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IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2018-08-02

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08:30 VanessaE has anyone seen ShadowNinja recently?  I mean him actually speaking?
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09:35 shivajiva ShadowNinja can speak, I don't believe you!
09:36 VanessaE :P
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09:37 shivajiva he's just this ever present, always away, name in the list
09:38 VanessaE some issues need his attention and he's....  not been around :P
09:39 shivajiva I'm kidding, I saw him speak in -dev once, maybe 2 years ago XD
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09:56 shivajiva morning Bobr o/
09:57 Bobr morning shivajiva
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10:02 Bobr im gonna rage if Plebs keeps talking
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12:31 Bobr IhrFussel, be carefull hes trouble
12:32 IhrFussel "long time no see" lol I don't remember him at all
12:32 Bobr IhrFussel, this is gonna be fun
12:32 IhrFussel sama is a troublemaker too?
12:32 IhrFussel They seem related
12:33 ThomasMonroe Sama is just a kid that like to have fun, not a troublemaker
12:33 ThomasMonroe likes*
12:34 Bobr hes trouble when he doesnt get his way
12:34 IhrFussel Why being friends with a known troublemaker then though? o.o
12:34 ThomasMonroe I didn't know sama was known for being a trouble maker
12:35 Bobr hes always breaking rules
12:35 ThomasMonroe last time I checked, you swore on my server even whenit was against the rules as well.
12:36 Bobr ik
12:36 Bobr but i aint a mod there
12:37 IhrFussel So it's just swearing? Not anything worse?
12:37 ThomasMonroe basically
12:37 Bobr long time ago i did worse
12:37 ThomasMonroe I've never known Sama to swear though
12:37 ThomasMonroe but I haven't been there alot lately
12:39 Bobr lmao thomasmonroe plebs doesnt like me so he refuses to give me voice
12:40 ThomasMonroe well, you sided with the people who hacked my server, what'd you expect?
12:40 Bobr theres no proof they hacked
12:41 ThomasMonroe have you asked DI3 for any?
12:41 ThomasMonroe he was there when it happened
12:42 Bobr apparently they messed with the PAM files the last time they were accused and plebs refuses to proovide proof
12:43 ThomasMonroe probably because he didn't have access or DI3 told him not to give it out
12:44 IhrFussel Hack? But not through Minetest right?
12:44 Bobr mhm any ways i offered Plebs a new server thats willing to have all the people
12:45 ThomasMonroe well BillyS used a modified client to get onto my server with privs that he didn't have
12:46 ThomasMonroe xerox kept ban-evading with his VPN
12:46 Bobr yes but that all got sorted deals got made to sort that out
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12:48 Bobr anways whats happened happened
12:48 ThomasMonroe I know we made an agreement, but they can't act all innocent when the agreement gets broken
12:48 ThomasMonroe yeah
12:48 ThomasMonroe I'm probably gonna shut the server down
12:49 Bobr why though whats the point its such a popular server
12:49 ThomasMonroe all it does is cause trouble and I don't have the time to fix it up
12:50 Bobr ill do it
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12:51 ThomasMonroe ok, but don't say I didn't warn you. I'll let Di3 know
12:51 Bobr ok
12:52 ThomasMonroe everyone, I'm sorry I let my serve become a bad example of a MT server, I hope you all can forgive me.
12:52 Bobr eh its not your fault thomas
12:53 ThomasMonroe I should have stopped it earlier last year though
12:53 ThomasMonroe not the server, the problems
12:53 Bobr you would be baning everyone though
12:54 ThomasMonroe ik :/
12:54 Bobr i got good plans for it
12:54 ThomasMonroe I sure hope so
12:54 ThomasMonroe gl to ya
12:54 Bobr thank you
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12:56 longerstaff13 all the shit done? yes? good
12:59 Jordach >children acting like children
13:11 BillyS Wait
13:11 BillyS ThomasMonroe gave the server to Bobr?
