Time Nick Message 00:28 paramat oh ... it's an MT insult :) 00:29 paramat MC was started earlier 00:34 paramat and was much more popular so attracted more high quality builders 00:38 paramat however, a 128 node world height is .. pathetic ;) 00:39 paramat as is 256 00:39 Mr_Pardison over 30k is best :D 06:58 ANAND https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/7684/files#diff-ad60d65b34e16a3319296bb5d683acd6R2503 06:58 ANAND lol :) 08:35 Megaf Good morning all 12:13 shivajiva Megaf: well that makes sense, if space is an issue :) 12:17 shivajiva Hi longer 12:17 longerstaff13 o/ 13:23 Megaf Eh, #Minetest-Chat was removed from https://www.minetest.net/irc/ 13:29 Megaf tho I can't find the commit that changes it... 13:30 Megaf https://github.com/minetest/minetest.github.io/commits/master/irc.html 13:30 Megaf ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:33 Megaf that really doesnt make sense, https://github.com/minetest/minetest.github.io/blob/master/irc.html 13:33 Megaf it says the last edit was done by me, when I added #Minetest-Chat, but if you read the code the lines are not there? 13:33 Megaf rubenwardy ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ 13:38 rubenwardy I can't see you adding chat, only hub 13:38 Fixer "GitLab was co-founded by Dmitry Zaporozhets from Kharkiv, Ukraine, together with Sid Sijbrandij, from the Netherlands " 13:38 Fixer okaaay, did not know about that 13:39 rubenwardy https://github.com/minetest/minetest.github.io/pull/120 13:39 Megaf oh 13:39 Megaf maybe I never added chat 13:39 Megaf thanks rubenwardy 13:40 Megaf I could do with a new brain I guess 13:40 longerstaff13 can't we all :P 13:55 Megaf now, should we add #minetest-chat to the list? 14:11 tenplus1 hi folks :) 14:11 Megaf tenplus1: Hi there 14:11 tenplus1 o/ Megaf :P 14:12 tenplus1 https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/ambience <-- updated to 1.13, added sound set API :) 14:14 tenplus1 wb longer 14:15 longerstaff13-m1 No idea what happened there... 14:16 tenplus1 o.O 14:16 longerstaff13-m ./ns regain ftw 14:26 tenplus1 hi Krock 14:26 Krock hi tenplus1 14:26 tenplus1 ooh 1 second :P 14:26 tenplus1 ehehe 14:27 Krock Well, my enter bar went down at least two seconds before your message appeared 14:27 tenplus1 lol, here's your prize: https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/ambience (1.13 update) 14:28 Krock thx m8 14:28 tenplus1 finally gave Ambience an API to work with :) 14:28 Krock fresh API.. where are the docs? 14:28 tenplus1 in the mod 14:28 tenplus1 api.txt file with examples in soundsets.lua (defaults) 14:28 Krock ooh I see 14:29 Krock read that as "api.lua" and thought "well great, this is yet another 'read the source to get the docs'" thing 14:29 tenplus1 can add a set, remove a set and get set table... sets contain sounds, frequency played and function to check instance 14:29 IhrFussel Hey tenplus1, I just updated farming redo and noticed that you changed pumpkin_8 to the pumpkin block instead of a pumpkin looking node...I wonder why? 14:29 Krock set a set set set table set 14:29 tenplus1 hi fussel 14:30 tenplus1 works better fussel, and uses chopping board to cut into slices, same as melon and pizza on xanadu :D 14:31 Krock ♩♫♬♩ we are in Xaanaduuu ♩♫♬♩ A million lights are dancing ♩♫♬♩ 14:32 tenplus1 ehehe 14:32 Krock just ensure it's backwards compatible :D 14:32 tenplus1 is meant to be a rock group in USA 14:32 Krock I know :) 14:32 tenplus1 all same sound sets added, same /svol and /mvol commands work, only diff is API it uses 14:35 Krock I'd prefer having more commands bundled together and use subcommands rather than a command for each purpose 14:35 Krock /help gets veeery long to read on some servers, especially when worldedit_commands is enabled 14:36 tenplus1 yeah, the /mvol command can also be used to stop music that's playing at midnight :) set to 0 14:37 IhrFussel On my server /help all is 4 pages without WE commands xD 14:38 tenplus1 ekk, what commands have you added ? 