Time  Nick          Message
08:30 VanessaE      has anyone seen ShadowNinja recently?  I mean him actually speaking?
09:35 shivajiva     ShadowNinja can speak, I don't believe you!
09:36 VanessaE      :P
09:37 shivajiva     he's just this ever present, always away, name in the list
09:38 VanessaE      some issues need his attention and he's....  not been around :P
09:39 shivajiva     I'm kidding, I saw him speak in -dev once, maybe 2 years ago XD
09:56 shivajiva     morning Bobr o/
09:57 Bobr          morning shivajiva
10:02 Bobr          im gonna rage if Plebs keeps talking
12:31 Bobr          IhrFussel, be carefull hes trouble
12:32 IhrFussel     "long time no see" lol I don't remember him at all
12:32 Bobr          IhrFussel, this is gonna be fun
12:32 IhrFussel     sama is a troublemaker too?
12:32 IhrFussel     They seem related
12:33 ThomasMonroe  Sama is just a kid that like to have fun, not a troublemaker
12:33 ThomasMonroe  likes*
12:34 Bobr          hes trouble when he doesnt get his way
12:34 IhrFussel     Why being friends with a known troublemaker then though? o.o
12:34 ThomasMonroe  I didn't know sama was known for being a trouble maker
12:35 Bobr          hes always breaking rules
12:35 ThomasMonroe  last time I checked, you swore on my server even whenit was against the rules as well.
12:36 Bobr          ik
12:36 Bobr          but i aint a mod there
12:37 IhrFussel     So it's just swearing? Not anything worse?
12:37 ThomasMonroe  basically
12:37 Bobr          long time ago i did worse
12:37 ThomasMonroe  I've never known Sama to swear though
12:37 ThomasMonroe  but I haven't been there alot lately
12:39 Bobr          lmao thomasmonroe plebs doesnt like me so he refuses to give me voice
12:40 ThomasMonroe  well, you sided with the people who hacked my server, what'd you expect?
12:40 Bobr          theres no proof they hacked
12:41 ThomasMonroe  have you asked DI3 for any?
12:41 ThomasMonroe  he was there when it happened
12:42 Bobr          apparently they messed with the PAM files the last time they were accused and plebs refuses to proovide proof
12:43 ThomasMonroe  probably because he didn't have access or DI3 told him not to give it out
12:44 IhrFussel     Hack? But not through Minetest right?
12:44 Bobr          mhm any ways i offered Plebs a new server thats willing to have all the people
12:45 ThomasMonroe  well BillyS used a modified client to get onto my server with privs that he didn't have
12:46 ThomasMonroe  xerox kept ban-evading with his VPN
12:46 Bobr          yes but that all got sorted deals got made to sort that out
12:48 Bobr          anways whats happened happened
12:48 ThomasMonroe  I know we made an agreement, but they can't act all innocent when the agreement gets broken
12:48 ThomasMonroe  yeah
12:48 ThomasMonroe  I'm probably gonna shut the server down
12:49 Bobr          why though whats the point its such a popular server
12:49 ThomasMonroe  all it does is cause trouble and I don't have the time to fix it up
12:50 Bobr          ill do it
12:51 ThomasMonroe  ok, but don't say I didn't warn you. I'll let Di3 know
12:51 Bobr          ok
12:52 ThomasMonroe  everyone, I'm sorry I let my serve become a bad example of a MT server, I hope you all can forgive me.
12:52 Bobr          eh its not your fault thomas
12:53 ThomasMonroe  I should have stopped it earlier last year though
12:53 ThomasMonroe  not the server, the problems
12:53 Bobr          you would be baning everyone though
12:54 ThomasMonroe  ik :/
12:54 Bobr          i got good plans for it
12:54 ThomasMonroe  I sure hope so
12:54 ThomasMonroe  gl to ya
12:54 Bobr          thank you
12:56 longerstaff13 all the shit done? yes? good
12:59 Jordach       >children acting like children
13:11 BillyS        Wait
13:11 BillyS        ThomasMonroe gave the server to Bobr?
