Time Nick Message 00:14 BillyS Can't a tool's tool_capabilities be modified now in MT 5? 00:33 rubenwardy BillyS: yes, stack:set_tool_capabilities(spec) 00:33 BillyS Sweet, thanks 15:17 Fixer https://i.redd.it/b041awp4pps21.jpg 15:52 tenplus1 hi folks 15:52 VanessaE hi 15:53 tenplus1 hi Vanessa, what's new ? 15:53 VanessaE nuffin' 15:53 tenplus1 :P same... 15:54 tenplus1 seen a few new hardcore servers on list, look interesting 15:54 VanessaE you wanna take on another project that could use your "redo" magic? :) 15:55 tenplus1 whassat ? 15:56 VanessaE fork homedecor's wardrobe. make it read from an arbitrary folder full of skins, instead of the fixed-10 thing it does now. :) 15:56 VanessaE it needs a rewrite and I'm too f'ing lazy :) 15:57 tenplus1 you included wardrobe mod in the pack ? 15:57 VanessaE not a mod, it's an old node that's been there forever 15:57 VanessaE has no relation to any existing wardrobe-type mods 15:57 tenplus1 ahh, heh, just checking :D 15:58 VanessaE but they all suck imho :) 15:58 tenplus1 *gasp* even Simple Skins ? 15:58 VanessaE that one sucks the least :) 15:58 tenplus1 ehehehe 15:58 VanessaE maybe fork the wardrobe node out of homedecor, combine it with simple skins 15:59 tenplus1 will check it out and see what I can do :) would be more interesting to have players build a wardrobe first before they could change skins 15:59 VanessaE then I could re-incorporate it as a standalone-able component of the modpack :) 15:59 VanessaE I think a search-filter would be a good idea, too 16:00 VanessaE kinda like the one in unified inventory 16:00 tenplus1 searcxh skin titles and author 16:00 VanessaE yeah 16:00 VanessaE or filename or wtf ever is easiest 16:00 VanessaE but see, 16:00 VanessaE simple skins requires too much effort on the part of the admin 16:01 tenplus1 it does ? I just plot a new skin in and call it character_000.png and the list adds it 16:01 VanessaE I'd like to be able to just plunk a file into a dir, keeping its raw filename (if the name makes sense), and just let the mod build the list 16:02 tenplus1 will look into that... but... custom player skins are in th same dir... would include those too even when you wouldnt want it to 16:02 VanessaE i.e. "also... pop into the meta directory and make a new XXXXXX file with this text inside it" is too much work 16:03 VanessaE and it should support the 64x64 skin format if possible 16:03 VanessaE and mesh nicely with 3darmor 16:03 tenplus1 it will... since 5.0 player model supports it already 16:03 VanessaE and...and...and... 16:03 VanessaE ;) 16:03 VanessaE wait what? 16:03 tenplus1 3d_armor supports simple skins already so will build on that 16:03 VanessaE I've been cropping skins to 64x32 since forever - player_textures mod. 16:04 tenplus1 I had a "WeeSkin" mod that worked like player_textures but did 64x64 16:04 VanessaE also, 16:04 VanessaE it's a bad idea to have one file per player for anything 16:05 tenplus1 sskins uses player meta to set skin :D no files needed 16:05 VanessaE lots of small files (i.e. as created over time as a server ages) take geological time to back up if you're using a HDD 16:05 VanessaE eh? 16:05 VanessaE what about: also... pop into the meta directory and make a new "character_31.txt" file with this text inside it" 16:05 VanessaE first post of simple skins forum thread 16:06 tenplus1 that's only for the skin itself, if I'm adding all those to a single file it would do away with it 16:06 VanessaE ok 16:06 VanessaE your work makes my life easier, just trying to help :) 16:07 tenplus1 got the wardrobe extracted with files, will check it out 16:07 VanessaE ok 16:09 tenplus1 much prefer the model wardrobe instead of 2 nodes... they should change beds to do this also 16:37 Fixer Hey, little drums *,,,,,* 16:37 tenplus1 o// 16:40 tenplus1 hi Banzai 16:40 BuckarooBanzai hey :) 16:41 BuckarooBanzai whats up? 16:41 tenplus1 building a wardrobe :P 16:41 BuckarooBanzai from VanessaE's homedecor..? 