Time Nick Message 04:53 paramat !tell IhrFussel stereo sound that fades with distance is therefore located in the world, so it should also be directional. one without the other is very weird and not useful so openAL doesn't do it. "You seem to focus too much on the idea of positional being 3D" lol they're identical. "But that is how reality works!" no, a stereo sound system is also directional, it's 2 directional sound sources 04:53 MinetestBot paramat: I'll pass that on when IhrFussel is around 04:55 sofar what's that bug report about that again that we closed? 04:56 sofar #1823 04:56 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1823 -- Minetest plays stereo sound as mono 04:57 sofar !tell ihrfussel see issue 1823 04:57 MinetestBot sofar: I'll pass that on when ihrfussel is around 12:18 tenplus1 Hi folks 12:18 tenplus1 o/ Krock 12:18 Krock hi tenplus1 12:19 tenplus1 hi paramat 12:19 tenplus1 am getting some backlash after moving to notabug.org 12:19 Krock how so? 12:20 tenplus1 certain mt games have broken links cause they pointed to some of my mods on github, since the move links are borked 12:20 tenplus1 shame all these git clones cant use the same infrastructure and link to each other 12:21 Krock well yes, that are the consequences of moving repos. broken links. 12:21 Krock also submodules that point to the old clone address 12:21 tenplus1 dammit 12:22 Krock >> instant GitHub migration << 12:22 Krock so those who already changed the links to notabug can change them back again 8) 12:23 tenplus1 dunno if I want to move back... 12:24 tenplus1 M$ has already said they wanna make github better *shudder* 12:30 Fixer funnily 420 is playing right now about make a mooooove 12:30 Fixer but i don't want you all to leave github 12:30 tenplus1 hi fixer 12:31 Fixer nobody is going to register on chtulhu-know what random git-platforms 12:31 Fixer hii 12:31 rubenwardy I'll probably keep my public stuff on github whilst github is there 12:31 rubenwardy *minetest is there 12:32 tenplus1 am still on github for minetest to check latest release and post issues and pulls... but will host my stuff elseswhere.... also hi ruben 12:34 rubenwardy *public minetest stuff 12:34 rubenwardy not sure I trust that gitlab won't be bought too 12:34 rubenwardy so might just self-host 12:34 Fixer gitlab is already a private entity 12:34 rubenwardy exactly 12:34 tenplus1 you ever get the feeling Microsoft kinda knew what an upset this would cause when they bought github ? 12:35 Fixer if you are really into stallman-like-FOSS-terrorism, you have to move to something mooore deeeper - self-hosted or savannah or other volunteer-run git platform 12:36 tenplus1 if the minetest community has it's own git site then I'll gladly move there :) 12:38 Calinou GitHub still feels the same 12:38 tenplus1 for now... until they start *improving* it... hi Cal 12:47 tenplus1 hi aerozoic 12:50 paramat i'll move to whereever MT moves to if or when it does 12:51 Shara What paramat said, really. 12:51 aerozoic hi tenplus1 12:51 Shara At the moment, I'm just really annoyed that I now have to dance between four different sites to keep track of mods I use 12:51 tenplus1 hi shara 12:52 Shara To the point where I'm highly likely to just fork everything 12:52 Shara Hi 11 12:52 Shara Also have started the possibly impossible task of trying to get my servers back to using MTG... and I'm already close to giving up on it 12:53 Shara Starting to think I'll just forget having a life beyond MT mods and maintain every single mod I use myself :D 12:53 tenplus1 wait, your servers arent already using mtg ? 12:53 Shara Haven't been since ages ago really 12:53 tenplus1 ohh, you made your own game setup 12:53 Shara I run a very customised version of it instead ever since it did a bunch of things that annoyed me 12:54 rubenwardy #KillKeys 12:54 Shara I was hoping I could move back to it for easier maintenance but... seems not 12:54 tenplus1 what were the annoying things ? 12:54 Shara Everything from keys to coral to texture switches, to now needing to use sfinv just to run a totally different inventory mod and so on 12:55 tenplus1 ahh 12:55 Shara Also I don't even know what's up with rails 12:58 Shara On RC, all types of rail conenct... switching to carts in MTG, they don't connect to other ones anymore 12:58 Shara Also I'm left with a textureless default:rails node for some reason 12:58 tenplus1 weird 12:59 Shara yea 12:59 paramat lots of core dev support for moving keys out of default if anyone wants to code that, i would if i knew how 12:59 rubenwardy problem is backwards compatibility, paramat 12:59 rubenwardy depends on how many mods have added support for keys really 12:59 Shara Just make it an option... 12:59 rubenwardy tbf, we should treat dependencies on default as broken anyway ;) 12:59 tenplus1 wasnt doors changes so that can_open function was used 12:59 rubenwardy ^ 13:00 rubenwardy that's how I would have done it 13:00 rubenwardy an external mod overriding can_open 13:00 paramat corals do need reworking, to use plantlike_rooted and those suggested textures. they're not good currently 13:01 paramat maybe i'll get inspired to sort out corals sometime :) 13:01 tenplus1 doesnt that mean they will be linked to sand blocks ? 13:01 Shara paramat: I have corals on my list 13:01 Shara SO please leave those to me for now 13:01 Shara I did logs last night, butterflies and corals are still to come 13:02 paramat ok cool :) 13:02 * paramat is relieved 13:02 tenplus1 did you cahnge the logs to num_spawn_by = 4 ? 13:02 Shara Problem is, I think I didn't really agree with you on how you wanted the corals so... I want to spend a bit of time thinking it through and experimenting. 