Time Nick Message 08:44 tenplus1 hi folks :) 08:57 tenplus1 hey fixer :) 08:58 tenplus1 o/ CWz 08:58 CWz 10+1 08:58 tenplus1 :) 09:16 tenplus1 hi longer 09:16 longerstaff13-m Morning 11 09:19 tenplus1 o/ 09:24 Fixer hi 09:41 tenplus1 hi andro 09:44 tenplus1 o/ bob 09:44 tenplus1 builtin_item updated - https://notabug.org/tenplus1/builtin_item 09:45 Bobr O/ tenplus1 how r u 09:45 tenplus1 tired but okie 09:45 tenplus1 you ? 09:45 Bobr same 09:45 tenplus1 lol 09:46 Bobr yodels delivering this new pc 09:46 tenplus1 hope it arrives ok 09:46 Bobr it better lol 09:46 tenplus1 :P 09:47 Bobr i was gonna ring em up and kick off but then i thought about the pure soul who would have to deal with me lol 09:48 tenplus1 when it comes to a new toy, we're always eager for it to arrive :P 09:48 Bobr yeah i still dont know whether to dual boot it or use a vm 09:50 Bobr morning Gael-de-Sailly 09:50 tenplus1 hi Gael-de-Sailly 09:50 Gael-de-Sailly Hi :) 09:51 Bobr the only problem is ive never installed on windows lol 09:51 tenplus1 Bobr: the mobo will have VT-x so should be able to run virtualbox as if it were on bare metal 09:51 tenplus1 that's how mines is setup on my other desktop 09:52 Bobr thats good 09:52 tenplus1 Xubuntu as my main Os running on desktop 1, and desktop 2 (when needed) is Windows 10 lite (for testing only) 09:52 Bobr yeah might do that 11:03 tenplus1 builtin_item updated - https://notabug.org/tenplus1/builtin_item - added 'dropped_step' function to customize dropped items 11:06 tenplus1 e.g. dropped ice can float on water... dropped gunpowder can explode on lit gunpowder... and more 11:07 Bobr thats clever 11:07 tenplus1 ooh, saplings could replant themselves if dropped on dirt for a time 11:07 Bobr couldnt that cause uneccary lag 11:07 tenplus1 nope 11:07 tenplus1 I've tweaked builtin_item to reduce lag 11:07 Bobr oooh i c 11:11 tenplus1 https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/builtin_item/src/master/README.md 11:34 tenplus1 hi raven 11:34 Raven262 Hi ten 11:35 ChimneySwift oh wow. that's really cool lol 11:36 tenplus1 hi chimney 11:37 tenplus1 wb 11:41 Raven262 thanks ten 11:45 Bobr dun dun dun 11:46 tenplus1 dramatic :P 11:54 ChimneySwift hi tenplus1 11:54 ChimneySwift XD 11:54 tenplus1 what's new ? 11:55 ChimneySwift oh I'm sure y'all will love this one: Windows update completely consumed my mobile date for this month 11:55 tenplus1 ouch, how big was it ? 11:55 ChimneySwift 3gb 11:55 ChimneySwift and it failed too 11:55 ChimneySwift lmao 11:56 tenplus1 o.O I could have installed xubuntu twice over with that amount 11:56 ChimneySwift yep... 11:56 Bobr n lollol 11:56 tenplus1 win 10 ??? 11:56 ChimneySwift yep 11:57 tenplus1 did you disable the feature that shares updates with other users, at the expence of your data/wifi ? 11:58 ChimneySwift I think I'm going to dual boot and slowly switch to Linux in light of this... I think that was the last straw, if I can get everything I need to work though :/ 11:58 ChimneySwift mhm 11:58 tenplus1 what do you use most on windows ? 12:01 Bobr why not just move to linux and use a vm for windows 12:01 ChimneySwift a lot of stuff lol. mainly chrome, discord, sublime text, GIMP, minetest and of course this weird software I need for school, all of which have native Linux variants or are replaceable... except the school software XD 12:02 ChimneySwift it's likely I'll infrequently use windows for. the few games I have that need it 12:02 ChimneySwift looking now and most stuff should transfer 12:02 tenplus1 if it's a decent enough system you could use WINE for specific software or virtualbox for w10 itself 12:05 tenplus1 what school s/w do you use ? 