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IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2018-10-07

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09:43 Tenplus1 hi folks
10:11 VanessaE hiu
10:11 VanessaE hi*
10:11 Tenplus1 hi Vanessa
10:11 Tenplus1 how's the bee mod working out now ? less laggy ?
10:12 VanessaE it's much better
10:12 Tenplus1 sweet :P
10:15 Tenplus1 ooh, I should add lucky blocks for it
10:16 VanessaE ?
10:17 Tenplus1 if anyone runs lucky block mod then the bee's mod will add a few to the very long list of blocks :) special item drops etc. maybe a bee attack
10:17 VanessaE ah.
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10:32 Tenplus1 hi calcul0n
10:33 calcul0n hi
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10:34 Tenplus1 o/ fixer
10:35 rud0lf isn't calculon a robot from undertale?
10:37 VanessaE Futurama.
10:38 VanessaE star of the show "All My Circuits", within the cartoon.
10:39 Tenplus1 lol yeah
10:40 VanessaE I shouldn't know that, btw :P
10:40 Tenplus1 we all have hidden secrets :PPP
10:40 * Tenplus1 loves cartoons also
10:41 calcul0n lol
10:42 VanessaE I love cartoons, especially long-running series.  Most favorites are in the 1965 to about 1995 range, plus a few modern things of course.
10:43 * VanessaE is a binge watcher :)
10:44 Tenplus1 ehehe, 80s and 90s toons were great
10:44 VanessaE the early to mid 90's sucked for cartoons though
10:44 VanessaE all that forced education content and the death of the saturday morning cartoon block
10:44 Tenplus1 lol
10:45 Tenplus1 was the old bugs bunny and tom & jerry that got me into classical music.. :P
10:45 VanessaE no, seriously.  that crap made otherwise good cartoons unwatchable the second time around.
10:46 VanessaE like "Captain Planet".  love it during first-run.  now, it's just crap.  preachy.  unenjoyable.
10:46 VanessaE loved*
10:46 Tenplus1 agree'd... even heman went that way at the end
10:47 VanessaE that one, I have mixed opinions of, but yeah.
10:47 Tenplus1 any favourite toon ? something you remember fohdly
10:47 VanessaE (same for Thundarr the Barbarian)
10:47 Tenplus1 *fondly
10:47 VanessaE favorite? hm...
10:48 calcul0n in the 80's we had a tv show with such crapy cheap mangas
10:48 VanessaE the original "Scooby Doo, Where Are You?" I guess.
10:48 calcul0n without them we woudn't know people like Miyazaki or Takahata today
10:48 Tenplus1 :P that was funny...  being in UK we had many puppet shows on tv also....
10:49 Tenplus1 calcul0n: battle of the planets was good....  and starfleet/terrorhawks
10:49 VanessaE though Futurama ranks very high, if only for one reason:  Fry's genuine, innocent affection for Leela (especially as depicted in the series finale).
10:49 Tenplus1 aw man the finale almost had me in tears
10:50 Tenplus1 and just so we're on topic... these should be made into mods at some point :P *cough* paramar
10:50 Tenplus1 *t
10:50 VanessaE pfft
10:51 Tenplus1 :P
10:51 VanessaE that last episode did have me in tears.
10:51 Tenplus1 not many cartoons can do that to me... heh...  a few anime also
10:52 VanessaE well that last episode has them living out what, 60 more years together?
10:52 Tenplus1 and just when you thought it was about to end, the professor appears :D
10:53 VanessaE yep.
10:53 VanessaE I wonder if they'd consider a reboot or just revival?  (one of the last lines in the episode made room for a reboot)
10:53 Tenplus1 adventure time also
10:53 VanessaE never watched it.
10:54 VanessaE otoh, Big Hero 6, PPG... love those :)
10:54 Tenplus1 adventure time is really good, surreal but the stories sometimes hit you in the heart
10:54 VanessaE (Hm, both are on hiatus for the season apparently)
10:55 Tenplus1 I do recommend Adventure Time though :)
10:56 VanessaE eh..
10:56 Tenplus1 as it progresses you see it getting dark in certain areas
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10:56 Krock hi Tenplus1
10:56 VanessaE I'd say it looks childish, but then again I enjoyed Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, so....
10:56 Tenplus1 hey Krock
10:57 Tenplus1 it does look childish, that's just the animation style, but some good stories/episodes
10:57 VanessaE (still, a walking handheld game?  (looks like a classic gameboy))
10:57 Tenplus1 beemo :P
10:57 VanessaE BMO*
10:57 VanessaE (see, I'm not *totally* clueless :P )
10:57 Tenplus1 ehehehe
10:57 Tenplus1 you get his backstory in there as well...
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11:58 Tenplus1 hi chimney
11:58 ChimneySwift heyo tenplus1
12:03 longerstaff13 eyo eyo eyo peoples
12:03 Tenplus1 hi longer
12:04 longerstaff13 'ow ya doin'
12:05 Tenplus1 :P
12:05 Tenplus1 checking out ROCKPro64 boards to see if they can easily run minetest server
12:11 Tenplus1 https://www.pine64.org/?page_id=61454
12:27 longerstaff13 lol
12:27 longerstaff13 Tenplus1: I used to run a server off of this:
12:27 longerstaff13 Client: HexChat 2.14.1 • OS: Ubuntu "bionic" 18.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) 3205U @ 1.50GHz (798MHz) • Memory: Physical: 7.5 GiB Total (5.4 GiB Free) Swap: 2.0 GiB Total (2.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 80.9 GB / 493.9 GB (413.1 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation HD Graphics @ Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Host Bridge -OPI • Uptime: 3h 36m 17s
12:28 Tenplus1 :P nice
12:28 Tenplus1 xanadu started on an old Intel Celeron D
12:28 longerstaff13 lol
12:30 longerstaff13 this laptop may have a weak CPU but it's actually surprisingly fast on MT
12:30 longerstaff13 that;s the GPU though
12:30 Tenplus1 running a server using only 3watts would be great though :D
12:30 longerstaff13 lol yeah
12:31 Tenplus1 could set up a rack of mini arm boards and rent them out for use elsewhere :D
12:32 longerstaff13 XD
12:35 xerox123 o/
12:35 Tenplus1 hi xerox
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12:37 longerstaff13 Tenplus1: do you run a server from home?
