Time Nick Message 00:31 Sokomine hmpf :-( can't manage to solve the new box on sofars server... 00:32 Sokomine you ar selling hands? strange thing to do. are they diamond quality? 00:33 rdococ Diamond quality hands are sold at £50 00:33 rdococ The £20 hands are dirt quality hands 00:35 Sokomine can't afford that much. guess i'll take a mese one then 00:36 rdococ Mese quality hands are £70 02:16 ircSparky would the only way to start node timers that are not in ABM range would be to saveall of their coords nad go through them all? 02:25 ircSparky my loot spawning system dosnt work the best 02:26 ircSparky if you're going from town to town trying to loot, there is basically none 02:26 ircSparky but if you afk in a town for a 5-10 minutes 02:26 ircSparky you'll get a lot 02:27 ircSparky im basically using mob spawners, so if anyone has any suggestions feel free 02:29 ircSparky the best thing would be new loot near every spawner every 15 minutes regardless of where players are 12:16 tenplus1 hi folks 12:18 Raven262 Hi ten 12:19 tenplus1 hi raven :P 12:19 tenplus1 Hoppers 1.6 - Added Void Hoppers (transfer to chests distances away) 12:26 rdococ Eleven 12:26 tenplus1 hey rdococ... hi paramat 12:26 rdococ paramaters 12:27 rdococ I am passing the paramaters to the function 12:27 paramat ouch hehe 12:27 rdococ The function errored: "Parameter #2 should be an integer!" 12:28 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2 -- Burned wood 12:28 rdococ ^ Now that Minetest is basically a game engine instead of a game, you can essentially do that entirely in Lua 12:29 tenplus1 yup 12:29 tenplus1 ethereal has scorched wood that can be made into charcoal 12:31 * rdococ places molten iron and water to create an infinite iron generator like you would a cobble one 12:32 tenplus1 lol 12:32 * Shara might need to steal scorched wood for something :P 12:32 * rdococ melts diamond so he can use it to create an infinite diamond generator, but anyone that stands within 5 blocks of it slowly dies 12:33 tenplus1 lol, hi shara :) 12:33 Shara Hi ten, how's it going? 12:33 rdococ Shara subtracted 1 from eleven! 12:33 tenplus1 not bad, got coffee and updated Hoppers to 1.6 (added void hopper) 12:33 tenplus1 you ? 12:33 Shara Yea, read comments. Those sound interesting :) 12:33 Shara I'm not too bad thanks. 12:34 tenplus1 wb fixer 12:37 tenplus1 Shara: it lets you USE void chest to mark a container and wherever you place it the contents will transfer into the container :D 12:39 Shara will have to check when I have some more time :) 12:39 tenplus1 :P 12:39 rdococ Hm, you could mix iron (oxide) with aluminium to get thermite 12:40 tenplus1 ooooooh :P 12:40 xerox123 and then kab00m 12:40 tenplus1 that could melt metal blocks 12:40 rdococ Thermite would be used to craft higher tiers of TNT 12:40 rdococ (although it's not even actual TNT :P) 12:41 xerox123 trinitrotoluene; cute name :3 12:41 tenplus1 hi xerox 12:41 xerox123 hello 12:42 rdococ Remember, kids: mixing gunpowder with sand doesn't give you trinitrotoluene™ 12:44 rdococ Iron + water could make iron oxide, or maybe smelting it again could yield iron oxide 12:44 Fixer fuuck, are you serious? +31*C ? 12:45 rdococ ?# 12:45 tenplus1 ?? 12:48 rdococ My thermometer says "yay! degrees Celsius!" 12:50 rdococ YayBlobs (~yay@yayblobs/blobs) has joined 12:50 tenplus1 ehehe 12:52 tenplus1 hi DI3HARD139 12:52 rdococ wb DI3HARD139 12:52 rdococ aw 12:52 * rdococ yays loudly 12:52 tenplus1 btw rubenwardy your beds mod is really kewl btw 12:53 DI3HARD139 Thanks! *Goes back to figuring out why windows keeps hiding a folder that has raw files in it* 12:53 tenplus1 super secret raw files :P 12:53 DI3HARD139 More like the folder was there when the system booted and disappeared 8 secs later 12:54 rubenwardy ...I didn't make a beds mod 12:54 tenplus1 o.O 12:54 rdococ DI3HARD139 is using Windows? O_O 12:54 tenplus1 sorry ruben, I meant jordach :P 12:54 tenplus1 ahahaha 12:54 * tenplus1 hides 12:56 DI3HARD139 Yup. Windows 10 Pro *Wishes ms would go back to the good days* 12:57 * tenplus1 will stick with Xubuntu 18.04 :p 12:59 * rdococ will also stick with Xubuntu 18.04! 