12:06 ChimneySwift yeah I'm sure I can get it all working with a bit of time, I'll just slowly chip away at it till it's as good as or better than what I got. a lot of the software will just have to be replaced 12:06 tenplus1 been using linux since 2008 here :) never looked back 12:07 ChimneySwift haha yeah, if only I had started with Linux :p 12:07 tenplus1 it;s easy enough to pick up if you get a distro you like 12:08 ChimneySwift I think it's based off Java, but they've wrapped it in some kind of custom application so I'll need to. dig into it. if all else fails wine should probably run it 12:08 ChimneySwift yeah 12:08 ChimneySwift I just want to match windows before I switch for good 12:09 tenplus1 heh 12:10 ChimneySwift which probably won't be that hard lol 12:11 ChimneySwift just need to find alternatives to some programs 12:11 tenplus1 which one's ? 12:14 tenplus1 wb CWz 12:19 ChimneySwift a few I'm thinking of are rainmeter (custom desktop widgets) , networx (network usage monitoring) , autohotkey (program able kb shortcuts) , greenshot (excellent screens shot software) , and also my Wacom and Logitech drivers, although I would assume those exist cause they're fairly common 12:20 ChimneySwift I'm sure there are obvious alternatives for some of these but I haven't looked 12:22 tenplus1 rainmeter = conky, autohotkey is easy with shortcutkeys on each distro, networx has many alternatives for desktop; meters or taskbar, greenshot has many alternatives (press printscreen usually), and wacom/logitech is already supported 12:24 ChimneySwift sweet. networks is quite thorough on its usage reports but I'm sure there's one out there, seems like something a lot of people would want 12:26 tenplus1 lxde, xfce, gnome3, kde, cinmamon and even icewm all have their own network usage widget or tray 12:26 ChimneySwift too easy XD 12:26 tenplus1 so much choice, that's the issue :P 12:27 ChimneySwift ikr ? 12:27 tenplus1 my current desktop has IceWM which sits at a nice 160mb on desktop and has 3x trays bottom right with network, battery/power and memory usage :) 12:29 ChimneySwift yay customizability 12:29 ChimneySwift and I can turn the updates off? lol. jk 12:29 tenplus1 lol, of course :) and they are a hell of a lot faster, smaller and more stable than winblows updates 12:30 ChimneySwift hahaha 12:30 ChimneySwift Microsoft has gotta have something going on with the ISPs lol 12:31 tenplus1 they have their sticky fingers in everything 12:32 ChimneySwift like you'd think that a company to invested in updating all the time would be able to update without failing 12:32 ChimneySwift lol 12:32 ChimneySwift *so 12:33 tenplus1 with w10 they gather so much information which is prolly passed to M$ during update to know what you are using etc. 12:35 ChimneySwift wouldn't be surprised 12:36 ChimneySwift I have less of a problem with that, more of an issue with their attitude 12:36 ChimneySwift reminds me more of apple lol 12:36 tenplus1 yeah, them and apple are no longer customer focused... it's more like my way or no way 12:37 Mr_Pardison_ yeah. 12:37 tenplus1 wb mister 12:38 ChimneySwift yup exactly. why I'm realizing I should probably just get out while I still can lol. look at apple and you can hardly export your own calendar 12:39 Mr_Pardison_ I've been here, just lurking in the background. 12:40 tenplus1 ehehe, lurking with noms I hope P 12:41 Mr_Pardison_ lurking with the sandman. 13:50 benrob0329 Hello tenplus1 13:51 tenplus1 hi benrob :) 13:51 tenplus1 hey aerozoic 13:51 aerozoic wazup tenplus1! 13:51 tenplus1 lolol nice vid 14:13 tenplus1 ehehe, his videos are interestingly strange 14:46 Megaf anyone here with Autism or Aspergers? Pop in #Minetest-Chat to chat maybe? 