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07:58 IcyDiamond o/
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10:46 rubenwardy https://github.com/shivajiva101/sauth/pull/9
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10:48 tenplus1 hi folks
10:48 tenplus1 could someone help me with a mesecons problem
10:50 VanessaE it's mesecons, no one can help with THAT monstrosity ;Z)
10:50 VanessaE ;)
10:50 tenplus1 lol
10:50 tenplus1 the mesecon switch, when right clicked turns on/off and powers any cables beside it
10:51 VanessaE yes, so long as they're connected to it.
10:51 tenplus1 but... if I call on_rightclick the node turns on/off as usual but doesnt power cables
10:51 VanessaE odd.
10:51 tenplus1 very
10:51 tenplus1 def.on_rightclick(pos, self.node, user) should act the same way as if a player has done it
11:00 tenplus1 https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/bows/src/master/items.lua#L114 is boggling my mind!
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11:04 tenplus1 hi longer
11:05 longerstaff13 o/
11:05 longerstaff13 forgot to add these channels when I switched ZNCs
11:05 longerstaff13 (sorry :P)
11:05 tenplus1 lol
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11:20 tenplus1 hi aerozoic
11:20 aerozoic wazup tenplus1!
11:21 tenplus1 trying to figure out something weird... how's you ?
11:21 aerozoic yes i know i'm weird XD
11:21 tenplus1 lol
11:21 aerozoic So good luck with that! LOL
11:22 tenplus1 thankfully it's not you :D ehehe
11:22 aerozoic Oh well then maybe you have a chance :)
11:23 tenplus1 udpated bows mod, working smoother :D
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11:31 tenplus1 hi Krock
11:31 Krock hi tenplus1
11:31 Krock :D
11:31 tenplus1 :P you busy ?
11:31 Krock updating a mod.. but not more
11:32 tenplus1 I have a mesecon puzzle if your up for it
11:32 tenplus1 https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/bows/src/master/items.lua#L114
11:32 Krock oh, that kind of mesecon puzzle
11:32 Krock I thought of a circuit
11:32 tenplus1 that wee snippet calls the on_rightclick for the mesecon switch
11:33 tenplus1 but... ti changes the node only, doesnt activate any wires or lights connected to said switch... but... rightclicking it normally works ok
11:33 Krock so "self.node.name" is the same as core.get_node(pos).name ?
11:34 Krock 2nd argument of your on_rightclick args isn't an itemstack
11:36 tenplus1 yup
11:37 tenplus1 on_rightclick = func(pos, node, clicker, itemstack, pointed_thing),
11:37 Krock err, 4th argument in this case
11:38 Krock and is "user" a valid player object?
11:38 tenplus1 for the actual mesecon switch itself itemstack and pointed thing arent used at all, and it works ok
11:38 tenplus1 user is indeed a valid player, uyes... the one shooting the arrow
11:39 tenplus1 when the arror hits and the on_rightclick is run, the switch turns on and off ok, just no wires or lights beside it light up
11:41 Krock *tests*
11:41 tenplus1 heh, definitely a strange issue that shouldnt be
11:43 Krock how do I shoot with David BOWie?
11:44 tenplus1 place mese arrows on left side of bow
11:44 tenplus1 use bow to load and fire
11:44 tenplus1 if you hti glass with diamond arrow it shatters and drops bits
11:44 Krock oh. left side, not right sidfe.
11:44 Krock -f
11:46 Krock interesting. it does not update for me either
11:47 tenplus1 the on_rightclick is definitely being called, with the same information given as if the player right clicked the block itself, and udpated node, but not mesecon signal ?!?!/!
11:47 tenplus1 I cant explain this
11:49 tenplus1 thanks for testing it out :)
11:56 Krock ahaahh
11:56 tenplus1 ?