14:40 Krock 4 pages of what 14:40 tenplus1 help commands 14:40 Krock yeah, but those are font size dependant 14:40 Krock to I wonder how he came to this number 14:41 Krock expecting something like a formspec backend for searching or something like that 14:47 IhrFussel Most of them are custom commands for custom server features: addshop, afk, allteleport, back, blockpms, build, catch, cok, fair, fixlba, fly, flysim, flytime, fun, go, goto, hide, hidepos... those are the ones until 'I' 14:47 IhrFussel Default commands excluded 14:48 tenplus1 lotta commands 14:49 Krock definitely needs grouping and a GUI backend. Don't let the eyes bleed by reading that list 14:50 tenplus1 would be nice 15:30 Megaf I just made a Ring acount... ring:Megaf 15:30 tenplus1 ring ? 15:31 Krock for edding 15:31 Krock +w 15:40 tenplus1 Megaf: is it the doorbell thing ? 15:41 Megaf https://ring.cx I think 15:42 tenplus1 ohhhhh, checking :P 15:43 Megaf I'm quite disapointed with it actually :P 15:46 tenplus1 how so ? 15:47 Krock Megaf: Yet Another Chat Application 15:49 Megaf tenplus1: interface sucks and it simply doesnt work 15:50 Megaf try to install it, and send a message to me 15:51 tenplus1 I'llpass... lol,will stick with irc :D 15:52 benrob0329 Krock: the point is that its got Voice/Video over IP, and is p2p 15:52 tenplus1 hi benrob... 15:53 benrob0329 So, not quite YACA, but since it doesn't seem to work for Megaf and I (for who knows what number of reasons) there isnt much point in using it atm 15:53 Krock benrob0329: I'm sure there are tens of apps which already do that 15:53 benrob0329 Krock: most are dead 15:53 benrob0329 Or unusable 15:56 Megaf skype 2.x used to be great 15:56 Megaf no Skype is unusable, even on my brand new phone with latest Android 15:56 tenplus1 most start off ok, then they add so much bloat it's unusable 15:56 Megaf s/no/now 15:58 benrob0329 I quite like Syncthing though 15:58 benrob0329 It works 15:58 Megaf it does :) 15:59 Megaf and it works well 15:59 Megaf it's just a bit complex to set up 15:59 tenplus1 hi Jordach 16:00 tenplus1 for a chat app to work ithas to be small, easy to use and setup and cross platform, like whatsapp 16:00 tenplus1 heh 16:02 benrob0329 Krock: no, its p2p 16:03 Megaf 17:00 for a chat app to work ithas to be small, easy to use and setup and cross platform, like whatsapp 16:03 Megaf the only real advantage whatsapp have over many others is that user doesnt need to set username and password 16:04 Megaf so we are free from all these stupid usernames and people forgetting passwords 16:04 Krock You don't need those either for apps which require you to have a phone number 16:04 Megaf Krock tenplus1 why you no -Chat? 16:05 Krock I prefer to drive offtopic here >:D 16:05 tenplus1 I try not to sit in multiple chat rooms, especiallyif most of the ppl are already here 16:05 Megaf it's not about people, it's about topic 16:05 benrob0329 tenplus1: honestly IRC is about that, its just that most clients are quite old 16:06 benrob0329 You can join most networks and just chat 16:06 tenplus1 have been on irc since the 90's :D 16:06 Megaf so have I :D 16:06 Megaf I even had my own IRC networks 16:06 Megaf and was IRCop of others 16:07 Megaf running my own server 16:09 Megaf KvIRC had it all 16:09 Megaf before it was cool 16:09 Megaf VoIP, P2P, File Transfer, Avatars and a lot more 16:15 benrob0329 tenplus1: its called DCC 16:15 benrob0329 But DCC is not standardized, flaky with modern ISPs, and insecure 16:16 Megaf nothing new DCC, was just created in 1991 16:17 Megaf I think the best protocol is XMPP 16:17 Megaf Google, Facebook and WhatsApp, all use a bit of XMPP under the hood 16:17 benrob0329 Meh, XMPP has its own problems 16:17 Megaf I have my XMPP server too 16:17 Megaf had* 16:18 tenplus1 xmpp is a good protocol to use, just need a decent gui for all platforms... 16:18 Megaf its was awesome because I could talk to people on Google Talk, Jabber,org and others from my server 16:18 benrob0329 Like that there are two standards for avatar, the "newer" one not even fully replacing the old and people sticking with one or the other 16:18 tenplus1 that's how Pidgin works for me and google :D 16:18 Megaf Whatsapp chat encrypt thing comes from XMPP 16:19 benrob0329 Or multi-user-Jingle sessions being a depredocated, WIP standard 16:22 tenplus1 been running ambience api for over 2 hours now and it's all working well... any other testers or recommendations would be welcome :D 16:23 Megaf actually we have two very good text/voip/video solutions 16:23 Megaf TOX and Telegram 16:24 Megaf there's also signal 16:25 benrob0329 Tox is mostly dead and/or buggy, Telegram is centralized and while claiming to have great encryption, fails to telegraph the fact that its only for special 1 on 1 chats 16:28 Megaf Signal for the win 16:31 * sofar spots Calinou on phoronix forums 16:32 tenplus1 lol, o/ sofar 16:32 tenplus1 did he comment on a good article ? 