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00:01 zorman2000 I'm (very) slightly tempted to tour the HUD code... but I know it will not be pleasant :)
00:03 zorman2000 Well, thanks all for your help, need to go, bye!
00:03 zorman2000 Keep up the good work!
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08:33 MinetestBot tenplus1: Sep-29 20:37 UTC <VanessaE> That ABM is causing lag spikes.  "5 to 30" seconds meaning the server deadlocks for that time.
08:34 tenplus1 o/ folks
08:36 VanessaE greetings
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08:37 tenplus1 hi fussel
08:39 tenplus1 Mobs_NPC updated, added self.npc_drops and self.igor_drops for trade items so they can be changed within mods
08:43 IhrFussel Hello tenplus1 and the others
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08:59 tenplus1 wb calcul0n
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09:37 Krock hi tenplus1
09:37 Krock good morning btw :D
09:37 tenplus1 hey Krock, how's you ?
09:38 Krock fine, thanks :D successfully migrated the website now
09:38 tenplus1 which one ?
09:38 Krock http://krock-works.16mb.com/ -> https://krock-works.uk.to/
09:38 Krock setting up redirects now
09:39 tenplus1 nice one :)  wait, there's a flash decompiler ??? how's that work
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09:39 Krock it parses the bytecode
09:40 Krock and uses debug symbols to resolve variable names. then it injects new code by translating it back to bytecode
09:40 tenplus1 would be creat if we had a flash > html5 converter :D
09:40 Krock there is..
09:41 tenplus1 o.O
09:42 Krock https://developers.google.com/swiffy/
09:42 tenplus1 hehy
09:42 Krock err
09:43 Krock well, there are also surely other applications which attempt to do it
09:44 tenplus1 a flash standalone player would be handy for the many games online
09:51 Krock there is.. at least for Windows
09:53 tenplus1 I think Samorost2 tgame has a standalone player in linux :D
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10:33 tenplus1 wb chimney
10:36 xerox123_ Slept in >•<
10:37 tenplus1 -10 points for xerox, tardiness :P   heyas
10:38 xerox123_ Got maths hw to do now
10:38 tenplus1 eek, have fun
10:39 ANAND maths hw = Great way to start a Sunday :D
10:48 xerox123_ ?
10:52 longerstaff13 lol
10:52 tenplus1 hi longer
10:52 longerstaff13 mornin tenplus1
10:53 longerstaff13 I see a ChimneySwift!
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11:17 tenplus1 wb
11:18 longerstaff13 what's Fixer fixing now then? :P
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11:52 ChimneySwift i see a longerstaff
11:52 longerstaff13 meow
11:52 tenplus1 lol
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11:54 ChimneySwift lol
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12:00 longerstaff13 http://www.speedtest.net/result/7678936760 <- what happened to my speed :(
12:00 * tenplus1 spreads longer's speed on his bagel and adds salmon
12:01 longerstaff13 lol
12:01 tenplus1 what was it before ?
12:01 longerstaff13 50 down, 9 up
12:19 Krock longerstaff13: still nice spesc
12:19 Krock *specs
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12:34 longerstaff13 Krock: lol
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12:48 tenplus1 hi aerozoic
12:48 aerozoic hey tenplus1
12:56 ChimneySwift better than my occasionally 4KB/s down XD
12:56 tenplus1 4kb down ? you on a 56k modem ?
12:56 ChimneySwift nope
12:56 longerstaff13 lol
12:57 ChimneySwift I have 4G in a suburban area with coverage from 3 surrounding towers
12:57 ChimneySwift goes to show how fantastic those towers are
12:57 longerstaff13 :P
12:57 ChimneySwift granted, it's not all the time, but still lol
12:59 Krock TIL 4G stands for 4kb/s      /s
12:59 longerstaff13 ChimneySwift: move to the UK, many towers for different networks here :P
13:00 tenplus1 I can typically get 18mb down using mobile data
13:00 longerstaff13 I'm on Vodafone UK, can get 20 Mbps down and 16 Mbps up from that
13:01 longerstaff13 apparently anyway
13:01 ChimneySwift what a great idea longer why didn't I think of that before
13:01 longerstaff13 lol
13:01 tenplus1 if the plan was unlimited I would be easier using my mobile as a hotspot :D
13:02 longerstaff13 :P
13:02 ChimneySwift we're on Vodafone AU and the service is trash lol. we have about 20GB/month
13:02 ChimneySwift lol
13:03 ChimneySwift we have ~350ms pings, which is to be expected I guess. one of my friends is in the NT and has ~800ms pings
13:04 longerstaff13 oof
13:04 ChimneySwift yay lol
13:09 longerstaff13 I'm still registered on my old sim card provider, EE
13:10 * longerstaff13 messes around with it on his old phone
13:10 tenplus1 am on GiffGaff, pay as ya go monthly for £5... am happy with them
13:10 longerstaff13 not bad
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13:27 tenplus1 o/
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14:00 Peppy hi
14:00 tenplus1 o/ Peppy
14:01 Peppy i'm working on a public mines auto reset mod
14:02 tenplus1 have an admin switch, a node that can be punched by certain players or privs only that regenerates a point below it
14:04 Peppy i'm trying to do this with no admin interaction
14:04 tenplus1 if you put it on a timer then players could easily get trapped and die
14:05 Peppy ho, I didn't think about that :/
14:05 tenplus1 and they would get pretty pissed losing all their stuff by getting trapped :D
14:06 Peppy maybe get players in the zone and delay reset if any
14:06 tenplus1 you could easily make a button and a special priv to give to your trusted players/admin that can be punches to eithe regen area or place a huge schematic full of stone/ores
14:06 Peppy I was planning to us /deleteblocks
14:06 Peppy use*
14:07 Peppy i'll stick to the button if i can't find anything else
14:07 tenplus1 :P
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14:15 Peppy mmm, getting players that are in the area sounds bad too
14:16 Peppy the button will do the trick, thanks !
