Time  Nick            Message
02:35 ANAND           My new mod: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=20089
02:35 ANAND           For server-side moderation purposes :)
02:40 ANAND           afk
09:29 nerzhul         hello people !
09:36 ANAND           Greetings nerzhul!
09:42 Fixer           hi
09:42 Fixer           it is unusual to see nerzhul here
09:57 nerzhul         Fixer no :p just these days i got some problems IRL and my dedicated motherboard crashed
10:16 ANAND           Quick question: can I define a function without any return type / without assigning it to another variable?
10:26 shivajiva       yes the return would just be nil if the function was assigned to a variable in subsequent code but it will still execute the function
10:27 shivajiva       assuming we are talking about lua
10:27 ANAND           yes it's lua
10:28 ANAND           so I define it like so? --> function(param)
10:28 ANAND           how do I call it then?
10:29 shivajiva       I use 'dumb' functions regularly when I have no need for a return value....call it something, function foo(bar)
10:29 Tenplus1        hi folks
10:29 shivajiva       Hi tenplus
10:29 ANAND           Hey Tenplus1!
10:29 Tenplus1        hi Shiva :) hey Anand
10:30 ANAND           :)
10:30 Tenplus1        did you see the new ad for linux laptops from system76 yet ?
10:30 ANAND           What's up with those ads?
10:32 Tenplus1        was so funny... "vanilla latte" ahaha
10:35 ANAND           afk brb
10:35 shivajiva       ANAND: suggest you look at other peoples mods for examples as every conceivable method has been utilised at some point ;)
10:36 Tenplus1        lol shiva, a preverbial "Simpsons did it!!!!"
10:36 shivajiva       lol :)
10:43 ANAND           shivajiva, I did look at a handful, but couldn't really see a void function being defined... :/
10:44 Tenplus1        what you trying to do Anand ?
10:47 ANAND           Tenpls1 - a simple convenience function that takes a player object and an arbitrary string, which adds a "-!- <modname> : " before the string, and finally calls minetest.chat_send_player
10:47 ANAND           Tenplus1 *
10:48 shivajiva       he answers to 11 also xD
10:49 Tenplus1        lol
10:49 ANAND           :P
11:09 Tenplus1        wow, first vegan mod in minetest: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=20001
11:10 ANAND           yay! ;)
11:11 Tenplus1        ??? the author has 2 different .lua's for default farming and farming redo... ?!?!  farming redo already handles default farming crop functions
11:15 Tenplus1        wb Gael-de-Sailly
11:19 shivajiva       and then I read Support for Fishing (Sushi)...didn't realise fish were on a vegans menu lol
11:19 Tenplus1        yeah was wondering about that myself
11:20 Tenplus1        the mod is very handy, but it makes my spidey senses tingle reading it
11:20 Tenplus1        they have registered aliases like: minetest.register_alias("lettuce:lettuce_2", "cucina_vegana:lettuce_2")  and I'm wondering why
11:24 Tenplus1        cucina_vegana:imitation_fish <--
11:24 Tenplus1        they have fake meat, fish, butter, cheese :) so vegan all the way
11:43 Tenplus1        o/ sniper
11:50 shivajiva       so vegan fake fish are swimming and you catch them?
11:51 Tenplus1        ehehe, they are all tofu mixed with herbs to make fake meat or fish
11:51 shivajiva       cool
11:53 shivajiva       tofu is nice on toast if it's fried in spices and chilli
11:53 Tenplus1        mmm, nice...
11:55 shivajiva       coriander, cumin, turmeric, asafoeteda and chillies ;)
11:55 Tenplus1        if done properly a Farming Additions mod could be made with all these new foods and recipes
11:56 Tenplus1        many servers would add that
12:07 shivajiva       lol
12:07 Tenplus1        :P
12:21 Tenplus1        hi evergreen
12:25 Tenplus1        o/ aerozoic
12:28 aerozoic        waup Tenplus1!
12:28 Tenplus1        :) making noms for lunch
12:32 Mr_Pardison     \o Tenplus1
12:32 Mr_Pardison     sup?
12:33 Tenplus1        hi mister...   pre-heating oven :D
12:33 Mr_Pardison     baking?
12:33 Tenplus1        making lunch...  chicken and mushroom in white sauce and roast potatoes
12:33 Mr_Pardison     sounds amazing.
12:34 Tenplus1        so long as I dont burn anything :DDDDD
12:34 Mr_Pardison     yup.