13:02 Shara tenplus1: 8 13:02 tenplus1 oops, 8 sorry 13:02 tenplus1 I liked that feature, seen it earlier :) makes 'em appear on solid ground 13:03 Shara It's how to stop the overhang ever being more than 1 node 13:03 tenplus1 +100 13:03 paramat my approach would be having the base cube be coral skeleton 13:03 tenplus1 still means if you wanna place coral above land as decoration the cube is stuck on it 13:04 Shara paramat: yea, that's where I'm having an issue. The two sets of coral textures really don't match up well, and I think it could look too busy/weird even if they did 13:04 Shara tenplus1: seperate nodes 13:04 Shara but yea, it gets messy to do well 13:04 tenplus1 true, but registering double nodes 13:04 Shara I love the rooted drawtype and it has huge potential, but needs some fussing around to make it really good 13:05 tenplus1 if only a feature was available to have nodes retain water on top 13:05 tenplus1 flooded view 13:05 Shara Check HW marsh grass for an idea 13:05 paramat yeah we could have a new texture for the coral 'reef' if the white one is not suitable for the base cube 13:05 Shara I still haven't coded it so it works correctly, but the distinct node types are already there 13:06 Shara But I'd basically look at having a check when placing the node to see if it's being palced in water or not (unless it becomes dead coral again when picked anyway, in which case it doesn't really matter) 13:07 paramat ah just seen the logs PR .. 13:13 tenplus1 the awards mod is pretty good 13:18 rubenwardy horray :D 13:18 rubenwardy I'll be adding group support to it tonight 13:18 tenplus1 although there's a call to awards.notifydig that doesnt seem to exist ??! 13:18 Shara :D 13:18 rubenwardy urg 13:18 rubenwardy *urrr 13:18 tenplus1 lol 13:19 rubenwardy ah 13:19 rubenwardy it's defined in register_trigger 13:19 rubenwardy there will be a line like awards["notify" .. type] = func 13:19 rubenwardy it's deprecated though 13:19 tenplus1 ahh 13:19 tenplus1 just wondering :p 13:19 rubenwardy the correct form is awards.dig.notify or awards.triggers.dig.notify 13:19 rubenwardy I forget 13:20 rubenwardy I'm also going to change `node` to `item` on dig/place triggers, to make it consistent with use/craft triggers 13:20 rubenwardy as I got caught out by that 13:21 tenplus1 wb 13:21 Krock ty 13:23 Krock [...] or other volunteer-run git platform | isn't that what notabug offers? 13:23 Fixer probably 13:29 * rubenwardy now has a wireless charger 13:29 * tenplus1 now has wireless toilet 13:29 tenplus1 fun with portals! 13:30 lisac_ And the neighbors' entire family! 13:30 tenplus1 hi lisac :PP 13:30 lisac_ hey tenplus1 13:30 Krock rubenwardy, congrats to <70% charging efficiency 13:30 lisac Krock: its the future, efficiency doesn't matter 13:31 lisac only how cool it looks 13:31 Krock alright I see 13:31 lisac did you see that new wireless mouse that is powered from the mousepad? 13:31 tenplus1 yeah, not bad 13:31 lisac some day people will find out that we can attach cables directly to the mouse 13:32 rubenwardy apparently 75-80% actually 13:32 lisac and there will be no need to charge them! 13:32 tenplus1 :p 13:32 rubenwardy plus my microusb input is getting a bit funky 13:32 rubenwardy so it extends the life of my phone by not needing to plug it in every day 13:32 Krock 2018: wireless mouse powered by mousepad. Never recharge the mouse again 13:32 Krock 2054: wireless mousepad powered by mouse. Never recharge the mousepad again 13:35 Krock lisac, inb4 that's the mouse I'm currently using 13:35 Krock (with cable 8) ) 13:35 lisac :P 13:35 lisac I once tried a wireless mouse 13:35 lisac too much effort to keep it charged 13:35 lisac not to mention batteries last like a week 13:36 tenplus1 wired all the way 13:37 lisac lol there are some protests here right now 13:37 lisac people are blocking roads with cars 13:37 lisac half of the population is supporting them 13:37 lisac other half beating the other half to death 13:37 tenplus1 erk 13:37 lisac and of course the 'Baby dies due to the road blockade' headlines 13:38 Krock 5 minutes later, opponent magazine: 'road blockade damaged by exploded isis baby' 13:38 Krock s/oded/oding/ 13:38 lisac and president says he considers the protests a terrorist act against the government 13:40 Krock they always are 13:40 lisac oh and the reason the protests started is because government doubled the price of fuel 13:40 lisac by increasing tax by 54% 13:41 Krock at least the nature will be happy 13:41 tenplus1 how much is it per litre now ??? 13:41 lisac ~2$ 13:41 lisac it used to be about 160RSD before 13:41 tenplus1 ouch... it's 1.30 GBP here per litre in places 13:42 lisac yeah, and on top of that most of the price goes to the government 13:42 tenplus1 *sigh* doors and key has me jumping all around minetest_game git to see what it all does 13:42 lisac people are apparently starting to get fuel from less known places now 13:42 Shara paramat: I find including the mushrooms in the schems just weird, but sure 13:43 rubenwardy heh, tax fuel subsidise electric cars 13:43 rubenwardy #LegaliseMarijauna 13:43 tenplus1 +100 13:44 lisac rubenwardy: electric cars are illegal in Serbia 13:44 lisac as well as drones 13:44 lisac not exactly illegal, but you can't drive them on roads 13:44 rubenwardy legalise marigauna and use the tax for health care 13:44 rubenwardy put that on a bus, and keep the promise 13:44 rubenwardy also, this is above 50 lines :O 13:44 tenplus1 it was stated that the UK would gain 30 BILLION per year on taxes alone if cannabis was legal 13:44 rubenwardy yeah 13:45 lisac rubenwardy: channel would be dead if not for constant offtopic 13:45 * tenplus1 gives up on doors mod, am sticking to doors redo, it's easier 13:45 rubenwardy I don't do weed and find it disgusting, however I think it's better to have education and use tax money on health care than to keep it illegal 13:45 rubenwardy plus, > alcohol 13:45 Krock legalise margarine and use tax for health care <- me, reading the chat 13:45 tenplus1 yup, that sounds fair 13:47 rubenwardy buy everyone in the UK called "Andrew Ward" a tesla 13:47 rubenwardy new law 13:47 tenplus1 lol 13:47 Krock a tesla coil? easy. 13:51 paramat Shara it's because the decoration API gets surface y from the mapgen heightmap, so can't place mushrooms on logs which are above the heightmap surface. those log mushrooms are a much loved feature :) 13:51 Fixer do not subsidize fuel 13:51 Fixer it is evil 13:51 Fixer it is like a doze for a narc 13:52 Fixer you will ruin your economy 13:53 Fixer 1,54 usd per dollar? 