13:11 ThomasMonroe  no
13:11 ThomasMonroe  I shut it down
13:11 Bobr          and im bringing it back up
13:11 BillyS        Oh
13:11 * BillyS      is confuzzled
13:11 BillyS        So ThomasMonroe is the owner but Bobr is the admin?
13:11 ThomasMonroe  o
13:12 ThomasMonroe  no
13:12 BillyS        Clarify plz then. :P
13:12 ThomasMonroe  I am no longer owner
13:12 BillyS        okay
13:12 BillyS        And Bobr picked up your role, so to speak, so I guess that makes Bobr owner.
13:40 Bobr          shivajiva pm me
15:18 IcyDiamond    How do I detect when a player walked on a node
15:20 Bobr          u can detect when they broke a noe
15:20 Bobr          node
15:21 IcyDiamond    guess ill just use get_objects_inside_radius
15:21 Bobr          yep
15:25 IcyDiamond    yay my dialled teleporters work
15:28 BillyS        There was a revolution in LoS
15:28 BillyS        Plebs is gone
15:29 xerox123      be wary of someone called "Plebs". he's probably out looking to colonize another server
15:29 BillyS        Most of the dev know about him
15:29 BillyS        He basically said they had no idea what they were doing when writing minetest
15:30 ThomasMonroe  which may or may not have been accurate xD
15:31 BillyS        lol
15:48 IhrFussel     I think he declared my server as "non-suitable" for him =P
15:51 Bobr          forr Plebs IhrFussel ?
15:51 IhrFussel     Yeah he left after some time and didn't seem to indicate that he will be back soon
15:52 Bobr          he probaly wont
15:52 IhrFussel     He's looking for a server where he can act the way he wants
15:52 IhrFussel     I think
15:58 Bobr          aha thats exactly true
16:18 IhrFussel     Is sama 11 years old or why "2007"?
16:18 Bobr          11
16:18 IhrFussel     And Plebs? Not known?
16:20 shivajiva     I think the time has come to stop Pleb bashing in this channel folks...
16:21 Bobr          PLebs like 27?
16:29 Mr_Pardison   Has anyone ever come up with a game of billiards that you can actually play in the game?
17:35 Shara         Bobr: if you are going to run LoS, might I suggest very strongly that you don't allow players who are known impersonators or other people?
17:35 Shara         of*
17:46 Bobr          theres someone called SIAP oi los
17:46 Shara         Bit slow Bobr :)
17:46 Bobr          ik
17:46 Bobr          is he bad?
17:47 Shara         Let's move it to PM maybe.
17:47 Bobr          join ##talk
17:48 Bobr          act dont
17:52 Krock         guys.. I found out why the player jumps on entities
17:52 Krock         jumps.. jitters
17:52 Krock         this collision engine. best code ever
17:57 Krock         the distance for objects to check is simply assumed: speed * 1.5 seconds
17:58 Krock         but speed is 0 when they on the bottom face
18:00 Bobr          Plebs?
18:01 IhrFussel     Yep, just joined
18:05 Bobr          <faratsga> I had a goal: to make LOS the best place for players. But the target is destroyed, since you removed the Plebs. I can go further to this goal. But I need your trust
18:06 Bobr          yep
18:08 Krock         What's this? A parkour for ants? https://i.imgur.com/YM9zV0X.png
18:10 Shara         Krock: maybe modern art?
18:10 Krock         maybe
18:11 Mr_Pardison   I call anything that I make that looks odd modern art :P
18:12 Fixer         Krock: unknown node in background
18:13 Krock         Fixer: probably a pipeworks node.. not sure
18:19 BillyS        LOOOl
18:19 BillyS        I hope he uses Survival X. xD
18:20 xerox123      [off[ he changed to his normal suit skin
18:21 Krock         xerox123: failed
18:21 xerox123      ooopsie
18:23 Bobr          which channel is it
18:26 Krock         hi Jordach
18:29 BillyS        Dont u juke me b0i
18:35 Krock         Testing tenplus1' simple_skins mod. Looks like that one can be crashed easily
18:35 Shara         Krock: maybe tell Ten before announcing then?