12:37 Tenplus1 hi aerozoic
12:37 Tenplus1 longer: not I, but shinji runs xanadu from his home in the US
12:38 longerstaff13 ah ok
12:38 aerozoic hi Tenplus1
12:38 Tenplus1 o/
12:41 xerox123 yay for Shinji
12:47 Fixer adventure time is dea
12:47 Fixer d
12:47 Fixer MAKE A MOVE
12:47 Tenplus1 the series had a conclusion
12:47 Tenplus1 any episodes after that are just for fans :D
12:48 rud0lf is there a place when you can find/post snippets for minetest?
12:49 Tenplus1 code snippets or images/videos ? and yes, forum.minetest.net lets you post them all
12:53 Tenplus1 o.O
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13:32 Tenplus1 o/ Darcidride and Gael-de-Sailly
13:32 Gael-de-Sailly hi
13:34 Darcidride Hi
13:51 xerox123 yay! roots of polynomials homework :D
13:51 xerox123 /s
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14:34 Tenplus1 laters all :P
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14:59 IhrFussel It's not safe to modify player stuff when the player leaves it seems...I mean modifying multiple things
15:01 IhrFussel The engine should keep the player object for the entire callback...or am I missing something?
15:03 rubenwardy need some brains to pick
15:03 rubenwardy I'm not sure what to call my modding book given that it's not just modding
15:04 rubenwardy this is for a physical copy
15:06 rubenwardy my main target audience could be schools
15:08 Krock IhrFussel: it is safe to use the leaveplayer callback
15:09 Krock but leaveplayer does not seem to be executed in singleplayer for some reason
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15:22 IhrFussel Krock, but my server crashed cause of leave player...it was in the middle of a function that gets called
15:22 IhrFussel Suddenly "player" was nil
15:29 shivajiva I see that a lot, player object disappears but we have lots of examples of functions where the first check is for the player object suggesting it's been an issue
15:30 IhrFussel lua confuses me A LOT right now..it tells me something is nil inside a certain function...but the line I get is from ANOTHER function
15:30 shivajiva yea :)
15:30 * rubenwardy sighs
15:31 shivajiva you have to trace around it a bit
15:31 IhrFussel The line I get doesn't even use "player" >> minetest.set_player_privs(key, privs)
15:31 shivajiva ruben: I need more context to even start suggesting names
15:32 Krock rubenwardy: Minetest Guide Book
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15:32 shivajiva like how is it more than modding?
15:32 rubenwardy https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/en/basics/getting_started.html
15:32 rubenwardy https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/en/games/games.html
15:33 rubenwardy is a book for Minetest developers (as in users)
15:33 IhrFussel Minetest Developer Guide
15:34 rubenwardy maybe
15:34 rubenwardy the issue with Developer is that it may imply core developer
15:34 rubenwardy I was thinking   "Making with Minetest"   or "Developing with Minetest"
15:34 rubenwardy because this book is both for modders of existing games and maker of new ones
15:35 rubenwardy traditionally you do the former before the latter
15:35 Shara Not many people reache the latter :P
15:35 Shara reach*
15:35 shivajiva 'Game Development with Minetest'
15:35 rubenwardy well, it
15:35 rubenwardy well, it's supposedly for the latter
15:35 rubenwardy it being Minetest
15:36 rubenwardy maybe our branding is just stupid
15:36 Shara Yup
15:38 shivajiva lol that flattened it
15:39 IhrFussel Alright it was my fault
15:40 IhrFussel I copy&pasted the function plus variable which was not "player" in this case
15:40 IhrFussel Still weird that the error happened at that line...why not at player:set_attribute()??
15:42 rubenwardy https://i.rubenwardy.com/YC2Sb.png
15:43 Shara Death by green!
15:43 rubenwardy place holder
15:43 rubenwardy lol
15:43 Shara "Creating mods and Games ..." sounds better
15:44 rubenwardy Create?
15:44 Shara Creating
15:44 rubenwardy hmm
15:44 rubenwardy oh I see
15:44 Shara and drop the "new"
15:44 rubenwardy yeah
15:44 rubenwardy done
15:51 rud0lf rubenwardy: will the course have pictures?
15:51 rubenwardy the front cover will have pictures
15:52 rubenwardy probably a background and maybe 3 images
15:52 rud0lf wow
15:52 rud0lf :p
15:52 rubenwardy and the book has some pictures throughout where relevant
15:52 rubenwardy why wow?
15:52 rud0lf some plot twist?
15:52 rud0lf just being stupid on purpose, sorry ;)
15:54 rubenwardy \o/
16:19 xerox123 who's going to freenode live this year?
16:20 rubenwardy me, Shara, and Jordach
16:20 xerox123 what was the demographic of people there? like 18-24-ish?
16:21 rubenwardy it was quite mixed
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20:41 Fixer i'm so annoyed with this 1 block floating bases from dirt in the middle of water
20:42 Fixer hometown is insanely laggy for me these days
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