11:56 Krock it works if you do it right
11:56 Krock https://pastebin.com/raw/CF7ZfXPR
11:56 Krock apparently the mesecons register function also has additional triggers registered which need these params
11:57 Krock nvm, I'm supid
11:57 Krock clicking the wrong mouse button
11:57 tenplus1 even though the original switch never passes itemstack or pointed_thing and that works fine ?D
11:58 tenplus1 heh, still same :P
11:58 tenplus1 almost
11:58 Krock getting to it
11:58 Krock works with vector.round(pos)
11:58 tenplus1 ?
11:59 Krock because the "pos" you specify in the on_his_node callback is not a whole number
11:59 Krock *on_hit_node
11:59 Krock thus, mesecons fails to calculate the circuit
11:59 Krock MYTH BUSTED
11:59 tenplus1 what the ???? a round value...
11:59 tenplus1 ahahaha, thanks Krock :PPP
11:59 Krock !next
11:59 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
12:00 Krock yes, the pos looks like this: https://pastebin.com/raw/7XDHDd3A
12:01 IcyDiamond how do i make a game and include someone else's mod in it?
12:01 IcyDiamond git submodules?
12:01 Krock yes
12:01 Krock updating is much easier with submodules
12:02 IcyDiamond rubenwardy: does contentdb init submodules as well?
12:05 rubenwardy It's on the issue tracker
12:05 tenplus1 Bows updated on git and CDB
12:06 rubenwardy https://github.com/minetest/contentdb/issues/94
12:06 rubenwardy Yay
12:06 tenplus1 ruben, if I untick (is approved) will it delete an older release?
12:06 rubenwardy You should never need to
12:06 rubenwardy And it won't
12:06 rubenwardy It'll just unapprove it
12:06 tenplus1 I have 2 releases and I wanna remove the older one
12:06 rubenwardy Why?
12:07 tenplus1 so no-one downloads it
12:07 tenplus1 also to save space
12:08 rubenwardy I'll delete it
12:08 rubenwardy How's?
12:08 rubenwardy It won't save space currently though
12:08 tenplus1 no worries then
12:38 IcyDiamond \o/
12:48 tenplus1 hi icy
12:55 IcyDiamond Hey
12:55 IcyDiamond I want a mobs_birds
12:55 IcyDiamond XD
12:56 IcyDiamond I have some ideas for a game but I can't collect em together
12:56 tenplus1 mobs_flying_creatures is a thing :)
12:57 tenplus1 rubenwardy:  does CDB screenshots need to be a set size/aspect ?
12:58 Krock IcyDiamond: add my stapled bread to trees mod
12:58 IcyDiamond Lol
12:58 IcyDiamond I think I might make a structure spawning mod
12:59 rubenwardy They'll be automagically scaled and cropped
12:59 IcyDiamond Probably exclusively for my game
12:59 tenplus1 hrm, cause it's messing up some of the screenshot.png files
12:59 IcyDiamond Might even give a shot at villages
12:59 Krock 300x200 px usually
13:00 rubenwardy 355x233
13:00 IcyDiamond I need to collect ideas
13:00 rubenwardy But it should be bigger
13:00 Krock that's at least what the lua_api.txt documents. surely, a 600x400px image would show much more :D
13:00 rubenwardy Bigger the better
13:00 rubenwardy I'd go with 600x400 or abovr
13:00 tenplus1 https://content.minetest.net/packages/TenPlus1/real_torch/
13:00 tenplus1 seems to have cropped it a tad short
13:01 Krock IcyDiamond: bows, slippery nodes, movement effects, dehydrate bar..
13:01 IcyDiamond Yeah
13:01 rubenwardy If it's not 3:2 it'll be cropped to 3:2
13:01 IcyDiamond tenplus1: including that as well
13:01 IcyDiamond XD
13:01 tenplus1 oh
13:02 rubenwardy It's a good idea to submit a 3:2 image, 600x400 at least
13:03 tenplus1 gotcha
13:03 tenplus1 thanks
13:04 * Krock wonders what happens with slippery=-1
13:05 Krock nothing :(
13:05 tenplus1 still gotta fix the disable_jump=1 for water nodes so players cant swim up
13:06 Krock ahahah.  slippery=99 is so smooth
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13:08 tenplus1 hi twoelk
13:08 twoelk o/
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13:56 tenplus1 hi fussel
14:11 tenplus1 screenshots added to CDB: https://content.minetest.net/users/TenPlus1/
14:15 rubenwardy Nice!
