Time Nick Message 10:24 tenplus1 hi folks 10:25 VanessaE hi 10:25 tenplus1 hi Vanessa, how's things ? 10:25 ANAND Hiya tenplus1 and VanessaE :) 10:25 VanessaE eh. 10:25 tenplus1 hey ANAND, long time no see :) 10:26 ANAND Likewise! I was on a month-long hiatus and returned only recently. 10:26 tenplus1 kinda same here, was sick for a while 10:29 tenplus1 preparing for supposed heatwave here today :) 10:31 luk3yx I have probably found a vulnerability in mod security (not in the system itself, in the way most mods handle it) 10:31 tenplus1 hi luk3yx, what did ya find ? 10:32 luk3yx Are there any evil mod developers here? 11:06 tenplus1 lol @ evil mod devs 11:06 tenplus1 hi fixer 11:18 Amaz Any one got any ideas about this? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8706 11:19 tenplus1 hi amaz, strange issue 11:19 Amaz Hi ten, yeah, I know 11:20 Amaz I tried fixing it in the texture, but no luck there. 11:20 tenplus1 testing now 11:35 tenplus1 very strange indeed, compared them to the old 2d torches that used same technique, those work, but nodeboxes dont ?!?! 11:36 Amaz Yup. My guess is that the old torches just uses one texture, while these ones use 3, which messes it up. Maybe :P 11:36 tenplus1 the wall texture should work, everything is in the right places, just seems to use a top down one instead for the sides... that's the weird thing 11:37 tenplus1 tiles are all in the right places 11:38 Amaz And my other theory is that before, texture top was always, well, on the top, whereas now, texture top is not the actual top, but goes with whatever direction the top of the node when it's place on the ground is... if that makes sense. 11:39 tenplus1 am looking at signs, those use same theory for placement ... 11:39 tenplus1 https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/83fb6fe872dc630fc229962461492f67b2f001d2/mods/default/nodes.lua#L2537 11:39 Amaz So the part of the torch which is the top when torch on the ground, always uses the top texture, even if it points to the side. 11:40 Amaz Yeah 11:40 Amaz Same thing in LOTT, but they work fine 11:40 Amaz (But all of those thoughts are just guesses, I've not really got a clue about how any of this works :)) 11:42 tenplus1 nodeboxes have changed since0.4.17... can no longer use visual_scale on them, and now I'm wondering if wallmounted nodes have issues as well 12:24 xerox123_ does the copy/paste issue exist in the ppa version? 12:24 xerox123_ or only in compiled builds? 12:25 tenplus1 hi xerox, what copy/paste issue ? I cant do that in mt for linux 12:25 xerox123_ pasting copied text into MT is super unpredictable 12:25 tenplus1 ahh, I've never been able to do that at all :P 12:26 xerox123_ sometimes you paste once, and the previous clipboard content appears, then you paste again and the present content appears 12:26 xerox123_ other times you get nothing 12:27 xerox123_ i just want to be able to copy andpaste from my password manager :p 12:28 tenplus1 just tried there with latest dev... doesnt work :( buuuu 12:31 Amaz Strange, copy/paste works fine for me.. 12:32 tenplus1 windows or linux ? 12:32 Amaz Linux, of course!!! :P 12:33 xerox123_ :O teach us your ways 12:33 tenplus1 :PP 12:33 Amaz Did you compile it yourself? 12:33 tenplus1 lemmie double check dev releases... 12:33 xerox123_ yeah 12:33 Amaz And what Irrlicht version? 12:34 xerox123 1.8.4 12:34 Amaz Odd 12:35 xerox123 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rpGzwcxByX/ 12:35 tenplus1 ooh, copy/paste works now... what gives...and why the blinky selection line ?!?! 12:37 Amaz Copy/paste with MT is very strange 12:37 tenplus1 !am just happy it kinda works now :) saves me typing in long urls :D 12:38 xerox123 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ yay 12:38 tenplus1 lol 12:38 tenplus1 BakedClay mod updated, added normal baked clay which needs to be dyed white (no longer cooks clay block to white) 12:39 Amaz xerox123: The only differences in that version list vs mine are that you're using gettext (could that affect it? No idea...), and yours isn't run in place (surely that can't change anything?!)