Time  Nick          Message
00:10 Fixer         i get different results
00:11 Fixer         mt may be faster in some aspects, but in heavy scenes it just suuuuuuucks
01:18 Mr_Pardison   'ello Jordach
01:18 Jordach       beep
01:18 Jordach       i am now 22
01:18 Sokomine      congratulations :-)
01:19 Jordach       pff
01:19 Mr_Pardison   twice tenplus1 :P
01:19 * Sokomine    wants some of jordachs cake
01:19 Jordach       best i have is a choc bar
01:20 Mr_Pardison   and I was about to say "and what if they don't have cake?"
01:20 Sokomine      doesn't sound too promising. but then...most mt food isn't too exciting either :-) could be worse after all...
01:20 Sokomine      simple: he's required of providing cake :-)
01:39 * Jordach     meows at EvergreenTree
01:44 Mr_Pardison   g2g cya
07:38 tenplus1      hi folks
07:46 lumberJ       hello tenplus1
07:47 tenplus1      hi lumberJ :P
08:17 tenplus1      hi red
08:23 tenplus1      wb
08:27 lumberJ       thanks
08:36 tenplus1      hey Jordach
09:36 tenplus1      hi CWz
09:36 CWz           Ello
09:36 tenplus1      :P
09:43 tenplus1      hi red
10:23 tenplus1      hi nerzhul
11:10 tenplus1      o/
12:37 tenplus1      hi mister
12:37 tenplus1      Farming Redo updated to 1.36 - Added Beetroot and Beetroot Soup
12:37 Mr_Pardison   hai
12:38 * Mr_Pardison takes some rhubarb and strawberry and makes a compote from it
12:38 tenplus1      yumm
12:38 tenplus1      textures are a tad iffy, wasnt in the mood for gimp today it seems :D
12:39 Mr_Pardison   well, those can always be updated later.
12:39 tenplus1      yeah... will add lettuce when I can be assed :P
12:39 tenplus1      then we can make BLT sammiches
12:39 Mr_Pardison   where the B stands for bunny? :P
12:39 tenplus1      lol, we have hogs remember :) bacon for the wins
12:40 Mr_Pardison   ik but it's a use for them.
12:40 tenplus1      true :) need a few rabbit food items
13:21 tenplus1      o/ aerozoic, DI3HARD139, sniper338
13:22 DI3HARD139    Hello tenplus1
13:22 aerozoic      wazup tenplus1
13:23 tenplus1      on Xanadu hosting Lucky Blocks :)
13:23 sniper338     tenplus1 \o
13:24 Mr-Pardison   aw.
13:24 Mr-Pardison   to bad I have to take care of a thing on DL.
13:24 Mr-Pardison   *too
13:25 tenplus1      ehehe
13:25 tenplus1      gonna update later tonight hopefully and add new farming items and mod fixes
13:27 aerozoic      cool
13:50 tenplus1      wb CWz
14:03 * Jordach     is now tenplus1tenplus1
14:06 Mr-Pardison   XD
14:07 tenplus1      wb 1111
14:07 tenplus1      :P
14:10 Jordach       kek
14:38 tenplus1      o/
14:58 rdococ        Helloyays
14:59 rdococ        I have been learning about ergative-absolutive alignment in my spare time
14:59 Mr-Pardison   and I've been writing a paper on string theory.
15:00 rdococ        huh, my sarcasmometer won't turn on
15:01 rdococ        suddenly I'm not sure if that's sarcasm even though I know it should... might be
15:01 Mr-Pardison   no I have been.
15:01 rdococ        weird, will find someone that will do repairs on my sarcasmometer
15:01 Mr-Pardison   as an assignment for a class.
15:01 rdococ        can you learn about sarcasmometers so you can fix mine? :P
15:01 Mr-Pardison   rdococ: hit it with a hammer (or a pipe wrench, either will do).
