Time Nick Message 07:28 tenplus1 hi folks 07:33 Thomas-S Hello, tenplus1! 07:33 tenplus1 hi thomas :P 07:36 ANAND Hey 11! :P 07:36 tenplus1 hey ANAND :) 07:37 tenplus1 am thining of tweaking mobs_animals to be more rare in the world, whaddya think ? 07:37 Thomas-S sounds like a good idea 07:38 tenplus1 also some low-end servers reported having too many mobs running around, so I may have "remove_far_mobs" enabled by default 08:03 tenplus1 done... api and animals updated with new changes :) 08:07 tenplus1 hi soupfly 08:10 IcyDiamond why does my crafting sfinv override not work 08:10 IcyDiamond the crafting doesn't 08:10 tenplus1 hi icy 08:10 IcyDiamond hey 08:11 IcyDiamond oh nvm my fault 08:11 soupfly are you using "sfinv.register_page" ? 08:12 soupfly er sfinv.override_page 08:12 IcyDiamond i want to resize the default crafting gui to 2x2 instead of 3x3 08:12 IcyDiamond doesn't look like its working properly 08:13 IcyDiamond do i have to change something else too to make it work? 08:13 IcyDiamond recipes seem.. rotated 08:13 IcyDiamond in some odd way 08:13 shivajiva Hiya tenplus :) 08:14 tenplus1 hi shiva, how's things ? 08:14 IcyDiamond list[current_player;craft;2,1;2,2;] 08:14 shivajiva not bad thanks, hbu? 08:14 tenplus1 tweaking mob spawning values :) 08:17 tenplus1 been a long time coming, feeling not-lazy today ;) 08:17 shivajiva I've been playing with unity since I found the Linux beta 08:17 tenplus1 ooh, made anything kewl yet ? 08:18 soupfly I was just looking at how to change the crafting formspec but I lost my notes 08:18 shivajiva just the tank game from the tutorial, next step is to add some fluff like menus and then maybe some powerups to make the gameplay more interesting 08:20 tenplus1 :) neat 08:20 shivajiva just thought it would be interesting to learn the unity process as it's extensible 08:20 tenplus1 always fun to learn something new :) 08:23 tenplus1 blank v7 map with new mob spawn settings... animals are rare, monsters the usual :) found a horse and made saddle to ride around :) is pretty nice 08:24 shivajiva :) 08:26 longerstaff13 Hi 08:26 tenplus1 hi longer 08:28 * tenplus1 needs better horse textures :P 08:42 shivajiva any budding artists present? 08:43 shivajiva apparently not lol 08:43 tenplus1 lol 08:44 tenplus1 am checking this out again: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10623 08:44 tenplus1 this is where I got some of the better mob textures to begin with :D 08:48 shivajiva MFF's cow skin texture looks very real, need the same thing for a horse 08:49 tenplus1 just posted asking for someone to help :D 08:49 tenplus1 the dungeon master skins were really good, that's why we use all 3 of them and select randomly ingame 08:50 shivajiva do we have a layout for mob textures or is it dependant on the mesh used? 08:51 tenplus1 depends on the mesh... the one in mobs redo was done by KruptoPavel, and mc_mobs uses minecraft model 08:53 shivajiva thought so, otherwise it would be easy 08:57 tenplus1 it'll happen one day :D 09:07 tenplus1 minecraft horse textures are quite elaborate: http://novask.in/9296521.png 09:08 tenplus1 hi Gael-de-Sailly 09:08 Gael-de-Sailly Hi tenplus1 09:08 tenplus1 :P 09:08 Gael-de-Sailly now i have voice :) 09:09 shivajiva https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVrJUbeuG44 09:10 * tenplus1 cooks bacon with laser rifle 09:12 Gael-de-Sailly hakuna matata :p 09:13 shivajiva that kid is a loony, check his ruby laser out, it's so powerful it damages the lenses on the second or third firing and he uses proper coated lenses 09:15 tenplus1 lol 09:15 tenplus1 https://github.com/maikerumine/mobs_mc <-- these are really good mobs for minetest 09:15 tenplus1 uses redo api but damn are they just like mc 09:17 shivajiva how good is the horse? 