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IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2018-05-19

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02:54 rdococ Hello
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03:01 sofar So far quassel is decent. Even the Android client is done really well imho
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10:05 rubenwardy sofar: the android client is bring rewritten
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11:33 Krock no Mr-Pardison or tenplus1 online
11:33 Krock o/ *
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11:45 rdococ The yays are online.
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11:48 Krock Just some PR testing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zsb09gTwtQ
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12:56 ANAND Interesting PR Krock!
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13:40 nerzhul what is that oO
13:42 Krock nerzhul, the PR to add pitch and roll to entities. It's currently a bit bugged regarding the players
13:48 nerzhul okay :)
13:48 nerzhul gl then
13:59 ANAND I'd be great to see only the torso pivoting back and forth..
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15:35 ircSparky there is a bug in 3d_armor that allows players to swap out an armor item with anything
15:36 ircSparky in my world, you can use this to put on multiple wool boots (which each speed you up)
15:36 ircSparky and you can walso "wear" nodes and items
15:37 ircSparky (I might make a github issue, but i dont really want to rn)
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15:38 IhrFussel ircSparky, look in the mod for "set_attribute" if it#s not there you need to update
15:40 ircSparky what file would that be?
15:41 ircSparky player:set_attribute("3d_armor_inventory", self:serialize_inventory_list(armor_inv:get_list("armor")))
15:43 IhrFussel Then it could be a new bug
15:44 Krock ircSparky, are you using the most recent armor version?
15:45 ircSparky not most recent, but it came up after i updated a few weeks ago (Krock, I think it was you who suggested it)
15:45 ircSparky to update
15:45 Krock update again to make sure
15:46 ircSparky before, you could put anything in armor
15:46 Krock that's what's always to be done when you observe an issue :3
15:46 ircSparky k
15:46 ircSparky yea
15:49 ircSparky yep the bug is present on the lastest
15:49 ircSparky latest
15:49 ircSparky im waring 6 diamond chestplates :P
15:49 ircSparky wearing*
15:50 ircSparky ill make a demo video and a github issue
15:55 Krock ircSparky, are you sure? I can't reproduce it
15:56 Krock maybe there's another mod which modifies/extends 3d_armor?
15:56 rubenwardy you should use  player:get_meta() if your mod is targetting 0.5.0
15:57 Krock doubt anyone is currently modding actively for 0.5.x lol
15:57 * rubenwardy does
15:59 ircSparky https://youtu.be/a_iIViSz7_8
16:01 ircSparky https://github.com/stujones11/minetest-3d_armor/issues/141
16:05 ircSparky Krock, does doing it like i did in the video work for you?
16:10 rubenwardy does managing items and crafts really annoy anyone else?
16:10 rubenwardy like, having to search through long files
16:10 Krock rubenwardy, heh - let's be the first two who made 0.5.0-dev only mods
16:10 rubenwardy write the same thing all over again
16:10 Fixer rubenwardy: yes
16:11 Fixer rubenwardy: in minetest very annoying
16:11 rubenwardy Krock: https://github.com/rubenwardy/crafting
16:11 Krock ircSparky, no, it doesn't
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16:11 rubenwardy thinking this could be helped with  (easy mode) an Atom plugin to show item previews for quick jumping
16:11 Krock the items jump back to where I took them. the detached inventory disallows adding more
16:11 Fixer minetest has few inv managements hot keys, it is painful, mc situation is much better, but still lacks autosorting =}
16:11 rubenwardy or (hard mode) an item relationship manager
16:11 rubenwardy I'm talking about game making / modding, Fixer
16:11 ircSparky huh, weird
16:12 Fixer oh okay, nevermind
16:12 rubenwardy worked on this a bit a few years ago:   https://github.com/rubenwardy/mesecode
16:12 rubenwardy basically a YML-like way of specifying item defs
16:12 rubenwardy syntactic sugar
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16:14 Krock ircSparky, never mind. I didn't notice that you replaced an item to cause this bug
16:15 rubenwardy would be cool to be able to specify crafts with syntax like
16:16 rubenwardy G A X
16:16 rubenwardy where G=default:glass, A=default:apple, X=group:stone
16:16 rubenwardy maybe stress could be adopted (a project by thexyz
16:16 rubenwardy )
16:20 ircSparky ah ok
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18:07 rdococ I do like yays
18:17 IhrFussel Player A has a city and adds player B to it -> player B dies in their area -> player A removes them from their city again and builds something around the bones of player B -> player B can't get to their bones -> player A takes them as soon as they become old ... is that called sabotaging?
