Time  Nick         Message
03:16 luk3yx       rubenwardy: Why does https://content.minetest.net/api/packages/?type=mod&type=game&type=txp&protocol_version=32 show 0.4-incompatible mods?
03:17 luk3yx       (And games, such as minetest_game)
03:21 luk3yx       It breaks my backported mod store page
03:25 rubenwardy   Minetest game is 0.4 compatible
03:25 rubenwardy   Please give examples
03:25 luk3yx       It's serving my fork minetest_game 5.0.0-dev
03:26 rubenwardy   Have you marked all releases as min 5?
03:26 luk3yx       ?
03:26 rubenwardy   Have you added the minetest versions to the dB in the correct order?
03:27 rubenwardy   Are all your releases for the package marked as v5 as the main version?
03:27 luk3yx       It's not my package, it's minetest_game
03:27 luk3yx       And it's not showing MineClone 2 (that's marked as 5.0 incompatible)
03:28 rubenwardy   I don't understand
03:28 luk3yx       I backported the content browser to 0.4 and it isn't getting 0.4 mods
03:29 rubenwardy   Packages will show up if there is at least one release meeting the requirements
03:29 rubenwardy   Even if the most recent release doesn't
03:29 luk3yx       So why isn't MineClone 2 showing up?
03:30 rubenwardy   I also hope that this isn't for a malicious fork
03:30 luk3yx       No...?
03:30 luk3yx       Unless I haven't made it clear enough that it's a fork
03:31 rubenwardy   I can reproduce the issue though, with mineclone
04:27 luk3yx       When I set protocol_version to 0 in the URL it seems to give me 0.4 mods+games, I'll do that for now.
08:54 Megaf        Hi everyone
08:58 luk3yx       Hello
09:08 Sokomine     how do i switch to another locale for testing locale settings? i usually don't want them. but this time i need it for testing...
11:17 sfan5        Sokomine: language = nl in minetest.conf
11:22 IhrFussel    Can someone explain to me how UI can cause a lag of NINE SECONDS?!
11:22 IhrFussel    unified_inventory:                                      |         0 |   9385391 |       224 |   0.0 |  99.7 |   3.0
11:22 IhrFussel    - on_player_receive_fields[2] .......................  |         1 |   9384986 |       802
11:28 Krock        *shrug*
11:28 Krock        add debug lines
11:28 Krock        bisect
11:28 IhrFussel    I think there was a lag of 5 secs caused by that callback before... is it possible that bad clients are the source?
11:29 IhrFussel    This is the ONLY callback that lagged my server for multiple seconds recently... I added a length limit to the search field...will see if that was the issue after restart
11:30 IhrFussel    Maybe someone is crazy and types thousands of characters into the search field...not sure if that could cause such an extreme lag
11:33 IhrFussel    Nobody stole resources at that time btw ... I log the steal value of 'top' every second plus time and compare it to the MT debug.txt which also logs high lag values... and steal was at 0.1
11:50 Sokomine     sfan5: thanks!
11:50 Sokomine     IhrFussel: well, i can imagine that it laggs the first time once the pages are created. but after that i wouldn't expect any lag
11:52 IhrFussel    Wouldn't that lag be client side? Or can a slow client lag the server with a slow connection while sending formspec fields?
12:10 Sokomine     oh, hm. strange effect: tried a node with paramtype2 = leveled. made it increase its param2 by one for each punch (used swap_node for that). and...er...if i punch that node now, my character actually moves upwards. this is something i havn't seen before
12:10 Sokomine     perhaps a rounding error? could be a nice behaviour if actually intended (finally - one node high lifts!)
12:11 Sokomine     IhrFussel: i don't remember what ui does when it creates the pages. but yes, it might be more client-side
12:24 Krock        Sokomine: that's intended. you also slide a bit downwards sometimes when jumping onto a node
12:24 Krock        it's for easier movement
12:25 Krock        and it's one of the reasons why the player rarely glitches through node edges/staircases
12:25 Sokomine     krock: it's great :-) i havn't seen that before. i wonder if we could use that for (limited) player lifts
12:40 tenplus1     hi folks :)
12:40 tenplus1     hey Krock
12:42 Krock        hi tenplus1
12:42 Krock        how are you? :D
12:42 tenplus1     o/ am good ta :) you ?
12:44 tenplus1     just updated Ethereal NG, added Sakura biome with tree's and a light pink wood :)
12:51 tenplus1     hi kaeza
13:21 Krock        hi kar
13:21 Krock        kaeza *. err, autocomplete is hard thanks to kaeptmblaubaer
13:22 tenplus1     heh
13:25 tenplus1     do we have an app available that can quick-show a biome spread map-style ??
13:30 Krock        I wrote one for my lua mapgen, but sadly it does not support the kind of biome format Minetest now has by default
13:31 tenplus1     shame...  I'd love a quick guide to biomes and how they would appear in-game using a specific seed
13:31 Krock        it would be possible to let Minetest calculate the surface position and the biome
13:31 Krock        but that requires some additional code to open and write a png file
13:32 tenplus1     yeah, is handy tho :D
13:33 Krock        after all you could also write a mod for it - requires Minetest 5.0.0-dev for the API functions, though
13:33 tenplus1     problem with that is it wouldnt be fast, am hoping for something that takes 10 seconds to show an image of biome spread
13:35 Krock        got an idea
13:36 tenplus1     ?