14:46 tenplus1 hi Megaf 14:46 tenplus1 what's going on in -chat ? 14:47 Megaf nothing 14:47 Megaf I just arrived here and I'm inviting people who have Aspergers or Autism to Chat to chat with me 14:48 Megaf I'm 99% sure I'm Autistic and have Aspergers 14:48 tenplus1 what makes you think that ? 14:48 Megaf very long list of stuff, but I'm not allowed to chat here 14:48 Fuchs Megaf: there is a project / channel on freenode for people in that spectrum, if you are interested 14:49 tenplus1 hi Fuchs 14:49 Fuchs tenplus1: hi :) 14:49 Megaf Fuchs: throw it 14:49 Megaf I mean, which one 14:50 Fuchs sent in query, to avoid a peanut gallery (not that I suspect there being many in #minetest-hub, but ...) 14:50 tenplus1 eb bob 14:50 tenplus1 *wb 14:58 Bobr thanks 15:00 tenplus1 my gaming keyuboard finally arrived :P yay... lights up and is waterproof 15:00 rubenwardy Woo 15:00 rubenwardy Congrats 15:00 tenplus1 not bad for 14 quid :D 15:00 rud0lf tenplus1: is it wsad + 12345 ? 15:00 rud0lf ;) 15:01 tenplus1 heh, that's all ya need :D 15:01 Mr_Pardison_ YASSSS! 15:01 rud0lf oh and escape 15:01 rud0lf :) 15:01 Mr_Pardison_ Always need an escape. 15:01 Mr_Pardison_ a.ka. MT :P 15:19 tenplus1 hi fussel 15:20 IhrFussel Hey tenplus1 15:21 IhrFussel Can I use minetest.get_auth_handler().get_auth(playername) with sauth? I mean is it compatible with all default auth functions? 15:21 tenplus1 never tried it 15:25 tenplus1 wb ben 15:38 tenplus1 o/ Krock 15:38 rubenwardy Yes, IhrFussel 15:38 Krock hi tenplus1 :) 15:39 IhrFussel rubenwardy, thanks =) So to get only the last login it's minetest.get_auth_handler().get_auth(playername).last_login right? Is the result a string or number? 15:39 rubenwardy Not sure 15:39 rubenwardy Dump it 16:10 tenplus1 o/ paramat 16:15 paramat !tell ChimneySwift hi, just a friendly reminder, please restrain offtopic, <50 lines, or use #minetest-chat 16:15 MinetestBot paramat: yeah, yeah 16:15 paramat lol 16:16 Mr_Pardison_ hehe 16:19 IcyDiamond lol 16:20 tenplus1 hi icy 16:29 rubenwardy MinetestBot knows what's up 16:29 rubenwardy In the discord, there's less offtopic in the main channel 16:29 rubenwardy I feel like that's because everyone joins all channels by default 16:29 rubenwardy Nothing we can do about this 16:29 ANAND Good point 16:29 rubenwardy Also, tenplus1 16:29 rubenwardy :) 16:30 rubenwardy Real code from tenplus1's drivers: std::array channels; 16:31 rubenwardy Nah, just kidding 16:32 rubenwardy tenplus1 would obviously be written in a beautiful language like Kotlin, not c++ 16:32 tenplus1 ?? 16:32 * tenplus1 has coffee 16:34 rubenwardy Heh, bad joke 16:34 tenplus1 least it's not cobol :P 16:35 rubenwardy Ew 16:35 tenplus1 :P 16:35 rubenwardy struct Channel channels[1]; 16:35 rubenwardy Slightly better 16:37 Krock std::array *channels[1]; 16:37 rubenwardy Ew 16:37 rubenwardy No 16:37 Krock Slightly better 16:37 shivajiva IhrFussel: sauth returns a table just like auth and last login is a number 16:39 Krock so that would be channel = *channels[0][0] 16:39 rubenwardy It's a pointer to an array 16:39 Krock a pointer array to a pointer array 16:39 rubenwardy Shouldn't it be *(*channels[0][0]) 16:40 rubenwardy Is *channel (*channel) 16:42 Krock if you do channels[0][0] then you've got a std::array because [] dereferences it 16:42 tenplus1 ??? 