13:09 IhrFussel       If a player falls from a high cliff is the velocity still present in on_hpchange()? I guess not but maybe there's a chance
13:13 Tenplus1        hi fussel
13:40 IhrFussel       Hi Tenplus1^^
13:41 Tenplus1        easy thing is to register an on_hpchange and print player velocity when you fall
13:45 Tenplus1        :) that's why I have a test mod
13:46 Tenplus1        wb evergreen
14:00 Tenplus1        IhrFussel: minetest.register_on_player_hpchange(function(player, hp_change) local name = player:get_player_name() ; local vel = player:get_player_velocity() ; print (name .. "'s velocity is " .. vel.y) end)
14:11 IhrFussel       Tenplus1, it seems to still work in the callback!
14:11 Tenplus1        :P
14:12 IhrFussel       That's great, now I can increase fall damage at a certain speed
14:13 Tenplus1        once the hp_change reasons are more widely used on 0.5 release it'll bring about many mod changes :D
14:18 VanessaE        Fixer: there.  happy now? ;)   https://github.com/VanessaE/dreambuilder_modpack/commit/af2fedcf9998bb4a854c2cfd63e4cdad91a6dd5d
14:18 Tenplus1        hi Vanessa
14:18 VanessaE        hi
14:24 Tenplus1        hi CWz
14:25 CWz             ello
14:25 Tenplus1        :P
14:26 IhrFussel       "if vel.y < -29 and hp_change < 0 then hp_change = math.floor(hp_change * 2) end" << should work (-29 seems to be ~ 10 nodes falling)
14:30 Tenplus1        http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.register_on_hpchange
14:33 Tenplus1        brb
14:38 Mr_Pardison     hopping around like a rabbit isn't conducive to being happy all the time.
14:38 longerstaff13-m hi
14:38 Mr-Pardison     cello longerstaff13-m
14:39 longerstaff13-m I am on my tablet using my phone's IRCCloud account XD
14:51 Mr-Pardison     sounds like a challenge to type.
15:24 IhrFussel       Is it possible to simply colorize water by adding a texture modifier?
15:25 IhrFussel       I'm guessing it doesn't work for animated nodes which water is
15:38 Raven262        Why not?
15:39 Raven262        It is also one texture as the others are.
15:39 Raven262        It does work IIRC, I experimented with making differently coloured water sources.
15:47 rdococ          > RecentJuvenileAtom
15:47 ANAND           Hello, what exactly is the second param of minetest.set_node(pos, node)?
15:47 rdococ          oh repl.it, how you make me laugh
15:50 IhrFussel       ANAND, do you mean "node"? A table with the node definition
15:50 Mr-Pardison     rdococ: the horror of using it.
15:50 IhrFussel       Or wait...
15:50 ANAND           IhrFussel, I get an error saying "Node name not set or is not a string" when I use minetest.set_node(pos, "default:dirt")
15:51 rdococ          Mr-Pardison: the horror of using IE and Windows is infinite compared to that of using repl.itâ„¢
15:51 IhrFussel       ANAND, one sec
15:51 Mr-Pardison     very tru
15:51 ANAND           ok
15:52 Raven262        ANAND, Its a table, so you use name = default:dirt
15:52 IhrFussel       ANAND, try {name="default:dirt"}
15:52 Raven262        Its a nice feature, you can set param2 for the new node too.
15:53 ANAND           Cool, I'll try it out right away
15:54 IhrFussel       ANAND, if you don't need to run any callbacks on the node use minetest.swap_node() instead, it's faster (but it doesn't matter if you only set 1 node at a time)
15:54 ANAND           IhrFussel, just one node at a time
15:54 ANAND           but I'll look into swap_node() too
15:55 IhrFussel       swap_node() also doesn't clear the meta
15:55 ANAND           oh
15:56 IhrFussel       So if you swap a chest with an air node you'll get an air node with meta
15:57 ANAND           Doesn't matter to me since the original node will be restored after the mod finishes its work
15:58 ANAND           So shall I proceed with swap_node()?
15:59 ANAND           afk for a bit
15:59 IhrFussel       Does the node you want to replace and the replacement node have callbacks? Or meta? If neither then swap_node
16:00 ANAND           no none
16:00 ANAND           So swap_node() it is, thanks!