13:54 rubenwardy definitely don't 13:55 rubenwardy electric and electric cars though 13:55 rubenwardy may be better to somehow encourage research 13:55 rubenwardy we need affordable efficient cars yesterday 13:55 rubenwardy and also more renewable energy 13:55 Krock self-driving solar panels 13:56 Krock and at this point I see no connection with Minetest 13:56 rubenwardy would quite like to make an unloaded chunk supporting transport netowkr 13:56 rubenwardy like, subways 13:56 Krock however, cars built with technic's batteries would be somewhat nice 13:56 rubenwardy so it works and the trains appear in the right place 13:56 tenplus1 howabout this: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b7/c8/68/b7c868d93f10aa86bef2521979e17c9c.jpg 13:56 Fixer i feel like we will end up badly if no cheap and env friendly batteries are made 13:56 rubenwardy would need a way of making a network graph 13:57 Fixer i can imagine road be electrified, so electrotrucks will move the cargo, same for busses 13:57 rubenwardy sounds inefficient 13:57 Krock tenplus1, needs motion blur to look more attractive 13:58 tenplus1 lol 13:58 tenplus1 ya know, the water engine does actually work and can provide a car enough electricity to run without the need for a battery on board 13:58 Fixer our future https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/JapaneseRickshaw.jpg 13:58 Krock and maybe these shiny red eyes which are a must-have for new, amazing stuff 13:59 tenplus1 fixer, we already have those in the city, but the guys pulling them take the piss from tourists and charge absurd amounts 13:59 Fixer we are already at peak oil pretty much 13:59 Fixer think about how you will live with ever rising fuel prices 13:59 Fixer including plastics prices 14:00 paramat -> chat channel (despite me being an electric car enthusiast) 14:00 tenplus1 paramat: go for a water fueled car then... 14:00 Fixer also, to make a battery you still need energy 14:01 Fixer electric not enough, probably coal+gas+nuclear for future 14:02 Fixer you need shit-tons of those 14:02 Fixer also, without cheap fuel moving any cargo will cost a lot of money 14:03 Fixer that means declining standard of living 14:03 Fixer and maybe opportunity for local producers 14:07 longerstaff13 Meow 14:07 tenplus1 hi longer 14:07 longerstaff13 Good afternoon 11 14:07 longerstaff13 Hehe, as a birthday gift from my paremts I had my ear pierced :D 14:07 longerstaff13 Parents* 14:08 ANAND Hello everyone! 14:08 Fixer interesting 14:08 * tenplus1 puts a lock in longerstaff13's ear 14:08 tenplus1 hi ANAND 14:08 longerstaff13 Lol 14:08 ANAND :P 14:08 longerstaff13 Hi anand 14:08 rubenwardy Fixer: in parts of last year the UK ran on mostly renewable energy 14:09 ANAND Happy birthday longerstaff13! :) 14:09 rubenwardy and it's getting cheaper, I heard it's cheaper than non-renewable 14:09 Fixer rubenwardy: mostly aka 50%? 14:09 longerstaff13 Thanks :P 14:09 rubenwardy that being said, it still has an impact when making the things 14:09 ANAND .. who's not 13 :P 14:09 longerstaff13 I'm 16 14:09 Krock longerstaff16 14:09 ANAND yea 14:09 longerstaff13 Hehe 14:10 tenplus1 from 15% renewable energy in 1995 up to 30% in 2017.. and it's getting better :) 14:10 rubenwardy ok, I can't find a citation for the first sentence. This says 30% most of the time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_the_United_Kingdom 14:10 rubenwardy lol snap 14:10 tenplus1 eheheh 14:10 Fixer 30% is not enough 14:10 rubenwardy no 14:10 * rubenwardy hopes there will be a breakthrough in fusion 14:11 Fixer rubenwardy: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/Bp_world_energy_consumption_2016.gif 14:11 rubenwardy I suspect for it to be stable you need a large mass, however 14:11 rubenwardy which isn't really possible on earth 14:12 rubenwardy swear nuclear > gas or coal 14:12 tenplus1 am surprised that placed like Austraslia dont have huge areas of solar panels and tesla banks for creating power to save on fossil fuels ... it's not like they dont have enough spare land 14:12 Fixer you need to store energy somehow 14:13 tenplus1 tesla banks... huge battery buildings to do just that 14:13 Fixer https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/World_primary_energy_consumption_in_quadrillion_Btu_by_region.svg 14:13 Fixer energy demand is mostly driven by China it seems 14:13 tenplus1 Fixer: https://electrek.co/2018/01/23/tesla-giant-battery-australia-1-million/ 14:13 Fixer and China is overheated AF 14:13 tenplus1 the pollution in china is so sad... 14:14 rubenwardy really we could use less people and less consumption 14:14 Fixer tell that to china/india/africa 14:14 tenplus1 they dropped the 1-child-per-family ruling, that's not good 14:15 Krock tenplus1, long term issues will carry on. they're already used to this system so don't worry 14:16 Fixer urbanisation + education will fix rapid population increase problem 14:16 Fixer tenplus1: china population age is increasing for now 14:16 * tenplus1 shares da perfect cake - http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/604025/85680831.jpg 14:17 Fixer china will not grow much anymore 14:17 paramat -> chat (will kick) 14:18 Krock 14:18 rubenwardy so, distributed travel/electronics network in MT 14:18 rubenwardy how do 14:18 rubenwardy err 14:19 Krock sounds like a travelnet & technic coop 14:19 rubenwardy s/distributed/unloaded chunk supporting async/g 14:19 Krock ah, the railway idea 14:19 rubenwardy basically want a way of creating and maintaining a graph of a network 14:19 rubenwardy whether that's rails or wires 14:20 rubenwardy and then being able to sync it asynchronously, maybe be syncing with a worker as another process 14:20 tenplus1 if we had a minetest.find_connected(pos, radius, nodes) command we could trace electronics from one source to another and only ahve it working from 1 block to a 2nd... without all the checking inbetween 14:20 tenplus1 updating it when a cable/machine is disconnected 14:20 rubenwardy and you also need to be able to query the state of certain areas when you load map blocks 14:20 rubenwardy so you can show any trains or charge state in that area 14:21 rubenwardy bit I'm stuck on is what happens if you merge two segments 14:21 rubenwardy because they'd have different IDs 14:22 rubenwardy s/segment/arc or line/g 14:24 rubenwardy I guess you could make a identity node 14:24 rubenwardy and have some way of optimising lines if they're redundant and the blocks are loaded 14:26 tenplus1 if find_path could be expanded to follow specific node groups you could check for joins between tracks/blocks/positions 14:26 rubenwardy the issue is unloaded blocks, and having to update meta maybe 14:27 rubenwardy unless you don't even store node IDs in meta 14:27 rubenwardy and instead just have a fully accurate graph which captures bends 14:27 tenplus1 isnt that how mc works for redstone ? it checks connections