12:59 rdococ Yay! 13:10 tenplus1 testing Kubuntu, not bad... mundo eye candy :P 13:12 rdococ I want to try yaybuntu 13:14 tenplus1 could easily build your own distro :) 13:18 tenplus1 at one point ubuntu had a christian edition and satan edition... lol, quite weird 13:27 tenplus1 hi longer 13:27 longerstaff13 Hi 10+1 13:27 tenplus1 hi Krock 13:28 Krock hi tenplus1 13:29 Krock hmm.. still 16.04. I guess I did something wrong with the distro upgrade 13:30 tenplus1 server or desktop ? 13:30 Krock desktop 13:30 tenplus1 > sudo update-manager -d 13:30 tenplus1 didnt work ? 13:32 Krock hmm.. seems like I always ran it without "-d" and expected it detecting the new LTS automatically 13:32 tenplus1 -d forces the distro updgrade... without it just uypdated existing packages ;D 13:33 Krock so do I press "Upgrade" and then kill -9? :P 13:33 tenplus1 lol 13:36 tenplus1 hi sniper 13:37 sniper338 Ohayo tenplus1! :) 13:38 tenplus1 o// 13:39 sniper338 \\o 13:54 Krock oh yay.. it's going to install blender 13:56 tenplus1 is the upgrade happening ? 13:57 Krock yes 13:57 tenplus1 sweet, it'll update all of your installed apps as well :P 13:57 * tenplus1 really likes Libreoffice 6.01 13:57 Krock I'm not quite sure why it wants to install blender but meh.. I have the disk space for that 13:58 tenplus1 isnt it isntalled already ? 13:58 Krock not yet 13:59 tenplus1 just wondering why it's updating it if it wasn't already on system :P 13:59 tenplus1 unless it's a dependency on something you have already 14:00 Krock *shrug* 14:00 tenplus1 heh... it's all good 14:00 Krock downloading with 1.7 floppies per second 14:01 tenplus1 lol, that fast huh :P ehehe 14:10 rdococ I have to keep my internet extremely slow otherwise it fills my floppies faster than I can swap them out 14:10 tenplus1 ehehe, you need Amiga sfs: format, can get 1.92mb per floppy... every little helps :D 14:14 rdococ Minetest alone takes up 247.8 MB, which equates to 150 or so floppies 14:15 tenplus1 oof, didnt realise it was that big 14:15 rdococ "21983 items, totalling 247.8 MB" <- although that also includes mods and modpacks I have, and games and stuff 14:16 rdococ That's the amount of content in my backport-0.4 build 14:17 tenplus1 am still using 0.4.16 :P 14:17 rdococ I use 0.4.17-dev 14:17 rdococ I also test 0.5.0-dev 14:18 rdococ well, I mine*test* it :P 14:18 * tenplus1 still thinks devs should give a minetest-next release for testing 14:18 rdococ you mean a semi-stable 0.5.0-dev release as like an alpha or beta? 14:18 rdococ that's actually a good idea 14:19 tenplus1 same way Opera browser has stable and -next versions run side by side :) so players can test and report bugs better... 14:19 tenplus1 we need it easy for players to test 0.5x and give feedback 14:22 rdococ I can't wait for VAEs in 0.7.0 14:22 tenplus1 vae's ? 14:23 rdococ I also can't wait for 0.10.0 when the devs realize that they won't need to rush to 1.0.0 even if they stick with the weird versioning system they have at the moment 14:23 tenplus1 lol 14:23 rdococ I like semantic versioning but I don't consider it a requirement 14:23 rdococ As long as your versioning system makes sense it is yay 14:24 tenplus1 I'm eager for 0.5 release so I can start on a new mod base 14:25 rdococ I can't wait for 0.5.0 14:25 rdococ I'm so excited 14:25 rdococ Finally we can get the humidity and heat of positions without hacks 14:25 tenplus1 yaay... also new player model with 1.7 and 1.8 skins working 14:26 rdococ 1.7 and 1.8? 