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IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2019-02-05

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00:06 jas_ i think that was before 0.4.17.1, and when 5.0.0 was 0.5.0-dev.
00:39 luk3yx Ah
00:59 sofar unlikely
00:59 sofar everyone should move to 5.x
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02:41 IhrFussel Hey guys...let's say an entity is registered with a certain callback like self.dothis and inside there is a function executed ... now that entity spawns on the map ... if I now change the dothis callback of the registration to something AFTER it already spawned will the new callback apply to the old entities as well?
02:44 IhrFussel Example: I register an animal with 'dothis = function(self) self.value = 1 end' ... now that entity is spawned/loaded and after I edit the entity register function to 'dothis = function(self) self.value = 2 end' ... will all entities with that name now have the value of 2 or some 1 and some 2?
02:55 kaeza It will.
02:56 kaeza Probably.
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09:11 luk3yx Yay, forked MT 0.4 to add pitch flying
09:37 luk3yx ...and I broke git on my phone
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13:12 IcyDiamond interesting how the "select world" text list ignores boundaries of list elements
13:12 IcyDiamond like, you can choose a world from outside the gui frame
13:12 IcyDiamond only seems to check for y boundary
13:14 IcyDiamond oh nvm its not just the select world one
13:16 IcyDiamond https://i.lunasqu.ee/2019-02-05-15-14-34.mp4
13:17 IcyDiamond is this a known issue or notabug?
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16:45 VanessaE http://i.imgur.com/Bp7jxvR.png  haha
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16:51 sfan5 i've never seen that page, is it new?
16:52 VanessaE beats me.  came up when I clicked on a forum link from someone in my server channel :)
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17:06 tenplus1 hi folks :)
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17:10 tenplus1 hi Xenon
17:10 _Xenon Hi tenplus1 :)
17:11 tenplus1 :P
17:12 Gael-de-Sailly Hi tenplus1, _Xenon and others :D
17:12 tenplus1 hey Gael-de-Sailly
17:12 _Xenon Hi Gael! :)
17:14 tenplus1 everyone testing the 5.0rc ?
17:16 _Xenon Is that on GitLab? Or where can i find it? ^^
17:16 tenplus1 check download page, mint/ubuntu(untested) has latest rc
17:19 _Xenon Ah thanks
17:20 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=22078
17:20 tenplus1 hi Vanessa
17:20 VanessaE hi
17:25 tenplus1 VanessaE: you got any 5.0 servers ?
17:26 VanessaE all of them.
17:27 VanessaE I updated when -rc1 came out.
17:27 tenplus1 ohhh, you've gone all in and updated :)
17:27 tenplus1 any issues so far ?
17:27 VanessaE nothing major.  so far the only issues have been a couple of mods that broke.
17:27 VanessaE but that was easily dealt with
17:28 tenplus1 ooh, which mods ?
17:28 VanessaE playeranim:  delete.  armor mod: merge the "MT_0.5.0-dev" branch into master.  couple of breakages in skyblock which rnd already fixed.
17:29 VanessaE a few mods in my archive use nodeupdate(), but none of them are in active use.
17:29 tenplus1 oh yeah, stu has a 5.0 dev brench...  gotta remember that if we update Xanadu
17:29 tenplus1 did android version hit 5.0rc also ?
17:29 VanessaE idk.
17:29 VanessaE oh and formspec positioning is a little off (shifted a bit right) in some mods.
17:29 tenplus1 nope,sadly not... still on 0.4.17-2
17:30 tenplus1 lot of our players use mobile
17:30 VanessaE and there's some thin black border that shows up around inventory slots in unified_inventory.
17:30 VanessaE so nothing critical.
17:31 tenplus1 a few small issues that can be easily sorted
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17:32 tenplus1 hi CWz
17:33 tenplus1 on my next days off I'll create a virtual machine and test 5.0 with all the mods we use and see if it works out :D
17:39 CWz 0.5 full is out tenplus1 ?
17:39 tenplus1 will be interesting to finally get into all the new features...
17:39 tenplus1 CWz:5.0 release candidate
17:39 tenplus1 this is what final will be with some tweaks and bug fixes mebbe
17:39 VanessaE CWz: 5.0.0-rc1
17:40 tenplus1 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=22078
17:40 rubenwardy VanessaE: that's because UI uses a non-standard background
17:40 rubenwardy remove the crappy background and let games have consistent theming
17:40 CWz what about the all the 0.4 users which make up the most
17:40 tenplus1 hi ruben
17:40 rubenwardy or use   no_prepends[]
17:40 rubenwardy there's a forum topic for this
17:40 VanessaE rubenwardy: well, I don't maintain it :P
17:41 rubenwardy here's the forum announcement: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=20646
17:41 rubenwardy hi tenplus1
17:41 * rubenwardy is trying to fix his touchpad
17:41 tenplus1 got jam stains on it ?
