
17:37 Krock       nice mod Sokomine :D
17:37 Krock       does it originate from paramat's pools?
17:37 Krock       or did you program it from scratch?
17:39 Krock       looks very complicated :(
17:40 tenplus1    link?
17:45 Krock       https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=22919
17:47 tenplus1    looks great, code seems intensive
17:49 tenplus1    lot of set_node's that I would change to swap_node to be faster
17:52 Krock       or vmanip
17:52 tenplus1    yup yup :)
18:10 tenplus1    laters all
18:47 Sokomine    krock: paramats mod was the inspiration, but the algorithm is completely diffrent. it's based on a discussion on the forum
18:49 Sokomine    there aren't that many set_nodes. each surface node of the future lake is set to river_water. the ground is set to clay. trees are removed. bushes use place_schematic. i'm not certain if using voxelmanip would be faster