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* Megaf |
silently waves |
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Megaf |
!server Megaf |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/20, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.17.1 / minetest | Ping: 13ms |
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Megaf |
It's alive! |
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timdorohin |
Megaf: hi |
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IcyDiamond |
Is it possible to make an ore generate exclusively next to a node underground, like lava sources, but not inside it |
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IcyDiamond |
maybe i could do it with lbms |
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rubenwardy |
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CA+55aFy+Hv9O5citAawS+mVZO+ywCKd9NQ2wxUmGsz9ZJzqgJQ@mail.gmail.com/ |
| 13:52 |
rubenwardy |
Email from Linus regarding the maintainer summit mistake |
| 13:53 |
rubenwardy |
"I am not an emotionally empathetic kind of person and that probably doesn't come as a big surprise to anybody." |
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rubenwardy |
omg |
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rubenwardy |
he's apologised for his attacks |
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rubenwardy |
he's also on hiatus |
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timdorohin |
rubenwardy: rip linux( will move to OpenBSD now( |
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timdorohin |
SJW:1 Linus:0 |
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rubenwardy |
....no |
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VanessaE |
GAH! |
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VanessaE |
I hate this "SJW" shit |
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rubenwardy |
nothing SJW about this |
| 14:05 |
VanessaE |
always used by people who can't stand change-for-the-better.... |
| 14:05 |
rubenwardy |
SJW is a white girl with purple hair who can't even program complaining about the use of master/slave in code |
| 14:06 |
VanessaE |
yeah but I see it being applied to *everyone* who seeks change in something |
| 14:07 |
VanessaE |
however, |
| 14:08 |
VanessaE |
Motherboard says the person who started that IS in fact a programmer, for Red Hat. |
| 14:09 |
VanessaE |
(at least in Python which is where I first heard of it) |
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nerzhul |
what is SJW ? |
| 14:10 |
VanessaE |
social justice warrior |
| 14:11 |
VanessaE |
a bullshit term created by someone who doesn't like change |
| 14:11 |
rubenwardy |
social justice warriors do suck though |
| 14:11 |
nerzhul |
okay |
| 14:11 |
nerzhul |
ty |
| 14:12 |
rubenwardy |
the extreme of them take offense on behalf of other people who aren't really offended |
| 14:12 |
rubenwardy |
neo-feminist and SJW? That's a powerful mix |
| 14:12 |
rubenwardy |
This is a dangerous topic |
| 14:13 |
VanessaE |
"The term's negative use became mainstream due to the 2014 Gamergate controversy," |
| 14:13 |
VanessaE |
"emerging as the favoured term of Gamergate proponents to describe their ideological opponents.[1] " |
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rubenwardy |
to this day, I still don't know what gamergate is |
| 14:14 |
VanessaE |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate_controversy |
| 14:14 |
VanessaE |
in short, a major sexism and harassment controversy |
| 14:17 |
rubenwardy |
heh |
| 14:17 |
VanessaE |
when that broke, suddenly everyone who had a problem with the sexism that arises from a men-centric industry (don't argue, you know very well that gaming is) became a SJW - us vs. them |
| 14:17 |
VanessaE |
and thus the SJW shitstorm was born. |
| 14:17 |
rubenwardy |
I hate gaming and gamers anyway |
| 14:17 |
rubenwardy |
O_O |
| 14:18 |
VanessaE |
...says the person who is one of the most prolific contributors to a gaming community :) |
| 14:18 |
rubenwardy |
oh sheiz |
| 14:20 |
VanessaE |
personally, most of the overt stuff -- like busty in-game NPCs -- doesn't bug me. |
| 14:22 |
VanessaE |
on the other hand, if a modern game of some kind plays a woman off as some helpless waif, whether some kind of damsel-in-distress, or as a lead character, THAT I have a problem with |
| 14:23 |
VanessaE |
(old games that aren't kept alive, who cares - that's in the past and the past is where any criticism of them belongs) |
| 14:26 |
VanessaE |
of course that goes double for the reality surrounding the game - the community and coders. |