... 12:39 Amaz Also I'm on the latest dev. 12:39 xerox123 Ill try disable gettext 12:41 xerox123 lol wut 12:41 xerox123 wait I'm being stupid, ignore 12:41 tenplus1 ? 12:42 xerox123 forgot the D infront of CMake options 12:42 tenplus1 ooh 12:42 Amaz :P 12:44 tenplus1 Nathan has done a mod review on Hoppers mod :) nice... 12:45 xerox123 ok I am stupid, was using USE_GETTEXT=OFF instead of ENABLE_GETTEXT=OFF, been a while since I did any of this 12:45 tenplus1 flags and more flags :P 12:48 xerox123 it's still borked 12:50 Amaz That's very odd... 12:57 tenplus1 laters all o/ 14:38 tumeninodes any other MTG devs who have a few moments to add their input/feeling on https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/2422 14:38 tumeninodes !title 14:38 MinetestBot tumeninodes: add new dry dirt node by TumeniNodes · Pull Request #2422 · minetest/minetest_game · GitHub 14:53 sfan5 tumeninodes: is making crops grow slower on dry dirt something that would be easily possible using farming? 14:53 sfan5 because that'd be a nice feature IMO 14:53 IhrFussel I found this 4 times in my debug.txt ... what could cause it? -> 2019-07-18 21:38:56: ACTION[Server]: Server::ProcessData(): PacketError: what=Reading outside packet (offset: 77, packet size: 77) 14:54 tumeninodes sfan5: hm, that's a good idea, I'll look into it 14:54 IhrFussel All 4 lines appeared pretty close to each other (within the same minute) 15:02 ANAND IhrFussel: As it's logged at the action level, I assume it isn't anything serious. 15:17 IhrFussel It gets generated here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/network/networkpacket.cpp#L43 15:19 IhrFussel Oh gosh...it gets called a lot of times in that file alone 15:39 tumeninodes sfan5: if the PR can get approved/supported, I can then start right away at altering the growing times, seems it has to do with fertility definition groups. If it gets merged it gives me a better position to start from on that aspect, tweaking it. If that makes sense 15:40 sfan5 yeah asking for devs' opinions would be useful 15:40 sfan5 i'd certainly support it 15:41 tumeninodes yep, that's why I'm asking for input and for it to be supported 15:42 tumeninodes may even be able to eventually introduce a new type of seed/crop specific to Savannah 15:44 tumeninodes the original issue discussion is here https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/2405 16:09 IhrFussel How can someone have a ping of 1+ secs? probably very slow device 16:10 rubenwardy bad internet can get you that 16:10 rubenwardy I've had that in internet cafes 16:11 tumeninodes massive bouncing :P 16:12 rubenwardy I actually got better ping and bandwidth when using a vpn from the cafe 16:12 rubenwardy technically it was just a cafe, not an internet one 16:13 IhrFussel Hm...but can device performance affect ping too? 16:13 rubenwardy not usually 16:13 tumeninodes with 5G everyone will be a literal signal tower :D 16:14 rubenwardy if the device performance does, then it's either going into battery saving modes (400MHz) 16:14 rubenwardy or there's some serious problems (ie: blocked receiving) 16:14 rubenwardy for Minetest, it's probably the latter 16:16 tumeninodes rubenwardy: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/2422 :D figured I'd harrass you while your looking 16:16 tumeninodes I'm being obnoxious today 18:37 Krock The reason that I don't get any PRs for my repositories is that they're bug-free 18:37 Krock change my mind 18:41 tumeninodes ^ https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypothesis 18:41 tumeninodes :D 18:41 VanessaE riiiiiight...and my servers NEVER lag. ™ 18:41 VanessaE :) 18:42 Krock VanessaE: I could prove the contrary 18:43 tumeninodes But Vanessa... your servers always..... (ohhhhhhhhhh) I get it 18:43 VanessaE :P 18:43 Krock tumeninodes: which might turn out to be valid 18:43 Krock (or correct) 18:45 tumeninodes I bet a hefty rendering farm could reduce lag on Vanessa's servers 18:45 VanessaE haha 18:45 sofar *cough* carts 18:46 tumeninodes I have a spare central AC unit and a shed 18:46 tumeninodes Ohhhhh snaap 18:46 Krock don't blame the carts 18:47 Krock it's technic's fault 18:47 Krock hi Rafi592 18:47 VanessaE in fact, I nerfed technic's ABMs on my server, to good effect 18:47 tumeninodes so glitchy is a built in feature then? 0_o 18:47 Krock a -hub newcomer? 