14:26 rdococ I don't think Minetest is there yet :P 14:26 tenplus1 wasnt the player model revamped to handle dual layer textures ? 14:26 rdococ oh... you mean YouKnowWhat™ 14:26 tenplus1 yeh... 1.7 single layer and 1.8 dual layer 14:26 rdococ I did like their overlay layer thing 14:28 tenplus1 hi fussel 14:28 rdococ hi IhrFussel 14:28 rdococ aw 14:29 IhrFussel Hi there...sometimes I wonder if that is some kind of script he's running :P 14:29 rdococ Windows 11 adds super spyware that lets all governments see your screen in realtime 14:29 tenplus1 script would have used IhrFussel :P 14:30 rdococ tenplus1 added a conditional to his script to make it say "hi fussel" if the person joining the channel is IhrFussel 14:30 tenplus1 lol 14:30 tenplus1 did you test latest mob api fussel ? do animals go uphill better now ? 14:31 rdococ I once saw an animal turn into a chicken 14:31 rdococ It was surreal 14:31 tenplus1 :P 14:31 rdococ I want to add dirt_with_grass slabs 14:31 rdococ So that hills look cooler 14:33 tenplus1 I wonder if you could make connected dirt... different objects to link them when you place a normal grass block :P 14:34 rdococ connected dirt... 14:34 tenplus1 that way you use 1 node and it'll connect going downhill etc. 14:36 Krock oh yes. nothing's better than a semi-upgraded system. GUI differences everywhere 14:37 rdococ Semi-yays 14:37 tenplus1 ehheeheh, still happening 14:39 IhrFussel tenplus1, seems to work better but couldn't test under high load yet 14:39 tenplus1 I added it to Xanadu with 20 players on and worked okie :) 14:48 xerox123 gonna try 18.04 in a VM when I get back 14:48 rdococ yays 14:49 tenplus1 kewl 14:49 tenplus1 xubuntu recommended 14:49 xerox123 iso has gone from 1.4 to 1.8 14:49 xerox123 GB* 14:49 xerox123 intéressant 14:49 tenplus1 xubu 18.04 is 1.4gb 14:50 tenplus1 default ubuntu has all the gnome3 crap added 14:50 xerox123 correction, it was 1.5GB* 14:50 xerox123 for 16.04.5 14:50 xerox123 4* rip typing today 14:51 tenplus1 :P 14:51 xerox123 hmmm, good points, I do prefer xfce4 14:51 xerox123 downloading xubuntu instead 14:56 Krock it's spreading! 14:57 rdococ Dammit, I'm trying to create a mod which generates grass slabs in the world but ugh 14:59 tenplus1 rdococ: Stairs Redo has glass slabs 14:59 Krock ^ grass, not glass 14:59 tenplus1 ahahahaha 15:00 * tenplus1 goes back to school 15:00 Krock .. on a sunday? 15:00 tenplus1 it's wednesday here 15:00 Krock oh. timezones 15:00 tenplus1 yup :P 15:01 rdococ tenplus1 has yays 15:02 rdococ at the moment they use ABMs to generate the grass slabs 15:03 rdococ they're meant to just be purely cosmetic (can't be dug or pointed at but can be walked on top of) 15:03 Krock use LBMs 15:04 rdococ I tried 15:04 rdococ they don't seem to work for newly generated terrain 15:04 Krock or better: use on generate callbacks and register your function after the first globalstep was executed to ensure it's the last one 15:05 Krock vmanip for the win 15:05 rdococ ugh 15:05 rdococ I don't want to have to deal with vmanip 15:05 IhrFussel The shutdown callbacks are guaranteed to run? I guess only if the shutdown was a proper one and not a lua error/segfault 15:06 rdococ delicious lua segfaults 15:07 IhrFussel The doc even mentions it "* **Warning**: If the server terminates abnormally (i.e. crashes), the registered 15:07 IhrFussel callbacks **will likely not be run**." 15:07 Krock lua segfault? is OOM a segfault?! 