09:17 tenplus1 really good, it's mc specific 09:18 tenplus1 I dunno how legal this mod really is 09:18 shivajiva lol 09:18 tenplus1 it has ALL the mobs in minecraft right down to the new shulkers and husks... and detailed textures 09:19 shivajiva good chance the textures were extracted from mc then 09:19 tenplus1 seems they were taken from a free texture pack FOR mc 09:20 tenplus1 my only issue is that the mobs themselves are 5.6mb 09:20 tenplus1 but for what you are getting, it's worth the size :) 09:20 shivajiva wonder what license the original pack was released under 09:21 tenplus1 making a new v7 world with mc_mobs enabled :) wanna test 09:23 tenplus1 k, the horses are really good 09:24 tenplus1 even adds bows n arrows :D I like it 09:43 tenplus1 heh sweet, they used group attack feature for zombie pigmen :P 09:46 longerstaff13 Heh 09:56 tenplus1 hi CWz, Fixer 09:58 Shara Hi all 09:58 tenplus1 o/ Shara 09:58 Shara Hi Ten, how's it going? 09:59 tenplus1 okies, am playing with mobs_mc 09:59 tenplus1 u? 09:59 Shara Not bad thanks :) 10:05 tenplus1 v7 world is nice with spawn changes :P mobs attack at night as always :) 10:06 shivajiva Hi Shara 10:09 CWz Ello tenplus1 10:09 tenplus1 o/// 11:45 Fixer \\\o 11:45 tenplus1 :P 12:16 * tenplus1 attempts to build 0.4.17 from source 12:20 tenplus1 hi entuland 12:20 entuland hello there 12:20 tenplus1 :P 12:20 tenplus1 hows you? 12:21 entuland frenzy 12:21 entuland I should be quitting smoking and I'm already freaking out 12:22 tenplus1 erk, no vape to kirb withdrawal ? 12:22 entuland nope, the only problem is that I haven't decided it, if I did, I wouldn't need anything 12:23 entuland ah crap this is a logged channel as well and we're off topic, sorry, let's drop it :) 12:23 tenplus1 lol, k 12:23 tenplus1 48% complete, man this compiling is so slow 12:24 entuland compiling minetest? 12:24 tenplus1 yeah... i dont get that I can download 0.4.16 stable and 0.5x dev to install and run, but not 0.4.17 which is next in line ?!/! 12:24 entuland aren't there automatic builds somewhere? 12:25 tenplus1 sadly no, only for the above 2... 0.4.17 seems to be a compile your own version... 12:25 tenplus1 no wonder ppl cant test it 12:25 * tenplus1 would be quit happy if 0.5 was next release instead 12:28 entuland I have no idea how all the post-0.4.16 dev is going, but isn't 0.4.17 the backport one listed here? https://gitlab.com/minetest/minetest/-/jobs 12:29 tenplus1 yeah, 0.4.17 is new bugfixes and changes in 0.5 making it's way onto 0.4 branch... it seems things are going ass for elbow here... 12:29 tenplus1 just release 0.5 as next stable and amke 0.5.1 enxt dev 12:29 tenplus1 the interin release is confusing things 12:30 entuland ah well it's already a good thing that I'm managing to use github to publish my own code without messing things up - anything beyond that, including correctly branching and merging back, passes straight above my head 12:31 tenplus1 I agree :) git gui uploads my stuff and changes, but anything else I avoid 12:31 entuland :) 12:32 tenplus1 78% 12:33 tenplus1 my wee intel atom wasnt designed for this 12:33 entuland eheheh 12:34 Shara tenplus1: some of us want the bug fixes without jumping straight into a compatability breaking release, thanks 12:34 Shara 0.4.17 is needed 12:34 tenplus1 then they have to make it easier for people to download and test... 12:35 tenplus1 there's no way in hell I'll be compiling each new version of 0.4.17 to try out new things... 