16:00 ANAND           I'll let you know if {name = "<node_name>"} works
16:01 IhrFussel       It does work, I use it in some of my code too
16:06 Krock           o/
16:07 Mr-Pardison     \o Krock
16:31 Megaf           wb Mr_Pardison
16:31 Mr_Pardison     gracias, Megaf
17:00 rdococ          The Krock is yay
17:09 xerox123        what's a good way of lighting up a large room? http://0x0.st/sjEN.png
17:10 Krock           invisible light sources instead of air
17:10 xerox123        ruben's CTF doesn't allow meta data in nodes afaik
17:11 Krock           light sources don't depend on meta directly
17:11 Krock           it's a special type of node
17:11 rdococ          xerox123: interesting map
17:11 xerox123        rdococ: can'tsee it in the image but there's a floor above
17:11 rdococ          another map that could be fun would be a hedge maze
17:11 Krock           well, it could be possible to cheat sunlight using Lua/FFI
17:11 rdococ          xerox123: ooh, very interesting map
17:12 rdococ          Krock: or special nodes that propagate sunlight
17:12 rdococ          unless that's what you meant
17:12 xerox123        the middle will have escalators instead of that mese lamp thingy
17:12 rdococ          eskallators
17:12 Krock           rdococ, nodes can't propagate sunlight anymore. it's limited
17:13 Mr_Pardison     xerox123: do you have ghost crystal there?
17:13 xerox123        no
17:14 Mr_Pardison     well, that can be used as a lighting source below floors and keep the lights hidden from view.
17:14 rdococ          Krock: why is that?
17:14 xerox123        let me try meselamp under some node
17:15 xerox123        does nothing
17:15 Fixer           VanessaE: nice, thank you!
17:15 Mr_Pardison     hmmm.....
17:16 VanessaE        :)
17:16 Krock           rdococ, it caused some lightning issues AFAIK
17:16 Krock           i.e. the sunlight spreading finder bugged out
17:18 xerox123        obv the lighting isn't an issue for the top floor
17:20 Mr_Pardison     xerox123: are you trying to hide the light sources or are they going to be out in the open?
17:20 xerox123        either is OK I guess, as logn as it doesn't look bad
17:21 Fixer           rdococ: that is the worst screenshot I ever seen
17:22 Fixer           rdococ: google minecraft lighting a room, there are toons of creative ways how to light a room
17:23 Fixer           especially after minetest switched from Minecraft Beta (tm)(r) light intensity to modern Minecraft (tm)(r) system
17:24 Fixer           minecraft beta is notoriously dark (same as minetest prior to change), but its nice are awesome and dangerous, in new MC nights are not really that dark
17:24 Fixer           i'm fine with current minetest nights
17:24 Fixer           MTG just needs more slave labour to fix and develop the thing
17:25 VanessaE        Fixer: oh, inb4 "btw 30008 isn't announcing" :P
17:25 Fixer           VanessaE: yes
17:26 Fixer           VanessaE: here is my list of announced servers https://i.imgur.com/Vbeta4E.png
17:27 Fixer           rdococ: give me world edit copy of that building and I will try playing with lighting
17:27 Fixer           nice, apples finally grow on trees
17:27 Fixer           was waiting for this for 7 years or so
17:29 Fixer           "but its nice" = "but its nights"
17:31 Fixer           that english is horrible, I know
17:44 IhrFussel       xerox123, use hidden_light from Shara's mod "abriglass"
17:44 xerox123        it's a map I'm making for ruben's server, I'm not sure if he'll install that
17:45 rubenwardy      I've delegated map reviewing to Gael-de-Sailly and ANAND
17:45 rubenwardy      :D
17:45 IhrFussel       It's literally an invisible light node
17:46 Shara           which may not be a great thing to have on a CTF map
17:46 rubenwardy      I'd rather light sources be visible
17:46 Shara           hidden light was really created for creative builds
17:46 Shara           also no reason not to have dark areas on CTF
17:47 Shara           Let players sneak around or light it themselves
17:47 xerox123        uless I have the two 'sections' adjacent side-by-side
17:54 IhrFussel       I used hidden light for this https://i.imgur.com/DQGF0re.png
17:55 IhrFussel       It's perfect to make projects "glow" at night
17:56 Shara           It was originally made to make church windows glow
17:57 Shara           The stained glass they used wasn't a light source and they couldn't find a good way to light them up
17:57 rubenwardy      package DB roadmap: https://i.rubenwardy.com/GA3vT.png
17:58 rubenwardy      Today I added the ability to import metadata from Github
17:58 rubenwardy      and also make releases from Github
18:01 rubenwardy      in a few weeks I'll put it into beta
18:01 rubenwardy      I'll need volunteers to try and break it
18:01 rubenwardy      and add mods
18:03 Mr_Pardison     IhrFussel: globe of the earth I presume and it looks amazing.
18:04 IhrFussel       Mr_Pardison, yup but not built by me "beldin"
18:04 xerox123        but I thought earth was flat /s
18:04 IhrFussel       He's also working on an Eiffel Tower next to it
18:04 Mr_Pardison     wow.