16:32 sofar KDE/Plasma on Clear Linux OS 16:33 tenplus1 ah yeah,saw that one :D 16:44 tenplus1 hi twoelk 16:45 twoelk o/ 16:51 tenplus1 hi gary 16:52 garywhite hi 11 16:52 Megaf L E T ' S C H A T 16:53 * Megaf hides 16:53 benrob0329 L E T ' S - C H A T 16:53 * benrob0329 hides 16:54 garywhite that's...not weird 16:54 tenplus1 heh 16:54 Megaf ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ 16:54 tenplus1 alienlanguage 16:56 Megaf greenblueyelloworangered 16:58 Megaf greenblueyelloworangered Say the word color not the word text nor background 16:58 Megaf Braincrash ^ ^ 16:58 sfan5 colors are disabled in this channel, so that doesn't really work 16:58 tenplus1 :P le puzzle 16:59 tenplus1 all I see is B&W :) hi sfan 16:59 Krock What 16:59 Krock if that's not green on black, then it's just striped without any message. mmh 17:00 Megaf eh, colours... https://i.imgur.com/LoHMDmW.png 17:00 Megaf why would you disable colours? Colours are fun 17:00 Krock Megaf: it works locally but others will receive a modified message 17:00 Megaf sfan5 mister s_nofun_5 17:00 Krock and this should be bold, italic and underlined 17:01 Megaf my whole life is alie 17:01 tenplus1 everything has been stripped fort me :P 17:01 Krock probably removed too; not sure. 17:01 Megaf yep, I see just normal plain text Krock 17:01 Megaf sad 17:01 Megaf in -chat life is more colourful 17:01 tenplus1 brb 17:01 * Megaf runs 17:01 Megaf welcome back tenplus1 17:01 Megaf got it 17:01 tenplus1 k,pasteit again plz 17:02 Megaf greenblueyelloworangered Say the word color not the word text nor background 17:02 Megaf that? 17:02 * Fixer spots sofar viewing calinou on phoronix forums 17:02 tenplus1 nup, still stripped... bah! 17:02 Megaf isn't my screenshot more fun? 17:02 tenplus1 heh 17:03 Megaf I spent like 10 seconds writing that colourful stuff for nothing 17:03 Megaf sad 17:03 Krock Megaf: it's a common trick to show up how much the visuals are weighted in our life 17:04 Megaf I read that twice and I still can't understand the sentense ^ 17:04 tenplus1 keepin it simple and easy to read here, but 16 colour console ansii/ascii has been around for a loooong time already 17:04 Megaf heck, My console can even play 1080p videos 17:04 Megaf and show webpages with images 17:04 Megaf true story 17:05 tenplus1 howwwww # 17:05 Megaf you just need framebuffer enabled in your kernel and boot, then you can use mpv or mplayer or other player to play videos and even see images 17:06 Megaf w3m-img and links2 browsers will show pages with images 17:06 Krock can you play Minetest in it? 17:06 Megaf you could if Minetest supported it 17:06 Krock just render OpenGL to terminal 17:06 * benrob0329 just got his Gitlab T-shirt in the mail 17:06 tenplus1 notabug.org all the way 17:06 Megaf meh 17:06 Megaf Megaf.Info Git Services for the win 17:06 tenplus1 heh 17:07 Megaf get a Megaf.Info t-shirt and I will be impressed 17:07 Megaf specially because there is none 17:07 Megaf should make a MegafServer tshirt tho 17:07 Megaf and ship to my 7+ year old players 17:08 Megaf I mean, people that has been playinng on my server for 7+ years 17:08 benrob0329 Megaf: it was free, because I've been on Gitlab before the MS Github buyout 17:08 Megaf eh, so was I 17:08 Megaf how can I get one? 17:08 Megaf oh wait, my Gitlab was selfhosted? Does it count? 17:09 Megaf I had a Gitorius as well before Gitlab bough it 17:14 tenplus1 Megaf: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=npibrl&s=9 17:17 Megaf doesnt work here 17:18 tenplus1 link or image ? 17:19 tenplus1 try this: https://imgur.com/nwbs0iV 17:23 tenplus1 wb aerozoic 17:24 aerozoic just a restart 17:26 tenplus1 :P 17:27 Fixer o/ 17:27 tenplus1 wb 17:27 Fixer never use tinypic, it is pos 17:29 tenplus1 imgur wouldnt accept image for some reason, had to make it png 17:31 Megaf lol, nice shirt :P 17:31 tenplus1 :P 17:34 tenplus1 if you wanna order it here's the link: https://www.rushordertees.com/design/#/?item=808&color=2202&askQuantity=false 17:43 Megaf I need chocolate 17:43 Jordach creme egg 17:43 tenplus1 mmm 17:43 * Megaf will go downstairs to make some cocoa milk 17:44 Megaf (That is, two ingredents, a lot of pure cocoa powder with some milk) 17:44 tenplus1 that's a very good idea... *checks for hot choccy& 17:44 Megaf Tesco cocoa powder by the way, every little helps :P 17:45 Megaf hey tenplus1, come to Dublin to spend a day, let's have a pint 17:45 tenplus1 *pint = hot choccy ??? 