13:11 ThomasMonroe no
13:11 ThomasMonroe I shut it down
13:11 Bobr and im bringing it back up
13:11 BillyS Oh
13:11 * BillyS is confuzzled
13:11 BillyS So ThomasMonroe is the owner but Bobr is the admin?
13:11 ThomasMonroe o
13:12 ThomasMonroe no
13:12 BillyS Clarify plz then. :P
13:12 ThomasMonroe I am no longer owner
13:12 BillyS okay
13:12 BillyS And Bobr picked up your role, so to speak, so I guess that makes Bobr owner.
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13:40 Bobr shivajiva pm me
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15:18 IcyDiamond How do I detect when a player walked on a node
15:20 Bobr u can detect when they broke a noe
15:20 Bobr node
15:21 IcyDiamond guess ill just use get_objects_inside_radius
15:21 Bobr yep
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15:25 IcyDiamond yay my dialled teleporters work
15:28 BillyS There was a revolution in LoS
15:28 BillyS Plebs is gone
15:29 xerox123 be wary of someone called "Plebs". he's probably out looking to colonize another server
15:29 BillyS Most of the dev know about him
15:29 BillyS He basically said they had no idea what they were doing when writing minetest
15:30 ThomasMonroe which may or may not have been accurate xD
15:31 BillyS lol
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15:48 IhrFussel I think he declared my server as "non-suitable" for him =P
15:51 Bobr forr Plebs IhrFussel ?
15:51 IhrFussel Yeah he left after some time and didn't seem to indicate that he will be back soon
15:52 Bobr he probaly wont
15:52 IhrFussel He's looking for a server where he can act the way he wants
15:52 IhrFussel I think
15:58 Bobr aha thats exactly true
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16:18 IhrFussel Is sama 11 years old or why "2007"?
16:18 Bobr 11
16:18 IhrFussel And Plebs? Not known?
16:20 shivajiva I think the time has come to stop Pleb bashing in this channel folks...
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16:21 Bobr PLebs like 27?
16:29 Mr_Pardison Has anyone ever come up with a game of billiards that you can actually play in the game?
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17:35 Shara Bobr: if you are going to run LoS, might I suggest very strongly that you don't allow players who are known impersonators or other people?
17:35 Shara of*
17:46 Bobr theres someone called SIAP oi los
17:46 Shara Bit slow Bobr :)
17:46 Bobr ik
17:46 Bobr is he bad?
17:47 Shara Let's move it to PM maybe.
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17:48 Bobr act dont
17:52 Krock guys.. I found out why the player jumps on entities
17:52 Krock jumps.. jitters
17:52 Krock this collision engine. best code ever
17:57 Krock the distance for objects to check is simply assumed: speed * 1.5 seconds
17:58 Krock but speed is 0 when they on the bottom face
18:00 Bobr Plebs?
18:01 IhrFussel Yep, just joined
18:05 Bobr <faratsga> I had a goal: to make LOS the best place for players. But the target is destroyed, since you removed the Plebs. I can go further to this goal. But I need your trust
18:06 Bobr yep
18:08 Krock What's this? A parkour for ants? https://i.imgur.com/YM9zV0X.png
18:10 Shara Krock: maybe modern art?
18:10 Krock maybe
18:11 Mr_Pardison I call anything that I make that looks odd modern art :P
18:12 Fixer Krock: unknown node in background
18:13 Krock Fixer: probably a pipeworks node.. not sure
18:19 BillyS LOOOl
18:19 BillyS I hope he uses Survival X. xD
18:20 xerox123 [off[ he changed to his normal suit skin
18:21 Krock xerox123: failed
18:21 xerox123 ooopsie
18:23 Bobr which channel is it
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18:26 Krock hi Jordach
18:29 BillyS Dont u juke me b0i
18:35 Krock Testing tenplus1' simple_skins mod. Looks like that one can be crashed easily
18:35 Shara Krock: maybe tell Ten before announcing then?