15:08 rdococ Lua segmentation fault yays 15:08 rdococ Krock: Serverswap, a server that runs on 1 MB of RAM and tons of swap 15:10 Krock I hope it's a MicroSD card with at least 128 GiB storage 15:10 Krock the wear is real 15:10 rdococ an underclocked raspberry pi 15:11 Krock but can it run doom? 15:12 rdococ doom running on a mechanical computer 15:12 IhrFussel Krock, do you know if the player list is still intact when the shutdown callback runs? 15:13 Krock IhrFussel, there was recently a change in this behaviour - either to ensure the players are kicked before or all afterwards. I'd have to look it up 15:13 IhrFussel I mean I hope it runs before any player gets disconnected... it would be kinda pointless otherwise 15:15 Krock in 0.5.0-dev, the players are kicked before on_shutdown is called. see server.cpp L321 15:16 IhrFussel WHY?? There are mods that need to run stuff on players as they disconnect 15:17 IhrFussel Wait...leaveplayer should be called then 15:17 IhrFussel Correct? 15:17 Krock I'd like to finish the upgrade before I do a deeper research. Meanwhile you can check for that line on github and check out the git blame 15:17 Krock yes, leaveplayer is called for all players before 15:18 rdococ I am yayed 15:21 xerox123 somehow I managed to break something by defining my own partition table during installation.... 15:21 * xerox123 slow claps 15:21 xerox123 start take 2 15:21 tenplus1 erk, what ya add? 15:22 rdococ Yay for partitioning 15:22 tenplus1 why does placing a node call after_destruct ???? 15:23 xerox123 oh, didnt specify a root mountpoint 15:23 rubenwardy because that's what set_node does 15:23 Krock because you're destroying air? 15:23 rubenwardy oh placing 15:23 rubenwardy yeah 15:23 tenplus1 it's ok, placing apple replaces apple with param2 = 1 15:23 rdococ lol, destroying air 15:23 rubenwardy I need to write a chapter on callback 15:23 tenplus1 it destructs itself... gah! 15:24 xerox123 back to smooth rolling! 15:24 tenplus1 :) what ya runnign now xerox ? 15:24 xerox123 xubuntu, waiting for the installation 15:24 Krock they're trying to get the vm for xubuntu 18.04 running I guess 15:24 IhrFussel I'm downloading Xubuntu 18.04 right now and will install it to my USB stick...then after that installation was safe I will upgrade my current system 15:25 rdococ xerox123: were you using windows before? 15:25 xerox123 I'm still using windows 15:25 xerox123 read what krock said 15:25 rdococ because you're destroying air? 15:25 Krock IhrFussel, I'm basically doing the same except that I don't do the first step 15:25 xerox123 <+Krock> they're trying to get the vm for xubuntu 18.04 running I guess 15:25 tenplus1 wb paramat 15:25 Krock hello paramat 15:25 rdococ woah 15:26 rdococ I looked really close at my monitor and became one with the pixels for a second 15:26 xerox123 Ive no intention of moving from windows 15:26 xerox123 I have* that sounds weird in my dialect 15:26 Krock xerox123, the solution is called dualboot 15:26 * rdococ internally cringes 15:26 xerox123 I'm sure Id fuck that up somehow 15:27 IhrFussel 1.3 GB for 64-bit version...I bet Win 10 ISO is 3+ 15:27 Krock 3+ without the garbage left over from old installation backups 15:27 xerox123 it's 4Gb I believe 15:28 IhrFussel Krock, so your upgrade was corrupt? Cause you said the GUI is not fully upgraded 15:28 Krock so only 500 MiB, xerox123 ? 15:28 Krock IhrFussel, because the upgrade was not fully done 15:28 * rdococ becomes a corrupt unicorn 15:28 Krock it's still ongoing 15:28 xerox123 500 for what? confused. 15:29 IhrFussel Huh? Can you use the system while upgrading? 15:29 Krock xerox123, 1 Gb = 1/8 GB 15:29 shivajiva is it possible to make a tool that cannot be dropped? 