18:22 tumeninodes it's called not being very nice. Although not knowing all the bits to the story/drama makes it difficult to judge
18:26 IhrFussel It#s really just that... the added player died, bones were unaccessible...city owner took bones when they got old and now the removed player complains
18:30 tumeninodes well, "got old" today (especially for kids) means about 10 minutes so... still hard to judge. I guess it comes down to how in between player B dying did player A remove them, then build around bones
18:30 tumeninodes *how long in between
18:31 tumeninodes if all these events happened with about 10-20 min to an hour etc... then player A is a jerk :P. If it was months or even w few weeks, player B needs to move on
18:32 tumeninodes if that doesn't work..., just kill them all :D
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19:28 IhrFussel tumeninodes, it happened within minutes ... player A definitely knew that the bones were still fresh and built around them on purpose
19:32 Fixer IhrFussel: affected player should spam around about that city, making other players know about this shit-behaviour
19:32 Fixer IhrFussel: or create and build a small city just near that city with just a big fallitic object and a sign saying why you should not join that town
19:33 tumeninodes hahaha
19:35 IhrFussel Player A seems to be a "black sheep" in general on my server...secretly tries to find all sorts of exploits/bugs to abuse
19:36 tumeninodes Down with player A
19:36 tumeninodes remove them and give said city to player B
19:39 IhrFussel I mean he reports those to me but only *after* he already took advantage of it
19:40 IhrFussel Not sure if I should still be thankful then
19:41 tumeninodes well, if this is a "helpful player, then attempt to talk them into doing something to make amends for player B. If not, find a new helper
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21:19 Fixer i'm exploring old nerd.nu minecraft worlds from 2011-2012, it looks just like minetest today, aka golden days but in 2018
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22:09 rubenwardy new user complains to me that MT has too many settings Xd
22:10 tumeninodes 0_0
22:12 Fixer minecraft has a lot of settings too
22:12 Fixer also, he does not really need to change any settigns
22:12 Fixer defaults are pretty good
22:13 tumeninodes Why do I feel they may have misstated what they were trying to say
22:13 Fixer i wonder if current hardware people have justifies shaders enabled
22:13 Fixer or it is just me on """vintage""" sandy bridge + actual vintage GPU
22:13 Fixer nah
22:13 Fixer 2005 is not vintage
22:13 Fixer also, offtopic
22:14 tumeninodes 2017 - vintage
22:14 Fixer someone actually called Sandy Bridge = vintage (with a straight face, I was amazed)
22:15 Fixer probably one of those forums with people with i7+1080 as a minimum for playability
22:15 tumeninodes MT settings are not presented the way MC settings are. no sliders
22:16 tumeninodes i7 series will soon be "vintage" too :P
22:18 tumeninodes hardware/software aging/obsolescence is ever increasing
22:59 Fixer decades old software still perfectly usable
22:59 Fixer decade old PC is too, if you have enough RAM though, SSD is recommended too
22:59 Fixer no need to upgrade often anymore, 5-10 years is nice bet, same for phones
23:00 Fixer they have same problem as PC, matured and saturated market
23:00 tumeninodes ... and a gullible customer base
23:01 Fixer customers don't upgrade often anymore
23:03 Fixer based on some articles I've seen, even in rich world, maybe those people on contructs, dunno
23:06 Fixer also tablet hype is dead
23:06 Fixer ,
23:06 Fixer ./end of rant
23:06 tumeninodes I wish MTG on Android would just die off
23:07 Fixer why?
23:08 tumeninodes because it would wipe a good chunk of "issues" off the table
23:16 Fixer is = has
23:33 paramat you mean MT on android?
23:35 paramat official app or forked ones?
23:36 paramat (my mobile phone is now 10 years old)
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23:58 sofar So many weeds...ugh
23:58 tumeninodes I just said that because I can't use MTG on Android (on a phone) because I'm old

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