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08:36 Tenplus1 hi folks
08:39 shivajiva Morning tenplus1 ;)
08:39 Tenplus1 hi shiva , hows things ?
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08:46 Tenplus1 hi Jordach
08:57 Tenplus1 Xanadu was updated last night and is using all latest mod features :) builtin_item working a-ok
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09:18 shivajiva good thanks ten, though I seem to be having login issues via irc with 0.4 stable :/
09:19 Tenplus1 0.4.17-1 ???
09:19 shivajiva mhm
09:19 Tenplus1 hrm, another reason I dont update cause many ppl are having issues with it... will stick with 0.4.16 for now
09:19 Tenplus1 what kinda issues you got ?
09:20 shivajiva private chat with the bot and it goes dumb
09:20 Tenplus1 the bot cant hear your msg's ?
09:21 shivajiva it's like it doesn't have commands but via the channel it's sat in it works
09:21 Tenplus1 hrm, listening in one but not in the other... strange
09:22 shivajiva so for example <botname>, players works in channel but opening a pm to the bot and typing players yields nothing
09:22 Tenplus1 does sending it a msg prefix anything to the command it receives ?
09:23 shivajiva both irc and irc commands are current, not as far as I'm aware, this has worked okay for years
09:23 Tenplus1 just not on the latest release...
09:23 shivajiva seems that way
09:24 Tenplus1 I wonder if 0.4.17 changed anything dealing with io protocol
09:25 shivajiva you'd think ruben would have noticed on ctf
09:25 Tenplus1 unless he just calls bot in channel and not pm
09:25 shivajiva doubtful nobody logs in via the channel as it exposes the command
09:26 Tenplus1 ooh, you gotta log into bot ?
09:26 shivajiva yes
09:26 Tenplus1 gotcha, I've never actually used the irc mod yet.
09:26 shivajiva login <name> <password>
09:29 shivajiva guess I need to add some log events to see what's happening
09:29 ANAND shivajiva: Another irc issue popped up yesterday, which was quite similar to this - the bot did not reply to PMs at all. The reporter suspected that the issue was caused by freenode automatically setting +r to all users
09:29 Tenplus1 yeh, will check irc mod and see how it all workd
09:29 Tenplus1 hi ANAND
09:29 ANAND Hi :)
09:29 ANAND Register the bot with NickServ and trying again should work...
09:29 ANAND Registering*
09:30 shivajiva Hi ANAND, though that myself so went to a channel I know isn't running the current release and used it's bot via pm to login, no issue
09:32 shivajiva so it seems unlikely it's +r as that bot isn't registered either
09:33 Tenplus1 will reverting to 0.4.16 fix issues for now ? or is it too late ?
09:33 shivajiva why would it work in channel and not pm if it's a +r issue
09:33 shivajiva I think it will revert, not sure
09:38 Tenplus1 am posponing Xanadu update until 0.4.18 maybe...
09:38 Tenplus1 for now mod/lua updates will be cherry picked to work properly
09:39 shivajiva on my server it's the only issue I have found tbh
09:40 Tenplus1 https://dev.minetest.net/Changelog#0.4.17_.E2.86.92_0.4.17.1
09:41 ANAND Setting +r means that unregistered users (or bots) can't spam that user with PMs
09:41 shivajiva hmm 'Correct character encoding for chat_send_player and chat_send_all '
09:43 shivajiva guess it's worth registering it to see
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09:43 shivajiva what's bugging me is it worked until yesterday
09:43 ANAND It's possible that the bot on the other channel is registered :)
09:45 ANAND oh wait, you said it isn't...
09:46 shivajiva registering a bot is a pita as you need to assume the identity to get the job done
09:46 ANAND yeah...
09:50 shivajiva I'll pose the question to staff and see if they can shed light on it
09:52 longerstaff13 morning
09:52 Tenplus1 hi longer
09:52 longerstaff13 hello 11
09:56 shivajiva response was 'You might want to remove umode R'
09:56 Tenplus1 doh!