18:47 VanessaE technic still runs, but only barely enough to do its job, and the server's quite playable. 18:48 * tumeninodes spams carts onto the map 18:48 Krock The less technic functions, the faster your server will run 18:48 VanessaE yup 18:48 Krock consider disabling forceloads /troll 18:49 VanessaE nah, didn't need to go THAT far :) 18:51 tumeninodes The stories from some who have tried to rewrite technic are oddly similar to ufo abduction stories 18:52 Krock well, even n0re said it's a huge mess 18:52 tumeninodes necessary evil 19:00 * rubenwardy looks at nore 19:00 * VanessaE looks at rubenwardy looking at nore 19:00 rubenwardy I think nore mentioned rewriting it whilst at CERN xD 19:00 rubenwardy comma missing there 19:01 * tumeninodes directs everyone's gaze to.... https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/2422 19:01 tumeninodes because Ima PIA 19:07 Krock a pain in (the) ass? 19:07 VanessaE pfft 19:08 VanessaE most here would call ME that, tumeninodes :P 19:08 tumeninodes my 'T' is sketchy works randomly 19:08 Krock [BALLOON DEFLATION SOUNDS INTENSIFY] 19:09 Krock i.e. pfffft 19:10 tumeninodes 9 out of 10 people reading that will literally make the sound out loud 19:10 VanessaE haha 19:10 tumeninodes I'm number 7 19:12 Krock 1/10 people: *silent people or blind people* 19:12 rubenwardy Private Internet Access? 19:12 VanessaE ssshhhhhh 19:12 Krock Public Internet Access 19:12 VanessaE you'll summon You Know Who 19:12 Krock Pthe Igreat Avoldemort 19:13 Krock indeed, the initials fit totally 19:13 VanessaE I mean the *other* You Know Who, you dork :) 19:13 * rubenwardy pays for private internet access 19:14 Krock oh. the doctor. 19:14 VanessaE haha 19:14 Krock sorry, I didn't get your reference at the first glance 19:43 sfan5 Calinou: looks like you missed something https://a.uguu.se/TdPHuB6e3Qkn_T0YEbYL.png 19:46 tumeninodes The doctor? Doctor Love? 19:47 * tumeninodes starts rummaging for his KISS albums 19:54 Krock Keep It Stupid Simple is indeed a great album 19:54 tumeninodes haha 20:09 Calinou sfan5: whoops, I think the APK download link is not up-to-date so it wasn't supposed to be linked 20:09 Calinou (unless a new one for 5.0.1 has been made?) 20:09 sfan5 yeah it's supposed to be commented out 20:10 Calinou that's not how Jekyll comments work indeed :) 20:10 Calinou will send a PR to fix it 20:12 sfan5 thanks 20:20 Calinou https://github.com/minetest/minetest.github.io/pull/179 20:26 sfan5 travis seems broken 20:26 sfan5 well whatever 20:40 Calinou yeah, CI has been broken for a while now, need to fix it 22:49 sfan5 tumeninodes: was the color of dry grass lighter before you changed it back? 22:50 tumeninodes The dry grass textures were never touched, only the new dry_dirt. It may look brighter now with the new texture 22:52 tumeninodes I just now changed the colour of the dry dirt back to the orig of the most recent PR, but the texture design was changed for what you suggested 22:54 tumeninodes I may put it back to more of a reddish tint and a pinch darker though, I liked it better. seems too light to me right now since the revert a few moment ago but right now I need to go visit someone in hospital 22:55 Jordach is it the person that went blind from bad textures? 22:56 tumeninodes no, my mother who's AML has returned : / 22:57 sfan5 tumeninodes: the dirt is what I meant, I prefer it lighter so that's fine 22:57 tumeninodes i'll leave it like that then, as both yourself and paramat prefer it