16:41 tenplus1 hehe yeh 16:41 VanessaE tenplus1: if mtg had a good public beds api I'd make homedecor override the mtg bed and use it. homedecor's beds are one node apiece, even king size 16:42 BuckarooBanzai tenplus1: nice :D 16:42 tenplus1 could always simplify bed api like I did with sethome 16:43 BuckarooBanzai i'm just putting that here: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=21999 (incremental mapserver) should be stable/mature now... :) 16:43 VanessaE well it's not so much that it's complicated. it's not really public, and what parts are are undocumented afair, 16:44 tenplus1 le map 16:49 tenplus1 you try to do too much within homedecor Vanessa, gotta start relying on other mods like inttlib etc 16:53 VanessaE I know 16:53 VanessaE a lot of that is old cruft 16:53 VanessaE years of development.. 16:53 VanessaE the whole thing needs refactored 16:53 tenplus1 am jumping back and forward through lua's to see how the wardrobe works :) you have custom functions for most things :DDD 16:54 VanessaE yep, like I said... lots of cruft :) 17:00 tenplus1 w00t! we have separation... working as standalone mod now 17:01 VanessaE \o/ 17:01 VanessaE how much code were you able to delete from homedecor? 17:01 * tenplus1 stores a wardrobe inside a wardrobe... ooooOOOooohhh! 17:01 tenplus1 I stripped down homedecor to the bare min to get wardrope working :) can prolly strip it even further 17:02 VanessaE :+1: 17:02 tenplus1 is sitting at 117kb 17:04 VanessaE that's homedecor sans wardrobe? 17:04 tenplus1 oh sorry, wardrobe on it's own with textures is sitting at 117kb 17:05 VanessaE eek 17:05 VanessaE sounds like a bunch of HD crap is still sticking to it :) 17:05 tenplus1 lotta homedecor.* dependency functions, stripping those now :D 17:09 VanessaE homedecor practically went the way of emacs: it's almost become an operating system ;) 17:09 tenplus1 lol yeah :P 17:09 tenplus1 never actually used emacs all that much 17:11 VanessaE you have I believe exio4 to thank for the current state of HD - it woulda been much worse without his input :) 17:16 tenplus1 102kb 17:21 tenplus1 hi rafi 17:22 Rafi59 Hi :) 17:33 tenplus1 hi Megaf 17:35 tenplus1 95kb 17:35 VanessaE tenplus1: I assume you'll make a PR to move it to its own mod? I think it should be called "homedecor_wardrobe" 17:35 tenplus1 yep :) 17:37 VanessaE I think a good start for refactoring HD, after you get the wardrobe separated-out, would be to move all those extra functions and handlers, all the generic materials, into like "homedecor_api", then turn each of the "foo.lua" files that provides items/nodes, into a separate mod i.e. foo.lua -> homedecor_foo/init.lua and make each depend on that api component 17:37 VanessaE I can do that. 17:38 tenplus1 yeah, simplify the whole thing and remove a buttload of dependencies 17:41 BuckarooBanzai VanessaE: will you make it backward compatible? :) that would spare everybody some trouble when upgrading... :D 17:41 VanessaE it would be yeah 17:42 VanessaE all players would need to do is re-enable the whole modpack 17:42 VanessaE that way they'll see no obvious changes, aside from the work tenplus1 is doing on the wardrobe of course 17:46 tenplus1 hiraven 17:46 Raven262 Hi ten 17:59 VanessaE oh, and since there'll still need to be a "homedecor" mod (i.e. by that specific name), I'll build it off of misc-nodes.lua. 18:06 rubenwardy anyone here speak portugese? https://twitter.com/zacariasxatt/status/1118539292450729985 18:06 rubenwardy might be worth saying the 0.4.13 is very old 18:06 * VanessaE peeks over tenplus1's shoulder.... um, why'd you move that block of code there? and shouldn't *that* texture be used instead? :) 18:06 VanessaE kaeza: ^ 18:06 VanessaE I think he does? 18:07 tenplus1 rubenwardy: "Tfw you install Minecraft on the computers at the college" ? 