17:46 Megaf a pint of anything you want 17:46 tenplus1 ehehe 17:47 Megaf I could have a ping of white hot chocolate frull of cream 17:47 Megaf s/frull/full 17:47 tenplus1 oh man, sound soo evil, yet nice 17:47 Megaf and I mean it, a pint 17:47 Megaf I'd make one myself 17:47 * Megaf thinks about buying cream later 17:48 Megaf eh, I just remembered that a long while a go my mac warned me the battery was dead, empty 17:48 Megaf I had forgotten, better charge it 17:48 Shara white... hot chocolate >.> 17:49 Megaf Shara: calories of happiness 17:49 tenplus1 hi shar a:D 17:49 Shara Hi :) 17:51 * benrob0329 should make some homemade hot coco sometime 17:52 benrob0329 Or homemade ice cream, it is still summer after all :-) 17:52 Fixer burning summereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 17:53 Fixer it is over 9000*C here... :( 17:54 tenplus1 summer has left my neck of the woods, it's wet and windy now 17:54 * tenplus1 sips hot choccy 17:54 * Megaf is back with a ping of cocoa milk 17:54 * Megaf sips some 17:55 Megaf man, is that delicious 17:55 * Fixer sips air 17:55 tenplus1 Shara: got ambience api working finally 17:55 Shara Ohhhh?? 17:55 tenplus1 https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/ambience 17:56 Megaf eh https://i.imgur.com/KWQjgBz.png 17:56 tenplus1 nice one Megaf :P 18:04 tenplus1 :P 18:04 * Megaf LOLs with himself 18:04 Megaf https://i.imgur.com/FpdqWq8.png 18:05 tenplus1 hahaha 18:05 tenplus1 I can see you ordering some t-shirts :D 18:05 Megaf nah, but I got buyers for Megaf brand already 18:05 Megaf :O 18:06 tenplus1 I like the online t-shirt design and buy site :D 18:06 Megaf they are too expensive 18:08 Fixer hate that shit, when they load source page overloaded with s--- instead of actual mp4, f--- them 18:09 Fixer when someone dissallows hotlinking - first sign of bs 18:09 tenplus1 site design is a long lost art 18:09 benrob0329 Site efficiency is a long lost art 18:09 Megaf not my site... 18:10 garywhite Wasn't someone here talking about a MT merch site? 18:10 benrob0329 rubenwardy 18:11 xerox123 IhrFussel: my XP doesn't seem to increase on your server, Ive been level 3 14XP for about an hour now and been mining continuously 18:11 benrob0329 I should get some, that way the next time I visit Oregon sofar can have a better chance of spotting a wild benrob :PP 18:31 Megaf can Discord do this!? 18:31 Megaf CPU Dual Core Intel Core2 Duo P8600 (-MCP-) speed/min/max 798/798/2394 MHz 18:31 Megaf Kernel 4.9.122-megaf x86_64 Up 4d 2h 30m Mem 1048.3/3691.8 MiB (28.4%) 18:31 Megaf Storage 126.33 GiB (26.9% used) Procs 206 Client Quassel v0.12.4 inxi 3.0.20 18:31 Megaf no! It can no! 18:31 Megaf IRC FTW 18:31 Megaf that was a /inxi in Quassel 18:31 tenplus1 heh 18:32 Megaf and how many people have an OS running in their computers with their on name on it!? Uh? 18:32 Megaf I do! 18:32 Megaf Random Megaf is Random 18:33 tenplus1 how do you mean own name ? not a nick ? 18:34 Fixer what you say? 18:35 Megaf $ uname -a 18:35 Megaf Linux Aluminium 4.9.122-megaf #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Aug 20 18:32:55 IST 2018 x86_64 GNU/Linux 18:35 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1 -- GlowStone code by anonymousAwesome 18:35 Megaf kernel 4.9.122-megaf 18:35 tenplus1 ohh, personal kernel :D 18:36 Megaf so, I updated my server 18:36 Megaf and kept my old subgame 18:36 tenplus1 http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.17.11/linux-headers-4.17.11-041711-generic_4.17.11-041711.201807280505_amd64.deb my nick is in there a few times :DDDDDD 18:37 Megaf lol 18:38 Megaf so, Updated my server and now this happens https://i.imgur.com/IBI4iJO.png 18:38 Megaf ┻━┻ ︵ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ︵ ┻━┻ 18:39 tenplus1 woah ??? 18:39 tenplus1 what the hell 18:39 Megaf my reaction... 18:39 Megaf areas loaded... 18:40 tenplus1 did you find out what caused it ? 