12:35 Shara I'm not against testing being made easier, but the answer isn't not having the release 12:35 tenplus1 and if it's gonna be the next in line for stable release then binaries should have been provided 12:36 Shara I want 0.4.17 so my servers can go back to normal 12:37 Shara For a given value of normal anyway 12:37 entuland you have issues with 0.4.16 that prevent you to run them, Shara? 12:37 tenplus1 +100 definitely, but we need binaries available just incase something screws up and server owners can test 12:37 tenplus1 94% o.O 12:37 Shara entuland: not that prevent me to run them, but I had problems on my server that I can't fix on stable 12:38 tenplus1 does 0.4.17 fix the android unlimited reach issue ? 12:39 Shara Don't know, and it wouldn't matter since they'd just use old clients anyway (I assume it's a client side issue at least...?) 12:42 tenplus1 testing 0.4.17 12:42 tenplus1 er... fireflies has a bug 12:43 tenplus1 it seemd minetest.get_decoration_id() doesnt exist for fireflies to call... ?!?!?! 12:47 Shara fireflies shouldn't be in 0.4.17 12:47 Shara 0.4.17 is a bug fix release, fireflies are a new feature 12:47 tenplus1 ? I git cloned 0.4 backport, it grabbed everything from that 12:47 tenplus1 checking 12:48 tenplus1 hi baker 12:50 Shara I don't see fireflies on backport branch 12:51 tenplus1 I removed and re-cloned 12:52 tenplus1 hi mister 12:52 Mr_Pardison ahoy. 12:54 Mr_Pardison had to run fsck /dev/sda1 on my other laptop and it is taking a while to fix all the "Buffer I/O error on dev sda1, logical block #########, async page read" 12:54 tenplus1 k is working now... loaded mobs, pova, armor, stamina, ambience to test 12:54 Shara :) 12:54 * Mr_Pardison slaps his other laptop with a cement block 12:56 tenplus1 hrm, turned off shaders and went from 37fps to 50 12:56 Mr_Pardison yeah... shaders seem to drag down FPS on some devices, esp. w/ older hardware. 12:57 tenplus1 nvidio ion v2 mobile gfx here 12:58 tenplus1 ambience really adds to the game :) this is awesome 12:59 entuland sorry went afk. okay Shara 12:59 entuland I hope to see new stuff as well, seems that interesting stuff is under the works 12:59 entuland hopefully sooner or later those will include the registration / alteration of nodes while the world is running 13:04 tenplus1 wait a sec, creative priv isnt in 0.4.17 backports 13:06 Shara tenplus1: was that classed as a bugfix? 13:06 Shara If not, it won't be included 13:06 tenplus1 hi sniper 13:38 Fixer tenplus1: yeah, in my cases I had shaders seriously affected fps without offering much benefits 13:38 Fixer in default state i mean 13:39 Fixer hd6870 had serious fps drop, same from 10 years old laptop intel integrated, like 5 fps with shaders enabled, 30+ when disabled 13:39 tenplus1 I prefer a basic game without all the fancy effects enabled anyhoo :) 13:40 Fixer have not checked x800 gto 13:40 tenplus1 I wonder if anyone is running minetest in 4k with GT 1080 13:40 Mr-Pardison I'd love to be able to do that. 14:31 xerox123_ Hello 14:32 tenplus1 hi xerox 14:32 tenplus1 Xanadu is back up and active with latest udpates :D 14:35 Mr-Pardison hopping brb 14:41 xerox123_ o/ tenplus1 and Mr_Pardison 14:41 xerox123_ what's new on Xanadu? 14:42 Mr_Pardison \o xerox123_ 14:42 tenplus1 updates to farming redo, mobs api, animal/monster spawning, creative, stairs redo, ethereal and some tweaks 14:45 Mr_Pardison so, anyone know how to program an automated subway from advanced trains since I can't figure out how it works for the life of me. 14:47 tenplus1 that mod looks great but never tried it :D 14:49 Mr_Pardison I have it in a local game on one of my laptops but I can't figure out how to make the subway cars automated. 