Time Nick Message 13:35 Krock *greets* 13:37 Krock [Nick multiplying intensifies] 13:39 ANAND Greetings Krock! 13:40 ANAND and Mr_Pardison! 13:40 Krock Hi Mr_Pardison, ANAND, entuland (4) 13:40 Mr_Pardison greetings, ANAND and Krock 13:41 ANAND How many 'entuland's?! :O 13:41 Mr_Pardison as of right now, 3. 13:41 ANAND -.- 13:50 ANAND Krock, any idea why #7336 has been put on hold? 13:50 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7336 -- Implemented hasprivs chat-command (Closes #7266) by ClobberXD 13:51 Krock Beep. The information service is currently unavailable. Please contact the information service for more information. 13:52 ANAND Sure, that was very helpful, thanks! :P 14:28 ANAND How do I stop getting notifications from a forum topic I posted in? 14:28 Mr_Pardison github post or what? 14:32 Shara ANAND: check in user control panel... you probably turned on something in board preferences there 14:54 ANAND Shara, I have enabled "Notify me upon replies by default". I've manually unsubscribed from the topic(s) though... 14:58 ANAND Keeps appearing at the top of the "View my posts" page whenever the topic receives a reply 15:00 Shara I've never used that feature, so really have no idea. 15:00 Shara Github alone already spams my email enough. Don't need to add the forum to that :D 15:01 ANAND Haha 15:02 Mr-Pardison ^ same with me. 15:02 Mr-Pardison I made a post on technic and I've been getting quite a lot of emails fro github about posts ppl have made. 15:03 ANAND Mr-Pardison, you can click on the "Unsubscribe" button on the right 15:03 ANAND Much easier to unsubscribe on Github 15:31 xerox123 huge thunderstorm here 15:31 ANAND Have fun :P 15:38 rdococ A NAND gateâ„¢ 15:38 rdococ Yay for the SunShine hereâ„¢ 15:39 ANAND o/ rdococ! 15:42 rdococ I am playing Mario Kartâ„¢ 15:42 rdococ I can't stopâ„¢ 15:43 Mr_Pardison here's how: let go of the gas pedal key. 17:33 BillyS My server is crashing for some reason that I can't figure out. It happens about every hours or so, and it is very annoying. Any suggestions on what it coudl be? 17:33 BillyS *could 17:33 Shara Checked logs for errors? 17:33 sfan5 anything in dmesg? 17:33 BillyS Yep 17:33 BillyS No errors, when I run it in a terminal it just says "Killed" 17:34 BillyS sfan5: Ah, thats it. It was $%^#ing OOM 17:34 longerstaff13 thought it might havebeen 17:34 BillyS Not much I can do about that . . . 17:34 sfan5 add more ram :P 17:34 longerstaff13 I think he has a dedicated server 17:34 IhrFussel Not sure how you get a OOM...I never got one with MT and 180 mods 17:35 BillyS Were you running on 512 Mb of RAM? 17:35 longerstaff13 lol 17:35 BillyS I have a VPS, and adding more RAM is quite expensive 17:35 sfan5 also that, unless you are on a very resource-constrained system you shouldn't hit the limit in normal circumstancs 17:35 Shara Fussel, only takes one mod to OOM 17:35 sfan5 circumstances* 17:35 IhrFussel I got 12 GB which I don't need but there is no other option @ my hoster 17:36 IhrFussel 4 cores 12 GB RAM or 2 cores 8 GB RAM 17:36 BillyS :envy: 17:36 BillyS I have two options: Plenty of processing power and no bandwith, or plenty of bandwidth and no processing power 17:36 IhrFussel Maybe look for a better hoster? 17:37 BillyS I could try, but I'm already getting a great deal. 17:37 sfan5 how much ram do you have anyway? 17:37 BillyS 512 Mb 17:37 sfan5 that's quite few 17:37 IhrFussel Traffic is always unlimited* @ my hoster ... *(reducing bandwith after 20 TB) 17:37 Krock 512 MB* I assume 17:37 BillyS What is your hoster? 17:37 BillyS Yes 17:37 BillyS I went with IPXCore 17:38 BillyS $25 dollars a year 17:38 longerstaff13 that is cheap 17:38 IhrFussel My hoster is netcup ... usually a German hoster but they also accept foreign customers 17:38 sfan5 can't beat that 17:38 BillyS Yep 17:38 BillyS Hmm, rn MT is only using 44% of my RAM 17:38 Krock that should be fine for light mods but causes problems when Lua makes use of big vmanip areas 17:39 BillyS Maybe if I killed apache and mysql 17:39 Krock so there will be short peaks of a larger memory use - shortly afterwards, back to normal 17:39 BillyS ah 17:39 IhrFussel I should clarify: Mine is not a dedicated server but I have guaranteed CPU, RAM and disk space and it mostly doesn't lag 17:40 Shara BillyS: It's only a great deal if it does what you need without giving you constant bother :) 17:41 BillyS Heh 17:42 BillyS Strange . . . arrording to top, I'm using about 50% of my memory 17:42 BillyS But my provider say's I'm using 87% 17:42 IhrFussel BillyS, https://www.netcup.eu/vserver/ (it says v server which is VPS but they are no regular VPS) 17:42 Shara The real problem you'll get is mods that cause a sudden spike in usage 17:43 Shara Any mod that does much with mapgen can make problems more likely for you 17:43 Shara And if you have multiple players generating different bits of map at a time... it gets worse 17:44 BillyS Grr, thats annoying 17:44 BillyS too bad I can't increase swap . . 17:44 BillyS That would be slower, but at least it would stop OOm from kicking in (I tihnk) 17:46 BillyS Although, once the map around spawn is mostly generated, it shouldn't be as bad, correct? 