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10:25 Tenplus1 hi fixer
10:30 ANAND :P
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10:43 Krock hi Tenplus1
10:43 Tenplus1 hey krock :)
10:44 * Tenplus1 is making noms
10:51 rubenwardy You can register a bot as a user
10:51 rubenwardy /whois CTF_Bot
10:51 * Tenplus1 registers bot as a donut
11:02 * Fuchs eats bot
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11:21 ChimneySwift rip that bot
11:22 Tenplus1 nuuuuuu, my donut bot
11:22 Tenplus1 hi chimney
11:23 ChimneySwift Hu tenplus1
11:23 ChimneySwift hu
11:23 ChimneySwift lol
11:23 Tenplus1 :P
11:23 ChimneySwift *hi
11:24 Tenplus1 didn't you have a youtube channel ? or am I getting your nick mixed up ?
11:27 ChimneySwift I do, but it's probably not the one you think XD
11:27 Tenplus1 ehehe, minetest vids ?
11:28 ChimneySwift yeah, there's another guy called ChimneySwift11 who I found out about after I started using it
11:28 Tenplus1 hahaha, bet he was mc
11:28 ChimneySwift but yes all my Vida are minetest, most of them short and crap quality :p
11:28 ChimneySwift *vids
11:28 ChimneySwift why autocorrect lol
11:29 Tenplus1 you shoudl do mod reviews
11:30 ChimneySwift I might tbh, haven't had the time till recently to spend much on it. I think my PC will choke less on recording those too lol
11:31 Tenplus1 :))
11:31 ChimneySwift different topic, but do any of you Linux people know if there's some builtin way to bulk rename files in Linux?
11:32 Tenplus1 https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/1136/batch-renaming-files many ways :D
11:32 Tenplus1 and a few tools in repos
11:33 ChimneySwift hmm, any of them short enough for you to send through irc for me? XD I can't use anything else at the moment :c
11:34 ChimneySwift if not I can do it tomorrow no problem
11:37 Tenplus1 dunno if pidgin handled file sends here
11:37 Tenplus1 what are you trying to rename ?
11:38 Tenplus1 theres bash commands that might wrk
11:39 Tenplus1 the link I posted shows how to do so
11:39 ChimneySwift i have a bunch of numbered files in a bunch of folders and I want to place them all in the parent folder with the name [folder name]_[filename]
11:39 ChimneySwift I think I'll just do it tomorrow
11:40 ChimneySwift otherwise you'll be here forever trying to help this bash noob out when I could just Google it tomorrow :p
11:43 Tenplus1 no probs
11:44 ChimneySwift thanks tho, I'll check the link tomorrow
11:52 Krock use sed to rename :D
11:53 Tenplus1 that's one of the examples on the page :D
12:04 Tenplus1 bash is kinda kewl for scripting :)
12:19 Krock pipe everything
12:21 Tenplus1 pipe the pipes be callin'
12:24 Krock a task for Super Mario The Plumber
12:24 Tenplus1 played mario kart 8 on wii lately, was amazing
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12:28 Tenplus1 wb
12:29 ChimneySwift ty
12:29 ChimneySwift app crashed \o/
12:30 Tenplus1 what app ya using ?
12:31 ChimneySwift Revolution IRC, it's in beta
12:32 Tenplus1 ooh, never used that one...  might check it out... am using Pidgin for google and irc
12:33 ChimneySwift yeah it's a good app, only a couple issues, occasionally crashes and notifications don't work
12:33 ChimneySwift well, on my phone
12:33 Tenplus1 droid or ios ?