14:50 Mr_Pardison I joined Linux works next gen to see their subway system since they have advanced trains and the sub-mod lua automation enabled but I couldn't see any of the controllers. 14:52 tenplus1 ooh, they've hidden them to be super sneaky :P 14:53 Mr_Pardison that or they used the track where it could be programmed with commands like "B0D10etc" 14:55 tenplus1 if we manage to have a fully functional railway setup then Duncan from Yogscast would visit Mt :) he wouldnt be able to help himself 15:15 Mr_Pardison that would be interesting. 15:16 Mr_Pardison I have read over the lua automation files but I still can't understand how exactly the controller for the tracks work. 15:17 Mr_Pardison If anyone has any idea on how to make an automated system, then that would be a great help. 15:26 tenplus1 wb longer 15:26 longerstaff13 Ty 10+1 15:26 longerstaff13 Should I start calling you eleven? Hehe 15:27 tenplus1 :PP 15:30 tenplus1 hi wayward :p 15:34 tenplus1 hi fussel 15:34 IhrFussel Too many people are not reading the Lua API properly " don't have the time to look into it but if you granted yourself the server privilege you could run /clearobjects quick every few minutes to remove all entities nearby." << DO NOT DO THIS, it will remove all objects from the ENTIRE map the next time the mapblocks are loaded...it says that inside "**" in the doc 15:35 IhrFussel Running it every few minutes will just waste resources, I could imagine that's why many servers lag a lot 15:36 tenplus1 heh 15:37 IhrFussel I will have to reply to the user to prevent people from following that false advise 15:37 IhrFussel advice* 15:38 Mr_Pardison waht a k00bish 15:38 Mr_Pardison s/waht/what 15:39 soupfly It should be called /clearobjects SlowDownTheServerToACrawl 15:41 tenplus1 hi soup 15:42 soupfly Good morning tenplus1 15:42 Mr_Pardison customer: there's a fly in my soup! waiter: I know. the chef used to be a tailor. 15:42 * soupfly sips coffee 15:42 soupfly ya I'm so annoying 15:42 soupfly :) 16:00 tenplus1 hi tumeni 16:00 tumeninodes omg..., that took a while 16:00 tumeninodes :D 16:01 tumeninodes hi tenplus1 16:01 tenplus1 :P 16:01 tumeninodes you're slowing down in your old age 16:01 Mr_Pardison XD 16:01 tenplus1 ehehe, was on Xanadu testing out Second Spawn :D 16:02 tumeninodes and you compiled... busy day 16:02 tenplus1 that took forevver... 16:02 tumeninodes I have yet to go at it myself, I feel your pain 16:02 tenplus1 I posted a quick how to in the 1-line ubuntu guide on forum...:P 16:02 tumeninodes yeh, I was just looking at that 16:04 tumeninodes that would mean a 3rd MT presence on my machine... could get risky..., like incest 16:05 tenplus1 made it run in place for testing... 16:05 tumeninodes I may have a go at it a bit later, I haven't messed anything up in a while, having withdrawls 16:06 tumeninodes I'll bb in a few minutes 16:06 Mr_Pardison lol 16:31 tenplus1 wb 16:40 Krock hi tenplus1 16:40 Krock ninja'd 16:41 Mr_Pardison lol. 16:41 Mr_Pardison the rare occasion when you beat 10+1 to a greeting. 16:41 sofar I just never leave 16:42 Krock sofar, that's the BNC/permanent online computer cheat. the energy bill will greet you instead of me :P 16:42 Krock oh well. Hello Mr_Pardison, sofar 16:43 Krock Mr_Pardison, yeah, they must be currently busy (noms?) to miss the opportunity to beat me in the race again 16:46 tenplus1 hey Krock 16:48 Fixer electricity bill reminds me to buy raspberri pi and hook it up to a tv... 16:49 Krock sadly the bills are way too low in the most cases, otherwise people would be more motivated to reduce the power consumption 16:49 tenplus1 good idea fixer... 