15:02 rdococ        Mr-Pardison: ah, thank you
15:03 * rdococ      hits his sarcasmometer with a hammer, and it sparks before turning into a mutatometer that measures sudden metamorphosis of scientific instruments into other scientific instruments (e.g. sarcasmometer -> mutatometer)
15:04 * rdococ      hits it again, and it becomes a physics-breaking battery with infinite lifespan
15:04 * rdococ      uses it to generate infinite power
15:09 * Jordach     is enjoying the salt over from DiamondKnight trying to push closed source mods onto MT
15:10 Mr-Pardison   link?
15:10 * Mr-Pardison would also like to see this foolishness
15:11 rdococ        how would you even hide the source?
15:11 rdococ        Lua is basically interpreted (well, it could be compiled into .luac intermediate bytecode I guess)
15:12 rdococ        which would mean that you need the lua code to run the mod in the first place
15:13 rdococ        oh my goodness
15:13 rdococ        I found it -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=11901
15:14 tenplus1      hi rdococ
15:14 * tenplus1    was ordering in dinner :D
15:14 rdococ        there's no source code o_O
15:15 rdococ        a game in Minetest that doesn't even have source code... you can't even run it then
15:15 rdococ        ohh, I get it
15:16 * Mr-Pardison is a bit confuzzled
15:16 Mr-Pardison   explain por favor, senor.
15:17 rdococ        Mr-Pardison: he hid the source code from the github repository, so that you can only get the mod from the releases tab. it does nothing because you can unzip it and get the lua code that way.
15:17 Mr-Pardison   ah.
15:17 tenplus1      :PP
15:17 Mr-Pardison   they r an even bigger fool than IO originally thought.
15:17 Mr-Pardison   s/IO/I
15:18 rdococ        I think, anyway. didn't want to wait for the zipped release to download.
15:18 rdococ        downloading mods seems to be so much quicker when I do it from the terminal.
15:20 tenplus1      > wget https://github.com/tenplus1/farming/archive/master.zip
15:20 rdococ        nah, > git clone https://github.com/tenplus1/farming
15:20 tenplus1      lol
15:21 tenplus1      added beetroot btw
15:21 rdococ        that way I can just "git pull" to update
15:23 tenplus1      https://memestatic.fjcdn.com/pictures/Beep+beep_fb1461_6593559.jpg
15:23 rdococ        Beeptroot
15:24 tenplus1      will add lettuce when my lazy ass does the textures :D
15:24 rdococ        delicious
15:25 rdococ        tenplus1: what size are the item textures?
15:25 tenplus1      16x16
15:26 rdococ        Minetest needs smooth interpolation of item textures asap, I cannot deal with the weird pixel artifacts
15:26 tenplus1      the one's I make are usually just stand-in's until something better comes along
15:26 rdococ        that is one very high-res cookie
15:26 rdococ        okay, maybe just slightly higher-res
15:27 tenplus1      lol
15:27 tenplus1      things like corn growing is 32x32 for 2 high effect with 1 node :D
15:30 rdococ        I downscaled a picture I found online and added an outline
15:30 tenplus1      for what ?
15:30 rdococ        for lettuce!
15:31 tenplus1      lol, need growing textures also :D
15:31 Mr-Pardison   lettuce rejoice, for rdococ has found tenplus1 a tecture!
15:31 tenplus1      and a food item to make with it
15:31 Mr-Pardison   *texture
15:31 Mr-Pardison   BLT!
15:32 tenplus1      yay, if mobs_redo then add blt item
15:32 Mr-Pardison   purrrfect.
15:33 rdococ        I had a concept for glowing pink crystals that plants could grow around
15:33 rdococ        The idea is that since plants absorb red and blue light the most, they would grow around the pink crystals that are producing red + blue light
15:34 tenplus1      ooh
15:35 rdococ        You can grow lettuce, tomato and wheat around it, and then get a cow farm, and you can make BLTs underground!
15:35 rdococ        (although I think plants already grow in torch light already, I guess)
15:35 tenplus1      13 and over
15:35 Mr-Pardison   personally, if ethereal is there, then I'd use glostones since I can make a lot of them.