17:47 Shara Depends on the mods used, number of players and what exactly is kicking off the memory spikes 17:50 rubenwardy ew, apache and mysql 17:50 sfan5 what do you use instead? 19:01 * Fixer looks at https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/36130650/40650136-2fc230c2-6350-11e8-9e3a-5976e1f91d0c.png 19:03 rubenwardy there's an issue for that lol 19:09 Krock I'm sure he copied it from the issue 19:45 Fixer rubenwardy: i don't have screenshots in your content browser in newest mt 19:46 Fixer rubenwardy: https://i.imgur.com/KbDdaIN.png 19:47 rubenwardy works for m 19:47 rubenwardy I need to update it anyway, I've added thumbnail support now 19:52 paramat BillyS maybe it's luajit causing OOM? but without it you'd still have to be careful with mods 20:07 BillyS paramat: I don't have lua-intensive mods tho, (I don't think). Would that change anything? 20:17 IhrFussel BillyS, you shoud monitor free -m to see if/when the RAM is exceeded 20:17 IhrFussel should* 20:18 paramat do you have a list of your mods anywhere? yes mods can have a huge effect on RAM use 20:19 IhrFussel If you monitor RAM usage you will also see if it's a rather sudden spike or a slow increase over time ... if it's the latter then it's likely a "leak" somewhere 20:20 BillyS IhrFussel, is that a ubuntu command? 20:21 BillyS paramat, 1 sec 20:21 IhrFussel On my server the RAM usage is a pretty consistent 1 GB and if the mods don't have a memory leak the usage should be more or less the same 20:22 IhrFussel BillyS, the command should work on most Linux distros 20:22 IhrFussel To monitor you could simply type "watch free -m" which will refresh the info every 2 secs 20:24 BillyS The mods I have are: 3d_armor, areas, cottages, craftguide, crafting_bench, currency, homedecor, irc, letters, mapfix, maptools, moreblocks, moreores, plasticbox, player_textures, quartz, ropes, shields, simple_skins, smartshop, spawn_command, stairs, stamina, streetlamps, streetsconcrete, streetsmod, teleport_requestion, titanium, travelnet, unififeddyes, walls, worldedit, worldedit_commands, and all 20:24 BillyS the mods in minetest_game 20:24 BillyS IhrFussel: Well, that explains a lot, as I have 0.5 GB of RAM. :P 20:26 IhrFussel Intensive mods: craftguide (can cause lots of meta on the map), homedecor (lots of particles) ... you don't have as much mods as me which means the RAM usage should be a lot less 20:27 IhrFussel Just watch free -m and you will see how exactly your machine gets an OOM 20:27 BillyS Hmm, good to know 20:27 IhrFussel Of course you should only run minetestserver for the monitoring or else you could get false results 20:28 BillyS yeah 20:29 IhrFussel It could also help if you post your minetest.conf 20:30 IhrFussel There are certain server settings to make MT more lightweight on CPU and RAM 20:30 BillyS Sure 20:31 BillyS http://0x0.st/s2v2.conf 20:32 BillyS Probably should change that enable_tnt = true line at the end 20:33 IhrFussel You didn't tune any map sending/loading settings...one sec 20:33 BillyS kk 20:34 IhrFussel How much cores do you have? 20:35 BillyS 2 20:35 IhrFussel num_emerge_threads = 2 helps with map generation speed 20:36 BillyS Ok, Ill add that 20:36 IhrFussel max_objects_per_block = 35 << reduces the amount of allowed objects per 16x16x16 area (default is 50 or so and I found 35 to be quite enough) 20:37 BillyS Added that as well 20:38 IhrFussel max_block_send_distance = 5 & max_block_generate_distance = 3 << you can change the values however you like...the defaults are quite high for a loaded server 20:41 BillyS Got those too. Anything else? 20:41 IhrFussel active_block_range = 1 << range around player in which ABMs run (default is 3 I think) 20:42 IhrFussel 2 is fine too doesn't have to be 1 20:44 IhrFussel server_unload_unused_data_timeout = 29 << set this a bit lower to consume less RAM (caused by loaded mapblocks) 20:45 BillyS ok 20:47 IhrFussel Also not sure if rollback behavior could eat RAM...ask the devs there 20:49 IhrFussel With all those adjusted values applied monitor the memory usage and see if OOMs still happen 20:56 paramat thanks 20:57 paramat worldedit can use lots of memory but the crash would be when you use a command, so that would be obvious 21:01 BillyS thanks for all the help. ;D 22:01 sofar rubenwardy: are you going to publish usage statistics? e.g. popular content items etc 22:01 rubenwardy yeah 22:01 rubenwardy there will be download counting 22:02 rubenwardy what other stats? 22:04 xerox123 rubenwardy: we have big trol spam on ctf just now btw 22:05 sofar rubenwardy: web page clicks perhaps? 22:05 rubenwardy prik 22:05 rubenwardy heh 23:47 rdococ hm, first time I've ever been genuinely amused enough by an ad to click it (on tablet, because I have an ad blocker on the browsers on my laptop) 23:47 rdococ (well, I also have an ad blocker for firefox on my tablet, but it was on a different app) 23:48 rud0lf i sometimes click ads 23:48 rud0lf if they seem reasonable 23:48 rud0lf if there was a central database, and i survey i could perform, i'd like that