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| 00:43 |
ChimneySwift |
anybody got any recommendations for a cheap-ish multi-purpose VPS? (web server or 2, couple of small private game servers) |
| 01:17 |
sniper570 |
ChimneySwift: I use dat > https://www.scaleway.com |
| 01:22 |
ChimneySwift |
thanks sniper570 |
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| 06:01 |
jas_ |
the fire mod's fire sounds play positionally using `to_player', i think that means the sound is only played for the client specified? i'm wondering if playing the sound individually for the various players is better than playing the sounds attached to objects in and around the fire. just a thought. i heard entities, though, are just as heavy on the server as players anyway. |
| 06:01 |
* jas_ |
goes back to experimenting |
| 06:05 |
jas_ |
it appears omitting `to_player' and relying only on `pos' sets the sound playing at that location. if it turns out it plays for all connected client, which i think it might, then is that better than looping through and updating the sound for each player on globalstep? |
| 06:06 |
jas_ |
(playing the sound once at a position that clients can hear if they're within max_hear_distance, versus playing the sound multiple times for all players. just thinking out loud, i will do experiments some day and report back.) |
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| 07:07 |
jas_ |
pasted from wrong channel: ye using pos only and omitting to_player plays the sound positionally for all connected clients |
| 07:30 |
ChimneySwift |
if the option is to play the sound at a position with max_hear_distance or to use a globalstep to play for each client, do the first. if you can avoid globalstep its usually better |
| 07:32 |
ChimneySwift |
and players are entities, which is why they're generally just as heavy. though some entities aren't as bad for the server because they don't need to be updated, like static item entities |
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| 07:59 |
jas_ |
fire is using globalstep i think. |
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| 10:06 |
DI3HARD139-m |
ChimneySwift SoYouStart is really good. Kimsufi is good too but its Network traffic is a bit of hit n miss in Europe. |
| 10:12 |
VanessaE |
I use SoYouStart. |
| 10:12 |
DI3HARD139-m |
Same |
| 10:13 |
VanessaE |
good hardware, good prices, good network, good DDoS protection comes standard, and good customer service, too. I can't recommend them enough. |
| 10:13 |
DI3HARD139-m |
I usually average 1Gbps/256Mbps 0-3ms in Canada. |
| 10:14 |
DI3HARD139-m |
For network |
| 10:14 |
VanessaE |
of course, the pipe between here and France is dodgy sometimes. |
| 10:14 |
VanessaE |
(my server's in the BH...something datacenter) |
| 10:15 |
DI3HARD139-m |
BHS6 here |
| 10:15 |
VanessaE |
(no...not BH.... RB-something) |
| 10:15 |
VanessaE |
now I have to go look :P |
| 10:15 |
VanessaE |
RBX3 |
| 10:16 |
VanessaE |
I wonder how I'd go about upgrading the OS on that box. it's.... old. |
| 10:16 |
DI3HARD139-m |
Their pipe between NA and France is weird as you said. Scp maxes at 3MB/s between RBXx and BHS6. Still confused as to why. |
| 10:17 |
DI3HARD139-m |
Have fun if you do. I had to do a clean install to move from Ubuntu Server 14.04 to 18.04 |
| 10:17 |
VanessaE |
some days, I can push 400 kB/sec to the server. other days, I'm lucky to break 100. |
| 10:18 |
VanessaE |
(I have 213/12 Mbps service) |
| 10:18 |
DI3HARD139-m |
I tried switching the DNS servers to google but the server dropped off the datacenters network. It was weird. |
| 10:19 |
DI3HARD139-m |
200+150/13+13 here |
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| 10:21 |
DI3HARD139-m |
Hello there Fixer |
| 10:22 |
VanessaE |
DI3HARD139-m: eh. soon-ish, I may change servers. I'll worry about it when that time comes. for now, I just keep it up-to-date. |
| 10:22 |
VanessaE |
(well as up-to-date as it's willing to be :P ) |
| 10:22 |
DI3HARD139-m |
:P |
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| 11:06 |
tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 11:16 |
ChimneySwift |
hi tenplus1 |
| 11:17 |
ChimneySwift |
also thanks guys for your recommendations |
| 11:17 |
tenplus1 |
hi chimney |
| 11:18 |
tenplus1 |
?? recommendation ?? |
| 11:22 |
tenplus1 |
what did I miss :P |
| 11:25 |
ChimneySwift |
I asked if anyone had any recommendations for cheap multipurpose VPSes a bit ago |
| 11:27 |
tenplus1 |
ahhh, kewl |
| 11:28 |
tenplus1 |
