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IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2019-03-29

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Time Nick Message
00:01 IhrFussel Not even WorldEdit works
00:01 IhrFussel When this happens
00:01 IhrFussel You send the command but nothing happens
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00:06 Peppy IhrFussel, I noticed that too, thanks to a mod, getting rid of pseudos like guest345 helped a lot
00:07 Peppy appears that some crappy clients ask for insane viewing range
00:07 Peppy may be part of the explanation
00:08 paramat IhrFussel could it be a particular player instead of a particular forked app?
00:08 IhrFussel No it happens with lots of players
00:08 IhrFussel But mainly ones with randomly generated names
00:09 IhrFussel And it only happens when there are lots of them online
00:09 IhrFussel It feels like each additional client of that type adds more 'map lag'
00:09 IhrFussel Until the map just gives up completely
00:10 IhrFussel Whenever this happens the server also refuses ANY inventory actions
00:10 paramat hm i wonder how clients can do this ...
00:10 IhrFussel I set my block_send_distance to 8 ... can clients somehow ignore this?
00:11 paramat obviously there should be serverside protection against this happening
00:11 paramat clients can't override that, it's set serverside
00:11 paramat as is 'generate distance'
00:12 IhrFussel I'm guessing this is also connected to the fact that most mobile app users first float mid air when joining...like their app takes a bit to load the actual map
00:12 paramat any chance you could ask these players which app they use?
00:12 IhrFussel They also often complain about seeing only gray
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00:13 Peppy IhrFussel, I found out the culprit for this darkscreen
00:13 IhrFussel This floating can also happen during gameplay for them...like when they suddenly tp to a previously unloaded area
00:14 Peppy the players did complain but were inside a node, I would TP them, then the player would go back staight back into the wall
00:14 Peppy (without player interaction )
00:15 Peppy it appeared that those players were running some version of Multicraft
00:15 IhrFussel Yes! I witnessed that too
00:15 Peppy I can't tell wich version though
00:15 IhrFussel Players said they were stuck somewhere and I tp them...and a few secs later they suddenly tp back into the corner
00:16 IhrFussel They also cannot look around
00:16 IhrFussel (have playeranim on my server)
00:16 IhrFussel Their heads stay either upwards or downwards
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00:19 IhrFussel Whatever those clients do they somehow are able to prevent the server from sending mapblocks to other players... this must be some sort of loop
00:19 IhrFussel I also watched network traffic when it happens but it's normal
00:20 IhrFussel Server load also doesn't go up
00:20 paramat the well know 'multicraft'? it seems there are several 'multicraft' forked apps =/
00:21 IhrFussel There are so many 3rd-party apps that it will be impossible to identify the cause ... I just fear that the same apps will also hang 5.X servers when they upgrade some day
00:21 Peppy I guess this wasn't "standard" Multicraft
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00:22 IhrFussel And blocking users with such names doesn't necessarily fix this... cause some actually get that they can change the name the app gives them
00:22 IhrFussel And then they play on a borked version with a 'legal' name
00:24 Peppy well, blocking those crappy names made a big difference for us
00:25 Peppy this + "strict_protocol_version_checking = true"
00:25 IhrFussel Just happened again... and exactly what I just said 'wimbish' was the source
00:29 IhrFussel Network is really not the problem... was 3.8 MB/s during the map stalling and 3.7 MB/s after
00:31 IhrFussel But 1 app user alone isn't capable of this... it only happens when my server is full of people
00:31 IhrFussel Like 25+
00:32 IhrFussel Then chances are high that most of them are app users
00:33 IhrFussel It also happened (rarely) on 0.4.17 CTF
00:44 IhrFussel It happens every few minutes on my server right now
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03:51 DI3HARD139 !up sv2.gn.krynet.pw
03:51 MinetestBot sv2.gn.krynet.pw:30000 seems to be down
03:51 DI3HARD139 grr
03:52 DI3HARD139 oh wait. duh...
03:56 DI3HARD139 !up mt.krynet.pw
03:56 MinetestBot mt.krynet.pw:30000 seems to be down
03:57 Emerald2 Which server is that?
03:58 DI3HARD139 Just a dummy. Trying to figure out why only select IPs can connect to my server no problem while other cant ping and or join worlds.
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05:07 DI3HARD139 !up mt.krynet.pw
05:07 MinetestBot mt.krynet.pw:30000 is up (88ms)
05:07 DI3HARD139 I am soooo freaking mad rn. All that for nothing.......
05:10 sofar lol
05:10 sofar figure it out then?
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05:30 DI3HARD139 Yeah. Apparently we were working with 3 firewalls. Not just 2.
05:30 DI3HARD139 Said 3rd was filtering most UDP traffic....
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15:51 tumeninodes rubenwardy, I just updated my Default LS tp on CDB, it awaits approval kind sir. Took me a few times to remember I had to update the master on the webpage :P
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15:52 tumeninodes omg kaeza is back??! Hi kaeza
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20:10 BuckarooBanzai hi al
20:10 BuckarooBanzai *all
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22:40 kaeza !tell tumeninodes Heya! How's it going?
22:40 MinetestBot kaeza: yeah, sure, whatever
22:40 kaeza Greetings.
23:20 VanessaE Well, I'm losing my home.  have to move.  If anyone can help me, https://www.gofundme.com/f/5pqdb-help-me-move
23:54 kaeza VanessaE: that sucks. :(
23:54 kaeza Wish I could be able to help in some way, but resources are scarce over here.

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