18:41 Megaf it looks like my old subgame is 99,9% incompatible with stable 4 18:41 Megaf everytime I update my server shit happens 18:41 tenplus1 werent you running 0.4.16 before ? 18:42 Megaf eh 18:42 Megaf lemme check 18:42 Megaf Minetest 0.4.17-dev-3d0617c (Linux) 18:42 Megaf that's what I had before 18:42 tenplus1 and it worked ? 18:43 Krock punch a node to see what it is 18:44 Megaf well, if I stop this new and restart the old it will work yes 18:44 Krock but it looks more like that your game is an empty directory 18:44 tenplus1 weird 18:44 Fixer subgames = games, use /mods folder 18:44 tenplus1 I checked all of the mods we run on server for the set_int issue and thankfully none were found, but am still wary of updating to 0.4.17-1 18:45 Krock most likely it's that. your game dir is wrecked, because "areas" loaded correctly 18:45 Megaf 2018-08-30 18:44:31: [Server] Item "default:leaves" not defined at position (-91,39,-22) 18:46 Megaf what do you see if you join mt.megaf.info 30003 ? 18:46 Megaf !server Megaf 18:46 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/20, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.17.1 / minetest | Ping: 13ms 18:46 tenplus1 checking 18:47 Megaf (I just switched to default minetest game with --gameid minetest) 18:48 tenplus1 fastest loading server ever, with all of 3 mods active :DDD 18:48 tenplus1 something is up with your [game] folder 18:49 Megaf minetest@Minetest:~/MinetestBin$ bin/minetestserver --terminal --gameid list 18:49 Megaf 2018-08-30 18:49:19: WARNING[Main]: Couldn't find a locale directory! 18:49 Megaf MegafXploreNext 18:49 Megaf minetest 18:49 Megaf minimal 18:49 Megaf minetest is a fresh minetest_game 18:49 Megaf for stable 4 18:50 Megaf oh 18:50 Megaf hold on 18:51 tenplus1 hi raven 18:51 Raven262 Hi ten 18:54 Megaf (I'm not balming Minetest this time) 18:54 Megaf (YET) 18:54 tenplus1 heh, am sure you'll fix it 18:54 Megaf since I had a higly custom subgame 18:54 Megaf highly* 18:54 tenplus1 that's why I tend to override mods instead of having a subgame, so many changes to take into account 18:55 Megaf I think I had the most vanilla highly customized subgame 18:55 Megaf because it looked like Minetest 18:55 Megaf but underhood is totally different 18:56 Megaf for instance 18:56 Megaf minetest@Minetest:~$ ls MegafServer/games/MegafXploreNext/ 18:56 Megaf game.conf minetest.conf 18:56 rubenwardy Compiling someone's kernel doesn't really count as having your name on it 18:56 Megaf inside my subgame there's only two conf files 18:56 rubenwardy You have your name on the build sure 18:56 Megaf right 18:56 Megaf are you jealous? 18:56 Megaf ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ 18:56 tenplus1 :P 18:57 Megaf I am actually Loughing Out Loud here 18:57 Megaf meh, laughing* 18:57 rubenwardy My Linux kernel contribution should be upstreamed in a few months 18:57 tenplus1 Xubuntu 18.10 is pretty good so far, testing :P 18:57 tenplus1 Minetest 0.4.17-1 in repo's 18:59 benrob0329 ReactOS is pretty bad so far, the boot disk blue screen upon exiting the bootloader lol 18:59 Megaf tenplus1: bit better https://i.imgur.com/EDAcABu.png 19:00 tenplus1 yay, default works again, just those pesky mods now 19:01 tenplus1 reactOs is kinda stripped... only thing I ever needed winblows for was the odd game, but thankfully Steam Beta lets you run them using proton within linux 19:02 benrob0329 But still with Wine problems 19:02 tenplus1 that's the thing, steam will tinker and tweak until it works properly :) that's the best part 19:03 tenplus1 they already have 100's of winblows games running fine :D 19:03 benrob0329 Well, as well as Valve ever gets anything working :P 19:03 benrob0329 Steam on Linux is already a bit of a mess tbh 19:04 tenplus1 has worked for me so far benbob :) 19:04 Megaf ok, lets add the mods now 19:04 Megaf one by one 19:04 Megaf first one, areas 19:04 benrob0329 tenplus1: it tends to work fine, except on setups where it doesnt 19:05 benrob0329 And you end up having to delete/patch some of steam's shipped libs, or go track down 32-bit dependencies 19:05 tenplus1 ubuntu already had the 32-bit depends ready for it 19:06 benrob0329 Yes but Steam is made for Ubuntu :-) 19:06 Krock waiting for Kernel 4.16.1 to finally use z3fold and lz4 for zswap 19:06 Krock better compression ratio apparently 19:06 tenplus1 what changes they make/add to ubuntu gets filtered to debian and other distro's through time 19:07 benrob0329 tenplus1: that depends, Ubuntu likes to attempt to reimplement the status quo 19:07 benrob0329 Mir, Snaps, Unity 19:07 tenplus1 I really did like Unity, then they replaced it with shitty gnome3 that's bloated and buggy 19:08 benrob0329 Well, Ubuntu's Gnome is bloated and buggy :P 19:08 Megaf meh, which one I use? https://github.com/minetest-mods/biome_lib or https://gitlab.com/VanessaE/biome_lib 19:08 Megaf and what about moretrees? 