15:29 Krock ofc you can 15:29 xerox123 I'm sure you know what I meant 15:29 Krock shivajiva, yes. overwrite core.drop_item() 15:29 tenplus1 hi shiva 15:30 shivajiva thanks Krock, hi tenplus :) 15:30 Krock !next 15:30 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 15:30 Krock IhrFussel, however, firefox sometimes had 10s long 100% CPU usage peaks for some reason 15:32 Krock jeeks.. got to re-compile Minetest again 15:32 xerox123 also, I'm not the only one that uses this computer, so I don't know happy everyone else will be if I dualboot 15:34 Krock s/w h/w how h/ 15:35 Krock brb wish me luck rebooting 15:36 * rdococ disinfects this channel from Winbloze™ 15:37 tenplus1 Shara: you around ? 15:38 xerox123 yay krock is still working 15:38 Krock ree 15:38 tenplus1 o.O w00t! 18.04 ready ? 15:38 Krock OS: Ubuntu 18.04 bionic 15:39 tenplus1 schweeeeet 15:39 IhrFussel Congratz^^ my ISO is installing on stick now 15:40 xerox123 Client: HexChat 2.14.1 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6400 CPU @ 2.70GHz (2.71GHz) • Memory: 7.9 GiB Total (930.6 MiB Free) • Storage: 209.7 GiB / 917.8 GiB (708.1 GiB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GT 730 • Uptime: 4h 35m 43s 15:40 xerox123 Ill miss ShareX too much on ubuntu 15:42 * xerox123 tries out Libre Office 15:44 rdococ I feel like dying again 15:44 rdococ I hate mood swings 15:44 rdococ I don't know if my feelings are even real 15:45 tenplus1 yay to libreoffice 6, nay to dying before playing with libreoffice 6 15:45 IhrFussel "No new releases found." what?? 15:45 rubenwardy s-d 15:45 rubenwardy you need -d 15:45 tenplus1 wait, are you installing from flash drive or using "sudo update-manager -d" 15:46 rubenwardy do-release-upgrade -d 15:46 IhrFussel Why -d when it's released oficially? 15:46 rubenwardy update-manager for GUI 15:46 rubenwardy no idea 15:46 rubenwardy -d, --devel-release If using the latest supported release, upgrade to the 15:46 rubenwardy development release 15:46 xerox123 because it's probably not safe to until there's been some creases ironed out 15:46 rubenwardy maybe it takes a while for it to propagate? 15:46 xerox123 I saw something in ubuntu-release-party 15:46 rubenwardy maybe the version you on is newer if you're on dev, idk 15:47 rubenwardy is 17.10 > 18.04? 15:47 rubenwardy wouldn't make sense to be 15:47 IhrFussel I'm on 16.04 and want to upgrade to 18.04 15:47 xerox123 the notifications don't start until 18.04.1 15:47 xerox123 that ^ 15:47 rubenwardy ah, interesting 15:47 rubenwardy well, use -d 15:47 rubenwardy I guess they don't want people to mass upgrade until the first path 15:48 rubenwardy *patch 15:48 IhrFussel "(appstreamcli:6504): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_strchomp: assertion 'string != NULL' failed" << nothing to worry about? 15:49 xerox123 [06:36:23] malwar3hun73r: but 16.04.x users will be offered 18.04.1 when it comes out later in july 15:49 xerox123 attendez juillet 15:49 Krock IhrFussel, continue. I also had some warnings there 15:50 rdococ warning! yay! 15:50 Krock so we're going to wait for Romeo 15:50 xerox123 that would be Juliet 15:51 IhrFussel Alright...in non-ISO format it seems to be 1.9 GB, cause that's what it downloads now..or does that depend on the software installed? 15:51 rdococ Mercury would be a cool mod, you would use it to craft thermometers 15:51 xerox123 isn't ISO an archive type? 15:52 Krock it is 15:52 rdococ and if you touch a mercury salt you instantly die :P 15:53 xerox123 gonna install arc and stuff 15:53 IhrFussel 2 GB take ~ 20 minutes with my connection... I'm glad that I don't play these huge games (50+ GB) 15:53 rdococ Minetest is actually really small for a game nowadays 15:54 rdococ although then again, it *is* an engine 15:54 rdococ or game/game engine hybrid depending on how you look at it 15:54 rdococ I think 15:54 IhrFussel MT is even small