between machiens/parts and works only on pos1 and pos2 14:27 rubenwardy but to query a location to find the line it would be O(n) 14:27 rubenwardy redstone only works in loaded areas 14:28 tenplus1 only updating on node/part removal/placement 14:29 tenplus1 forcing map loads for machines to work would quickly lag everything, also loading it all into a table would use a lot of memory eventually 14:31 rubenwardy I don't care about memory :) 14:31 rubenwardy memory is cheap 14:31 rubenwardy the whole point of this is to use memory to speed it up 14:32 rubenwardy you could also chunkify the graph, ie: LOD 14:32 tenplus1 at some point you'd need to write it out to node/file and a server crash would mess up a lot of working machines/items being moved around etc 14:36 tenplus1 I suppose that's why mc limited redstone to 15 block radius 14:40 BillyS o/ tenplus1 14:40 tenplus1 hil billy 14:40 aerozoic hey tenplus1, since MTG moved the straw stairs register into it's farming mod, would you consider it for your farming redo? 14:40 tenplus1 o.O hi billy, sorry typo 14:40 aerozoic https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/e4d642584670044b3f6b52ee78d9959ef4735ac1 14:40 BillyS xD 14:40 tenplus1 I did try before aerozoic but ended up with dependency issues with 0.4.16 14:41 BillyS tenplus1, I got the nether mod working. Feel free to hop on my server if you want and I'll show ya. :D 14:41 tenplus1 kewl, which server / 14:41 aerozoic hmm 14:41 BillyS Blocky Survival 14:41 tenplus1 aerozoic: lemmie try again and I'l see 14:43 aerozoic ok :) 14:56 tenplus1 hi CWz 14:57 tenplus1 aerozoic: seems to work this time... will make changes 14:57 aerozoic yay! 14:58 ANAND psst, aerozoic! don't say 'yay' ._. 14:58 aerozoic lol, y not? 14:59 CWz Hello! 14:59 ANAND that (forbidden) word has faced a lot of flak recently, and it's use is frowned upon ;) 14:59 ANAND Hello CWz! 14:59 Amaz aerozoic: http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-hub/2018-06-11#i_5329363 14:59 Amaz :P 14:59 ANAND Tee-hee 15:03 CWz +1 15:03 CWz that word is annoying. 15:03 aerozoic Is it some sort of internet wide thing i've not yet heard about? 15:04 ANAND Not sure. AFAIK, it's a local epidemic 15:04 BillyS No, actually, it's rdococ saying yay every 5 seconds 15:04 paramat it's ok occasionally when it naturally occurs :) that's what i mean by non-strict 15:05 aerozoic lol, if somebody is spamming, maybe they should be dealt with? 15:06 ANAND rdococ wasn't technically "spamming" - let's say they tend to get a little creative :) 15:06 BillyS heh 15:07 Shara Well, I won't mind if he happens to get kicked for it :) 15:15 tenplus1 Farming Redo updated (stairs now included in farming mod, stairs redo compatibility) 15:23 tenplus1 hrm, redstone api is quite interesting: http://computercraft.info/wiki/Redstone_(API) 15:23 CWz spam, by what definition? 15:24 CWz could we implement redstone in minetest 15:24 CWz Is it even possible? 15:24 tenplus1 it's very possible, the mc code is there to use but only workable in loaded map areas within a set range 15:25 tenplus1 mesecons work well but are slow on servers 15:30 rdococ No, actually, it's rdococ saying yay every 5 seconds 15:31 tenplus1 lol 15:31 rdococ How the hell can he be this annoyed? 15:31 Shara Many of us are. 15:31 Shara Can you please stop? 15:31 rdococ you seem to be deluded into thinking I say yay every 5 seconds 15:32 rdococ not everything I say is yay and I haven't said it in a while 15:32 rdococ so please get off my fucking case 15:34 rubenwardy > 60MB reference manual 15:34 rubenwardy ew 15:34 tenplus1 manual for what ? 15:34 Shara Was about to ask same 15:34 Krock JavaScript? 15:35 Krock ^ (node modules) 15:35 tenplus1 1970's Ford Capri ? 15:35 Krock We're going to continue this guessing game :3 15:35 Krock Toaster setup instructions with bitmaps as images? 15:36 Shara Krock: you read my mind :( 15:36 tenplus1 gotta have those pictures 15:36 Krock Shara, heh 15:37 rubenwardy it froze my computer 15:37 rubenwardy completely locked up 15:37 rubenwardy my 64GB RAM 40 core computer 15:38 rubenwardy this: http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.subset.architecture.reference/index.html 15:38 BillyS o.O 15:38 BillyS O.O 15:38 BillyS That is a serious computer 15:38 tenplus1 why would a reference manual be that big 15:38 Shara To freeze rubenwardy's computer, obviously. 15:38 rubenwardy it's 6666 pages 15:38 rubenwardy instruction sets are complicated 15:38 Krock sounds evil 15:38 BillyS lol 15:39 Shara And to think, we once believed technology would make our lives easier... 15:39 tenplus1 am gonna click link 15:40 rubenwardy it works fine in firefox, but not evince 15:40 rubenwardy silly 15:40 rdococ I'm not wrong. My scroll history is fairly extensive and I haven't seen a single time where I've said yay (except in my attempts to tell you this!). 15:40 tenplus1 works in chromium 15:40 Shara rdococ: I kicked you because apparently you could not protest politely and felt the need to throw insults instead. You did go overboard with it. It did annoy people. They'll annoy you back a bit in turn... 15:41 rdococ What, when you agreed with BillyS that I say yay every five seconds? 15:41 BillyS This is why I gave up arguing with rdococ ^ 15:41 Shara Now you make up things I didn't say and want to direct this against me personally? 15:42 * BillyS gabs popcorn 15:42 BillyS *grabs 15:42 rubenwardy oops 15:42 rubenwardy wrong link 15:42 Shara BillyS: share please? 15:42 BillyS Shara, ? 15:42 rdococ You were as annoyed as he was, though. 15:42 Shara The popcorn. 15:42 BillyS Oh, the popcorn? xD 15:42 Shara I want some. 15:42 Krock would it be possible to set up a mirror on GitHub for GitLab projects? I think that would help minetest-mods with the recently moved projects 15:42 * BillyS sends popcorn through IRC 15:42 BillyS 🍿 15:43 BillyS o/ benrob 15:43 tenplus1 I still think all git sites should allow linking to one another, just the front-end differs with some special services 15:43 rdococ Shara: I'm sorry, I have a fairly bad memory so I can't remember things too well. I may have misremembered about what you said, but you were definitely as annoyed as he was. Please don't think I'm an asshole. 15:43 rdococ Please. 