19:08 Megaf and what about plantlife? 19:08 benrob0329 tenplus1: Unity was just a less customizable Gnome3 tbh 19:09 tenplus1 vanessa's gitlab versions are more up to date 19:09 * Megaf using MATE 19:09 benrob0329 You can make Gnome3 act like Unity with Dash-to-dock and a theme 19:09 Megaf VanessaE: pingy 19:10 tenplus1 XFCE is better anyhoo :) works like a charm, and IceWM is being tested and runs smooth 19:10 Megaf mate and gnome 3 are the only ones that support all my keyboard keys 19:11 benrob0329 I have mixed feelings about XFCE 19:11 Megaf like keyboard backlight brightness and lcd screen brightness 19:11 Krock Megaf: maybe because mate is based on gnome 2 19:11 Megaf mate IS gnome 2 19:11 tenplus1 xfce keybindings are pretty good, and what isnt working can easily be added using gui 19:11 Megaf can anyone asnwer my question please? 19:11 Megaf and lets stop off topic 19:11 Megaf ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ 19:12 Megaf ^ ^ ^ no idea what that means but I like it 19:12 Megaf I aliased it to /run 19:12 tenplus1 I like it, cartoony 19:12 benrob0329 [Ominous tone] Megaf, There is only one person that can answer your question 19:12 Krock Megaf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXBqf4Gfuo0 19:13 benrob0329 The legendary VanessaE. 19:13 benrob0329 (Dun dun dunnnn) 19:13 Megaf awesome song 19:14 Megaf lol, Queen, Tiger, running 19:14 Megaf that clip was made for me 19:15 RoaryTiger reglnx Roary tiGEr LiNuX, if anyone ever wondered what reglnx stood for 19:15 RoaryTiger if you don't know that reglnx is then nevermind 19:15 RoaryTiger just one of the many nicks I use 19:16 RoaryTiger Microsoft iPad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9suMg_JI_yY 19:16 * RoaryTiger has to stop 19:20 RoaryTiger tenplus1: so, the keys to increase and decrease brightness stuff dont work here for some reason 19:20 RoaryTiger in XFCE that is 19:20 tenplus1 really ? cheking 19:20 RoaryTiger benrob0329: XFCE is fantastic, I mean, it was, now a days it got a bit bloated, using almost as much RAM as MATE 19:21 RoaryTiger and actually, now a dasy GNOME 3 is so stable and rock solid it takes LESS ram than MATE 19:21 RoaryTiger tho it needs more CPU 19:21 tenplus1 working ok here 19:21 benrob0329 Which should change because there is a huge CPU drop in the next version 19:21 Mr_Pardison \o tenplus1 19:21 tenplus1 could be your keyboard isnt setup 19:21 tenplus1 hi mister 19:23 RoaryTiger well, just saying it works on MATE and Gnome 3 out of the box 19:23 RoaryTiger I aint loosing my time thinkering with keyboard stuff 19:23 tenplus1 heh 19:29 tenplus1 funny thing is, when I test IceWM there's no keyboard manager at all, and the all just work ?!?! 19:32 * benrob0329 is sad that Linux is now mainstream enough to where to only get newbie results when searching using certain keywords 19:34 * Mr_Pardison sighs 19:34 RoaryTiger man, don't tell me about noob and keywords 19:34 tenplus1 lol 19:34 RoaryTiger have you ever tried to actually find an image of a LED! 19:34 RoaryTiger try! 19:35 RoaryTiger feel free to try led bulb, led lamp, led unit 19:35 Megaf !server Megaf 19:35 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/20, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.17.1 / minetest | Ping: 14ms 19:36 benrob0329 Megaf: the trick is to search "light emitting diode" 19:38 Megaf lamo 19:38 Megaf lmao 19:38 Megaf well 19:38 Megaf tenplus1: you were right, I'm slowly fixing everything https://i.imgur.com/zFVSDMl.png 19:39 tenplus1 yay 19:41 Megaf missing alias in default subgame? 