as an app on the play store...I think it's 20 or 30 MB 15:55 IhrFussel Most games I try on my phone are 50+ MB ... and I *hate* it when I start the game and suddenly "We need to download 500 MB now" 15:55 rdococ my minetest/backport-0.4 folder is 258.7 MB, but I've compiled it and downloaded mods 15:56 IhrFussel It#s updating 0ad now...I thought it's just installing Xubun tu 18.04 15:57 * xerox123 checks r/unixporn 15:57 IhrFussel So it seems to indeed attempt to upgrade all my installed software 15:59 tenplus1 and at the end it'll mark the packages you no longer need for removal :P 16:00 rdococ Delicious 16:04 rdococ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron(III)_oxide 16:04 rdococ Ooh, I could revisit my brainfuck interpreter mod idea, using a magnetic tape 16:07 rdococ tenplus1: Yay 16:07 tenplus1 lolol 16:08 * tenplus1 has successfully regrown fruit on mt tree's 16:08 rdococ Also cool would be an alchemy mod - you would be able to use it to transmute mercury and sulfur to other metals 16:08 tenplus1 you woudl need some mystical force to help do that 16:09 rdococ it's minetest, anything is possible unless you want metadata-dependent textures 16:10 rdococ the param1/2 system should be expanded to be able to handle indefinite amounts of (maybe only numerical?) data 16:10 tenplus1 Q. how long should a tree take before it regrows fruit ? 16:10 tenplus1 in mt terms 16:11 rdococ 403 years 16:11 tenplus1 wow, were gonna end up growing raisins and prunes :P 16:11 rdococ and it should grow golden apples that make you immortal 16:11 rdococ and obsidian apples that break your teeth 16:12 tenplus1 eheheh 16:13 rdococ or maybe an "ore extraction" mod that forces you to use chemistry to extract metals from their ores 16:13 IhrFussel Wait...upgrading means I will stay on 4.0.0 kernel...correct? 16:13 tenplus1 18.04 has the 4.15.3 kernel 16:14 IhrFussel So the linux kernel will be replaced too on upgrade? 16:14 tenplus1 old kernel will remain just incase, but you will had the new one installed 16:14 rdococ you have 4.0.0? O_O 16:14 xerox123 dayum 16:14 IhrFussel Xubuntu 16.04 uses 4.0.0 16:14 rdococ I remember when I had 3.16.x 16:15 tenplus1 hi aerozoic 16:16 aerozoic hi ten+1 16:19 tenplus1 seriously tho, how long should it take for tree to regrow fruit (apple, banana, orange) ? 16:19 aerozoic One day/night cycle? 16:19 tenplus1 so for mt 20 mins ? 16:20 rdococ 21 minutes, and 32.443 seconds 16:20 aerozoic well the cycle length is determined by the .conf setting 16:20 rdococ although I'm not sure any mod actually takes that into account 16:20 tenplus1 will set to random number between 20 and 30 mins :D 16:22 rdococ Delicious yayhoppers 16:22 aerozoic tenplus1, ur adding banna and orange trees to farming? 16:23 tenplus1 they are already in Ethereal mod :) 16:23 tenplus1 am just making a tiny mod to regrow the fruit on tree's 16:23 aerozoic what about servers that don't use ethereal? 16:23 rdococ I want to create some kind of chemistry mod but idk what to do with it 16:24 xerox123 incase you're into 'ricing' your desktop, consider 'tilda'. it's a terminal built into your desktop with a ton of customisation options 16:24 xerox123 http://0x0.st/sQ7L.png 16:25 tenplus1 aerozoic: moretree's I suppose :P 16:26 xerox123 or even make it completely transparent: http://0x0.st/sQ7p.png 16:26 tenplus1 nice 16:27 rdococ I find hoppers much nicer to work with than pipeworks 16:28 rdococ I like how input and output are determined by gravity, for example 16:28 tenplus1 did you see new Void Hopper ? 