| 14:27 |
VanessaE |
you see, THAT is what feminism is supposed to be - justice and equality between genders where possible, no more, no less. |
| 14:29 |
rubenwardy |
That's traditional feminism, yeah |
| 14:29 |
timdorohin |
VanessaE: welp, there is some thing called "genre conventions", i.e. i can't imagine mario without princess-in-distress |
| 14:29 |
rubenwardy |
I agree with that |
| 14:30 |
VanessaE |
timdorohin: yeah, that fits in with my "past" remark. |
| 14:31 |
VanessaE |
now if they wanted to let Peach "grow up" into a strong character, they could easily do so. Let Toad be the person-in-distress :P |
| 14:34 |
rubenwardy |
sounds like an idea for a remix |
| 14:35 |
VanessaE |
or even Yoshi for that matter |
| 14:36 |
VanessaE |
(given how little stress he can take in the games) |
| 14:40 |
Jordach |
VanessaE: wasn't that kinda the plot of the Peach game on DS |
| 14:40 |
Jordach |
i can't remember the name of the top of me head |
| 14:43 |
VanessaE |
no idea. |
| 14:43 |
VanessaE |
I'm not familiar with most of the Mario franchise |
| 14:43 |
VanessaE |
just SMB on the old NES, and SM World on the Wii. |
| 14:44 |
VanessaE |
point being, these haters-of-change like to get all up in arms, when the actual change would be so minor as to fade into the noise if not for those haters. |
| 14:45 |
timdorohin |
games was, well, the last strong bastion of sexism, it's obvious that when you're cornered you will fight back with all your strength. |
| 14:45 |
VanessaE |
but because in their mind the thing being changed is somehow fundamental, they go ballistic and start calling everyone SJW, feminazi, etc. |
| 14:46 |
VanessaE |
timdorohin: sure, except that aside from the raw level of strength, women are no less capable of a good battle then men. |
| 14:47 |
VanessaE |
(and some female body builders would disagree with that exception, too :P ) |
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VanessaE |
if I pick up a BFG 10000, I'm pretty sure I can lay waste to my surroundings just as thoroughly as Arnold Schwartzenegger could in his heyday :) |
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Jordach |
VanessaE: >BFG10k |
| 14:50 |
Jordach |
i see you've not seen Doom: Eternal's trailer |
| 14:50 |
VanessaE |
biggest game gun I could think of :P |
| 14:53 |
timdorohin |
The main problem is the methods of SJW, they try to oppress "sexist" gamedev instead of compete with it using own, same or better quality games |
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* timdorohin |
still have butthurt after ME:A |
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VanessaE |
timdorohin: oppress how? got a cite? |
| 14:54 |
VanessaE |
(I'd almost bet it didn't start off that way) |
| 14:58 |
timdorohin |
In any war only the results matters, not the reasons |
| 14:58 |
VanessaE |
I still want to know. |
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VanessaE |
I'm guessing someone told this dev that he's being an asshole toward some undeserving group, he refused to change or apologize, and it snowballed from there. |
| 15:01 |
VanessaE |
if that's the case, yeah, let him join the dinosaurs./ |
| 15:06 |
timdorohin |
VanessaE: welp, my Engrish strikes again, i meant game developing in general, not in person. Just saw some shitstorms in mass-media about sjw vs game/studio |
| 15:07 |
VanessaE |
ah, well the same applies. |
| 15:10 |
VanessaE |
the world has changed. those who won't clean up their act need to go away. |
| 15:11 |
VanessaE |
hell, if even Linus "fuck you, nVidia" Torvalds sees it as a valid problem, how can you argue? |
| 15:12 |
VanessaE |
"Now who can argue with that? I think we're all indebt to Gabby Johnson for stating what needed to be said. I am particulary glad that these lovely children are here today to hear that speech. Not only was it authentic frontier gibberish, it expressed the courage little seen in this day and age. " |
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VanessaE |
:) |
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Sokomine |
ah. saw that news article now. is it even a gender specific thing? sounds more like rough talk in general. males may feel insulted the same way |
| 15:39 |
VanessaE |
ah, she lives |
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Sokomine |
and: the goal ought to be that males and females and whatever are really treated equally, without regard to the gender. except where such things matter (i.e. when visiting a doctor) |
| 15:40 |
Sokomine |
partly :-) |
| 15:40 |
VanessaE |