2018-08-30 19:41:20: [Server] Item "fireflies:firefly" not defined at position (-6,4,0) 19:41 Megaf Shara 19:44 benrob0329 Megaf: fireflies were replaced by butterflies 19:44 benrob0329 But only in dev version I thought 19:44 * benrob0329 is not sure why fireflies were removed 19:45 sfan5 there's both fireflies & butterflies 19:45 sfan5 not sure why we have two 19:45 sfan5 oh well 19:46 benrob0329 sfan5: no fireflies were removed AFAIK, they weren't in the creative inventory anyways and they weren't spawning 19:46 sfan5 https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/tree/master/mods/fireflies ??? 19:47 Shara They were not removed. They're seperate mods because they're seperate. 19:47 * Shara shurgs 19:47 Shara or shrugs 19:47 Shara One of those 19:48 benrob0329 Odd then 19:48 Krock " They're seperate mods because they're seperate." please give me more of your life wisdom, Shara 19:48 benrob0329 Wait, weren't they getting merged into an insects mod or smth? 19:49 Krock benrob0329: I only remember a discussion about that; not a real change 19:49 Megaf og 19:49 Megaf oh 19:49 Megaf fireflies are not in stable! 19:50 Krock tenplus1: you were right, I'm slowly fixing everything 19:50 Krock said literally the same thing a few minutes before that 19:50 tenplus1 ehehehe 19:51 Megaf 19:54 heh, am sure you'll fix it 19:51 Krock also, fireflies are 5.0 contents 19:51 Megaf no you did now Krock 19:51 Megaf can anyone grab fireflies mod link github please? 19:52 Megaf and while you at it, can you get me butterflies with that please? 19:52 Megaf I will be editing my world.mt 19:52 Krock Megaf: oh, I thought you referred to the source of the problem; rather than "you're fixing it" 19:52 Shara Megaf: They don't fully work in current stable due to the y offset. 19:53 Megaf Shara: I have them working nicely on Megaf Server... 19:53 Krock just move that collision box a little 19:53 Megaf had* 19:53 Megaf I can just copy the old mod over tho 19:53 Shara Using the MTG fireflies mod in current stable would be all kinds of bad 19:53 Shara Yes, but you used my own personal version, not the MTG one 19:53 Megaf yep 19:53 Shara :) 19:53 Megaf will, will just keep using the mod I have then 19:54 Krock oh. fireflies are actually just nodes 19:54 Megaf cp -R ../MegafServer/mods/fireflies mods/ 19:54 Shara That's best, then come 5.0 time, you can switch to the MTG one (this is actually why it did not become an insects mod instead) 19:54 Megaf there 19:55 Shara Krock: they are plants :) 19:55 Krock they act like plants 19:55 Shara Hmm, strangely I didn't see other animated plants. 19:56 Megaf and first crash after update! 19:56 Krock they're kinda animated by shaders 19:56 Megaf 2018-08-30 19:56:07: ERROR[Main]: ModError: Failed to load and run script from /home/minetest/MinetestBin/bin/../mods/roads/streetsmod/init.lua: 19:56 Megaf 2018-08-30 19:56:07: ERROR[Main]: /home/minetest/MinetestBin/bin/../mods/roads/streetsmod/libs/smartfs/smartfs.lua: No such file or directory 19:56 Krock recursive clone 19:57 Shara What did you update, tiger? 19:57 Krock git submodule init 19:57 Megaf that happened after I added fireflies 19:57 Megaf :P 19:57 Megaf (true story tho) 19:57 garywhite I'm trying the HDX 32px, it makes a lot of stuff look more realistic, even the sun/moon 19:58 * benrob0329 remembers why none of his servers ever have a ton of mods on them 19:58 Krock benrob0329: you only need one modpack. dreambuilder. 19:58 Shara Megaf: did you move to current stable? 19:58 Megaf and I just proved that correlation is different than causation 19:59 Krock not meant serious tho 19:59 benrob0329 Krock: perhaps, but dream builder is huuuuuge 19:59 Megaf just because roads crashed when I added fireflies it doesnt mean fireflies are at fault 19:59 Mr_Pardison hopping be back l8r 19:59 Shara I switched only a couple of days ago, and only needed to update one mod so far 19:59 Megaf thanks Krock 19:59 * Mr_Pardison hands Shara a kitten 19:59 Megaf rm -rf roads and git clone --recursive --depth=1 fixed 19:59 Krock nice 20:00 Krock you could also fix it with git submodule * afterwards without cloning again FYI 20:00 Megaf because I use --depth=1 (which save billions of gigabytes) the submodule didnt work 20:00 Krock oh well then.. 20:00 Megaf !server Megaf 20:00 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/20, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.17.1 / minetest | Ping: 13ms 20:00 tenplus1 o/ amaz 20:00 Megaf tenplus1: it will take a heck lot longer now 20:01 