15:36 tenplus1      I think glostone is 12
15:36 tenplus1      cant remember now:P
15:36 rdococ        I would like to see acid blocks that only dissolve certain blocks
15:36 Mr-Pardison   solution: acidic corium.
15:37 tenplus1      we did have {melt=1} groups ... why notv{dissolve=1} and {acid_melt=1}
15:37 rdococ        e.g. nitric acid or "aqua fortis" would dissolve copper and silver (if it exists)
15:37 Mr-Pardison   it's already dangerous so why not increase the danger level?
15:37 rdococ        Mr-Pardison: acidic corium lava
15:37 Mr-Pardison   YAY!
15:38 * Mr-Pardison shall now drown/roast/liquefy his enemies with acidic corium lava
15:38 * rdococ      builds a power generator that uses corium, so that he can get energy from Chernobyl
15:39 tenplus1      lol
15:39 tenplus1      bbl, watching infinity war with noms :P
15:40 Mr-Pardison   you would think rdococ would use yays as the power source....
15:40 * rdococ      pours the acidic corium lava into the generator, causing it to break, before exploding into colorful yays which he then uses as the real power sourcw
15:40 rdococ        s/sourcw/source/
15:41 rdococ        Mr-Pardison: Yays would be able to emit an infinite amount of energy at infinite speed
15:41 rdococ        Add one to your technic network, and either you no longer need to worry about energy usage or say bye to all of your machines and hello to tons of yaycorium
15:41 Mr-Pardison   questions is, could they prove the existence of strings, thereby validating string theory?
15:42 rdococ        Yay blobs know if string theory is true or not
15:42 rdococ        Unfortunately, they cannot tell us because they only say yay
15:42 rdococ        They have also found a proof/disproof for the Goldbach conjecture, but they can't tell us which one it is
15:52 rdococ        odile
15:52 Mr-Pardison   cirkey, if it isn't Krock!
15:53 Krock         You expected Krock but it's actually Dio da!
15:53 rdococ        Krock disguised as Dio da!
16:18 xerox123      \o/
16:19 Mr-Pardison   /o\
16:19 xerox123      everyone doing OK today?
16:19 xerox123      :D
16:20 Krock         uh well. could be better. learning like all time time for stuff you'll never need
16:20 Mr-Pardison   I'm happy with myself right now since I finished my paper.
16:20 Mr-Pardison   Now I can get to teaching myself how to make an automated subway system using advanced trains.
16:22 Krock         priorities.
16:23 Mr-Pardison   I finished my paper so I am now playing games under the guise of teaching myself something important for LagWorld (would like to have a subway that runs on its own there).
16:28 rubenwardy    rdococ: hje
16:28 rubenwardy    rdococ: he's just a complete idiot
16:32 Krock         rubenwardy, hello, on Friday I've pushed a commit to #7214 to 1) unify the docs notation and 2) return nil for contains() - are you ok with these changes? If so, we can finally merge it
16:32 ShadowBot     https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7214 -- MetaDataRef: Add contains() and get() by rubenwardy
16:32 rubenwardy    yes
16:32 Krock         good, thanks :)
17:00 rubenwardy    nice
17:53 IhrFussel     My hand is gone in 0.4.17 ... bug still exists?
17:53 IhrFussel     No wait...ok that's weird
17:54 IhrFussel     The hand disappears when holding certain items?
17:55 IhrFussel     In this case I hold hidden_light from abriglass mod ... I wonder which property of it makes the hand disappear
18:05 Shara         Because it has no texture
18:05 Shara         And when you hold something you see its texture, not the hand texture
18:07 Mr-Pardison   'ello Shara
18:17 paramat       lol good point
18:19 aerozoic      what determines the angle of the texture of the item being held? I notice some things are at different angles.
18:22 aerozoic      oh nvm, some textures are themselves angled.
18:41 ircSparky     how much of a load does droppped items put on the server?
18:42 Jordach       are they loaded or not
18:42 ircSparky     would be nice to know both
18:43 ircSparky     how heavy is a uploaded dropped item, and how heavy is a loaded dropped item. and i guess how hard it is to load a lot of them?