14:16 tenplus1 plus you could build a proper mine and have layers with smaller /deleteblocks to handle... less laggy :D
14:18 Peppy those players do empty giant mines so fast, this would require huge building
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14:19 tenplus1 I use the button method to regenerate the lucky block arena and have 4x differnet arena schematics that can be placed... they're quite huge and only players with 'limit' priv can punch it
14:20 Peppy we use the same :)
14:20 Peppy but /deleteblocks is not about placing schems, it's way faster :)
14:21 tenplus1 true
14:22 calcul0n but with deleteblocks won't the mine be exactly the same each time?
14:23 tenplus1 you'd be easier teleporting (as admin) to a specific spot and regenerating the mines every month
14:23 Peppy it will, but that's supposed to be newbies mine, so, it's not a problem...
14:23 calcul0n i see
14:24 Peppy tenplus1, we do that untill now, it's a pain
14:24 Peppy as it requires to place a schem for the mine's spawn house every time
14:25 tenplus1 how big an area do you regen ?
14:26 Peppy i don't regen anything yet, i guess this would be at least 200 blocs in each direction
14:26 tenplus1 that would lag the game for a bit and prolly end up kicking players
14:27 Peppy i'll try local but i guess deleteblocks is not hungry
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14:31 tenplus1 hi raven
14:31 Raven262 Hi ten
14:32 tenplus1 :P
14:40 IcyDiamond why cant we use wallmounted on mesh drawtype
14:40 IcyDiamond at least i cant get it to work
14:43 IcyDiamond wait nvm
14:43 IcyDiamond i think there was something else wrong
14:43 IcyDiamond whatever
14:43 tenplus1 make paramtype2 = "facedir",   and on_place = minetest.rotate_node,   that wortks
14:45 IcyDiamond is there a way to generate nodes in caves only and make them cling to the nearest wall
14:46 Peppy tested, "/deleteblocks here 200" is  far less CPU intensive than "/emerge here 200" and only takes a few seconds
14:46 tenplus1 5.0dev has new mapgen decorations that could prolly do that, but you could always use on_generate to scan for nodes, check for a space and place an item
14:47 Peppy at first, I thought it wasn't working since the cpu was not stressed
14:50 Peppy I wish rollback were as fast :D
14:50 tenplus1 that's why I disable it
14:52 Peppy well too bad, this prevents games from using it in the gameplay
14:52 Peppy I guess this would require RAM loaded rollback database
14:53 IcyDiamond https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_18-09-30-17:52:58.png not exactly what i wanted
14:53 IcyDiamond XD
14:53 tenplus1 you would have to add a facedir check in there also for walls :D
14:54 IcyDiamond using decorations here
14:55 tenplus1 ohh
14:55 IcyDiamond https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_18-09-30-17:55:10.png oops
14:55 tenplus1 looks like mardi gras has come early to the caves :D
14:56 IcyDiamond XD
14:56 IcyDiamond how do i get param2 on these things
14:56 Peppy ...or mosquito attack xD
14:57 tenplus1 what kinda crystals are they ?
14:58 IcyDiamond well it seems i can have random param2 but not.. what i want
14:58 Peppy they quite look like our axinite crystals, they're from mese_crystals I guess ;)
14:59 IcyDiamond they are magic crystals from magicalities
14:59 IcyDiamond a semi secret project of mine
14:59 IcyDiamond XD
14:59 tenplus1 jello crystals, with ALL the flavours :D
15:01 IcyDiamond dammit
15:01 tenplus1 om nom nom's his way underground :D
15:04 IcyDiamond can i use minetest.find_nodes_in_area in on_generate?