Megaf well, not that long since Im using sofar 's mediaserver 20:01 Amaz Hi :) 20:01 Megaf Hi Amaz 20:01 tenplus1 :) 20:01 Krock hi Amaz 20:02 Amaz Hello Megaf, hi Krock :) 20:03 * benrob0329 should make a server at some point 20:03 Megaf There, enough of fixing for today https://i.imgur.com/3D3dgtI.png 20:03 Megaf benrob0329: please don't 20:04 Megaf Megaf Server is hiring, just join us 20:04 Megaf I still don't know how to fix this 2018-08-30 20:01:23: [Server] Item "plasticbox:slab_plasticbox_grey_1" not defined at position (-37,17,-21) 20:05 Megaf it broke a long time ago 20:05 Megaf with some update in teh circular saw 20:05 Megaf basically the circular saw change a lot of names 20:05 Megaf and now theres a lot of stuff it can no longer cut 20:05 Megaf it could cut plastic boxes, now it cant anymore 20:05 tenplus1 which is why I dont use it 20:06 Megaf my server predates your "which why I dont use it" 20:06 Megaf :P 20:06 Megaf them lovely fireflies https://i.imgur.com/fdsBTx3.png 20:07 sofar my media server? 20:07 sofar nearly forgot about it 20:07 Megaf :O 20:08 sofar lets see how much BW it's doing atm 20:09 Krock did you switch the plans recently because it pushed the limits? 20:10 Krock *Didn't 20:11 sofar yeah, like, 6 weeks back I think? 20:12 sofar it's doing about 2-3gb a day 20:12 sofar 800000 hits on sunday, lol 20:13 benrob0329 Megaf: Megaf server doesn't have enough uptime to be hiring :P 20:13 IhrFussel 2-3 GB a day sounds like almost nothing...my server (no media server used) reports several TB per month 20:14 sofar I get 5000-7000 hits per week for some hot media files 20:14 Megaf benrob0329 ( ͡° ʖ̯ ͡°) 20:15 sofar 5204 unique visitors in a week last week 20:15 IhrFussel Well it depends on which server downloads what media files 20:15 IhrFussel My media is ~ 45 MB 20:16 IhrFussel So when 25 new players download it I reached 1 GB already 20:16 Megaf thankfully I have a dedicated server and don't have to care so much about quotas 20:17 Megaf be back later, gonna make some popcorn with butter in the pan 20:19 tenplus1 om nom nom 20:25 tenplus1 nite folks o// 20:26 aerozoic If i put a mod in the worldmods folder, where does the minetest.conf go for that mod? 20:27 aerozoic or any mod in that folder. 20:28 Krock main minetest.conf file 20:28 Krock per-world settings do not exist yet 20:29 aerozoic oh crap 20:29 aerozoic how do i hide my password for the IRC mod then? 20:29 Calinou it ought to be settable using an environment variable… not sure if the mod supports that 20:30 Calinou 12-factor, you know :) https://12factor.net/config 20:37 Megaf ┬┴┬┴┤( ͡° ͜ʖ├┬┴┬┴ 20:39 rud0lf creepy 20:41 Megaf ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯ 20:41 Megaf ( ͡°( ͡° ͜ʖ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ʖ ͡°) ͡°) 20:41 Megaf (ノ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°ノ) ︵ ( ͜。 ͡ʖ ͜。) 20:41 Megaf L(° O °L) 20:42 Megaf enjoy http://asciimoji.com/ 21:32 sofar really ought to move IRC config to a modstorage then 21:32 sofar but that's why I use --config on all my servers.... 22:00 benrob0329 https://mastodon.art/@benrob0329/100641430864927538 22:00 benrob0329 :PP 22:22 IhrFussel How can this crash as "nil value" ?? if driver and driver:is_player() then 22:22 IhrFussel attempt to call method 'is_player' (a nil value) 22:24 IhrFussel Should I use minetest.is_player(driver:get_player_name()) ? I think get_player_name() already crashed before 22:25 Shara Try it and find out? 22:26 IhrFussel It's a random crash even...only happens sometimes...maybe it's about player leaving the game while in a car and attacked by monster 22:31 IhrFussel But if a player leaves driver should be nil... the error came from mobs_monster mod so very likely something about attacking a (non-existent?) player 22:39 rubenwardy aerozoic: use --config 22:43 paramat Megaf please restrain offtopic :) 22:52 Megaf ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ 22:52 * Megaf runs away 22:52 Megaf paramat: why you no -chat? 22:53 paramat hmm i could .. 22:53 Megaf well, going to bed now, g'night everyone, server is up, thoug still lots of mods missing 22:53 Megaf !server Megaf 22:53 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/20, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.17.1 / minetest | Ping: 13ms 22:54 Megaf g'nite!