3 watt rpi 3 model b would be nice 16:49 Krock PS: RPI takes 3 Watt, after the converter it'll convert at least 4 Watts 16:49 Krock *it'll use at 16:49 tenplus1 converer ? 16:49 Fixer not because of electricity, but it is useful thing to experiment, connect USB HDD to it, various stuff 16:50 Krock AC/DC adapter. 230V/110V AC to 5V DC 16:50 * Mr_Pardison starts playing emission control by AC/DC 16:50 Krock Fixer, and setting up a SSH connection :) 16:50 tenplus1 ohh 16:50 Fixer possibly 16:51 tenplus1 if they would make a 1.8 quad core version I'd be happy 16:52 Fixer en mass* 16:53 * tenplus1 wonders why google feel they need to update YouTube App on android every few days ?!?!?! 16:53 Fixer same question 16:54 Fixer on the other hand I'm using older one with adblocker :} 16:55 tenplus1 ehehe, nice... I'd remove it but sadly it's part of the phone ecosystem (not rooted) and I play vids in Ghostery browser with ads blocked 16:57 Fixer i'm also using firefox for youtube adblocking 16:57 Fixer but it is like 480p only for some reason 16:57 tenplus1 try Ghostery Browser... has built-in adblock and very secure... 16:57 Mr_Pardison I use the ghostery extension for chrome. 17:01 rubenwardy I'm releasing the content DB into beta, there won't be any more database reset 17:01 rubenwardy https://content.minetest.net/ 17:04 tenplus1 hi ruben 17:04 Shara :D 17:04 Fixer nice 17:04 Shara Finally! 17:04 Mr_Pardison aaattt lllaaasssttt..... 17:05 sofar rubenwardy: congrats 17:05 tenplus1 +100 17:18 Krock afterwards there will be a gamma and delta phase 17:18 Krock but without joke - that looks very stylish, lovely. 17:18 tenplus1 :)) 17:19 Mr_Pardison afk lunch 17:20 Krock what currently irritates me is that https://content.minetest.net/packages/ does no longer have the fancy background on top 17:25 tenplus1 wb baker 17:52 xerox123 submitted a PR to capturetheflag :D 18:00 * tenplus1 captures the PR 18:00 rubenwardy the fancy background will be going 18:01 rubenwardy it's just because I needed marks for photo editing 18:07 Krock lol ok I see 18:11 tenplus1 ooh, 12 players at 0.2 lag :) nice 18:16 Krock 240 players and 4s lag 18:16 tenplus1 oof 18:17 Krock proportional calculation.. most likely way different 18:21 tenplus1 hi CWz 18:25 CWz hi tenplus1 18:25 CWz Do lavaflans still remove protector_logos if they die on them? 18:26 tenplus1 hopefully not 18:26 tenplus1 hi twoelk 18:27 twoelk o/ 18:33 tenplus1 wb 18:34 tenplus1 IceWM is a really good window manager :P 18:37 tenplus1 hi aerozoic 18:37 aerozoic hey tenplus1 18:38 aerozoic oh tenplus1 i had an idea the other day... Can visual scale be used to reduce the size of the salt and pepper shakers? 18:38 tenplus1 yes, set to 0.8 to shrink a tad 18:38 tenplus1 are they too big ? 18:38 aerozoic Well yeah, as is they are like 1.5m tall XD 18:39 Fixer wat? 18:39 Mr_Pardison XD 18:40 tenplus1 ?? what version of mt you running ? they are only 1 block high here 18:40 aerozoic oops i mean .5m 18:40 aerozoic just going based on memory, they could be 1m tall 18:41 aerozoic either way, it's quite silly 18:41 tenplus1 heh, just so they can be seen... but I could shrink 18:42 aerozoic I was decorating my house the other day so i put the salt and pepper on the table and was like.. That ain't right! LOL 18:43 tenplus1 lol 18:46 rubenwardy lol, found a race condition! 18:48 aerozoic The Indy 500 is this weekend. 