was looking at the RockPro64 arm board (kinda like raspberry pi) which seems quite powerful and fast, and for $60 can run a server for only 4watts |
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| 11:28 |
tenplus1 |
hi fixer |
| 11:30 |
ChimneySwift |
oh wow nice |
| 11:37 |
tenplus1 |
https://www.pine64.org/?page_id=61454 if anyone is interested |
| 11:39 |
nerzhul |
i have the non pro version at home as a kubernetes node with 4GB ram with eMMC and yes it's better than RPI |
| 11:39 |
nerzhul |
pro version is not cheap but has very extended support |
| 11:39 |
tenplus1 |
hi nerzhul :) |
| 11:40 |
nerzhul |
hi tenplus1 |
| 11:40 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, pro version looks pretty good, fast enough for server use, 4gb memory is plenty and a decent emmc/ssd |
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| 11:42 |
tenplus1 |
been thinking of replacing my net-top with one :D |
| 11:46 |
BuckarooBanzai |
hi all |
| 11:46 |
tenplus1 |
hi Buckaroo |
| 11:47 |
BuckarooBanzai |
i'm having some issues with technic on my server :( |
| 11:47 |
tenplus1 |
running slow ? |
| 11:47 |
BuckarooBanzai |
i got lag spikes about 20 seconds high from the switching station abm... |
| 11:47 |
BuckarooBanzai |
Posted it on the forum already, sorry for asking again: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=333354#p333354 |
| 11:48 |
tenplus1 |
checking |
| 11:48 |
BuckarooBanzai |
is that a "normal" behavior? |
| 11:49 |
tenplus1 |
it's keeping the area loaded into memory as well as running the machine and what's connected to it... can become very intensive |
| 11:50 |
BuckarooBanzai |
hmm, thought about that too and set the force_loaded blocks to 0 |
| 11:50 |
tenplus1 |
you can use the /powerctrl commant in minetest chat to enable./disable the abm and see how it runs without it |
| 11:51 |
BuckarooBanzai |
does every server-owner has this problem with technic? |
| 11:51 |
BuckarooBanzai |
*that |
| 11:52 |
tenplus1 |
things like technic and mesecons will always run slowly on a server with many players |
| 11:52 |
tenplus1 |
they work well singleplayer, but add a few extra to the mix and things really slow donw |
| 11:52 |
tenplus1 |
basic_machines and elepower seem to run a little better |
| 11:54 |
BuckarooBanzai |
as far as i know is the problem that huge networks don't perform well. how about limiting the amount of machines on a switching station? would that work? |
| 11:54 |
tenplus1 |
the less it has to work on the better, so yes it may help |
| 11:55 |
tenplus1 |
the switching station ABM is pretty intensive from what I can see |
| 11:55 |
BuckarooBanzai |
ok, i'll keep that in mind, thank you :) |
| 11:55 |
BuckarooBanzai |
and btw: you make awesome mods! :D |
| 11:55 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 11:55 |
tenplus1 |
thx |
| 11:56 |
tenplus1 |
community effort :D |
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lisac |
hey tenplus1 |
| 12:08 |
lisac |
:D |
| 12:08 |
tenplus1 |
hi lisac |
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| 12:20 |
tenplus1 |
hi T4im |
| 12:21 |
T4im |
hi :) |
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| 12:47 |
tenplus1 |
hi jas |
| 12:49 |
jas_ |
hi! |
| 13:18 |
tenplus1 |
lol, video player in mc... ahaha |
| 13:30 |
tenplus1 |
guy is good iwth modding |
| 13:31 |
Fixer |
minecraft is a new EMACS |
| 13:31 |
tenplus1 |
heh... |
| 13:31 |
Fixer |
tenplus1: https://www.planetminecraft.com/project/luckyblocks-datapack |
| 13:34 |
tenplus1 |
bookmarked, will check it out and see if I can add anything LD thx |
| 13:53 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: there' |
| 13:54 |
tenplus1 |
o/ Vanessa |
| 13:54 |
VanessaE |
..is a very rudimentary one on one of my servers |
| 13:54 |
VanessaE |
cheapie's building it |
| 13:54 |
jas_ |
no need to insult emacs |
| 13:54 |
VanessaE |
video player that is. it isn't nearly as fast as ^ that, owing to the limits of Lua, but it works. |
| 13:55 |
tenplus1 |
and with unifieddyes will prolly have more colours |
| 13:55 |
VanessaE |
no need for UD, but sure (256 colors) |
| 13:55 |
tenplus1 |
yay |
| 13:56 |
VanessaE |
besides ^^ that one is a cheat. it's pre-rendering the video as stacked "frames" stored elsewhere in the world. |
| 13:59 |
* tenplus1 |
imagines the RIAA knocking on Vanessa's server after playing pirated movies in hidden cinema rooms on server :P |
| 14:02 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 14:17 |
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| 14:20 |
tenplus1 |
wb |
| 14:23 |
ANAND |
Thanks, and hi :) |