in Linus' case, his own rough talk got out of hand and he realizes his fuckup. |
| 15:40 |
Sokomine |
ah. that's a good thing. hopefully he'll find a better way |
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Fixer |
rubenwardy: python also renames that slave word... Coinsidence? DON"T THINK SOOOo |
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rubenwardy |
help |
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rubenwardy |
I need a font |
| 16:34 |
Fixer |
ｗｈａｔ ｋｉｎｄ ｏｆ ｆｏｎｔ？ |
| 16:35 |
rubenwardy |
I'm going to be publishing the Minetest modding book, so a font for its print form |
| 16:35 |
VanessaE |
Liberation Sans Mono |
| 16:35 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 16:35 |
rubenwardy |
maybe |
| 16:36 |
rubenwardy |
a serif font is probably better, I'm not sure |
| 16:36 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: literally a book to hold in hand? |
| 16:36 |
rubenwardy |
yes |
| 16:36 |
Fixer |
try googling about that, mt-f is bad place for this, imo |
| 16:37 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: Century Schoolbook |
| 16:37 |
VanessaE |
I always liked that one. |
| 16:37 |
VanessaE |
but for G*d sakes, NOT TIMES [NEW] ROMAN! |
| 16:37 |
rubenwardy |
lool |
| 16:37 |
Fixer |
also, did someone said "fuck you, nVidia"? Because, Fuck You! Nvidia, and ATI, and miners, and other tulip nuts |
| 16:37 |
Fixer |
bring back good prices |
| 16:38 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: serious miners don't use GPUs :P |
| 16:38 |
Fixer |
1 year later... still waiting for proper prices to buy a gpu |
| 16:40 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: is not publisher knows the best font for you? |
| 16:40 |
VanessaE |
woof. R9 280x costs more now than when I bought mine O_o |
| 16:41 |
VanessaE |
($280) |
| 16:41 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: R9 280 is like oooooooold (in hipsters words), why it costs so much? |
| 16:41 |
VanessaE |
fuck if I know, it's not even good at mining Etherium, let alone other crypto |
| 16:42 |
VanessaE |
so it's really only good for its original use, as a proper graphics card. |
| 16:44 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: strange, card from 2014... they are still not out of stock? |
| 16:44 |
Fixer |
damn ATI needs to go back to _gaming_ market |
| 16:44 |
VanessaE |
what can I say, it's a good GPU but there are better ones. lots of new old stock |
| 16:45 |
VanessaE |
and tthere were quite a few rebrands like XFX |
| 16:46 |
Fixer |
sad, back to the topic |
| 16:57 |
Fixer |
#serversidePlayerMovement PR |
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IcyDiamond |
my server is back up |
| 17:18 |
IcyDiamond |
!server elepower |
| 17:18 |
MinetestBot |
IcyDiamond: Elepower Playground Server (5.0.0) | 195.201.143.173:30001 | Clients: 2/15, 0/2 | Version: 5.0.0-dev / minetest_game | Ping: 11ms |
| 17:19 |
IcyDiamond |
and the double hearts bug still hasnt been fixed |
| 17:19 |
IcyDiamond |
dammit |
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Krock |
IcyDiamond: PRs are still pending |
| 17:21 |
Krock |
it's the client which does this btw |
| 17:21 |
IcyDiamond |
thought so |
| 17:22 |
Krock |
the code is legacy now anyway so it can be removed without any side-effects |
| 17:27 |
IcyDiamond |
whats the 0/2 mean in the !server response |
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xerox123 |
IcyDiamond: average of 0 clients, peak of 2 |
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IcyDiamond |
ah okay cool |
| 17:34 |
IcyDiamond |
how could I query a server's status |
| 17:35 |
IcyDiamond |
oh no |
| 17:39 |
VanessaE |
cleaned up. |
| 17:40 |
tumeninodes |
Thank you, and hi Vanessa |
| 17:40 |
VanessaE |
yw, and hi. :) |
| 17:40 |
IcyDiamond |
does minetest server have something like minecraft does where it listens on a port that you can query |
| 17:41 |
VanessaE |
not precisely, IcyDiamond but you can use luasocket for external comms |
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longerstaff13 |
ih |
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IcyDiamond |
fsr one of my crafting recipes doesnt work |
| 18:20 |
IcyDiamond |
but it shows up properly in craft guide |
| 18:21 |
IcyDiamond |
https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_18-09-17-21:21:05.png |
| 18:22 |
IcyDiamond |
im so confused |
| 18:23 |
IcyDiamond |
https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_18-09-17-21:23:19.png just doesnt output anything |
| 18:27 |
Krock |
press the button to copy it into the crafting field |
| 18:27 |
IcyDiamond |