19:20 tenplus1 hi entuland 19:20 tenplus1 wb 19:21 entuland yo 19:25 Calinou my desktop is at around 2 GB after boot or so :P 19:25 Calinou (16 GB of RAM) 19:26 tenplus1 ouch! hi Cal... what are you auto-loading on boot ? 19:27 tenplus1 o/ 19:27 Mr_Pardison \o 19:50 tenplus1 nite folks o/ 20:17 ThomasMonroe hey Calinou I was ONE measly point away from the podium in the U1500 Rapid 20:18 ThomasMonroe https://lichess.org/tournament/4pC3dJ2s 20:18 Calinou hi ThomasMonroe :) 20:18 Calinou I don't have time to play chess these days :'( 20:18 ThomasMonroe D: no chess!?! 20:19 ThomasMonroe how is there life without chess? O_o 20:19 Mr_Pardison well, there's life without wifi.... 20:21 ThomasMonroe b-b-but y-you can play chess on the board xD 20:24 Mr_Pardison and I have a magnetic travel board. 20:24 ThomasMonroe hehe 20:48 Fixer rubenwardy: i see that it features modpacks, that means this needs to go in badly as well https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6898 20:48 rubenwardy that's not needed at all 20:49 rubenwardy everything is installed flat 20:49 rubenwardy so there's no more need for that PR than before 20:49 Fixer flat? what do you mean? 20:49 rubenwardy mods/ only 20:49 rubenwardy no subdirs 20:49 Fixer o_0 20:50 rubenwardy like, mods/awards/init.lua 20:50 Fixer rubenwardy: also, add filters to show installed modpacks only 20:51 Fixer rubenwardy: does not give me progress % on download, also, what happens when DL interrupted? 20:51 Fixer mp_homedecor_modpack 20:51 Fixer hmm 20:53 Fixer rubenwardy: modpacks will still load in a weird way for my worlds 20:54 Fixer spawned in a tree 20:54 Fixer .___________________. 20:55 Fixer technic has some missing images errors 20:55 Fixer eh 20:55 Fixer rubenwardy: i don't see screenshots in content browser in game 20:56 Fixer rubenwardy: uninstalling packages do not uninstalls them 21:09 * Mr_Pardison hugs everyone and gives them a kitten 21:11 Fixer black one with isis logo 21:11 * Fixer files two bugs 21:16 Fixer rubenwardy: does not DL for me https://content.minetest.net/packages/rubenwardy/crafting/download/ 21:16 Fixer from this page https://content.minetest.net/packages/rubenwardy/crafting/ 21:16 rubenwardy works for me 21:16 Fixer other stuff works but this DL is not 21:16 rubenwardy what happens for you? 21:17 Fixer nothing, it just waits forever 21:17 rubenwardy maybe you're banned from github 21:17 rubenwardy \o/ 21:18 xerox123_ Lol 21:18 rubenwardy it redirects to https://github.com/rubenwardy/crafting/archive/4b3a8d68d814bd7aca52427813197ca2262033cd.zip 21:18 Fixer rubenwardy: other downloads work, including from github 21:18 Fixer rubenwardy: https://i.imgur.com/N7xDXZc.png 21:18 rubenwardy ah, it's cached 21:18 rubenwardy odd 21:18 rubenwardy you already have it loaded 21:18 Fixer hmm 21:19 rubenwardy maybe I need to provide a download attribute 21:19 Fixer fuck firefox 21:19 Fixer did cache clean up 21:19 rubenwardy wait, nvm 21:19 rubenwardy heh 21:19 Fixer rubenwardy: cache clean up helped 21:19 rubenwardy oh really? 21:19 Fixer yeah 21:20 Fixer fuck that firefox 21:20 Fixer i have weird problems after revert from 56 to 52ESR 21:20 Fixer I will soon go to waterfox or smth 21:21 Fixer rubenwardy: also, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7370 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7369 22:09 tumeninodes I am sure most have seen this on Creative Commons site, but just in case. If anyone here who has a website would like to add support on their site. A bit down the page is info on how to ad support on your website https://www.battleforthenet.com/