16:42 Krock so I think it's even *channels[0][0][0] to get Channel 16:42 Krock tenplus1: heh :D 16:43 Krock C(++) can always be complicated if you want it that way 16:44 * tenplus1 doesnt like coomplicated 16:44 rubenwardy Oh really 16:44 rubenwardy Oh yeah 16:45 tenplus1 hrm. am thinking of a way to make crystal ingots in ethereal mod by using builtin_item's new dropped_step() feature 16:46 Krock or alternatively channels[0][0][0][0] because the pointer in this case is basically an array of length 1 16:46 VanessaE so...minetest formspecs... how exactly do I enter normal symbols like ° or Ý ? copy/paste just puts in broken chars, X11-compose doesn't work, [shift][cgtl](u and a code) doesn't work.... 16:47 Krock not even control characters work here. it's totally messed up 16:47 * VanessaE sighs 16:47 tenplus1 might need a little work to get utf-8 chars 16:48 Krock write a script that translates it to hexadecimal byte notation and then use a CSM to send the in the chat :3 16:48 Krock but formspecs? no luck there, I think. 16:49 VanessaE I'm working on an update to my just-released led_marquee mod that will make it allow all symbols under U+00ff in a string without having to force them in with string.char() (e.g. in a LuaC program) 16:50 VanessaE I see people chatting all the time with > U+007F symbols of all kinds, in minetest, so it works in the chat window 16:50 tenplus1 I assumed what you could see in chat would be seen in formspec 16:51 VanessaE negatory. 16:53 VanessaE fwiw my code seems to work if I pass the string directly from the mod's code (e.g. by using a prepared, normally-typed-using-X11-compose test string) 16:58 VanessaE looks like this is quite old, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1106 17:00 tenplus1 hi tumeninodes 17:00 VanessaE o/ tumeninodes 17:00 tumeninodes hi tenplus1 17:00 tumeninodes hi Vanessa 17:01 tumeninodes I'm only on briefly, haven't been around 17:02 tumeninodes but I wanted to ask about making step height=1 toggleable via a key 17:02 VanessaE Krock, tenplus1 fwiw, http://i.imgur.com/RzvAEeU.png 17:02 tenplus1 ooh 17:02 tumeninodes that is SO nice 17:02 VanessaE (done by inserting teststr="#testing ¡¢£¤¥¦§¨©ª«¬­®¯°±²³´µ¶·¸¹º»¼½¾¿ÀÁÂÃÄÅÆÇÈÉÊËÌÍÎÏÐÑÒÓÔÕÖ×ØÙÚÛÜÝÞßàáâãäåæçèéêëìíîïðñòóôõö÷øùúûüýþÿ" into the code in place of the real string 17:02 tenplus1 we need 'dis 17:03 VanessaE tenplus1: it's just one commit+push away. 17:03 tenplus1 w00t 17:04 VanessaE you can do that NOW by doing digiline_send("channel", "some "..string.char(123).."UTF "..string.char(234).."stuff "..string.char(222).."here.") 17:04 VanessaE (i.e. using string.char() to insert the desired symbols) 17:05 Krock I like that Comic Sans font 17:05 VanessaE my titlebar? heh 17:05 VanessaE but now, seriously... 17:05 Krock yes, what else? :P 17:06 VanessaE there surely has to be a way to do that ^^^ from within a formspec (==LuaController program) without having to sprinkle string.char() everywhere. 17:08 Mr_Pardison_ Krock: how can you? Comic Sans. No. Just no. 17:09 Krock Mr_Pardison_: Comic Papyrus is better. https://befonts.com/comic-papyrus-font-finally.html 17:09 tenplus1 lol 17:09 ANAND Comic Sans MS is it's name... :P 17:09 Mr_Pardison_ ^ a crime. 17:09 VanessaE I happen to *like* comic sans, tyvm. 17:10 tenplus1 comic sans was created to be easy to read at a distance and by dyslexic peeps 17:10 ANAND Tbh, I like it too. Just disappointed that it belongs to MS and is not available on Linux 17:10 ANAND I use it for presentations 17:12 tenplus1 ? it is available on linuxs... install ms core fonts 17:12 tenplus1 https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=236016 17:13 Mr_Pardison_ PErsonally, I prefer to use the font "Play" on google docs since I type most of my papers on there. 