12:33 ChimneySwift android
12:33 ChimneySwift not sure you can get it on iOS
12:34 Tenplus1 not unless it's jailbroken
12:35 ChimneySwift ah
12:36 Tenplus1 although I do hate how apple handles the app store...  if the author isnt charging or making money off an app then they should host it for free... *cough* Minetest
12:36 ChimneySwift yeah agreed
12:38 ChimneySwift I don't prefer iOS in general either lol. I have an iPad air I never use cause of the OS lol
12:39 Tenplus1 they have too much control
12:39 ChimneySwift yeah
12:39 ChimneySwift I can't make anything on it cause it's such a PITA to get stuff off lol
12:41 Tenplus1 heh yeah...  I had a friend try and add a custom ringtone on her iphone, was such a ballache she gave in and ended up buying android phone
12:41 ChimneySwift LOL
12:41 ChimneySwift that's great
12:45 ChimneySwift my parents recently got new android phones (from iOS) and I was tasked with setting them up, the easiest way to transfer contacts was manually inputting them lol. took me a few hours
12:45 Tenplus1 my new ZTE mobile only cost 49 quid and it handles Minetest pretty well :)
12:45 Tenplus1 ekk
12:45 ChimneySwift oh wow nice lol
12:45 ChimneySwift yeah was a bit painful lol
12:46 Tenplus1 least with google login they transfer automatically
12:46 ChimneySwift yeah
12:47 ChimneySwift current phone I got for free, handles minetest as good as my tablet though the screen is tiny lol
12:48 ChimneySwift it's playable, but 0.4 mobile controls are less than fantastic anyway
12:49 Tenplus1 yeah they gotta work on that a tad...  hopefully 0.5 will fix the issues on android
12:50 Tenplus1 from what I see pretty soon we'll have screen cradles to turn phones into tablet or pc
12:50 ChimneySwift haha yeah. I can't complain, porting isn't exactly easy and fun lol
12:50 ChimneySwift that would be so cool lol
12:50 Tenplus1 since everything can fit inside a tiny wee phone and it's already more powerful than my desktop :DD
12:50 ChimneySwift I'd like just a big android tablet with nice build quality and a removable kb
12:51 ChimneySwift XD
12:51 ChimneySwift and big as in like 10"
12:51 longerstaff13 Apple did that with iPad
12:51 longerstaff13 I think
12:51 longerstaff13 Oh no wait that was a case
12:51 ChimneySwift hmmm yeah but not what I'm thinking
12:51 ChimneySwift yeah
12:51 ChimneySwift cases are meh
12:52 longerstaff13 I'm thinking of windows 10 tablets
12:52 ChimneySwift like a Microsoft book but android and not costing an arm and a leg
12:52 longerstaff13 :P
12:52 Tenplus1 lenovo do some really good fliptops
12:52 ChimneySwift you could even chuck a battery in the kb cover
12:52 ChimneySwift true
12:53 ChimneySwift imagine that, 48hr battery life or something with the keyboard cover on
12:53 longerstaff13 48hr would be brilliant even for a netbook
12:53 Tenplus1 that's pretty good... my Acer Cloudbook has 12 hours battery life
12:54 ChimneySwift well they could fit a lot of battery in there
12:54 longerstaff13 My laptop can have 3-4 hours, sometimes 2 if I play MT on it
12:54 ChimneySwift and have another battery in the tablet part
12:54 ChimneySwift and the electronics also ofc so you can separate it
12:55 ChimneySwift not really high performance device, more for web browsing or word processing type stuff
12:56 Tenplus1 the surface pro build quality is so bad it cannot be repaired according to tech sites
12:58 ChimneySwift lol yeah the surface pro is eh.. like cool theory, terrible execution
12:58 ChimneySwift Microsoft seems to be good at that
12:58 Tenplus1 they make things to be replacable and not so much repaired... costly
12:59 ChimneySwift sounds like apple lol
13:00 ChimneySwift nice
13:00 Tenplus1 one of the performance bottlenecks seems to be windows itself...  uses up most of the 32gb storage and 2gb memory leaving hardly anything to use
13:00 Tenplus1 xubu 18.04 is only 2.8gb and 280mb memory :D
13:01 ChimneySwift yeah
13:01 ChimneySwift Windows is a resource hog
13:01 Tenplus1 sadly yeah, for a popular os
13:02 ChimneySwift oof, I better go to bed if I wanna wake up in time tomorrow lol
13:02 Tenplus1 laters dude
13:02 ChimneySwift laters
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13:14 Tenplus1 hi Gael-de-Sailly
13:19 Gael-de-Sailly hi Tenplus1
13:57 longerstaff13 hehe, I'm installing Ubuntu on my tablet right now
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13:57 longerstaff13 it came with Windows 10 on it
13:57 Tenplus1 ooh, what tablet ya got ?
13:57 Tenplus1 hi CWz
13:58 CWz Can it run Minetest deluxe edition ?