14:15 tenplus1 :P
14:15 rubenwardy That's what I like to see
14:16 rubenwardy Every package could have an image
14:16 rubenwardy Just some need you to be a bit creative
14:16 tenplus1 got latest GIMP update so thought I'd fiddle :D
14:18 rubenwardy The new GIMP is 👌
14:18 tenplus1 ?? i cvant see that
14:19 rubenwardy Copy it and Google it
14:19 tenplus1 ohhh
14:19 tenplus1 :P
14:20 Fixer 👌 👌 👌
14:20 Fixer row of cocks
14:20 * rubenwardy kicks Fixer
14:21 tenplus1 lol
14:30 longerstaff13 :P
14:31 tenplus1 o/ longer
14:31 longerstaff13 o/
14:33 IhrFussel Hi there^^ Should I open an issue regarding the disappearing of objects you are attached to when logging out?
14:34 tenplus1 erk
14:34 IhrFussel In the case of cars the car appears either when 1. Driver logs off 2. Passenger logs off or 3. Someone next to the car log off
14:35 Fixer IhrFussel: yes
14:35 IhrFussel disappears*
14:36 IhrFussel I didn't test scenario 3 with carts yet
14:37 IhrFussel Also when it disappears you keep the sit animation so the "detach" code never runs
14:50 IhrFussel I might be custom code that causes this behavior...one sec testing
14:54 * tenplus1 is having way too much fun breaking glass windows with diamond arrows :D
15:04 IcyDiamond lol
15:05 tenplus1 just remembered to add a protection check... dont want rogue players running around server with diamond arrows and breaking windows
15:05 IcyDiamond XD
15:06 IcyDiamond add a settingtype
15:06 tenplus1 nah, protection check by default for this one
15:06 tenplus1 considered griefing
15:06 IcyDiamond why does nobody ever add setting types in this community
15:06 tenplus1 and mese arrows can turn on/off a mesecon switch :D
15:06 IcyDiamond whats so scary about setting types
15:07 tenplus1 I dont like adding settings for thigns that arent important
15:07 IcyDiamond xD
15:08 IcyDiamond I really want to make a village mod
15:08 tenplus1 new arrow on_step is a lot smoother, doesnt use get_node's at all until the arrow stops moving
15:08 tenplus1 check out settlements mod and add new schems :D always need new buildings
15:09 IcyDiamond !mod settlements
15:09 MinetestBot IcyDiamond: Settlements [settlements] by Rochambeau - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=20425
15:09 IcyDiamond License
15:09 IcyDiamond WTFPL
15:09 IcyDiamond time to steal code
15:09 tenplus1 hahaha
15:09 IcyDiamond ok no
15:11 IcyDiamond now that i think about it, npc build queues should be considered an example instead of a mod
15:11 tenplus1 still like the idea of giving work orders for differnet vbuildings and having them build it
15:11 tenplus1 then you can get free buildings from treasure chests or even lucky blocks :P
15:14 IcyDiamond can i use the default player model for npcs or do i have to like copy the one from mobs_npcs
15:14 IcyDiamond xD
15:14 tenplus1 if you want it to work with 0.5.0 then use the npc model
15:14 IcyDiamond ok
15:14 IcyDiamond do i need to credit you?