18:36 Krock         Not telling how to crash it. Will submit a PR as soon I could
18:36 Shara         :)
18:37 Krock         hello paramat
18:40 Krock         Does anyone know whether the unified_inventory integration of simple_skins is a public mod yet?
18:40 Krock         (LoS server)
18:42 Shara         Krock: why not check the mod?
18:42 Shara         If it isn't in Ten's version it's likely some custom whatever they created
18:43 Krock         Shara: so it's custom
18:43 Shara         That would be my guess.
18:43 Shara         Ten deleted things from github, so not sure there'd be any way to check forks of the mod there easily now
18:46 IhrFussel     I just found out that MT doesn't do anything when a player teleports to themselves it seems
18:47 IhrFussel     I mean I send a tp request to myself at one pos then at the other I accept it -> nothing happens
18:48 sofar         you probably shouldn't even be able to send a request to yourself to begin with
18:55 Shara         Fussel, /teleport or the teleport request mod?
19:02 IhrFussel     Shara, my own custom teleport code, but all it does is a sender:set_pos(target:get_pos()) ... the engine just seems to ignore the tp "motion" when you tp to yourself
19:05 shivajiva     which is the expected behavior surely?
19:09 Fixer         CHAPA!
19:10 IhrFussel     It may be expected/intended... just interesting to see that MT knows the difference between setting same player's pos and setting pos between 2 different players
19:11 Krock         boom. simple_skins crashed. PR time :D
19:12 Shara         I've observed teleporting yourself to yourself changing position before.
19:12 IhrFussel     Krock, you tested unified_inventory on my server correct? Exploit is now fixed there I think
19:12 Krock         IhrFussel: yes, we even set that one up together
19:13 IhrFussel     Oh it was just the bag one? I thought there might be another
19:13 Krock         no, it's just the bags. I don't know of another possible crash with the mod yet
19:13 IhrFussel     Shara, you mean you can confirm the behavior I described? Or was it different in your tests?
19:15 Shara         I just noticed before that, for example, /teleport Shara Shara would cause my position to change a bit
19:15 Krock         Shara: welcome to writeF1000()
19:15 Shara         Heh
19:15 Krock         it's also the client that ignores such small changes to be sent to the server
19:16 Shara         But point was, MT did seem to be doing something when I teleported to myself
19:16 Krock         would be nonsense to update it each step without that anything has changed
19:16 Krock         yes, if you move backwards, it'll teleport you forwards
19:16 Krock         the server has less up to date information than the client
19:16 Krock         and teleporting forces the client to set its position
19:17 Jordach       oh
19:17 Krock         lovely. same HTTP error 500 as before when I submit a PR on notabug
19:23 * Krock       gives Bobr_ a SASL login
19:24 Bobr_         lol
19:24 Bobr_         why?
19:25 Krock         Bobr_: your real host is visible before switching the vhost/cloak
19:26 xerox123      yaySASL
19:33 Bobr_         llmao 1 kill away from fortnite win
19:59 IhrFussel     Is "Teleport successful" correct grammar?
19:59 IhrFussel     I think it's either teleportation or teleporting
20:22 Shara         teleport is fine
20:28 Fixer         Teleportation has been succesful, commander!
21:00 tumeninodes   you mean it could 'use' an update? I have not updated my kernel in quite some time...
21:13 tumeninodes   another duel it is :D
21:14 A-Hamilton    no.
21:14 A-Hamilton    just joining a server and I don't want to get pinged when I speak in game.
21:15 rubenwardy    Qué
21:16 tumeninodes   Si
21:16 A-Hamilton    da
21:16 rubenwardy    Ffs
21:16 rubenwardy    Why does auto renew never work
21:18 tumeninodes   auto renew only works with billing
21:19 paramat       as far as i know the IRC CTCP message is related to securtiy measures against the recent spam
21:20 BillyS        Hmm
21:20 BillyS        I'm trying to make a "headless" minetest client
21:20 BillyS        Is there some easy way to remove the window?