13:58 longerstaff13 Lynx Vision 004
13:58 longerstaff13 it doesn't have a keyboard or mouse, only its touch screen :P
13:59 Tenplus1 not bad :) if it does wifi or bluetooth then you can easily use external kb and mouse
13:59 longerstaff13 yeah, thing is, I don't have any bluetooth equipment XD
13:59 longerstaff13 I would have done that on Windows 10 if it had lol
13:59 longerstaff13 s/it/I/
14:03 Tenplus1 least ubuntu will take up less space and give you more to play with :D
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14:12 Tenplus1 hi Jordach
14:19 Jordach skraaa
14:20 Tenplus1 what's new ?
14:21 Jordach lower back pain
14:21 Tenplus1 too much exploring... gotta use fly privs to save wear and tear
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14:27 Tenplus1 hi DI3HARD139
14:28 DI3HARD139 Hello
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14:38 Tenplus1 hi billy
14:38 BillyS o/
14:38 BillyS #3 on the server list! woo!
14:38 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3 -- Furnace segfault
14:39 BillyS CTF will never lose #1
14:39 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1 -- GlowStone code by anonymousAwesome
14:39 BillyS So that barely even counts. :P
14:39 Tenplus1 ehehe, nice one
14:40 Tenplus1 It wont let me see the furnace fix
14:41 BillyS Hmm ....
14:41 BillyS Ah, LoS is down
14:41 BillyS that's why I'm up so high
14:41 BillyS <Plebs> the server is under maintenance and will be offline for a while. go out and chase cats! lol
14:42 Tenplus1 hah
14:45 Tenplus1 what is this glowstone and why is it hard coded and not in lua ???
14:46 Krock BillyS: high rank = high amount of low-quality players
14:46 BillyS No Krock, it means a higher pontential to get high-quality players
14:46 Krock https://i.imgur.com/f1qmUE8.gif
14:47 BillyS lol
15:00 Tenplus1 #5966
15:00 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5966 -- Entities glitching inside solid nodes
15:05 longerstaff13 Question, I just deleted my rollback.sqlite file, now my server keeps crashing and not letting anybody in, is this reversible?
15:05 Tenplus1 did you disable the rollback feature in minetest.conf ???
15:06 longerstaff13 No
15:06 Tenplus1 enable_rollback_recording = false
15:06 Tenplus1 close minetest, add that line to .conf and try again
15:06 longerstaff13 Alright
15:06 Krock this arises the question how the old rollback.sqlite file was created
15:06 Tenplus1 or change existing line :D
15:06 Krock please file a bug report and provide as much information about the crash as possible
15:07 Krock gdb backtrace is surely helpful
15:08 longerstaff13 The debug.txt doesn't say anything about the crash, it just logs IRC chat with no server activity
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15:08 Tenplus1 hi mister
15:08 Mr_Pardison hullo
15:10 Krock so it stalls, but doesn't crash?
15:12 Tenplus1 does the .conf addition help ?
15:15 BillyS Hmmm ... when :getpos() is called on a player, where in the player is that position? Is it the center of the player, the feet, or the top of the head?
15:15 Tenplus1 feet usually
15:15 BillyS I'd guess the center, but Im not sure
15:15 BillyS Hmm, ok
15:15 BillyS So if I want the center, I'd have to add 1 to it I suppose?
15:15 Tenplus1 yeah
15:15 Tenplus1 and 1.4 for head/mouth level
15:16 BillyS (to the y-value that is)
15:16 BillyS ok, thx
15:16 Tenplus1 use :get_pos()
15:17 BillyS :getpos() is depricated?
15:17 Tenplus1 yeh
15:17 BillyS kk
15:17 Tenplus1 0.4.16 and over use get_pos set_pos get_velocity set_acceleration etc.
15:18 ANAND since get_pos returns player pos with respect to the world, it makes sense to return the pos of the feet :)
15:18 ANAND Also, eye level is approx 1.6
15:18 ANAND At least for 5.0.0
15:18 Tenplus1 :P didnt model shrink at some point
15:19 Tenplus1 playerplus mod uses +1.4 for head level... gotta check
15:20 xerox123 how would I start a server in gdb to ctach the backtrace?