15:43 rubenwardy correct link: https://developer.arm.com/products/architecture/a-profile/docs/ddi0487/latest/arm-architecture-reference-manual-armv8-for-armv8-a-architecture-profile 15:43 Shara I'm allowed to be annoyed. All's good with me if you just let it drop though. I don't have energy for fighting people. 15:44 rubenwardy Krock: with https://gitautomirror.rubenwardy.com you could 15:44 rubenwardy If I ever got around to finishing it 15:44 rdococ I barely have energy to get out of bed. 15:44 Krock already seen datasheets with several hundred pages, but that ARM one is a monstrosity 15:44 BillyS I am bursting with energy 15:45 * tenplus1 is bursting for the toilet 15:45 benrob0329 I don't understand why people are so rood towards those who don't trust Microsoft 15:45 BillyS xD 15:45 benrob0329 I mean, they definitly don't have a history of trying to screw everyone over 15:46 rubenwardy fun fact: ARM was original called Acorn Computers 15:46 rubenwardy they made a computer called the Acorn RISC Machine 15:46 rubenwardy look at those initials 15:46 tenplus1 I used one of those at school :) was fun 15:46 rubenwardy well, *ISA not computer 15:47 benrob0329 and yet at the same time, I think Microsoft could have truly changed 15:47 rubenwardy it's actually more complicated than that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arm_Holdings#History 15:48 tenplus1 I wouldnt trust M$ as far as I could throw them... 15:48 Shara benrob0329: I'm not for or against either group, just don't like the disruption it brings to MT... 15:49 benrob0329 tenplus1: Not far then, its difficult to throw an intangeble legal entity 15:49 Shara And sure, I wish MS had not bought github, because I don't like them, but also seems messed up to fall over ourselves running away 15:50 Shara I now have to go to four different sites for the mods that were previously on one...not so much fun :) 15:50 benrob0329 Shara: on one hand, yes. On the other, M$ has a history I'd rather not be a part of 15:50 tenplus1 they already had a kick ass deveklopment system they use for their programmers so whyyy buy github ?!? there must be a reason 15:50 Shara Sure ten, but would have been nice if everyone had moved to the same place 15:50 benrob0329 Honestly though, I moved to Gitlab a while back, and now I get a free t-shirt because of it :PP 15:51 tenplus1 minetest git... although depending where the main game ends up I'll prolly end up moving there too 15:51 tenplus1 although I do like notabug 15:51 Shara Well you having your mods on notabug is seriously annoying for the moment 15:51 BillyS I'm still on github, mainly because I'm too lazy to move 15:51 BillyS Although I have a gitlab account 15:52 Krock It ARM were a GNU-like project, it would be called something like ARM RISC Machine 15:53 shivajiva the reasons are about public perception and marketability of the company looking forward ;) 15:54 Shara My mods will stay on github until when/if MT itself moves 15:54 tumeninodes ^ 15:54 Shara And I'll be far les slikely to use mods stored anywhere else, and in some cases will simply be making my own forks of mods that have been removed 15:55 tumeninodes best scenario, would be for people to keep their github acct rolling, with a back up in place for when/if things start to get funky 15:57 tenplus1 hi mister 15:57 Mr_Pardison Hey 15:57 Mr_Pardison Using tablet, hard to type fast 15:58 tumeninodes I have opened 1 repo with several free git hosts to see what they're like. I'm hopeful sourceforge makes some more changes 15:59 Mr_Pardison So, I was taking with some other people and they said that in order to improve MT, a tutorial should be included or at least made an option. 16:01 rubenwardy ew sourceforge 16:01 rubenwardy just don't use that 16:01 rubenwardy maaallllwwwaaarrreee 16:01 ANAND really? 16:01 tenplus1 for anyone that needs them, mobs redo and farming redo are cloned on github 16:01 Mr_Pardison Opinion, comments, feedback on that? 16:02 tumeninodes rubenwardy https://sourceforge.net/blog/introducing-the-new-sourceforge/ 16:02 rubenwardy permanently ruined 16:02 rubenwardy the software is also terrible 16:02 tumeninodes notably this https://sourceforge.net/blog/sourceforge-now-scans-all-projects-for-malware-and-displays-warnings-on-downloads/ 16:03 rubenwardy malware should be allowed, as long as it's advertised properly 16:04 rubenwardy oh wait, > warnings 16:04 tumeninodes haha 16:04 rubenwardy https://github.com/malwares/PlasmaRAT 16:04 tumeninodes hey, the genral public like to be given the option to install malware 16:04 BillyS xD 16:05 rubenwardy more for researchers 16:05 BillyS Although, it's commonly called "Windows", not malware 16:05 Mr_Pardison Try 16:05 tumeninodes which most windows users do on a regular basis..., especially the OS they use 16:05 Mr_Pardison *tru 16:05 rdococ Malware detected: Win32 16:06 tumeninodes of course, remember alot of malware software IS, malware 16:07 tumeninodes the Norton, ant-virus..., virus 16:07 tenplus1 notron embeds itself into the system so deep it's scarey 16:07 tumeninodes yyyyyep 16:08 tumeninodes funny MS has money tied into the anti-virus companies they pushed... (I mean "promoted" 16:09 tumeninodes install our software to detect and guard against malware..., except our malware..., which isn't malware..., per-se 16:12 BillyS malware, spyware, there's a difference! :P 16:13 Mr_Pardison One has bad intentions the other aims to spy on you 16:21 tumeninodes oh, so there's a difference then? 16:22 tumeninodes why would anyone ever want to spy on me..., I am quite boring :D 16:22 rubenwardy election interference 16:22 Mr_Pardison I'm also quite boring 16:23 tenplus1 they wanna know how you feel about certain subjects and how you would vote etc. watching ppl is what they do 16:23 tumeninodes the only election interference I cause is running through voting stations in a thong woohooing like daffy duck 16:23 tenplus1 lol 16:24 tumeninodes oh..., while holding sparklers 16:24 Mr_Pardison XD 16:24 tenplus1 you dont work for the "Raving Looney Party" <-- actual uk electoral party 16:24 tumeninodes I'm for the "ME" party 16:24 tenplus1 Windows ME ? 16:24 tumeninodes ogm my eyes.... they burrrrnnnnn 16:25 Mr_Pardison tumeninodes: what a coincidence. So am I. 16:25 tumeninodes vote for me then 16:25 tumeninodes (meaning you) 16:25 Mr_Pardison Gladly. 