15:14 rubenwardy Yes
15:14 tenplus1 nuuuuu
15:14 tenplus1 the mob npc model IS the 0.4.16 player model
15:14 rubenwardy You can use it, but either target 0.4 or 5
15:14 IcyDiamond ok
15:15 IcyDiamond i guess ill target 5 then
15:15 IcyDiamond no biggie
15:15 IcyDiamond xD
15:16 tenplus1 the NPC builder that minecraft uses stands off to the corner of the build and punches the air a lot until it's done
15:16 tenplus1 npc builder for minetest has already beaten that by walking aroud the build and doing it that way
15:16 IcyDiamond lol
15:17 IcyDiamond wait where is the default player model
15:17 IcyDiamond or whats it called
15:17 tenplus1 character.b3d
15:18 twoelk hm, a wizard waving a wand might also look nice :-D
15:18 tenplus1 lol twoelk, would be fun :D
15:18 twoelk we realy do need hats in minetest
15:19 Krock we really need fox tails in minetest
15:19 IhrFussel Okay it's not an engine bug...it was a mod that removes all objects near the player when they leave ... I added an entity name check to that callback now and everything works fine again
15:19 tenplus1 +10000...  was thinking that a week ago, could make hat models that attach to player using 3d_armor and different textures for different hats
15:19 tenplus1 kewl fussel
15:21 * twoelk had once extended th 3d_armor model to include fancy old helmets with. plumes, tails and viking horns or wings
15:23 twoelk didn't look convincing and has since been lost
15:23 IcyDiamond hmm, where do i get textures for npcs
15:23 IcyDiamond will minecraft skins work?
15:23 IcyDiamond xD
15:23 tenplus1 a helmet object with a plantlike + on top could be used with multiple textures to handle hats and addons on top
15:25 tenplus1 that way you could have a helmet and depending on texture add things like ears or mohawk etc
15:27 BillyS o/ tenplus1
15:27 tenplus1 hi billy
15:30 twoelk the goblin mobs have interesting heads
15:31 tenplus1 yeahhhh, that's exactly what I mean... depending on the texture used you can have crowns and different hair etc :)
15:31 tenplus1 great for a hats mod
15:31 tenplus1 or at least the default model
15:33 twoelk lol, an animated gesture taking of the hat when entering buildings of worship might be fun
15:34 tenplus1 hahahaha
15:34 tenplus1 and the fedora has a sound "m'lady"
15:38 tenplus1 animated hats would be funny tho
15:39 BillyS !server Blocky Survival
15:39 MinetestBot BillyS: Blocky Survival | mt.packets4hire.com:30005 | Clients: 16/50, 6/23 | Version: 0.4.17 / minetest_game_modified | Ping: 91ms
15:39 BillyS Oh yay
15:42 tenplus1 !server xanadu
15:42 MinetestBot tenplus1: Xanadu | 98.166.127.241 | Clients: 3/40, 3/14 | Version: 0.4.16 / minetest | Ping: 109ms
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15:45 tenplus1 hi mister
15:45 Mr_Pardison hello
15:48 BillyS yayperdizon
15:48 BillyS *pardizon
15:56 tenplus1 Mr_Pordizord...
15:56 tenplus1 :P
15:57 tenplus1 what's new with you dude ?
15:58 Mr_Pardison well, looking online for college syllabi and any required textbooks for my classes.
15:59 tenplus1 ekk... textbook prices
16:07 twoelk textbooks? like those to scribble sidenotes into? not gone fully digital yet?
16:08 tenplus1 prolly...  I hate that college textbooks are so ridiculously priced...
16:09 A-Hamilton worst thing is that I can't find either a syllabus for that specific professor and class combo or any textbooks that would be needed for them.
16:09 tenplus1 what's the class ?
16:09 twoelk what's the subject? ( not that I would have any booklist )
16:10 * twoelk types toooooo sloooow
16:10 A-Hamilton I can't find anything for any of them that I am taking.
16:11 twoelk ah, so finding the correct resources is the first task to master
16:11 A-Hamilton yup.