16:29 rdococ yes, it's awesome 16:29 tenplus1 :P 16:29 rdococ although, can someone use a void hopper to add items to your locked chest? :P 16:29 tenplus1 no 16:30 tenplus1 checks protection before allowing anyone to add stuff 16:30 rdococ ah. even if that was possible it'd still be better than taking items away, I suppose 16:30 tenplus1 you could bung garbage into someones hopper machine that say makes wine, stopping the process... would be nasty 16:31 tenplus1 weird thing was I tested void hopper and it kept working well over 20 blocks away so long as original block was still loaded... 16:31 rdococ !true || !false 16:31 tenplus1 once it unloads it stops 16:31 rdococ can void hopper move items to unloaded mapblocks? 16:32 tenplus1 nope, has to be loaded 16:32 rdococ delicious world anchors 16:32 tenplus1 but, you could connect hopper to hopper so that it passes them a few blocks apart 16:32 tenplus1 :P 16:33 tenplus1 it saves adding a ton of pipes between them and having it move 1 node each second... 16:33 tenplus1 so mob grinders or egg collectors could transfer eggs to chest up top :P 16:35 tenplus1 https://github.com/tenplus1/regrow 16:40 Krock interestingly the new Minetest build is detected as a shared library, whereas the old 16.04 builds are executables 16:40 tenplus1 hrm... 16:41 tenplus1 why does minetest installed from repo require python2 as dependency tho 16:41 Krock it's a mystery 16:41 rdococ python api confirmed 16:41 * tenplus1 hates py2 and wonders why py3 isnt used as default 16:42 rdococ I come from the year 2050 where Minetest 0.7.0 adds a python4 modding API 16:43 Krock I think you meant JavaScript API 16:43 rdococ Brainfuck API 16:43 tenplus1 lol 16:44 rdococ VAEs were added in 0.57.0-beta1 - although 0.57.0 was renamed to 1.0.0 before its release 16:58 paramat hmm 20-30 mins is too short for fruit regrow, consider it takes a year IRL 16:58 tenplus1 lol, talking mt tree's here... having a player wait 20-30 mins may be worthwhile ;D 16:59 IhrFussel Still installing packages... is it normal that dpkg often complains about no file found? 17:06 tenplus1 dont worry about that 17:06 tenplus1 you get a few errors for firmware that's not installed on your setup 17:07 tenplus1 Teleport Potion updated, no longer tp's sign text and itemframe items :P 17:07 rdococ lol 17:08 tenplus1 silly bugs ehehe :) 17:08 rdococ wasn't there a mod that added item frames that didn't use entities? 17:08 tenplus1 yeah, but you gotta register a new node for every item 17:08 rdococ which is why we need metadata defined node properties asap 17:10 tenplus1 http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/730195/85037597.jpg noms anyone 17:10 paramat well i'm considering that there will be many fruit trees, so you'll essentially get a fruit every few minutes. players will tend to grow multiple fruit trees 17:10 xerox123 cholesterol in a bite™ 17:11 tenplus1 eehehe 17:14 IhrFussel I never saw so many "Setting up" lines in a row before 17:16 tenplus1 once packages are installed it runs through each to make sure necessary settings are changed also :) 17:16 tenplus1 gotta love linux updates... they work 17:17 IhrFussel Oops correction: Xubuntu 16.04 uses 4.4.0 not 4.0.0 17:18 IhrFussel Yeah I know but it was like 200 lines of it 17:20 IhrFussel It also told me during the process that I need to run this command after the upgrade manually "install-docs --install-changed" 17:21 tenplus1 never ran that, not one for reading docs 17:23 tenplus1 :P 17:33 tenplus1 I think fonts and icon packs should work like mt textures... have a base font/icon set and any new one's with missing icons or characters falls back to the base to display 17:33 tenplus1 great for unicode 17:38 IhrFussel Is there an app that seriously gives player the default name "Ficker"? 