19:04 tenplus1      hi peeps
19:05 tenplus1      hi benrob
19:05 benrob0329    hi tenplus1
19:06 Mr_Pardison   ahoy 11
19:06 tenplus1      hi mister :P
19:07 tenplus1      Regrow mod updated, will regrow default apples and ethereal oranges, banana and coconuts on tree's :)
19:07 * benrob0329  feels like he should plan another cinematic sometime soon
19:07 benrob0329    or do something else MT-related
19:07 tenplus1      Benrob presents... The World of Dirt
19:08 * benrob0329  admits to not playing MT very often anymore
19:08 tenplus1      aww, you should :) it's fun
19:09 benrob0329    I think my problem is the time investment, I'm not much of a builder and I've already played the MTG survival rout to its end many times
19:09 benrob0329    er, thats not really time i suppose..
19:09 tenplus1      good point, we need something to work towards, an adventure game of sorts
19:10 Krock         benrob0329, Minetest The Movie 2018
19:10 tenplus1      or a progression curve until the player becomed god
19:10 Krock         hi tenplus1
19:10 tenplus1      hey Krock :)
19:10 tenplus1      https://github.com/tenplus1/regrow
19:10 Krock         quicker this time :)
19:10 tenplus1      ehe
19:11 Krock         readme.MD - what I see is a doctor there
19:11 tenplus1      doctor ?
19:11 rubenwardy    MD is a docter title
19:11 rubenwardy    also, md not MD
19:11 tenplus1      lol, Dr. Readme... gotcha
19:11 Krock         Doctor of Medicine
19:11 Krock         derived from the latin words: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Medicine
19:12 benrob0329    Correction to previous statement: I don't want to invest the time when I have already played the MTG survival rout several times over
19:12 rubenwardy    there's other games than Minetest Game
19:12 benrob0329    not many that are good/finished
19:12 tenplus1      hi ruben
19:12 benrob0329    MC2 is the most complete atm to my knowledge
19:14 Krock         minimal. heh :P
19:14 benrob0329    InsideTheBox is fun, when one is in the mood for puzzles
19:14 benrob0329    and doesn't want collaborative multiplayer
19:15 rubenwardy    ITB is a singleplayer game masquerading as a multiplayer one
19:15 benrob0329    its a community built singleplayer game
19:15 Krock         a singleplayer game with chat partners
19:16 Krock         and an official ladder
19:16 benrob0329    which is fun and good, just not what I want to play most of the time
19:20 * Fixer       check if p-ramat is AFK and shouts: MMTGGA
19:23 Fixer         official ladder?
19:23 benrob0329    Yes, its the wood one over there
19:23 tenplus1      lol, progression ladder ?
19:26 * xerox123    continues working on his 18.04 VM
19:26 xerox123      trying to make it look all pretty :D
19:26 tenplus1      hi xerox :)  how's it running ?
19:26 xerox123      all good
19:26 ircSparky     are there plans (or existing methods) for getting any key press?
19:27 xerox123      can't figure out how to install guestadditions
19:27 ircSparky     z,x, or c for crouching or prone (at least i hear it will be possible)
19:27 ircSparky     changing player collision that is
19:27 tenplus1      should be a  menu option for mount guest additions if installed
19:29 xerox123      yeah, but it doesnt automatically run the script, and I don't know which to run
19:30 tenplus1      https://askubuntu.com/questions/3205/higher-screen-resolution-in-virtualbox
19:34 rdococ        hi
19:34 tenplus1      o/
19:34 Mr_Pardison   \o/
19:34 xerox123      trying to also get the top xfce4 panel to move to the bottom
19:34 xerox123      oh, did it
19:34 tenplus1      :P
19:36 rdococ        xeroxyaysâ„¢
19:38 xerox123      to yay or to yay, there is no questionâ„¢
19:39 rdococ        lol
19:54 rdococ        The Mr-Pardison is yayâ„¢
20:04 Fixer         official ladder = rubenwardy awards
20:04 Mr-Pardison   g2g cya
20:04 Fixer         maybe reworked
20:13 IhrFussel     ircSparky, that will be difficult since many remap their controls
20:14 IhrFussel     It would have to be something like now "controls.sneak", "controls.up" etc
20:14 ircSparky     tenplus1, https://github.com/tenplus1/mobs_redo/pull/163
20:17 tenplus1      thx sparky :)
20:17 tenplus1      looks interesting, will check the code tomorros :D
20:19 ircSparky     yw, its not as good or as polished as open_ai, but its definetly an improvement
20:22 ircSparky     main thing I'd be worried about is size difference with different mobs, since i have a set line of sight y offset
20:23 ircSparky     which is about where players heads are
20:25 ircSparky     ill put that in the PR description
20:37 aerozoic      omg i'm so sick of phantom sounds, has that been fixed yet?