16:11 twoelk wicked
16:12 twoelk no older fellows selling info?  :-D
16:14 tenplus1 you'd think the class itself would provide reading materials to pass the course
16:14 rubenwardy Yeah, it'll cost £200 and be written by the professor
16:15 tenplus1 they prolly do just that, recommend their own books so they get a sale
16:16 twoelk sigh - researching for obscure information and the casual access to the most fascinating semipublic libraries is something I really miss from university
16:17 tenplus1 heh
16:18 twoelk we often had older students selling, er cough, handing out for a little copy fee transcripts of previous years
16:18 tenplus1 glad to hear :) gotta recoup some of the costs and getrid of the books you only use once :D
16:19 twoelk just informative enough to get an idea but not enough to be able to skip the course alltogether and learn at home
16:20 * twoelk is terrified by the idea of selling his books - however useless they may be for him
16:23 * Shara can't imagine studying anywhere other than home...
16:24 tenplus1 hi shara
16:25 tenplus1 agree'd... I like studying at home better :D with internet access
16:25 Shara Well, it's what I do.
16:25 twoelk I sometimes did research jobs on old buildings in libraries and archives. I loved doing that and was sometimes paid quite ridiculous amounts of money - but in the end ends never met financially
16:25 Shara And in general I've found it so much better than needing to attend classes like I did the first time I studied
16:26 Shara But then I also often work from home as well
16:26 twoelk but then you miss the talking to peers
16:26 twoelk or to the prof
16:28 Shara I did one degree actually attending somewhere... to be honest, it's something I'm happy to miss
16:28 twoelk on the other end I like burrowing into old archives - where you often don't meet anyone for days :-D
16:28 rubenwardy > Implying people talk to people, anyway
16:28 Shara I know, just crazy
16:29 Shara I also wouldn't be able to study like that again because my job comes first
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16:29 twoelk sigh - the need to earn money indeed
16:30 tenplus1 hi Darcidride
16:30 rubenwardy Sigh
16:30 twoelk I wish there were more jobs where you got paid for learning
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16:31 tenplus1 wb Gael-de-Sailly
16:31 tenplus1 any course that would better your current job should be paid for by your workplace
16:31 Shara twoelk: technically mine is one
16:32 twoelk well where I work now started like that for me
16:32 Shara I had to agree to raise my qualifications just to get the job
16:33 Shara But yea, in general it would be good if more employers encouraged learning
16:33 twoelk they wanted to merge databases and let me experiment for a year - was wonderfull - learnt a lot and did the impossible
16:34 twoelk funfact, I never studied any computer science related stuff (officially)
16:35 Shara I hadn't, then one day I realised I kind of wanted to, and it suddenly made enough sense with everything else I was doing.
16:35 Shara So started studying and also looked for excuses to try and write code of any kind at all (hello MT modding :D)
16:36 tenplus1 mt modding can be fun, brought me back into programming from an old basic/pascal/cobol background :D
16:38 twoelk basically I'm a somewhat upgraded draughtsman with basic civil engineering skills and too much interest in old buildings
16:38 tenplus1 that's a good thing in it's own way due, modern vs old architecture
16:39 tenplus1 style and function etc :)
16:41 twoelk and I've always been some sort of middleman between the hands on construction world and the digital world
16:41 tenplus1 Richard Jeffried has minetest videos that kinda lean into architecture with his builds :)
16:41 tenplus1 quite fascinating
16:42 * benrob0329 wonders when the next building competition will be on Xanadu
16:43 twoelk my first real program was in basic for a programmable calculater to calculate the dewpoint in walls considering different materials
16:43 tenplus1 hi benrob :)
16:43 benrob0329 and whether or not it's "bring your own blocks"
16:43 tenplus1 many new buildings are cropping up on the Xanadu thread on forum :P they are really nice
16:44 tenplus1 handy tool twoelk :) my first was an animation program on my c16 Plus4
16:44 A-Hamilton tenplus1: is my stuff still good and not for sale?
16:45 tenplus1 lol, you were on last in may, so 6 months after that is wrecking crew party :D
16:45 tenplus1 of coruse any good builds are kept :D
16:45 * benrob0329 is finding ffmpeg to be an invaluable tool for production
16:45 A-Hamilton so then I'm still good for another couple of months but I'll try and hop on if I can.
