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IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2019-02-12

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00:03 paramat IhrFussel that CSM sounds mod on the forum has a folder that has to be put in the server mod folder, so it isn't a purely clientside mod, it's a serverside mod plus a clientside mod. only server owners can use it
00:04 paramat somewhat weird
00:05 IhrFussel Why not implement as server side mod then?
00:05 VanessaE not so much
00:05 VanessaE technic's music player works that way too
00:05 IhrFussel Is there a callback the server cannot use in that CSM?
00:05 VanessaE it won't play anything without a sound pack installed in the client.
00:06 GreenDimond :0
00:06 GreenDimond well I finally understand how the music player works
00:14 paramat i can't see how technic music player works the same way, otherwise every player would have to install files locally
00:17 VanessaE paramat: bingo.
00:17 VanessaE RBA did it that way because high quality music would demand huge downloads.
00:18 VanessaE better to have individual clients fetch and install sounds if they want them than to force all players to download at connect time
00:19 VanessaE even low-quality would still add up.. say 10 MB worth of audio vs. 30 MB
00:26 IhrFussel Wait...that feature was available years ago?
00:27 VanessaE yup.
00:27 VanessaE you install the sounds as a pack, in a way similar to installing a texture pack.
00:28 VanessaE though idk where to find any "official" sound pack for it.
00:28 paramat ah sound pack ok
00:29 paramat that's not what this forum mod does, the sounds are on the server and sent to the client, the client uses CSM code to play them
00:30 IhrFussel So 'sound packs' allow to override server sounds still?
00:30 VanessaE paramat: yeah I know.  but the idea is similar.
00:31 VanessaE IhrFussel: dunno, never tried.
00:31 paramat so this sounds mod is a 'manual server-sent CSM mod' (before SSCSM has been coded), you have to convince all your players to download the mod and install the client side part
00:31 VanessaE yeah, no.
00:31 VanessaE I hate that idea.
00:31 VanessaE that's MC territory there
00:32 paramat i downloaded the mod, i guess the advantage is inventory open/close, death and damage sounds without network delay
00:32 IhrFussel That might sound weird if the server DOES lag... cause then you hear the sound but visual is missing
00:34 paramat https://wiki.minetest.net/Sound_Packs and there's the technic music player info
00:34 IhrFussel Well and inventory callbacks are new to 5.0.0
00:34 IhrFussel At least server side... not sure if CSMs have those in 0.4.X
00:35 paramat seems similar to texture packs. there's perhaps an argument that a server should be able to override the client's choice of textures and sounds
00:36 IhrFussel For texture packs I guess a way to make 'sure' the client sees the texture the server wants them to see is by giving it a string no texture pack includes
00:37 IhrFussel Renaming the texture to 'texturename_[randomstring]' should already work...right?
00:41 paramat aah hmm
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00:48 IhrFussel For sounds it is not as easy...not if you rely on default sounds
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01:20 Fixer just use MOD/XM/AHX player in minetest, tiny downloads, thicc musik
01:21 Fixer but before put some mobs into mtg ofc, to increase the fun (cat_eyes.tga)
01:21 Fixer have a nice night
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14:35 tenplus1 hi folks :)
14:36 * tenplus1 *boops* all
14:37 tenplus1 does anyone else use nvidia drivers ???
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14:57 tenplus1 hi CBugDCoder
14:57 CBugDCoder hi ten
14:57 tenplus1 :P
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15:07 CWz I use nvidia drivers
15:07 tenplus1 hey CWz, are you using linux as well ?
15:08 CWz Yes
15:08 tenplus1 have you noticed that nvidia drivers uses a LOT of memory when using latest ?
15:09 tenplus1 e.g. I use Kubuntu 19.04 and it sits nicely at 294mb, then I added nvidia drivers and it shot up to 590mb o.O
15:10 CWz Hmm i am using 18.04 and 396.54
15:10 CWz so i might not have that issue
15:10 tenplus1 ahh, I have an Nvidia ion.v2 (gt-218) so needs 340 to work... bah!
15:11 CWz Sheep
15:11 tenplus1 sheep ?
15:12 CWz You went Bah
15:12 tenplus1 eheheh
15:14 tenplus1 just weird that it uses 300mb worth of driver memory, that's excessive
15:17 CWz is the open source driver any good?
15:18 tenplus1 noveau worked fine on initial install, but it's not as fast as binary blob
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15:21 tenplus1 hi xenon
15:21 _Xenon Hi tenplus1 :)
15:22 tenplus1 o//
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