18:36 Krock Not telling how to crash it. Will submit a PR as soon I could
18:36 Shara :)
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18:37 Krock hello paramat
18:40 Krock Does anyone know whether the unified_inventory integration of simple_skins is a public mod yet?
18:40 Krock (LoS server)
18:42 Shara Krock: why not check the mod?
18:42 Shara If it isn't in Ten's version it's likely some custom whatever they created
18:43 Krock Shara: so it's custom
18:43 Shara That would be my guess.
18:43 Shara Ten deleted things from github, so not sure there'd be any way to check forks of the mod there easily now
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18:46 IhrFussel I just found out that MT doesn't do anything when a player teleports to themselves it seems
18:47 IhrFussel I mean I send a tp request to myself at one pos then at the other I accept it -> nothing happens
18:48 sofar you probably shouldn't even be able to send a request to yourself to begin with
18:55 Shara Fussel, /teleport or the teleport request mod?
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19:02 IhrFussel Shara, my own custom teleport code, but all it does is a sender:set_pos(target:get_pos()) ... the engine just seems to ignore the tp "motion" when you tp to yourself
19:05 shivajiva which is the expected behavior surely?
19:09 Fixer CHAPA!
19:10 IhrFussel It may be expected/intended... just interesting to see that MT knows the difference between setting same player's pos and setting pos between 2 different players
19:11 Krock boom. simple_skins crashed. PR time :D
19:12 Shara I've observed teleporting yourself to yourself changing position before.
19:12 IhrFussel Krock, you tested unified_inventory on my server correct? Exploit is now fixed there I think
19:12 Krock IhrFussel: yes, we even set that one up together
19:13 IhrFussel Oh it was just the bag one? I thought there might be another
19:13 Krock no, it's just the bags. I don't know of another possible crash with the mod yet
19:13 IhrFussel Shara, you mean you can confirm the behavior I described? Or was it different in your tests?
19:15 Shara I just noticed before that, for example, /teleport Shara Shara would cause my position to change a bit
19:15 Krock Shara: welcome to writeF1000()
19:15 Shara Heh
19:15 Krock it's also the client that ignores such small changes to be sent to the server
19:16 Shara But point was, MT did seem to be doing something when I teleported to myself
19:16 Krock would be nonsense to update it each step without that anything has changed
19:16 Krock yes, if you move backwards, it'll teleport you forwards
19:16 Krock the server has less up to date information than the client
19:16 Krock and teleporting forces the client to set its position
19:17 Jordach oh
19:17 Krock lovely. same HTTP error 500 as before when I submit a PR on notabug
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19:23 * Krock gives Bobr_ a SASL login
19:24 Bobr_ lol
19:24 Bobr_ why?
19:25 Krock Bobr_: your real host is visible before switching the vhost/cloak
19:26 xerox123 yaySASL
19:33 Bobr_ llmao 1 kill away from fortnite win
19:59 IhrFussel Is "Teleport successful" correct grammar?
19:59 IhrFussel I think it's either teleportation or teleporting
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20:22 Shara teleport is fine
20:28 Fixer Teleportation has been succesful, commander!
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21:00 tumeninodes you mean it could 'use' an update? I have not updated my kernel in quite some time...
21:13 tumeninodes another duel it is :D
21:14 A-Hamilton no.
21:14 A-Hamilton just joining a server and I don't want to get pinged when I speak in game.
21:15 rubenwardy Qué
21:16 tumeninodes Si
21:16 A-Hamilton da
21:16 rubenwardy Ffs
21:16 rubenwardy Why does auto renew never work
21:18 tumeninodes auto renew only works with billing
21:19 paramat as far as i know the IRC CTCP message is related to securtiy measures against the recent spam
21:20 BillyS Hmm
21:20 BillyS I'm trying to make a "headless" minetest client
21:20 BillyS Is there some easy way to remove the window?