16:25 CWz i wonder if minetest will run on windows me 16:26 tumeninodes no no..., no one wants me in charge.., I want to dump all violent criminals into the ocean :) but enough politicaltics 16:26 tumeninodes and that idea hurts the violent criminals feeling so... 16:27 Mr_Pardison Bah. 16:27 tumeninodes anyway... wth did I pop on for??? I had something in mind before I sidetracked everything 16:30 tumeninodes you know, violent criminals could be used to rebuild the coral reefs... (just a thought) 16:30 Mr_Pardison They could. 16:30 tumeninodes lotta organic matter there 16:31 Mr_Pardison And it would decrease the overcrowding problem 16:31 tumeninodes 1 boat = 2 solutions 16:31 tumeninodes yep that too 16:31 tumeninodes =3 solutions or more 16:32 tumeninodes ease the $ burden on the citizenry, definitely start making people think twice about committing a violent crime, etc 16:33 Mr_Pardison Many birds with one stone 16:33 tumeninodes feeds the pretty fishies.... I love fishies 16:33 tenplus1 I agree, it takes a lot of money to keep anyone in jail... have them rebuild roads, remove grafitti etc, something to have them pay for jail time 16:33 tumeninodes nope, that's forced manual slave labour... not allowed 16:34 tumeninodes it's against their rights 16:34 tenplus1 yet they are allowed to have tv's and game consoles etc. in their cell and special diets that are better than care homes and the elderly that pay to be there 16:34 rubenwardy are you talking about fertilisation? 16:34 rubenwardy wait, what? 16:34 tumeninodes in the US, criminals have more rights and laws to protect them than their victims have 16:35 rubenwardy err 16:35 rubenwardy prison should be for rehabilitation not punishment 16:35 rubenwardy if that's possible 16:35 rubenwardy so maybe they shouldn't have games consoles or tvs in their cell 16:35 rubenwardy but it still shouldn't be a hellhole 16:37 rubenwardy also, not everyone in prison has a victim 16:37 tumeninodes I am speaking of violent criminals 16:37 BillyS Prison sounds kinad fun 16:37 BillyS *kinda 16:38 tumeninodes meanwhile, in MTG.... :) 16:38 BillyS xD 16:38 rubenwardy violant criminals can still reform though, and they should be given opportunaties to do so through education and such 16:38 tumeninodes :| 16:38 rubenwardy but work should also be available to them for increase benefits 16:39 tumeninodes 1 in 50-100 violent criminals can/will ever be rehabilitated 16:39 tumeninodes and half of those will say they are, and then repeat offend shortly after release 16:40 BillyS Personally, I think that if you are gonna murder without a good reason, you need a lot more hen education 16:40 BillyS *then 16:40 rubenwardy violent criminal != murder 16:40 tumeninodes wll then people like to say everyone has their own opinion of a good reason 16:40 rubenwardy includes bank robbery and such 16:40 tenplus1 education in prison will go a long way to learning new skills and the chance of a job when you leave 16:40 BillyS Fair point 16:40 rubenwardy I think there is a compromise here anyway 16:41 tenplus1 but your violent offenders that keep doing what they do... there has to be something that can be done to stop that happening again 16:41 tumeninodes fishies, coral reefs 16:42 rubenwardy in most cases crime is related to poverty and lack of education 16:42 rubenwardy anyway, offtopic :'( 16:42 tumeninodes yeh 16:43 tumeninodes oh well... anyway.., I need to gather interest in adding the ability to call node-defs from within a TP 16:43 tumeninodes who's in? :D 16:43 tumeninodes wow, that was quick 16:43 tenplus1 TP ? 16:43 rubenwardy I don't think it should be lua really, maybe a JSON or XML file 16:43 tumeninodes texture pack 16:43 tumeninodes xml would due great 16:44 tumeninodes flexible 16:44 tumeninodes just to be able to do say, set animation, speed, etc 16:45 tumeninodes maybe even texture modifiers and so on 16:45 tumeninodes *do 16:45 rubenwardy do you know of texture overrides? 16:45 rubenwardy only works on tiles of nodes 16:45 tumeninodes but don;t want to have to do it via a mod 16:45 rubenwardy texture overrides is a file in a texture pack 16:46 rubenwardy overrides.txt 16:46 rubenwardy look in the tp ddocs 16:46 tumeninodes well shit 16:46 tumeninodes so I can set the defs of say a animated.png with an override.txt file? 16:47 tumeninodes slapped inside the TP? 16:47 rubenwardy one thing it can't do is animations 16:47 tumeninodes drat 16:47 rubenwardy you can only set the tiles to a string 16:47 rubenwardy not to a table (ala animations) 16:47 rubenwardy see the docs, they're good 16:47 rubenwardy not that I wrote them or anything 16:47 tumeninodes haha 16:47 tumeninodes I have looked at them a few times... never noticed that though 16:48 tumeninodes but that is the biggest reason I would like to push to have that ability added 16:49 tumeninodes it's either that or TP can just be done a mod, which is a heavier method 16:49 * Mr_Pardison hands tumeninodes some movestones to get the push started 16:50 tenplus1 lol 16:51 tumeninodes herrrrrrrrgh.... these things are heavy 16:52 tumeninodes whoah, I seem to be missing some letters today 16:52 tumeninodes Make Texture Packs Great Again! 16:53 tumeninodes or for short..., mtpgahhhhhhh 17:03 tumeninodes rubenwardy, do you have a link to that specific info? 17:03 rubenwardy docs/texture_packs.txt or smth 17:03 Fixer flightgear is hosted on SF 17:04 Fixer rubenwardy: have you looked into that weird code in cloudlands? 17:04 rubenwardy I read through it, and it's a bunch or registers and such 17:04 Fixer wat 17:04 rubenwardy wonder if CDB should ban obfuscated code 17:04 Fixer rubenwardy has 64gb ram 40 core computer? 17:04 rubenwardy rubenwardy's work does 17:05 rubenwardy it's my work machine 17:05 tenplus1 if only... heh... I have a max of 4gb intel atom 1.8ghz ht 17:06 Fixer rubenwardy: you probably opening it wrong, via shitadobe pdf reader 17:06 rubenwardy yeah, evince 17:07 tenplus1 ruben, try epdfviewer 17:07 tenplus1 that one's pretty handy 17:07 tenplus1 linux 17:08 Fixer i've noticed PC user inequality rises 17:09 tenplus1 also calibre may be able to splir pdf file into more readable chunks 17:09 Fixer i see tons of people with ridiculously low fps everywhere and 1080ti-change-every-year-dudes 17:10 Fixer rubenwardy: but why would you need 40 core PC? do you use all cores? 17:10 rubenwardy yes, regularly 17:10 rubenwardy https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HpzUZxP.png 17:10 rubenwardy Fixer, tenplus1^ 17:10 rubenwardy I'm working on security for the Android OS 17:11 rubenwardy so I regularly have to build the Linux kernel and all the ASOP components 17:11 Krock is dat enoug dedtated wam to run minecraft? 