apparently cobble is not in group:cobble despite it showing up properly there |
| 18:27 |
IcyDiamond |
interesting |
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Andrey01 |
hi, i`ve started to advertise minetest on Reddit, only i can nothing post there of spamming problem, do i need to gain certain amount of posts to be able to d oit? |
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tumeninodes |
Andrey01 that seems a question better asked at Reddit |
| 18:47 |
Andrey01 |
to moderators? |
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* Sokomine |
throws the cobble away because it is cobble |
| 18:51 |
tumeninodes |
possibly https://www.reddithelp.com/ ? |
| 18:53 |
tumeninodes |
Sokomine, no likes these cobble |
| 18:55 |
Sokomine |
yes. poor cobble! still...hmmm...*throwing away cobble* |
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Krock |
aagh.. merge commits in pipeworks again |
| 18:56 |
Krock |
*cries* |
| 18:56 |
tumeninodes |
... it wasn't me :D |
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| 19:05 |
IcyDiamond |
mining in caves is scary with mobs_monster |
| 19:05 |
IcyDiamond |
these guys just sneak up on me and scare the living hell out of me |
| 19:07 |
Krock |
can confirm |
| 19:07 |
Krock |
DMs can at least be heard easily when they emit these fire balls |
| 19:07 |
Sokomine |
IcyDiamond: dms are pretty annoying in that regard. you may start out with a nice smooth cave...and then they start appearing and destroy the floor, ceiling and walls with their fire |
| 19:08 |
IcyDiamond |
yep |
| 19:08 |
IcyDiamond |
just as you guys said that one spawned in front of me |
| 19:08 |
IcyDiamond |
god damn it |
| 19:08 |
Sokomine |
he wanted to be eliminated quickly. large caves are only good for dm hunting... |
| 19:09 |
IcyDiamond |
You died. |
| 19:09 |
IcyDiamond |
oh well |
| 19:09 |
IcyDiamond |
he hits hard dammit |
| 19:10 |
IcyDiamond |
tenplus1 y u do dis |
| 19:11 |
IcyDiamond |
stone sword is not good enough |
| 19:15 |
IcyDiamond |
I absolutely love the caves in this game |
| 19:15 |
VanessaE |
dammit, missed |
| 19:15 |
VanessaE |
sorry Krock :) |
| 19:15 |
IcyDiamond |
they're so.. sexy |
| 19:15 |
IcyDiamond |
XD |
| 19:15 |
IcyDiamond |
smoooth |
| 19:16 |
IcyDiamond |
big |
| 19:16 |
IcyDiamond |
ok i might be going too far now |
| 19:16 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 19:16 |
tumeninodes |
ok..., stop..., this is getting weird |
| 19:17 |
IcyDiamond |
im so glad i still consider my mod "alpha" because im finding so many things i need to change |
| 19:17 |
IcyDiamond |
already done 3 hotfix commits |
| 19:17 |
IcyDiamond |
lel |
| 19:17 |
IcyDiamond |
havent really playtested it 'till now |
| 19:17 |
tumeninodes |
I was searching for some motivation to get some work done today...., so I began to meditate..., and fell asleep |
| 19:18 |
IcyDiamond |
:D |
| 19:18 |
IcyDiamond |
if anyone wants to play some 5.0.0-dev, join meh, please, im lonely |
| 19:18 |
IcyDiamond |
!server elepower |
| 19:18 |
MinetestBot |
IcyDiamond: Elepower Playground Server (5.0.0) | 195.201.143.173:30001 | Clients: 1/15, 0/1 | Version: 5.0.0-dev / minetest_game | Ping: 11ms |
| 19:19 |
IcyDiamond |
my anxiety tells me to stop plugging my stuff but my loneliness tells me do go on |
| 19:22 |
tumeninodes |
loneliness is an illusion |
| 19:22 |
Shara |
loneliness is 5.0 servers before 5.0 is released |
| 19:23 |
tumeninodes |
haha |
| 19:23 |
IcyDiamond |
but 5.0 is fuunnn |
| 19:23 |
tumeninodes |
that's bliss Shara..., not loneliness |
| 19:23 |
IcyDiamond |
it's so much better than .4.17 |
| 19:23 |
IcyDiamond |
despite the odd bug here and there.. |
| 19:24 |
IcyDiamond |
i went as far as to create auto compile scripts |
| 19:26 |
IcyDiamond |
well i guess i'll go to bed instead |
| 19:48 |
VanessaE |
sofar: *poke* |
| 19:57 |
sofar |
? |
| 19:57 |
VanessaE |
sofar: got a few feature requests for the node inspector. |
| 19:58 |
VanessaE |
but you've closed it to new issues :( |
| 19:58 |
sofar |
oh |
| 19:58 |
sofar |
you can make pull requests :D |
| 19:58 |
VanessaE |
no. :) |
| 19:59 |
sofar |
you don't want to, perhaps, but you can always make pull requests in github |
| 19:59 |
VanessaE |
but if you could fix this, https://imgur.com/a/Z9JXU2K and make it so that the inspector won't reveal private meta unless the wielder has sufficient privs or is the node's owner, that'd cover it. |
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sofar |
mebbe |
| 20:00 |
sofar |
I'll need to get to it later, busy few days ahead |
| 20:00 |
VanessaE |
ok. |
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