| 14:25 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
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| 14:34 |
tenplus1 |
hi mister |
| 14:34 |
Mr_Pardison |
'ello |
| 14:47 |
tenplus1 |
lol... hi benrob |
| 14:47 |
benrob0329 |
Hi tenplus1 |
| 14:50 |
tenplus1 |
nice screeny :) |
| 14:50 |
benrob0329 |
Why do things that should be static pages require JS to do anything? |
| 14:50 |
tenplus1 |
if possible avoid using js altogether |
| 14:51 |
T4im |
it sounded like they already know that and just got frustrated because so many pages enforce it anyway :x |
| 14:51 |
tenplus1 |
heh |
| 14:52 |
benrob0329 |
GUIs: Hey guys using static definitions makes building apps easier. |
| 14:52 |
benrob0329 |
Web: DYNAMIC EVERYTHING |
| 14:52 |
T4im |
like gitlab for what it's worth |
| 14:52 |
tenplus1 |
*shudder* dont like gitlab |
| 14:52 |
benrob0329 |
This tbh |
| 14:52 |
T4im |
it won't let you display a file without it :s |
| 14:52 |
benrob0329 |
Its the one reason I may move from Gitlab |
| 14:52 |
T4im |
unless opening it raw ofc |
| 14:53 |
tenplus1 |
I'm on notabug.org because it's fast/simple to use and not heavy on js |
| 14:53 |
benrob0329 |
For what I'm doing, the site shouldn't need scripts, then again Github shouldn't either |
| 14:54 |
T4im |
github works pretty well without javascript |
| 14:58 |
T4im |
it's not like their software suddenly starts sucking just because they were bought by ms :x that probably will have to take some time to creep in first :p |
| 15:00 |
tenplus1 |
little changes bit by bit :P |
| 15:01 |
celeron55 |
ms is fairly well meaning compared to most, but very incompetent |
| 15:01 |
celeron55 |
(hi) |
| 15:02 |
tenplus1 |
hi celeron |
| 15:03 |
T4im |
it might very well depend on whether ms plans to keep them woking autonomously or tries to merge them into ms |
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tenplus1 |
wb behalebabo |
| 15:20 |
behalebabo |
ty |
| 15:20 |
VanessaE |
ARGH |
| 15:20 |
tenplus1 |
Mobs Redo API, Monsters, Animals, Horse and NSSM all have new releases on git |
| 15:21 |
tenplus1 |
brb |
| 15:21 |
VanessaE |
is this a mintest_game bug? dark green dye + wool = green wool (NOT dark green wool) |
| 15:21 |
Mr_Pardison |
seems legit :P |
| 15:22 |
Shara |
Doesn't happen for me |
| 15:23 |
VanessaE |
hm. must be a unified dyes bug. |
| 15:24 |
VanessaE |
probably that excolor/unicolor bullshit. |
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| 15:28 |
VanessaE |
nope, it ain't unified dyes |
| 15:28 |
VanessaE |
it doesn't do that unicolor/excolor thing anyone. |
| 15:28 |
VanessaE |
anymore* |
| 15:28 |
VanessaE |
but dark green dye still has it set. |
| 15:32 |
VanessaE |
groups = { |
| 15:32 |
VanessaE |
excolor_green = 1, |
| 15:32 |
VanessaE |
this is the problem def item |
| 15:33 |
VanessaE |
because (not dark) green will take ANY green in that group. |
| 15:34 |
tenplus1 |
0.4.17 or 5.0 VanessaE ? |
| 15:34 |
VanessaE |
0.4.17.1 |
| 15:35 |
VanessaE |
it works fine in minetest_game, but not with dreambuilder, or on my skyblock server. |
| 15:35 |
tenplus1 |
unicolor and excolor was removed in 5.0 dev... sadly that crap still exists in 0.4.17 and below |
| 15:38 |
VanessaE |
there are no references to "basecolor" or "excolor" in any mod I run on the Skyblock server... and only stainedglass still uses "unicolor" (for some unused glass crafts)... |
| 15:41 |
VanessaE |
ok, it ain't UD, just checked with only it and mtg. |
| 15:43 |
tenplus1 |
use the dye mod from 5.0 and see if that helpos |
| 15:44 |
VanessaE |
G*d damn it. Moreblocks is the fault. |
| 15:44 |
VanessaE |
Just tried with only Moreblocks and no other mods enabled. |
| 15:44 |
VanessaE |
Calinou ! |
| 15:46 |
VanessaE |
though I fail to see how. there are no basecolor, unicolor, or excolor references in the mod. |
| 15:46 |
tenplus1 |
checking |
| 15:48 |
tenplus1 |
weird, only reference to dark_green in moreblocks is the stairsplus registration: https://github.com/minetest-mods/moreblocks/blob/846214993ff6502632808806d68263c16f98105c/stairsplus/registrations.lua#L101 |
| 15:49 |
VanessaE |
yeah, I'm looking at that now. |
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tenplus1 |
o/ mister |
| 15:51 |
tenplus1 |
strange, Xanadu uses moreblocks and dary green wool works ok when crafting |
| 15:52 |
* VanessaE |
sighs |
| 15:53 |
* VanessaE |
wipes out ~/.minetest/mods and tries again |
| 15:54 |
VanessaE |
http://i.imgur.com/qhYG5nU.png |
| 15:55 |
VanessaE |
definitely a conflict somewhere between moreblocks and mtg. |