16:47 twoelk last time I visited my little meadow near spawn I just couldn't start hacking down the trees for another building, it looks so pretty, so I extended my caverns somewhat
16:47 twoelk on xanadu that is
16:48 tenplus1 Xanadu now has an area called Second Spawn that is like the older server... 4 huge roads where players can build alongside them :P
16:51 * twoelk looks around - all alone in the office? - lets do some minetesting pssssssss
16:53 A-Hamilton heh
16:53 tenplus1 lolol
16:58 Shara tenplus1: Stopppp.. now I'll have to show up to look at it
16:58 tenplus1 lolol
16:59 tenplus1 if it helps, each of the big roads at Second Spawn ends in a special build with charity chests :D
17:02 Shara I don't care about chests, just about nice buildings :P
17:03 tenplus1 oh many of those :D
17:03 * Shara gives up and signs in
17:03 tenplus1 afflatus, waffle and many others are building nice things :
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17:23 tenplus1 hi gary
17:24 garywhite hi 11
17:31 twoelk gtg, might join again later tonight
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18:11 tenplus1 Shara: -50 should be a good level to enable the darkness  ?
18:13 Shara I would think so
18:13 tenplus1 :P
18:32 tenplus1 thanks Shara, works like a charm :D
18:33 Shara You have it running? :D
18:33 tenplus1 only on standalone for testing :D will go live tonight with new Bow changes :)
18:34 Shara Awesome :D
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18:42 tenplus1 o/ andro
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19:01 tenplus1 wb
19:01 Krock ty
19:02 Krock computer froze again entirely. no idea why. It might need some compressed air soon
19:02 tenplus1 dust buildup ?
19:02 Krock not really, no. That's why I find it a bit strange
19:02 tenplus1 what os ?
19:03 Krock still ubuntu 18.04. Since this now happened after ~10 hours of uptime, I doubt that it's a kernel issue or anything related to software
19:03 tenplus1 power surge
19:08 benrob0329 Krock: Ubuntu or a spin?
19:09 Krock a spin towards X
19:11 tenplus1 what's the spin called ?
19:11 benrob0329 X + ubuntu
19:12 benrob0329 I'd assume Xubuntu
19:12 Krock I thought that would be self-explanatory.. yes.
19:12 tenplus1 lol, Xubuntu is ok, use that one myself :) nice n stable
19:13 * benrob0329 uses Fedora, machine still running fine >15 hours after boot
19:16 tenplus1 Xanadu runs Xubuntu and has been online for many weeks now which is nice :P
19:17 benrob0329 Xubuntu? Its a server though
19:17 benrob0329 why not Ubuntu Server/Debian?
19:17 Krock I'd rather go for Debian when running a server, but I guess Ubuntu is okay too
19:17 tenplus1 cause Shinji isnt tech savvy and Xubuntu works really well and gives him a full desktop to use inbetween server work
19:18 benrob0329 I see
19:22 * longerstaff13 peers out from the attic
19:23 tenplus1 wblonger
19:32 aerozoic wtf?  my server just crashed from this:  "2018-07-30 19:27:25: ERROR[ConnectionSend]: src/network/connection.cpp:60d: bool con::ConnectionSendThread::rawSendAsPacket(u16, u8, SharedBuffer<u8>, bool): A fatal error occured: Trying to send raw packet reliable but no peer found!"
19:33 tenplus1 o.O if a server cannot find a client it shouldnt crash... damn!
19:34 sofar yeah, bug in engine
19:34 aerozoic There were also many attempts to join by an invalid playername just prior
19:34 sofar which version?
19:34 aerozoic 4.16
19:35 Fixer Krock: check PSU voltages, check badblocks on your hard-drive, check videocard
19:36 Krock there's no version 4.16
19:37 tenplus1 lol
19:37 Krock Fixer: I'll go for the option of compressed air and check whether it still happens afterwards
19:38 Krock it's not a HDD issue - the computer does not simply freeze entirely (mouse inclusive, and sound) when the HDD is faulty
19:42 Fixer Krock: it did for me long time ago on WinXP
19:42 Fixer Krock: check temps, voltages, then try loading all cores for some time
19:48 Fixer the more I look into mc, the more silly it gets
19:48 Fixer especially farming of everything
19:48 Fixer with some trully overpowered stuff
19:48 tenplus1 how so ?