17:41 tenplus1 all those PB&J sammiches dude
17:41 CWz VanessaE, will be switching to 5 too
17:42 tenplus1 we'll need to wait until android has 5.0 release
17:42 CWz also wouldn't calling minetest version 5 make people thing that is no longer a beta game
17:42 tenplus1 hehe, that's waht I thought :P but seems progression is needed
17:42 rubenwardy no, it's brand new
17:43 rubenwardy I have this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/dell-sputnik/+bug/1651635
17:45 * tenplus1 fixes it by adding usb mouse :D
17:45 rubenwardy that also breaks occasionally
17:45 tenplus1 damn, how old is your lappy ?
17:45 rubenwardy a month
17:45 rubenwardy I had my motherboard and touchpad replaced yesterday
17:46 tenplus1 you been into bios and looked for touchpad states ?
17:46 rubenwardy I haven't seen any settings like that there
17:46 tenplus1 my acer laptop bios has support for win10 multi-gestures or normal... had to turn to normal for it to work ok
18:02 Fixer VanessaE: when celeron-55 figures in panic that he did not backup since 2011
18:02 tenplus1 hi fixer
18:03 Fixer hi tenplus1
18:03 Fixer and everyone else
18:03 Fixer tidypeople
18:05 scr267 rubenwardy: hum... i have the 9570 and never ran into that...
18:05 rubenwardy my friend has the exact same model, and no problems
18:06 scr267 weird... could be the hardware itself?
18:06 tenplus1 later in the forum you showed ruben it states that it may be hardware issue
18:06 scr267 ah right
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18:08 rubenwardy tenplus1: yet I've had the motherboard and touchpad replaced
18:08 rubenwardy there's literally no more hardware to replace
18:08 tenplus1 hi kaeza
18:09 tenplus1 sounds like a refund and new laptop is in order
18:09 scr267 tenplus1: hmmm i would hope dell would do that... :-/
18:16 nerzhul CWz as many players are playing for long time game it's not really a beta
18:16 nerzhul we don't drop data
18:16 tenplus1 hi nerzhul
18:18 Fixer nerzhul: playing what?
18:19 tenplus1 playing mt
18:19 Fixer and what beta?
18:19 CWz I think minetest came a very long way since 0.4.7(the first version i played)
18:20 CWz i think minecraft is starting to catch up now, with the features they added recently
18:21 tenplus1 they are noticing what players want and slowly adding them to mc...
18:21 CWz Those Monsters!
18:21 tenplus1 lol
18:21 CWz i wonder if Jeb and other others know about minetest
18:21 tenplus1 more than likely
18:22 CWz i wonder what they think
18:22 tenplus1 microballs has to think about the new HyPixel game now and compete against that
18:22 tenplus1 hence the new updates
18:23 CWz Hypixel might kill minetest too
18:23 tenplus1 depends how easy it is to mod and add things :)
18:23 Fixer minetest community is   t       i          n         y , nobody will notice apart from few geeks
18:24 rubenwardy hypixel won't kill it
18:24 Fixer and some mobile players
18:24 rubenwardy hypixel is overhyped
18:24 tenplus1 lol yeah
18:24 Fixer also, you can't really kill minetest as long as minecraft is also popular
18:24 Fixer some FOSS terrorists want OSS alternatives
18:24 tenplus1 I prefer Minetest because it's light on resources and easy to program mods
18:25 Fixer yeah
18:25 CWz Minecraft is easy to make mods for if one knows the java
18:25 tenplus1 *shudder* java
18:25 Fixer we are joking about VanessaE FAAAAAAAAAAT Dreambuilder modpack? Now see real FAT: Minecraft modding: 4GB minimum RAM allocated, 200 mb in size, 5 minutes of load time...
18:25 scr267 LOL
18:25 Shara knowing and liking... are different :P
18:26 tenplus1 hi Shara
18:26 * Shara also shudders
18:26 Shara Hi ten
18:26 Fixer starting up minecraft modded is like starting another fat OS, but on really slow hard-drive
18:26 tenplus1 hell, some of the games played in yogscast videos takes 10 mins to load they are so huge
18:26 Fixer so you wait, wait, wait, progress bars everywhere
18:27 scr267 We have daemons written in Java, which unlike other services constantly need to be rebooted due to memory leaks... granted its probably not Java's fault per say... but...
18:27 scr267 rebooted=restarted
18:27 scr267 Anyone play with go?