15:20 xerox123 catch*
15:20 BillyS Sweet, it works! Thx guys
15:21 Tenplus1 :)
15:21 BillyS For those interested, I'm building a better bullet collision detection system
15:21 BillyS Instead of using the "damage sphere" idea
15:21 ANAND 1.625 is the value I use for raycasting
15:21 Tenplus1 0.5's raycast function does that
15:21 BillyS Yeah
15:21 BillyS That would be the most accurate way
15:22 BillyS But 0.5 isn't stable yet. :P
15:22 Tenplus1 true...  I tweaked the bow mod on xanadu and removed the get_node to speed things up and make precision shots
15:22 ANAND I fiddled around with a range of values, and 1.625 seems to be the most accurate y-value that corresponds to the player eye (camera)
15:23 BillyS Anyways, my method detects players within a certain radius around the cannon and then uses vectors to verify that it will hit them
15:23 ANAND cool :)
15:23 BillyS thx
15:23 BillyS I might actaully be able to make it detect if it passed through them
15:23 BillyS And then damage them
15:24 BillyS So that lag wouldn't make it skip through the player without detecting it
15:25 Tenplus1 am interested to see your final mod :D
15:25 BillyS Thx
15:25 BillyS It's gonna be a cannon mod if it works out correctly
15:25 BillyS for PK
15:26 BillyS I might also add an optional integration with the siege_hammer mod so that it could destroy walls over time and the like
15:26 Tenplus1 if it helps I have collisionbox detection in bows: https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/bows/src/master/arrow.lua
15:27 BillyS Cool
15:27 xerox123 tried gdb: got this in the backtrace https://pastebin.com/8Q9yC4XH
15:27 Tenplus1 hi xerox
15:28 xerox123 hi
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15:37 Tenplus1 wb mister
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15:41 Tenplus1 hi clobber
15:48 ClobberXD Hello Tenplus1 :)
15:48 Tenplus1 a seige hammer sounds brutal billy :P
15:49 Mr_Pardison oh how beautiful.
15:49 Mr_Pardison trebuchet FTW!
15:50 Tenplus1 ehehehe, that would bring range weapons to a whole new level in mt
15:51 Krock smash that 90kg projectile over 300m
15:51 Mr_Pardison yup.
15:52 Mr_Pardison but!
15:52 Mr_Pardison how would we measure the weight and would it only allow certain projectiles or any object?
15:52 Krock any object
15:52 Tenplus1 have stone balls and flaming stone balls cradftable
15:53 Tenplus1 player set_velocity doesnt exist so we cant even do that
15:53 Tenplus1 uynless we attach to entity
15:53 Krock you'd have to attach it to an entity anyway to make it act exactly like a projectile
15:53 Mr_Pardison we need to be able to launch players.
15:53 Krock otherwise the player could move
15:53 Tenplus1 defintely... a super way to get around too
15:54 Mr_Pardison or launch players into a jail (or death pit :P
15:54 Tenplus1 muhahaha, so much potentia
15:54 Tenplus1 *l
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16:17 Tenplus1 o/ paramat
16:29 paramat !tell ChimneySwift please don't have long offtopic discussions in this channel, see channel rules
16:29 MinetestBot paramat: I'll pass that on when ChimneySwift is around
16:29 Tenplus1 was kicked by paramat: Tenplus1
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16:30 Tenplus1 hi folks
16:50 Krock hi Tenplus1
16:50 Krock *wb
16:50 Tenplus1 thanks :) was indesposed for a second there
16:50 Krock paramat: could you do it again? I wanna see whether Tenplus1 has set "hi folks" as autojoin command
16:50 Krock :P
16:51 Tenplus1 lolol
16:51 Tenplus1 it';s not, ttyped every time
16:51 Krock ii seee
17:00 BillyS Krock, I remember one MT player had "Hello there." aliased to a hotkey ...
17:00 * Tenplus1 presses F1
17:00 Krock BillyS: I'd say that's a nice edited client
17:00 Tenplus1 shortcuts are very handy in irc
17:00 Krock or at least a script which emulates keyboard presses
17:00 BillyS Krock, I think it was system-wide
17:06 Mr_Pardison I just thought that if we can have a launcher of some sort it would be possible to make a rudimentary network with mesecons for bits.
17:07 Tenplus1 launcher = cannon ?
17:07 Mr_Pardison kinda.
17:07 Tenplus1 so a signal activated weapon
17:07 Mr_Pardison one moment.