19:48 Fixer it is like not original beta minecraft... where you just mine, travel on carts, build simple
19:49 tenplus1 they;ve added far too much ?#
19:51 Fixer it is huge farming capabilities
19:51 Fixer you farm gold via... killing a mob
19:51 Fixer on huge scale
19:52 Fixer or silly iron farms
19:52 Fixer on huge scale
19:52 Fixer it is not about mining anymore :D
19:52 tenplus1 that's making it too easy, kinda like the papyrus or wood ore mod we have on mt
19:52 Fixer same for travel, you travel via flying now
19:53 Fixer carts are not needed much
19:55 Fixer join any survival server and you find this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtHzOsqSyDk
19:56 Fixer or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L9IW_wrYo0
19:56 Fixer or huge loot farms
19:56 Fixer or AFK fishing
19:57 A-Hamilton Flitzpiepe has made an auto-fisher using pipeworks.
19:57 tenplus1 I prefer the infinite clicking of an ethereal fishing pole on water :DDD
19:58 Fixer also, if you look at blocks in MC these days... there are shiiiiit-tons of blocks, now you have even different colour buttons...
19:58 tenplus1 overkill and fluff...
19:58 Fixer game is so complex, and gameplay is so silly
19:59 Fixer only thing you mine is diamonds... then you build xp grinder farm, with loot output, afk fish, iron and gold farm, villager farm, autochicken/pumpkin/melonfarm, enderman farm, it is crazy
19:59 tenplus1 I do like mc's hedges though, simple trunk block surrounded by leaves... no need for separate nodes
20:00 Fixer game has became one big gameplay exploit
20:01 Fixer even snow farms...
20:01 Fixer you place just one snow golem, and just mine snow indefinitely
20:01 Fixer voila
20:01 tenplus1 hrm, too eaasy
20:02 Fixer maybe that is why there are so many hardcore farms and contraptions in mc
20:02 Fixer people wanting to exploit the system
20:03 Fixer in minetest you can't exploit anything much -> it is empty :D
20:04 tenplus1 true :P
20:04 tenplus1 and if you do find a glitch to exploit the system it's usually fixed quickly :D
20:04 A-Hamilton you could exploit smartshops until the latest fix.
20:05 Fixer but that is a mod
20:05 A-Hamilton you were able to put an item with a wear rate for the price of itself and 1 of that in stock and get a brand new tool.
20:05 Fixer try to exploit plane mtg...
20:05 Fixer it has no mobs, no water push, no machines, no automation...
20:05 tenplus1 it's all in what you make it to be :D
20:06 Fixer i would still like to see it having mobs, with some basic automatic, switches, plates, loot (not overpowered)
20:07 tenplus1 xdecor has simple plates and switches that handle doors only
20:07 tenplus1 dungeon loot has been added to 0.5
20:07 tenplus1 mobs is a big thing which prolly needs the api converted to c++
20:08 Fixer i know
20:08 tenplus1 pathfinding needs an upgrade so it can whitelist nodes to pass through
20:08 Fixer but mc went further, added shipwrecks with loot, some dungeons, mines, etc
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20:17 tenplus1 lol
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20:19 tenplus1 wb Gael-de-Sailly
20:19 Gael-de-Sailly Hi again
20:20 tenplus1 Xanadu updated with new Bows and undersky
20:34 tenplus1 nite all o/
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21:04 IhrFussel Does it make sense to cleanup /players while the server runs?
21:05 IhrFussel I only want to touch player files that are long untouched
21:33 longerstaff13 I would touch files while the server is offline, don't wanna corrupt anything :P <- IhrFussel
21:34 IhrFussel The worst that can happen is a broken/missing inventory I'd guess
21:35 IhrFussel Still happens in 0.4.17.1 ... segfault caused by Server::SendMovePlayer(unsigned short)
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