21:20 BillyS        I would assume not
21:20 BillyS        But I thought I would check before going to all the work
21:21 rubenwardy    argh
21:21 rubenwardy    looks like the best way is to run a DNS server on my machine, and alias verification requests to it
21:22 tumeninodes   "recent spam"??? ohhhh, you mean my fentanyl distribution services???    woops
21:25 tumeninodes   brb
21:27 rubenwardy    infg
21:27 rubenwardy    *omfg
21:29 rubenwardy    fixed, tumeninodes
21:29 rubenwardy    my god that was painful
22:16 IcyDiamond    How would I build minetest to create an AppImage out of it?
22:16 IcyDiamond    run in place or install to some prefix dir?
22:16 Fixer         ask Calinou
22:16 * IcyDiamond  pings Calinou
22:16 tumeninodes   rubenwardy: nice ty, glad it worked
22:17 IcyDiamond    cuz i tried installing into a prefix dir but running the result gives me a "execv error: Permission denied"
22:19 Calinou       hi :) installing it to a custom CMake prefix is the easiest
22:19 Calinou       cmake . -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX="$(pwd)/appdir/usr/bin"
22:19 Calinou       I think this will do
22:19 Calinou       (it'll create an appdir/ folder in your Minetest source repository)
22:19 Calinou       then you do "make && sudo make install"
22:19 Calinou       make install* actually, you don't need sudo here
22:20 IcyDiamond    but after packaging it, I get execv error: Permission denied
22:20 Calinou       then you should be able to feed that folder to linuxdeployqt directly (https://github.com/probonopd/linuxdeployqt)
22:20 IcyDiamond    when i run the AppImage
22:20 Calinou       it's recommended to use linuxdeployqt over appimagetool, it handles library bundling for you
22:20 IcyDiamond    hmm
22:21 Calinou       this is how I create Godot AppImages, for the record: https://github.com/Calinou/godot-builds-ci/blob/master/scripts/gitlab-ci/build/linux_editor.sh#L24-L31
22:21 Calinou       I don't know where I put my Minetest build scripts, sorry
22:21 IcyDiamond    ohh right, I knew I recognized your name from somewhere, you also work on Godot :)
22:21 tumeninodes   ugh, signing off... yet another electrical storm incoming... been far too many this summer \o
22:25 IcyDiamond    Calinou: That did the trick, thank you :)
22:26 Fixer         fucking win https://visualelsewhere.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/a31392.jpg
22:35 aerozoic      Is it possible for clients to control the size of their hotbar?
22:36 aerozoic      the number of slots i mean.
22:39 paramat       yes seems so
22:39 paramat       oh, clients ..
22:39 paramat       server probably controls it
22:41 paramat       yes
22:41 paramat       but it looks like it can be set per-player
22:42 paramat       so a mod could allow a player to choose hotbar size
22:42 A-Hamilton    paramat: there is a mod that allows 16 slots but the player controlling the number of slots I haven't come across one.
22:43 A-Hamilton    lemme find the link.
22:43 paramat       yeah not surprised
22:43 A-Hamilton    https://github.com/askotos/hotbar
22:43 paramat       so it's the good approach of: client could have the freedom but only if the server chooses
22:44 Shara         A-Hamilton: you beat me to it :P
22:45 A-Hamilton    many channels, many things going on.
22:51 IcyDiamond    should i start publishing AppImage builds of 5.0?
22:51 IcyDiamond    on the forums i mean
22:52 Fixer         Why not?
22:53 IcyDiamond    ok
22:55 IcyDiamond    tried to send it to my gf, she got GLIBCXX errors
22:55 IcyDiamond    so i guess i wont
22:55 IcyDiamond    xd
22:55 Fixer         lol
22:56 IcyDiamond    these GLIBCXX version not found errors are driving me insane
22:56 IcyDiamond    why is it just minetest that does this shit
22:58 paramat       low wages
22:59 A-Hamilton    ok gn everyone
22:59 IcyDiamond    :D
22:59 IcyDiamond    idk how to work around this
22:59 IcyDiamond    the whole reason im doing this appimage shit is to avoid building stuff
22:59 IcyDiamond    xd
23:03 IcyDiamond    guess ill just have to make a .4.17 server