17:07 Tenplus1 am sure mesecon or elepower can be uysed
17:08 Mr_Pardison https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fLeDUgDKbU
17:08 Mr_Pardison !title
17:08 MinetestBot Mr_Pardison: Spudnet 2.0: The Internet of the Future! (Scrap Mechanic #323) - YouTube
17:08 Mr_Pardison this is what got me thinking.
17:09 Tenplus1 hrm, what are you hoping to gain from it all ?
17:15 Mr_Pardison idk.
17:15 Mr_Pardison just for the halibut rly.
17:16 Tenplus1 lol
17:16 Tenplus1 I gotta test out elepower and see how it different from mesecons
17:16 Mr_Pardison for a dispaly, digilines screen.
17:17 Mr_Pardison first thing I would send: the word "fish"
17:17 Tenplus1 :P
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17:18 Tenplus1 hey gary :)
17:35 xerox123 will the copy and paste issues be fixed in 5.0? :P
17:35 Tenplus1 for linx ?
17:35 Tenplus1 *linux
17:36 xerox123 yes
17:36 Tenplus1 I hope so... not being able to cute and paste to and from minetest is a pain
17:37 Shara Cute pasting? >.>
17:37 Tenplus1 *cut... ehehehehe
17:38 Tenplus1 hi shara
17:38 Shara :D
17:38 Shara Hi Ten
17:39 Tenplus1 we got drop crafts working in xanadu if you wanna try :)
17:39 garywhite hello
17:41 Shara drop crafts?
17:42 Tenplus1 the custom builtin_item mod allows for special functions per item/drop if found :)
17:42 Tenplus1 crystal ingots can be crafted by dropping 2x mese crystal and 2x crystal spike into a pool of seawater :)
17:48 Shara Hmm, will have to come try that later
17:49 Tenplus1 :)
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17:55 Tenplus1 hi Darcidride
18:06 Tenplus1 erk
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18:34 Jordach !tell Krock i know see why we're getting v3f issues
18:34 MinetestBot Jordach: I'll pass that on when Krock is around
18:34 Jordach !tell Krock it's literally putting a v3f inside a v3f table
18:34 MinetestBot Jordach: I'll pass that on when Krock is around
18:34 * Jordach stars confused screaming
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18:43 Tenplus1 wb folks
18:43 ThomasMonroe heya Tenplus1
18:44 Tenplus1 hi thomas :)
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18:58 Tenplus1 o/
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19:36 Tenplus1 nite folks o///
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20:11 IhrFussel And yet another anti-cheat mod...don't they all pretty much do the same?
20:12 IhrFussel I mean MT API only provides a few methods you can use for cheat detection
20:12 rubenwardy not very well
20:12 rubenwardy and, I mean
20:13 rubenwardy there's lots you can do with get_node, LVM, find_node_in_area...
20:14 IhrFussel if #fly == 343 then ... why 343?
20:15 IhrFussel fly is ignore/air nodes -3/+3 around the player
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20:16 IhrFussel Wait == ??? It should be >=
20:16 IhrFussel It only matches when there are exactly 343 air or ignore nodes near the player
20:17 BillyS no
20:17 BillyS 343 is the maximum
20:17 BillyS 7^3 - 343
20:17 BillyS Oops
20:17 BillyS 7^3 = 343
20:17 BillyS You can't get more nodes then that
20:18 IhrFussel Then the fly detection only detects flying very high mid air...bad method
20:20 VanessaE the smarter way would be to check if there's a walkable node within 2m of the player's position, vertically.
20:20 IhrFussel And that noclip "detection" looks like it will give LOTS of false positives
20:20 VanessaE even if the user's flying, being 2m above the ground gives no play advantage.
20:20 BillyS VanessaE, might mess up with sneaking on the endge of a cliff
20:21 VanessaE true.
20:21 IhrFussel https://github.com/xNelth/xcheat/blob/master/init.lua#L28
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20:21 VanessaE so check the 18 positions within 2m down.  better than looking for 343 positions
20:22 * paramat is parannoyed =)
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20:46 VanessaE anyone here familiar with Lua Controller programming?
20:47 VanessaE (as in mesecons)
20:48 * Mr_Pardison isn't and should learn....
20:48 BillyS More or less ....
20:48 VanessaE is there a way to give a LuaC access to a table defined in a minetest mod (even if that means tweaking the mod)?