17:14 tenplus1 Ubuntu font is kinda like the comic sans of linux, easy reading 17:14 tumeninodes Pardisonally 17:15 * Mr_Pardison_ grimaces 17:15 tenplus1 lol 17:15 tumeninodes ha 17:15 Mr_Pardison_ I suppose that's a side-effect of my name 17:15 tumeninodes it's very flexible 17:16 tumeninodes interchangeable 17:20 tumeninodes I dislike fonts which are unlegible. It's like people with license plates you have to figure out 17:20 Mr_Pardison_ yeah. 17:21 VanessaE tenplus1: https://gitlab.com/VanessaE/led_marquee 17:21 tenplus1 :PP 17:21 tumeninodes tenplus1, is that the Ubuntu font family? 17:21 tenplus1 heh yeah:P 17:22 tumeninodes just checkin 17:22 tenplus1 has a fixed width version also for console... it's all I use on desktop now 17:23 VanessaE there, the updates that make that screenshot possible are pushed. have fun, tenplus1 :) 17:23 tenplus1 sweet 17:23 tumeninodes now tweak the ability for signs ; ) 17:24 VanessaE signs are totally different. 17:24 tenplus1 we need hardware text support for signs... they look great but are slow when too many in an area 17:24 VanessaE I know they can display Cyrillic, though idk how that works. 17:24 tumeninodes emphasis on "totally" 17:25 Mr_Pardison_ signs are now able to display Cyrillic? 17:25 tumeninodes I'm gonna use led_marquee on a blimp! 17:26 tenplus1 the Duff blimp 17:27 tumeninodes the gallagher blimp is my favorite 17:29 tenplus1 will Mt 5.0 suppose nvidia RTX 2080 and raytrace scenes with realistic lighting and textures :PPP 17:36 Mr_Pardison_ I suppose 17:40 tenplus1 :P 17:59 tenplus1 wb 17:59 VanessaE tenplus1: well, done anything with the marquee yet? ;) 18:00 tenplus1 heh, not yet... playing with new builtin_item features and trying to make special effects 18:00 VanessaE (one of my users mentioned making a proper "Times Square" display with it ;), though the mod can't wrap text around a building corner :P ) 18:00 Bobr ty ten 18:00 tenplus1 maybe in next release it can :D 18:01 VanessaE maybe. :P 18:34 VanessaE tenplus1: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=20651 (reload it and expand "More screenshots...") 18:34 tenplus1 wow, many characters... reminds me of c64 basic :D ehehe 18:35 VanessaE it's VERY loosely based on the C64 font, actually, since that one's 8x8 px also. 18:35 tenplus1 kewl :))) 18:35 tenplus1 I wonder how many servers will use marquee scrolls instead of text 18:35 VanessaE (with some inspiration from DOS Code Page 437 ("ANSI") 18:35 tenplus1 *text = signs 19:51 Krock Just an ordinary chat. https://i.imgur.com/mbYDcaj.png 19:51 Krock COLOR OVERDOSE 19:51 * tenplus1 bleeds from the eyes 19:54 * Krock gives tenplus1 fresh blood so that they don't die by accident 19:54 tenplus1 lol thanks 19:55 tenplus1 finished special feature for ehtereal :) 19:55 tenplus1 drop 2x mese crystals and 2x crystal spikes into a poolof water and they merge to become 1x crystal ingot 19:56 Mr_Pardison_ oh cool. 19:56 Mr_Pardison_ automatic crafting machine without the need to make one :D 19:56 VanessaE Krock: oh dear G*d. 19:56 tenplus1 tinkering with builin special do_customs :) if you drop gunpowder on something lit it burns up also 19:58 Krock VanessaE: it was fun for a while but now stripping the colors because it's a bit too colorful 19:58 tenplus1 heh 19:59 VanessaE heh 19:59 Krock Minetest should also support background colors.. but they seem to be broken 20:03 tenplus1 that would be very handy indeed 20:05 Krock Very handy indeed 20:06 tenplus1 https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/builtin_item/src/master/README.md check examples at bottom krock 20:06 Mr_Pardison_ extremely handy when in a snow biome and you're chatting with someone else. 20:08 Krock tenplus1: sounds good, but when more than one mod want to make use of it, then they'll also have to access