18:08 IhrFussel       The globe took him ~ 2 weeks (no WE involved)
18:20 IhrFussel       Mr_Pardison, here is the tower (maybe a little small xP) https://i.imgur.com/jy2tfY0.png
18:20 Mr_Pardison     still amazing.
18:20 Mr_Pardison     could make a whole park out of that.
18:22 Mr_Pardison     just from different architectural things from around the globe.
18:26 Fixer           IhrFussel: nice globe
18:32 longerstaff13   o/ rubenwardy
18:43 ANAND           IhrFussel, I'll stick to set_node(), since swap_node() doesn't offer any significant performance boosts anyway
18:46 IhrFussel       ANAND, it does if you set lots of nodes (> 50)
18:47 IhrFussel       With just 1 node the difference will be less than 1 µs probably
18:47 ANAND           IhrFussel, I just need to set 2-3 nodes at a time :)
18:47 IhrFussel       It also depends on the amount of callbacks/meta
18:53 IhrFussel       ANAND, will benchmark the two now
18:56 IhrFussel       ANAND, set_node() with 50 nodes: 9ms, swap_node(): 3ms
19:00 IhrFussel       I replaced air with dirt, so I expect swap_node() to be even faster when the affected nodes have callbacks/meta
19:24 IhrFussel       I can only upload an image as attachment that is then downloaded? No way to directly display it in my post?
19:26 IhrFussel       The only way seems to be uploading to some image hoster and link via [img]
19:26 Krock           right click on the attachment link and paste it into the img tags. works for me.
19:29 IhrFussel       Didn't think of right-clicking the attachment link
19:31 Krock           another step closer to understanding the meaning of life, universe and everything
19:32 IhrFussel       Is it safe to leave the sid in the URL?
19:34 Krock           I tend to remove it. Nobody keeps important user data in the URL
19:35 Krock           still some websites do it.. like a remote garage opener/closing website, which will open and close the garage for you in the night due to Cloud syncs
19:36 Krock           too bad .. I didn't bookmark that twitter screenshot
19:36 IhrFussel       Krock, I watched a video recently about "hacking" a website by manipulating URL parameters...for example some stupid web shops leave the price in the address and one can easily edit it to be 0,00 and submit
19:59 lisac_          for a moment I was wondering what ANAND means
19:59 lisac_          then I figured it's a person
20:00 Krock           lisac, it's obviously A NAND gate
20:01 Krock           or is it AN AND gate? uhm
20:03 lisac           Another New A-person N-making D-mods?
20:03 lisac           sorry, got out of ideas half way through
20:03 Krock           yes
20:04 Mr-Pardison     g2g I will c y'all on or b4 Monday.
20:04 lisac           I'm happy the community is still getting new members
20:14 Fixer           missed by 10 seconds
20:16 xerox123        https://youtu.be/rQEqKZ7CJlk
20:16 sofar           *golfclap*
20:16 xerox123        ok everyone started clapping
20:18 sofar           that's a launch party for you
20:18 sofar           I've been to one
20:19 sofar           was sitting right next to 2 people who flew on the space shuttle as well
20:19 xerox123        ooooh, interesting
20:21 xerox123        to compare, Ive been on one of these :D http://0x0.st/sj6v.png
20:51 IhrFussel       There are chests in MT where each user has their own inventory?
20:51 IhrFussel       Isn't that lots of metadata to store then? And how would the admin check the contents?
21:11 aerozoic        IhrFussel, sounds like you're talking about ender chests.
21:13 IhrFussel       aerozoic, I guess... but there is no (easy) way to check all contents as admin correct?
21:14 aerozoic        the way the ender chest works from xdecor is that it simply extends the player's current inventory file.
21:14 aerozoic        So the player's inventory file has it's normal inventory slots plus the slots that the chest creates.
21:16 aerozoic        Checking the inventory file just depends on the player backend that is used.
21:16 IhrFussel       Wait...each ender chest extends the player inventory??? Or is there only 1 extra inventory list that all chests share?
21:16 aerozoic        It extends each player's inventory.
21:17 IhrFussel       Yes but only once per player? Like what if a player has 10 ender chests
21:17 sofar           which is saved in the player data, not the map
21:17 sofar           so it's only ever 1 chest
21:17 sofar           all the ender chests share the same content
21:17 aerozoic        No matter how many ender chests they have, it will always access the same extended inventory.
21:20 IhrFussel       So...it's essentially another alternative to bags...just with the added bonus that other players can put stuff into it
21:21 aerozoic        yep
21:21 aerozoic        each player can only see what they themselves put in it.