20:49 BillyS If you tweaked the mesecons mod I'd imagine it was possible ...
20:49 BillyS My suggestion would be to make a digiline query block or something like that
20:49 Jordach IhrFussel: what are teabs
20:49 VanessaE well, without tweaking anything more than my own mods :P
20:50 BillyS So it would send a digiline message to the block, and the block would send back the table
20:50 BillyS Of course, that would rely on digilines ...
20:50 IhrFussel I once tried to programatically switch mesecons lightstones on only when it#s night...turns out all I needed was a solar panel and a NOT gate...I'm so mad now
20:50 BillyS xD
20:52 IhrFussel Jordach, uhh?
20:52 Jordach in the xcheat init
20:52 Jordach what the hell is that indentation
20:53 BillyS I like tabs
20:53 BillyS Pressing 1 key vs press the same key 4 times
20:54 IhrFussel Ah you mean tabs...well I don't blame the guy, I use nano to write my code...no tabs possible in nano unless you want part of your code to be offscreen
20:54 VanessaE IhrFussel: FAIL.
20:54 VanessaE nano has no problem with tabs
20:54 VanessaE https://www.electrictoolbox.com/setting-tab-size-in-nano/
20:55 IhrFussel The default tab size is pretty wasteful though
20:55 IhrFussel My precious screen space
20:55 VanessaE so change the default.
21:01 Shara Fussel, stop hating the tabs :(
21:05 Shara Zosia is the big issue really.
21:05 Shara Eww, wrong tab :D
21:06 * Shara needs sleep
21:08 Fixer wat?
21:08 rubenwardy VanessaE: you need to add the table to the environment that the luac runs in
21:08 VanessaE rubenwardy: I don't suppose you have an example of how to do that?
21:08 rubenwardy There will be a    setfenv   somewhere
21:08 rubenwardy Or loadstring with 4 arguments
21:09 rubenwardy One of those two will have a table with what is exposed to the controller
21:09 VanessaE ew...
21:09 rubenwardy You need to add a new key to those
21:09 VanessaE ok, lemme look.
21:09 rubenwardy The new key will be a global in the luac
21:10 VanessaE found it.
21:16 VanessaE ahh
21:16 VanessaE -- You can add more functions to the environment
21:16 VanessaE -- (see where local env is defined)
21:16 VanessaE -- Something nice to play is is appending minetest.env to it.
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21:17 VanessaE except.... env is local :(
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21:25 BillyS Grr, players spreading lies about me all over the place ...
21:25 BillyS Those players from LoS sure know how to hold a grudge. :/
21:27 * Mr_Pardison goes over and give BillyS a puppy
21:28 Mr_Pardison have a cute puppy to cheer you up.
21:28 BillyS yay! :D
22:17 Jordach wooooo
22:17 Jordach you can finally dynamically set the number of stars in the sky
22:19 Mr_Pardison ^5!
22:19 * Mr_Pardison puts 5 stars to rate the work Jordach has done
22:19 Mr_Pardison nay, make it 7 stars.
22:32 Jordach https://i.imgur.com/ByYWtjT.png
22:32 Jordach Mr_Pardison: ^
22:32 Jordach count the stars ;)
22:33 VanessaE so, universal skybox mod in mtg when? :P
22:33 Jordach kewk
22:33 Mr_Pardison Jordach: I'm lazy.
22:33 Jordach stars also use the alpha channel instead of fading to black
22:34 Jordach stars no longer become black just because it's bloody morning
22:34 Jordach https://i.imgur.com/VkNyY4u.png
22:34 Jordach the sun and moon also have axial tilts
22:35 Jordach https://gist.github.com/Jordach/00c5ad8e1cb38ab861effc0c376a3f23 *oof*
22:35 Jordach check out the *NEW* set_sky command
22:38 Jordach and if you just simply use nils
22:38 Jordach it'll use their defaults ;)
22:45 Jordach VanessaE: my todo list: add a special skybox specifically for an overlay layer
22:46 Jordach it'll follow the stars as it rotates but will contain an alpha supported layer where you could put nebulae and stuff
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23:20 BillyS LOL, n00bz took over Krock's house on my server. xD
23:31 Mr_Pardison g2g cya
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