minetest.registered_entities[name].dropped_step to extend the function 20:08 tenplus1 hopefully not too many special features being added... would prolly depend on the game type or adventure map 20:09 tenplus1 wb ben 20:17 tenplus1 nite folks o// 20:31 Megaf [20:51:31] Just an ordinary chat. https://i.imgur.com/mbYDcaj.png 20:31 Megaf [20:51:44] COLOR OVERDOSE 20:31 Megaf I wish I hadn't opened that 20:34 Krock Megaf: because it's a beauty. Would probably fit onto an A4 paper. Add a frame around and attach that piece of art to your wall 20:36 Megaf Man, If I had your address I could very well do that and ship to ya 20:59 Jordach "you can't use textured skyboxes with the dynamic skybox" 20:59 sofar fail 20:59 Jordach sofar: https://i.imgur.com/0nGnOvt.png 20:59 Jordach indeed you can 21:00 sofar mmm pink sky 21:00 Jordach with a bit more hacking and effort i could probably extend set_sky 21:00 Megaf Jordach: !!!!!!!!! 21:00 Jordach stars and moon also render 21:00 Megaf Greetings :D 21:00 Jordach sofar: even better, that's the dynamic atmos2 skybox 21:01 Jordach https://i.imgur.com/7JiGaD2.png 21:01 Megaf [15:46:26] anyone here with Autism or Aspergers? Pop in #Minetest-Chat to chat maybe? 21:02 Megaf is that even Minetest? It looks awesome 21:02 Jordach i have done nothing but fiddle with game.cpp and sky.cpp 21:02 Jordach some how it works 21:02 Jordach i'm not complaining 21:03 Jordach but i'll probably add a new skybox def, "combo" 21:03 Jordach >tfw you have absolutely 0 C++ experience and are winging it 21:07 Megaf Jordach: by the way, the heck? Linux? 21:07 Megaf you? 21:08 Jordach yes 21:08 Jordach compiling is an arse on windows 21:08 * Mr_Pardison_ gasps in shock 21:08 Mr_Pardison_ not at the compiling part. that I get. 21:08 Jordach Mr_Pardison_: you mean someone figured out how to combine a textured skybox with the dynamic one? 21:08 Jordach ;) 21:09 Mr_Pardison_ about Megaf's comment on it. 21:09 ChimneySwift it's easy to compile once you get it set up lol 21:09 ChimneySwift only took me an entire day 21:09 ChimneySwift XD 21:09 Megaf Jordach: did you see my GitHub issue on the toold to easy the building on Windows? 21:11 Megaf Jordach: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7642 21:11 Megaf gotta go buy coco pops ceral, brb 21:11 ChimneySwift XD 21:14 Jordach https://i.imgur.com/AyLu21F.png 21:14 Jordach SO CLOES 21:14 Mr_Pardison_ almots there! 21:16 Jordach i'm suspecting that's the sunrise glowtexture 21:17 Jordach it isn#t 21:19 Jordach while i'm at it, i'll fix the stars so they actually use alpha instead of turning to black 21:25 Fixer o_o 21:32 Jordach Fixer: lmao zbuffer issues 21:34 Fixer Jordach: translucency? 21:35 Jordach Fixer: whoever wrote the dynamic skybox needs a kicking 21:35 Jordach things you do not do: 21:36 Jordach disable the zbuffer and draw on top of all the things 21:36 Jordach place tris and verts in matching positions to cause z-fighting 21:37 Jordach Fixer: https://i.imgur.com/4BqDhWc.png 21:41 Jordach paramat: who would win: textured skyboxes or the dynamic ones 21:41 Jordach https://i.imgur.com/SYzaMpk.png 21:44 paramat are they going to fight? 21:48 Jordach paramat: there's a textured skybox there with the moon and stars visible 21:55 paramat nice looking screenshots 22:03 Jordach paramat: it's a hack on top of the dynamic skybox hack 23:13 rubenwardy WTF 23:13 rubenwardy my PS1 has randomly broken 23:17 Mr_Pardison_ well, it's old, right? 23:18 rubenwardy huh, resetting the file works 23:19 rubenwardy weird 23:46 Fixer he probably means BASH console variable 23:46 Fixer https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-unix-bash-shell-setup-prompt.html