17:11 tenplus1 how long does that usually take on that setup ? 17:11 rubenwardy about 3 hours 17:11 Fixer rubenwardy: BUT DOES FIREFOX 52ESR LAG ON IT? 17:11 rubenwardy from scratch 17:12 rubenwardy Minetest takes 30 seconds to build from scratch 17:12 tenplus1 speaking of which, is 0.4.17-1 available for download yet on linux ? 17:12 tenplus1 the fixed verison 17:12 rubenwardy > linux 17:13 Krock yes sure. but you'll have to compile it until the ubuntu PPA is updated 17:13 Krock > verison > 0.4.17-1 17:13 tenplus1 not so much the ubuntu ppa but the launchpad download 17:14 aerozoic too bad Amazon codecommit doesn't do public repos 17:14 tenplus1 https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable 17:14 Krock ^ that's what I meant 17:17 rubenwardy I see why my friend who worked here got a threadripper soon after leaving 17:18 rubenwardy apart from the good pay and lack of responsibilities 17:38 tenplus1 o/ gary 17:40 garywhite o/ 17:42 aerozoic notabug looks very similar to github 17:42 tenplus1 that's why I like it :) and it's fast... and a few easier to read features 17:43 aerozoic i wonder if it also will host jekyl websites? 17:44 tenplus1 ??? 17:44 aerozoic static pages like github pages 17:44 tenplus1 oh 17:50 Shara Anyone have recommendations for survival servers that are actually difficult in some way? 17:50 tenplus1 *cough* 17:51 Shara I love Xanadu, but it ain't difficult :P 17:51 tenplus1 ehehe 17:53 tenplus1 might have to redo the monster damage levels 18:14 tumeninodes ok, who wants to attempt adding alpha to the crack animation in the engine? :P 18:15 tumeninodes recommendations/ideas to make things difficult??? 18:16 tenplus1 for survival ? 18:16 tumeninodes create and add a task api 18:18 tumeninodes player (along with foraging) needs to complete task A to be able to obtain a specified survival skill 18:18 tumeninodes of simply allow spawn killing..., that makes survival pretty difficult from the start 18:21 tenplus1 hwo about Real Torch mod, make it so normal torches go out after a time and can be relit... would scare the crap out of players if they did that while underground :D 18:22 tumeninodes even better, make it so they have to dip the torch into some form of pitch, tar, or oil to be able to light it with flint&steel, set a burn time 18:23 Krock tenplus1, tested that mod on a server several years ago - but it was awful to re-fill all torches :'( 18:23 tenplus1 flint & steel can relight torches :) or gunpowder... but if you us gunpowder on a lit torch it goes boom boom 18:23 tumeninodes and they would need to have some cloth as well. craft a torch with stick and cloth, then dip into substance 18:24 Krock they needed to be right-clicked with coal, however 18:24 tenplus1 Krock: it only makes survival more difficult in that torches act real, they even drop when water is next to them 18:24 tenplus1 you can use coal powder, gun powder or flint & steel to relight :) 18:24 * Krock cries in ABMs 18:24 tumeninodes yes, torches should definitely not remain lit/placable under water 18:25 tenplus1 the water drop feature is light :) dont worry krock 18:25 tumeninodes they should go out as fire:flames do 18:25 Fixer lol 18:25 tenplus1 and we have abritorches on xanadu as permanent light for players to aspire to :D 18:25 Fixer notabug now has some minetest related repos 18:25 tumeninodes mese lamps are ok for underwater 18:26 tumeninodes but not torches..., that's just sick and twisted 18:26 tenplus1 torches underwater are cheating... abritorches work only cause they are mostly crystal light 18:27 tumeninodes there should also be a chance setting for some foods to be spoiled and make the player sick 18:27 tumeninodes a bad apple for instance 18:27 tenplus1 would require an inventory check every so often, wouldnt that be heavy 18:28 tumeninodes ok then... a parasidic worm in an apple, that feeds and grows inside the player until they get so bloated..,they explode or turn into a raging zombie and... 18:28 tumeninodes neh..... nvm 18:30 tenplus1 player poop mod... after every food item start a timer, 10 minutes later a poop item appears behind player :D 18:30 rubenwardy XD 18:30 tumeninodes a parkour maze with exploding nodes randomnly spread around which detonate when jumped on 18:30 tenplus1 ahh, the on_walk_over function in playerplus would handle that nicely 18:31 sofar hmm, that would make for a fun ITB box 18:31 tenplus1 o/ sofar 18:32 tumeninodes exactly 18:32 rubenwardy #FreeITB 18:32 tumeninodes dysentery mod 18:32 sofar lol! 18:33 * tumeninodes is imagining the number of overly excited, screaming kids playing ITB with exploding parkour 18:33 tenplus1 parkour is fun, especialyl timed bombs 18:34 tumeninodes oh yeahhhhhh 18:34 tumeninodes whchagotthere? "It's a whammy kablammy 18:34 rubenwardy Fixer: didn't know you made receipts https://i.redd.it/ma4udd4xqj311.jpg 18:35 rubenwardy G A R L I C 18:35 Fixer lol 18:35 Fixer O R G A N I C 18:35 sofar food nutrition labels gone wild 18:36 Fixer is there nonorganic garlic I have not seen? 18:36 Krock G A R L I C B R E A D M E M E S 18:36 Fixer how can it be nonorganic? It is organic by definition 18:36 rubenwardy Heh 18:36 sofar of course garlic can be non-organic 18:37 Fixer plastic garlic? 18:37 rubenwardy Organic usually means that no chemicals were used on it 18:37 tumeninodes truth in packaging, just got some cheddar cheese thingies yesterday that state "No artificial colours OR flavoring" result: there is NO flavour, so they are at least honest 18:37 rubenwardy Only came into contact with natural thinfa 18:37 Krock gj. found the same recipe image in r/CrappyDesign after the first sub guess 18:37 rubenwardy I guess 18:38 Fixer in some East Europe countries 50% of cheese is made of nonmilk 18:38 tenplus1 hi DI3HARD139 18:39 tumeninodes so..., it's non-cheese? 