21:20 BillyS I would assume not
21:20 BillyS But I thought I would check before going to all the work
21:21 rubenwardy argh
21:21 rubenwardy looks like the best way is to run a DNS server on my machine, and alias verification requests to it
21:22 tumeninodes "recent spam"??? ohhhh, you mean my fentanyl distribution services???    woops
21:25 tumeninodes brb
21:27 rubenwardy infg
21:27 rubenwardy *omfg
21:29 rubenwardy fixed, tumeninodes
21:29 rubenwardy my god that was painful
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22:16 IcyDiamond How would I build minetest to create an AppImage out of it?
22:16 IcyDiamond run in place or install to some prefix dir?
22:16 Fixer ask Calinou
22:16 * IcyDiamond pings Calinou
22:16 tumeninodes rubenwardy: nice ty, glad it worked
22:17 IcyDiamond cuz i tried installing into a prefix dir but running the result gives me a "execv error: Permission denied"
22:19 Calinou hi :) installing it to a custom CMake prefix is the easiest
22:19 Calinou cmake . -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX="$(pwd)/appdir/usr/bin"
22:19 Calinou I think this will do
22:19 Calinou (it'll create an appdir/ folder in your Minetest source repository)
22:19 Calinou then you do "make && sudo make install"
22:19 Calinou make install* actually, you don't need sudo here
22:20 IcyDiamond but after packaging it, I get execv error: Permission denied
22:20 Calinou then you should be able to feed that folder to linuxdeployqt directly (https://github.com/probonopd/linuxdeployqt)
22:20 IcyDiamond when i run the AppImage
22:20 Calinou it's recommended to use linuxdeployqt over appimagetool, it handles library bundling for you
22:20 IcyDiamond hmm
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22:21 Calinou this is how I create Godot AppImages, for the record: https://github.com/Calinou/godot-builds-ci/blob/master/scripts/gitlab-ci/build/linux_editor.sh#L24-L31
22:21 Calinou I don't know where I put my Minetest build scripts, sorry
22:21 IcyDiamond ohh right, I knew I recognized your name from somewhere, you also work on Godot :)
22:21 tumeninodes ugh, signing off... yet another electrical storm incoming... been far too many this summer \o
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22:25 IcyDiamond Calinou: That did the trick, thank you :)
22:26 Fixer fucking win https://visualelsewhere.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/a31392.jpg
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22:35 aerozoic Is it possible for clients to control the size of their hotbar?
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22:36 aerozoic the number of slots i mean.
22:39 paramat yes seems so
22:39 paramat oh, clients ..
22:39 paramat server probably controls it
22:41 paramat yes
22:41 paramat but it looks like it can be set per-player
22:42 paramat so a mod could allow a player to choose hotbar size
22:42 A-Hamilton paramat: there is a mod that allows 16 slots but the player controlling the number of slots I haven't come across one.
22:43 A-Hamilton lemme find the link.
22:43 paramat yeah not surprised
22:43 A-Hamilton https://github.com/askotos/hotbar
22:43 paramat so it's the good approach of: client could have the freedom but only if the server chooses
22:44 Shara A-Hamilton: you beat me to it :P
22:45 A-Hamilton many channels, many things going on.
22:51 IcyDiamond should i start publishing AppImage builds of 5.0?
22:51 IcyDiamond on the forums i mean
22:52 Fixer Why not?
22:53 IcyDiamond ok
22:55 IcyDiamond tried to send it to my gf, she got GLIBCXX errors
22:55 IcyDiamond so i guess i wont
22:55 IcyDiamond xd
22:55 Fixer lol
22:56 IcyDiamond these GLIBCXX version not found errors are driving me insane
22:56 IcyDiamond why is it just minetest that does this shit
22:58 paramat low wages
22:59 A-Hamilton ok gn everyone
22:59 IcyDiamond :D
22:59 IcyDiamond idk how to work around this
22:59 IcyDiamond the whole reason im doing this appimage shit is to avoid building stuff
22:59 IcyDiamond xd
23:03 IcyDiamond guess ill just have to make a .4.17 server
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