20:38 Mr_Pardison   ask the Phantom of the Opera.
20:39 rdococ        phantom sounds? is that a YKW thing?
20:40 rdococ        oh
20:40 rdococ        you mean sounds that occur for no reason, correct? not sounds that the new Micro¢raft mob 'phantom' makes?
20:54 Fixer         sometimes I want 2 mouse cursors
20:54 tenplus1      more productivity :P
20:55 Fixer         yeah, 1 window is automated mining in voxel game and other is IRC for example
20:56 Mr_Pardison   oh, how I wish that were possible.
20:57 tenplus1      nite all o///
21:10 Mr_Pardison   g2g now.
21:10 Mr_Pardison   cya whenever I'm back online.
21:12 ThomasMonroe  cya
21:25 rdococ        Fixer: imagine if you had to control both manally :P
21:25 rdococ        s/manally/manually/
21:32 aerozoic      rdococ, yes the sounds that occur for no reason.
21:33 rdococ        *BANG*
21:37 IhrFussel     There are no such sounds in MT...at least not on my server...I'm guessing those are caused by a mod
21:39 IhrFussel     Or maybe those are only in 0.5.0-dev
21:40 IhrFussel     Or you were talking about Minecraft?
21:58 rdococ        aerozoic: what version and what mods?
22:00 aerozoic      rdococ, 4.16 stable. mod list: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=18183
22:01 rdococ        Did you know that, officially, it is not wrong to split an infinitive, and in some cases may be preferable?
22:01 aerozoic      eh, wut?
22:02 rdococ        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_English_usage_misconceptions
22:05 rdococ        A sentence can end in a prepositionâ„¢
22:43 Fixer         JUST ONE MORE YEAR
22:44 rdococ        rubenwardy: I'm in the midst of creating a better team allocation algorithm that ensures that the teams have the most similar total score
22:45 rubenwardy    that won't work well
22:45 rubenwardy    scores aren't comparable
22:45 rubenwardy    a 2x score isn't 2x better
22:45 rdococ        hm... K/D ratio?
22:46 rdococ        or maybe a combination of the two. you are right, I should use something more complex
22:46 rdococ        s/complex/accurate to how well the player plays/
22:51 rdococ        I'm gonna try kills - deaths
22:53 rdococ        Or K/D ratio, kills / (deaths + 1)
23:27 IhrFussel     Xubuntu 18.04 added a key combination to change font size in terminal...my issue is that they exact same combination is required for nano (jump to line X)
23:29 rdococ        jump to line 72, and suddenly everything is huge!
23:29 rdococ        can you reconfigure them?
23:34 IhrFussel     rdococ, the combination is ctrl+- to decrease font and ctrl++ to increase it again...and nano needs ctrl+- to enter a line number ... I didn't find an option for that yet
23:36 IhrFussel     ctrl+shift+- seems to work...but I don't remember having to hold down shift for it before
23:40 rdococ        when IhrFussel becomes old he could change his nickname to IhrFossilâ„¢
23:45 rdococ        aerozoic: When you need a zoic in the airâ„¢
23:46 rdococ        I feel kind of ill
23:46 aerozoic      :)
23:47 rdococ        hehe, lua is so weird