18:39 Fixer yeah, but they still lie 18:39 Fixer saying it is cheese 18:39 sofar "cheese fantasy" 18:39 DI3HARD139 Hello 18:39 tumeninodes I'd like to order a large non-cheese pizza please 18:40 tumeninodes nothing we eat today is real... even bananas are fake now 18:41 tumeninodes and eating healthy can get quite expensive..., seems it cost more to do nothing to food.., than to load it with shit 0_o 18:41 Fixer "organic - relating or belonging to the class of chemical compounds having a carbon basis" 18:41 sofar that's the chemical definition 18:41 tumeninodes mmmm, I do love me some carbon 18:41 sofar on food nutrition labels in the US, it refers to the FDA definition 18:42 tumeninodes should be the FU-DA 18:42 sofar sorry, not FDA, USDA 18:42 tumeninodes awe, you ruined my joke.... 18:42 * tumeninodes stomps out 18:42 Fixer maybe we have silicon based garlic somewhere in USA? 18:42 sofar https://www.ams.usda.gov/rules-regulations/organic 18:42 Fixer we just don't know it 18:43 Fixer lol, that is some big document, tl;dr 18:43 * tumeninodes is looking at the garlic crust pizza he is eating from last night 18:44 BillyS LOL, I turned one of my players into a midget. xD 18:44 * tumeninodes shrugs..., continues eating 18:44 tenplus1 lol 18:44 BillyS Someone should make a mod for that ... maybe me 18:45 tumeninodes you should do that right now 18:46 tumeninodes maybe someone should add organic garlic to farming.... sshhh, there I just reset the counter ; ) 18:46 tenplus1 lol, already have 18:46 benrob0329 is anything in MT not organic? 18:46 Fixer not yet, but I hope tin/brone will find a use in future MTG 18:47 tumeninodes whoah? we have brone now??!! 18:47 tumeninodes when was that added? 18:47 sofar pixels are not on the allowed chemicals list, so they are inorganic 18:48 tumeninodes pixels have rights too ya know 18:48 Fixer bronze 18:48 Fixer i mean 18:48 Fixer also, what is brone? 18:48 tumeninodes spoiled brine 18:49 tumeninodes i.e. "My, this brine is brone..., I will throw it away" 18:50 tumeninodes I'm posting a poll to turn the character name to "Brah" 18:56 tumeninodes so, according to non-organinc things allowed in foods labeled as "organic", the organic food which people pay more for, is probably fairly un-organic.... haha, suckaz 19:04 tenplus1 o/ ssieb 19:05 ssieb hi 19:09 tenplus1 in 0.4.17 when adjusting player collisionbox to half height, why wont the player fall to the ground ??? 19:10 nerzhul https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DffWzL2W4AIepN1.jpg haha 19:10 tenplus1 lol 19:11 tumeninodes omg! hahaha 19:11 Krock is the "woman" next to Trump Macron? 19:11 nerzhul it's the canadian prime minister 19:11 tumeninodes Trueno 19:12 nerzhul there is no Macron here 19:12 tumeninodes ha 19:12 Krock yes it would've been weird if it was Macron because they're not like best friends 19:12 tenplus1 does changing player collosionbox actually do anything in 0.4.17 ??? 19:13 tumeninodes of course it does... it..., changes the players collisionbox... jeesh 19:13 tenplus1 sadly no, player can be tiny but still floats in air 19:13 tenplus1 am wondering if this is a 0.5x feature only 19:14 Krock also change the selection box? 19:15 Krock one of them does not work for 0.4.x players 19:15 tenplus1 tried both 19:16 tenplus1 changed visual_size to 0.5 and halved y values in collision and selectionbox and player floats in mid air 19:17 tumeninodes hey, look what I just found https://projects.coworkery.com/minetest-games/minetest_game 19:17 tumeninodes do you have to change step height too? 19:18 tenplus1 step height is only for walking up nodes, shouldnt affect gravity of model 19:18 MinetestBot IhrFussel: Jun-12 04:53 UTC stereo sound that fades with distance is therefore located in the world, so it should also be directional. one without the other is very weird and not useful so openAL doesn't do it. "You seem to focus too much on the idea of positional being 3D" lol they're identical. "But that is how reality works!" no, a stereo sound system is also directional, it's 2 directional sound sources 19:18 MinetestBot IhrFussel: Jun-12 04:57 UTC see issue 1823 19:18 tenplus1 o/ fussel 19:19 IhrFussel !tell paramat Stereo sounds *already* work with OpenAL just the fading is missing ... stereo sounds simply only play within the specified radius (max_hear_distance) and again IMO it can be useful to just lower the volume based purely on position distance 19:19 MinetestBot IhrFussel: yeah, sure, whatever 19:20 IhrFussel Hi there tenplus1 ... is the stamina mod compatible with any other mod that uses do_item_eat() ? 19:21 tenplus1 it overrides core.do_item_eat 19:24 IhrFussel So it breaks other eating mods? 19:24 tenplus1 yes, it shouldnt be used with other eating mods 19:24 IhrFussel I mean other items to eat 19:25 tenplus1 explain 19:25 IhrFussel What if I want to add a mod that simply has one eatable item 19:25 tenplus1 then it'll work dine 19:25 tenplus1 *fine 19:25 tenplus1 as you eat an item whatever value is inside do_eat(number) will be added to stamina/hunger or removed as poison 19:28 garywhite Minetest - In Stereo Where Available 19:32 sofar IhrFussel: fading for stereo is not supported by openal and nonsensical, it will never be supported 19:33 sofar in the linked bug report I listed the alternatives 19:37 IhrFussel To me it's only nonsensical to FORCE everyone to convert their sounds to mono 19:37 tumeninodes https://startups.coworkery.com/#minetestedu heh, so cool 19:38 IhrFussel Stereo is the standard today 19:40 Krock but only if you could specify two positions for the playback 19:42 rubenwardy Lol 19:44 tumeninodes openAL soft supports stereo https://github.com/kcat/openal-soft 19:49 tenplus1 nite all 19:50 tumeninodes g'nite tenplus1 19:55 tumeninodes woops, nvm openAL soft was already mentioned and looked into by sofar 20:32 xerox123 \o o/ 21:03 xerox123 gnite all o/ 22:58 Fixer sooo 22:59 Fixer downloaded drivers for mid2000 PC (vga, mb, sound, network, raid) - 67mb, HOW ABOUT THAT, ELON! 23:01 Fixer and that is for W95-WXP long support 23:02 Fixer current 2008-era craptop has 700mb of shit-drivers shipping chtulhu knows what 23:02 Fixer probably NSA/China spyware written in .NET 23:03 Fixer and that is just for Win7......... 23:16 Fixer and ofc it had that insert floppy to install sata driver before xp install, and floppy was ERROR 40 23:17 Fixer how player autoforward works in minetest? 23:50 rubenwardy https://steamcommunity.com/updates/chatupdate :O 23:55 Fixer rubenwardy: steam vs discord? 23:55 rubenwardy ? 23:55 rubenwardy That's the new steam system, they've finally updated it 23:55 Fixer rubenwardy: steam copies discord features... 23:55 Fixer i guess 23:56 Fixer last time I used steam was like 10 years ago 23:56 rubenwardy And discord copies loads of other services 23:56 Fixer yeah