13:38 tenplus1     if only lua came with a simple 2d graphics library, then we could use the actual language to do all this outwith the game engine
13:45 Krock        tenplus1: mgv7 https://pastebin.com/raw/p0pWDqRM
13:45 ChimneySwift pretty sure there's already a Java based app for that, Amiditest or something like that. not sure how you put in your own biomes but I've used it on default ones before
13:46 tenplus1     hi ChimneySwift
13:46 ChimneySwift hey tenplus1
13:46 tenplus1     nice Krock, does each number cover 1 map block ?
13:46 Krock        100 nodes
13:47 Krock        doing some pretty-fiynig stuff
13:47 tenplus1     interesting
13:55 Krock        16 biomes
13:55 Krock        my map is wrecked
13:56 tenplus1     what happened ?
13:58 Krock        https://pastebin.com/raw/z03e8tJz
13:58 Krock        I've got to use abcd instead of 1234 now
13:58 tenplus1     biomed are a fiddly detail indeed in minetest
13:58 Krock        generating with 32 nodes now
13:59 Krock        https://pastebin.com/raw/67B6XwQs
14:00 tenplus1     is all the blank spaces the sea ?
14:00 Krock        no, see the surrounding biomes
14:01 Krock        it's the same kind, but removed for easier viewing
14:01 Krock        larger blanks = larger biomes
14:01 tenplus1     ohh
14:01 tenplus1     sakura looks huge when the other biomes arentpresent
14:07 Krock        https://gist.github.com/SmallJoker/03c92442c4b81a6d2e7573c7950a10cc
14:08 tenplus1     instead of shoe-horning in a new biome to the already growing mix I made the bamboo/sakura one's height specific
14:08 tenplus1     nice one Krock :) thanks dude, will check that out when I update to 5.0
14:09 Krock        np. It's very basic, tho
14:09 tenplus1     does the job though :) and can use ascii values to convert into bitmap colours
14:09 Krock        would be way better to generate a multicolor image, taking the biome name hash as color
14:10 tenplus1     yeah, we need something like this avauilable cause the program that Paramat uses to calculate biomevalues is crap
14:13 tenplus1     and from what was said the values closer to heat:0 humidity:0 generate way larger biomes than the one's with higher values
15:14 tenplus1     wb entuland
15:31 tenplus1     o/
16:51 behalebabo   Can I write a CSM to automatically submit a formspec event to some nodes when I run a command?
16:59 kaeza        Hi Krock. Missed 11 again.
16:59 kaeza        Greetings all.
17:01 Krock        greetings. yes sadly you did
17:08 rdococ       Hi.
19:15 jas_         ho
19:22 rdococ       JasHo
19:23 kaeza        rdococ!
19:25 rdococ       KaeZa
20:49 rdococ       Does minetest.serialize preserve all table structure?
20:50 Krock        rdococ: yes, as long it's not a function or userdata
20:50 Krock        I also don't think that table references are kept
20:50 rdococ       Ah, so no recursion?
20:51 Krock        hard to serialize that to a string
20:51 rdococ       I could probably create a function to do it, given some time and access to the Lua reference manual.
21:18 GreenDimond  Someone is suggesting I use SSDB (clone of redis) for my server. Currently using sqlite3; is there a noticeable advantage? And how much work is it to set up?
21:19 sofar        it's more work, because you have to run a redis server
21:19 sofar        I'd suggest going from sqlite to postgresql instead
21:20 GreenDimond  And whats the advantage there?
21:20 GreenDimond  (size, speed, ..?)
21:20 sofar        by far the most reliable backend, near-best performance
21:20 sofar        and it's not redis
21:23 GreenDimond  so for protgresql I just have to use apt to install it and migrate the map?
21:24 sofar        MT can migrate between backends with a startup command
21:24 sofar        but yes, you'll need to install and configure postgresql first
21:24 GreenDimond  ah configuration
21:25 sofar        it's not too complex
21:32 GreenDimond  is there a good doc for config?
21:33 GreenDimond  The docs im looking at are the complete docs and very daunting to look at
21:47 GreenDimond  do you use protgres on ITB, sofar?
22:39 sofar        GreenDimond: no, ITB's map.sqlite is barely 50MB or so because the server doesn't have mapgen
22:39 sofar        GreenDimond: so there's no need for anything more than sqlite
23:23 IhrFussel    You can run a 50 GB map with sqlite fine on a SSD
23:52 IhrFussel    The on player receive fields lags still happen even when limiting the search text size
23:53 IhrFussel    - on_player_receive_fields[2] .......................  |         1 |   6579054 |       886
23:59 IhrFussel    It would help if I knew which callback is meant exactly... looks like the 2nd of that mod... the question is why one is the 2nd that gets registered...maybe init.lua tells me