15:05 tenplus1 https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/ethereal/src/master/mapgen.lua#L740
15:05 tenplus1 that's how I generate illumishrooms in Ethereal mod
15:17 IcyDiamond is the radius param in find_node_near nodes or what
15:17 IcyDiamond cuz it aint work
15:17 IcyDiamond XD
15:19 IcyDiamond wait it does work
15:19 IcyDiamond just other if statement failed
15:19 IcyDiamond yay!
15:19 IcyDiamond awesome
15:20 tenplus1 eehehe
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15:30 tenplus1 wb
15:31 IcyDiamond can i add hud only when a tool is selected
15:33 tenplus1 you would need a constant check to see what player is holding and use that
15:33 tenplus1 globlastep, every 1 second, check get_wield_item and show/remove hud
15:33 IcyDiamond oh jeez
15:33 IcyDiamond that doesnt sound pretty
15:35 tenplus1 unless you select the tool and on first use set the hud and start a timer... if not used within 30 seconds remove hud
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15:41 tenplus1 wb Krock
15:41 Krock ty
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16:12 tenplus1 hi gael
16:12 Gael-de-Sailly hi tenplus1
16:13 Gael-de-Sailly you could replace me by a bot that answers "hi tenplus1" each time you greet me XD
16:13 tenplus1 lol
16:14 tenplus1 hows your weekend coming along ?
16:15 Gael-de-Sailly oh very nice
16:15 tenplus1 kewl :)  has been a quiet day here
16:19 rdococ meow
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16:19 tenplus1 wb fixer
16:20 tenplus1 ashaha, plugin not supported :)  hi rdococ
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16:22 rdococ tenplus1: if you don't have flash player then I suppose you could try to run it in the 3.0 beta, but that might have compatibility issues
16:22 tenplus1 is ok :P
16:23 rdococ https://beta.scratch.mit.edu/#246917461 <- There are issues with how the blocks appear because of differences in font, but it still seems to work fine
16:23 ShadowBot rdococ: Error: Delimiter not found in "HTTP Error 404: Not Found"
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16:29 IcyDiamond https://i.lunasqu.ee/replacement-focus-test.mp4
16:30 tenplus1 replacement wand, nice :D
16:33 IcyDiamond im gonna attempt to do the tunneling wand focus that thaumcraft had
16:33 IcyDiamond XD
16:34 tenplus1 is thatthe one that digs a 3x3 flat area ?
16:34 IcyDiamond no, it creates a temporary tunnel through the ground
16:34 IcyDiamond xD
16:34 IcyDiamond or walls
16:35 tenplus1 oh, how long does that last ?
16:35 IcyDiamond i dont know what it was called there
16:35 IcyDiamond a few seconds
16:35 tenplus1 phasing through solid objects :D
16:35 IcyDiamond ye
16:35 IcyDiamond i guess ill have to use voxelmanip
16:35 IcyDiamond it preserves metadatas right?
16:36 IcyDiamond if i set to air using voxelmanip
16:36 tenplus1 I think you have to save metadata seperately
16:38 tenplus1 worldedit doesnt handle metadata when copying areas or moving
16:44 Krock yes, it preserves metadata
16:45 Krock also param1 and 2
16:45 tenplus1 is this a 5.0 thing ?
16:45 Krock huh
16:45 Krock it preserves the data at the *old position* in case you thought otherwise
16:46 tenplus1 just curious why worldedit can clone an area but wont copy across metadata contasined within
16:46 Krock well, it takes a lot of time
16:50 xerox123 seems servers at the top of the list always have a duplicate entry
16:50 xerox123 LS-W has 2, Blocky Survival has two every now and then, CTF had two earlier
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16:55 Krock xerox123: no dupes on the HTTP page
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16:56 Shara The duplicates can be anywhere. You are just more likely to notice them when they are at the top
16:58 tenplus1 o/ shara
16:59 Shara Hi Ten
17:06 IcyDiamond shit, lua panic
17:06 IcyDiamond lmao
17:10 IcyDiamond area:iterp(minp, maxp) makes me run out of mem huh
17:10 IcyDiamond why
17:10 IcyDiamond the difference between minp and maxp is not significant at all
17:10 IcyDiamond how odd
17:11 tenplus1 you running any other voxelmanip mods?
17:11 IcyDiamond uh no?
17:11 tenplus1 can u show me current code
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17:17 IcyDiamond aha, so when minp and maxp are reversed, it starts infinitely looping
17:18 IcyDiamond need to improve my direction based code
17:18 Krock for x=maxp.x,minp.x,-1 do   works for me
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17:45 IcyDiamond i dont understand why set_data isnt working
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18:05 tenplus1 laters all
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20:06 rubenwardy !tell Krock https://i.rubenwardy.com/thX9X.png
20:06 MinetestBot rubenwardy: I'll pass that on when Krock is around
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