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VanessaE |
^ that is mtg, moreblocks, and nothing else. |
| 15:56 |
tenplus1 |
so weird |
| 15:56 |
VanessaE |
and I just re-confirmed the rotation bug, too |
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| 15:57 |
garywhite1 |
Well, idk why I got dropped |
| 15:57 |
tenplus1 |
wb gary |
| 15:57 |
VanessaE |
I am 100% positive, without any doubts whatsoever, that moreblocks is the only mod that's loaded in this test map. |
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garywhite |
Just to clarify, 0.4.17.1 now is only supported on Windows 7 or higher, right? |
| 16:07 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/minetest-mods/moreblocks/issues/130 |
| 16:12 |
VanessaE |
no idea, gary. |
| 16:17 |
tenplus1 |
this dye bug is confusing, cant find anything in moreblocks that causes it |
| 16:17 |
VanessaE |
neither can I. |
| 16:18 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/minetest-mods/moreblocks/blob/master/stairsplus/registrations.lua#L109 |
| 16:18 |
VanessaE |
except possibly thid |
| 16:18 |
VanessaE |
this( |
| 16:18 |
VanessaE |
opkdjeadoi[hfohsdaoho's |
| 16:19 |
VanessaE |
last time I tried to do something like that in another mod, things got all wonky. |
| 16:29 |
garywhite |
As I was gonna say before, has anyone else noticed that the number of players has been going down lately? |
| 16:29 |
VanessaE |
yes. |
| 16:31 |
garywhite |
There used to be 400 players online at any time, at this moment it's below 300 |
| 16:38 |
sofar |
summer time and vacation period are likely high population times |
| 16:38 |
sofar |
right now we're in school time? |
| 16:39 |
sofar |
unsure of long term trends, though :) |
| 16:41 |
garywhite |
Well, to try to boost numbers, I (finally) updated the old MT download on Download.com to 0.4.17.1 instead of the 0.4.15 that was on the site |
| 16:42 |
garywhite |
Cause it says since 0.4.15 was posted, 5000+ downloads were made from there |
| 16:42 |
garywhite |
& 0.4.15 was posted very late in its life before 0.4.16 |
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Fixer |
some popular minetest server were closed as well |
| 17:07 |
Fixer |
servers* |
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Krock |
hi tenplus1 |
| 17:13 |
tenplus1 |
hi Krock |
| 17:13 |
tenplus1 |
hows things :) |
| 17:26 |
* VanessaE |
quietly slides a merge commit in front of Krock ;) |
| 17:27 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 17:30 |
tenplus1 |
Lucky Blocks updated... added a wad of new blocks... is there any blocks or mods that anyone wants me to add ??? |
| 17:31 |
Shara |
tenplus1: all of them :) |
| 17:32 |
tenplus1 |
lol, hi Shara :P |
| 17:32 |
Shara |
You're welcome to think up things for any of mine you didn't include yet :P |
| 17:33 |
tenplus1 |
I think i've added the abri one's already |
| 17:33 |
tenplus1 |
will double check |
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* VanessaE |
pokes Calinou with a clock and calendar :P |
| 17:36 |
VanessaE |
(since he has no time :P ) |
| 17:36 |
* tenplus1 |
initiates Ground Hog Day for issues and pulls |
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tenplus1 |
o/ srifqi |
| 17:42 |
srifqi |
\o tenplus1 |
| 17:42 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 17:42 |
srifqi |
It's been long time since I'm in IRC. |
| 17:43 |
srifqi |
since last time* |
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* Krock |
slides a force push to VanessaE |
| 17:43 |
VanessaE |
oh yeah? |
| 17:43 |
* VanessaE |
counters with a git submodule. |
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tenplus1 |
lolol |
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* benrob0329 |
counters with adblock and noScript |
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benrob0329 |
Calinou: fun fact: vavoom detects my laptop's accelerometer and let's me play Doom via tilting it |
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tenplus1 |
hi ssieb |
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ssieb |
hi |
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tenplus1 |
nite folks :) |
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jas_ |
once minetest.sound_fade(handle, step, target) is used on a sound handle, that (sound) handle can no longer be stopped with minetest.sound_stop(handle). my concern is that if a sound is looping, and set to fade to zero, it is actually playing indefinitely just inaudibly. i'm theorizing. |
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