18:27 CWz Daemons? someone call the priests
18:27 tenplus1 seen Go but never tried it
18:28 CWz what is go
18:28 tenplus1 googles programming language
18:28 Fixer it is like starting linux on really old PC, you watch tons of sysvinit messages, but not for 30 seconds, but for 300 seconds, and you are presented with MinecrafT GUI, also (had to close browser before starting it)
18:28 tenplus1 https://golang.org/
18:29 Fixer tenplus1: only sad part about minetest is that OOM shit, and AIDS formspecs
18:29 tenplus1 oom is luajit issue
18:29 tenplus1 that needs looked at
18:30 tenplus1 but a few forum entries giving ways to stop it happening when making custom map stuff
18:31 Fixer gc64
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18:31 tenplus1 hi aerozoic
18:32 aerozoic wazup tenplus1 !
18:32 tenplus1 :P
18:33 aerozoic hey tenplus1 i was wondering if you know why penguins can't be fed?
18:33 tenplus1 they can be fed ethereal raw fish or animals mob fish :)
18:35 tenplus1 will ne4ed to find something better for them to eat when no fish available
18:36 aerozoic tenplus1, i should have been more specific, i added "fishing:fish" to the list of follow items but it doesn't work
18:36 tenplus1 hrm, checking
18:37 aerozoic tenplus1, also penguins also seem to self heal instantly
18:37 aerozoic oops too many "also"s
18:38 tenplus1 is working ok here for fish
18:38 Rafi59 Hi
18:39 tenplus1 in the penguin's mob definition it's:   follow = {"ethereal:fish_raw", "fishing:fish"},
18:47 aerozoic tenplus1, did u check the instant self heal issue?
18:48 tenplus1 explain how they self heal ?
18:48 aerozoic punch a penguin, see the health drop and then instantly restores.
18:49 tenplus1 itdoesnt here
18:49 aerozoic i think something screwy is going on, all i've done is change the follow items.
18:49 tenplus1 I punch, it stays hurt... I leave area of map and return, it's still hurt
18:49 tenplus1 are you using latest mob api or custom one ?
18:49 aerozoic it's been a couple months since i pulled an update
18:50 aerozoic nothing custom
18:51 tenplus1 I placed 3 penguins, punched each so they had 1, 2 and 3 HP... left area for 10 seconds... reutrned and they still had 1, 2, 3 hp
18:53 aerozoic ok i'll just wipe the mod and reinstall it, see what happens.
18:53 tenplus1 you dont have to wipe, just update api :)
18:53 tenplus1 updarte mobs redo
18:53 aerozoic oh u think being a couple months outdated would cause issues?
18:53 tenplus1 it shouldnt
18:55 tenplus1 testing current api
18:59 tenplus1 tamed mobs remember all their settings
18:59 tenplus1 generated mobs have a tendency so reload settings when you leave an area and return
18:59 tenplus1 could be that ?!?!
19:00 tenplus1 if you have remove_far_mobs on then when you leave an area it'll remove the mob, but when you return it could generate a brand new mob with new settings
19:03 aerozoic the instant heal that i see is just that, instant, no walking away.
19:04 tenplus1 I definitely dont see that happening
19:04 tenplus1 they stay hurt when I'm around them
19:10 rubenwardy holy what
19:10 rubenwardy https://i.rubenwardy.com/Mizzy.png
19:10 rubenwardy random string gen made a kinda word
19:10 tenplus1 ??
19:10 rubenwardy that file name comes from a random string generated
19:11 tenplus1 lol
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19:26 tenplus1 o/ kaeza
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19:31 tenplus1 hi ssieb
19:33 tenplus1 nite all o/
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19:51 Fixer oh
19:51 Fixer you reminded me to check CDB tab and also check smth ingame
19:51 Fixer rubenwardy: openbox?
19:51 rubenwardy ?
19:52 Fixer nevermind
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20:33 ircSparky do you need to do anything with mtdbot and the discord bot other than put the token and channel id in the mtdbot congif
20:34 ircSparky mtdbot is starting up and reading server chats and such, but there is no bot in my discord. it also keeps creating and removing clients, not sure exactly what that means, but it dosnt look normal
20:34 ircSparky https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9BXbxHzwmS/
20:46 kaeza Good $PART_OF_DAY.
20:48 rubenwardy "Good "
20:50 ircSparky ruben did you set up the discord bot for the ctf channel?
20:50 rubenwardy I use a discord to IRC bridge
20:50 rubenwardy https://github.com/reactiflux/discord-irc
20:52 ircSparky ok
20:53 kaeza Blah, seems I missed 10+1.
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22:33 Fixer rubenwardy: but is there a irc to discord bridge? i neeed it
22:34 Fixer also, that does not require discord acc
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23:17 Fixer if only minetest had ropes and deepness meter
23:22 Fixer just add one oerkki and dungeon master and BOOM
23:22 Fixer just one step
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23:59 Fixer VanessaE drem surv is slow AF
23:59 Fixer max_lag 4+

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