18:07 rubenwardy I know what it says 18:07 tenplus1 eheh oh :P 18:07 VanessaE look at the window title bar, tenplus1 18:07 rubenwardy I've learned that replying using Google Translate is a bad idea 18:08 tenplus1 :P 18:17 tenplus1 87kb :P 18:17 VanessaE how much of that is the textures, btw? 18:18 tenplus1 textures and model are 79kb 18:18 VanessaE so only 8 kb of code, that's not so bad 18:18 tenplus1 getting there 18:20 tenplus1 wb 18:24 VanessaE back in a bit 18:31 kaeza Hm? 18:32 kaeza Greetings. 18:32 tenplus1 o/ kaeza 18:32 kaeza o/ tenplus1 18:49 tenplus1 hi ssieb 18:50 ssieb hi 18:50 VanessaE back 18:52 tenplus1 wb 19:03 tenplus1 wb 19:08 tenplus1 will leave it there for now... 8.6kb and working a-ok :) 19:08 Megaf Hey tenplus1 19:08 tenplus1 hi dude 19:09 Megaf hows things mate 19:10 tenplus1 not bad, tinkering with vanessa's wardrope in homedecor... separated it into it's own mod for now... yourself ? 19:10 Megaf hah, been far away from minetest for a while 19:10 tenplus1 time off for good behaviour :D 19:11 Megaf hah 19:11 Megaf so, I got these two ThinkPads 19:11 Megaf very happy with them, and they run MT quite well 19:11 tenplus1 nice one, thinkpads are quite stable :D 19:11 Megaf I also've been testing Clear Linux in one of them 19:12 tenplus1 I keep trying that one, my non-uefi nettop doesnt wanna boot it 19:12 Megaf oh, just use clover efi in one usb 19:12 Megaf lemme get you the link 19:13 Megaf tenplus1, https://sourceforge.net/projects/cloverefiboot/ 19:13 Megaf so, with that you can boot EFI stuff on BIOS only PCs 19:13 tenplus1 thankies 19:13 Megaf it can boot even macOS :P 19:13 tenplus1 o.O dont think I'll go that far :D 19:14 Megaf so you boot Clover Boot from the flash drive, then plug in clear linux flash drive and done 19:14 Megaf though I dont think Clear Linux supports Atom, it needs a second gen i3/5/7 at least 19:15 tenplus1 prolly why I'm having issues... might just stick to Kubuntu 19.04 for now :D 19:16 Megaf hah, I just upgraded my main ThinkPad from Debian Stretch (Stable) to Debian Buster (RC1) 19:16 tenplus1 looks like I'm gonna have to go through all the licenses for mobs redo when I have some time off... am getting issues on notabug regarding textures it seems 19:16 Megaf I have one of the ThinkPads for work/college and other for fun 19:17 Megaf tenplus1, just use my very own license 19:17 Megaf :P 19:17 tenplus1 work and fun :) the two shall never mix :D 19:17 tenplus1 https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/mobs_monster/issues/1 19:17 Megaf https://gist.github.com/Megaf/a4a131027db7deb612c71556886a300a 19:17 Megaf my license... ^ 19:18 tenplus1 lol, nice one :D 19:18 Megaf it's a mix of with do what the fuck you want with beer license 19:19 Megaf what the fuck you want license -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTFPL 19:19 Megaf Beer License -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beerware 19:19 tenplus1 hehe, I use MIT mostly for simplicity;'s sake and use in schools 19:29 tenplus1 nite all 19:35 BuckarooBanzai bye all 19:38 Megaf sorry, internet issues 19:38 Megaf oh, he is gone already 20:14 Emerald2 Dangit I missed tenplus1 20:47 sofar !tell Megaf clearlinux supports Atom processorts - most 2014+ models work fine 20:47 MinetestBot sofar: I'll pass that on when Megaf is around