17:38 IhrFussel That means fucker in German 17:38 tenplus1 lol 17:39 tenplus1 hi tumeninodes 17:40 IhrFussel Okay time to restart...see you in a few minutes (I hope) 17:40 tenplus1 good luck 17:40 tumeninodes howdy tenplus1 17:40 tenplus1 o//// 17:41 tumeninodes you're gonna hurt yourself waving that hard :P 17:41 tenplus1 trying to fly :P 17:41 tumeninodes in circles? 0_o 17:41 tenplus1 sadly yes :P 17:41 tumeninodes who has more detailed info related to: 17:42 tumeninodes Engine-internal (do not use in mods) 17:42 tumeninodes [crack:N:P / [cracko:N:P 17:42 tumeninodes Adds a cracking texture on top of the base image, scaled by xP (from 0 to 9) in each dimension. [crack blits the crack texture on top of the base image with alpha blending. [cracko overlays it instead (the crack texture's color is interpolated with the base image's according to its alpha value if the base pixel is fully opaque; otherwise the base pixel is left unmodified). N is the number of frames in the base image 17:42 tumeninodes (1 if not animated). 17:42 tenplus1 ? 17:42 tumeninodes also, I think "blits" is supposed to be "builds"? (possibly) 17:43 tumeninodes yeh, interesting turn of events today, has me checking... cracks 17:43 tenplus1 dont step on 'em tho... break your momma's back 17:44 tumeninodes Oh..., well that explains it 17:45 tenplus1 wb fussel, how's it looking ? 17:45 IhrFussel CURL_OPENSSL_3 not found ... MT won't start 17:46 tumeninodes uh oh 17:46 tenplus1 re-install minetest from repo 17:48 IhrFussel still the same 17:49 rdococ I'm modifying my stack_max mod 17:49 tenplus1 > sudo apt-get remove minetest 17:50 tenplus1 and then > sudo apt-get install minetest 17:50 tenplus1 defo works, am using it here 17:50 IhrFussel i did purge then install 17:51 tenplus1 weird,,, > sudo apt-get reinstall curl 17:52 rdococ tenplus1: at the end of the hopper mod's README is "Lucky Blocks: 2" 17:53 IhrFussel nope :/ 17:53 rdococ what does that mean? can you get hoppers from minetest lucky blocks if both mods are installed? 17:53 tenplus1 yes... all my mods show how many lucky blocks are added when it's running :0 17:54 tenplus1 farming redo has many :P 17:54 rdococ ah 17:55 IhrFussel curl wasn't even installed it seems...but even after installing same error 17:55 rdococ wow, void hopper requires diamond and mese block 17:55 sfan5 tumeninodes: no, "blit" is correct in the context of that documentation 17:55 tenplus1 if teleport potion mod active then they are replaced with tp potions :) 17:55 sfan5 IhrFussel: recompile your minetest 17:55 sfan5 it's linked to an outdated version of libcurl you no longer have 17:55 tenplus1 hi sfan 17:57 rubenwardy tumeninodes: blit means copy pixel onto, basically 17:57 rubenwardy it probably shouldn't use that word anyway 17:57 rubenwardy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_blit 17:58 rdococ realistic teleportation would require an internet signal and some quantum shenanigans 17:58 rdococ s/internet/some kind of/ 17:58 tenplus1 that's why it costs a diamond and mese block... expensive stuff to do :) 17:59 rubenwardy IhrFussel: apt install curl-dev 17:59 rubenwardy or libcurl-dev 17:59 rubenwardy or libcurl 17:59 rubenwardy just install the lib/dev version of curl 18:00 tumeninodes heh, well at least I learned a new word today :D thanks guys 18:01 tenplus1 Amiga has blitter chip :D w00t! 18:01 IhrFussel i'm trying to recompile first 18:02 tumeninodes and, is there any further info on crack and cracko? any examples of them in use-in code? 18:02 tumeninodes shoot forgot I left water boiling 0_o be back in a few 18:06 rdococ how would I provide a description for mod settings? 18:07 rdococ aj 18:07 tenplus1 a setting in .conf ? 18:07 Krock IhrFussel, same here. compiling Minetest new solved it :) 18:07 rdococ nvm 18:09 Krock rdococ, settingtypes.txt 18:10 rdococ Krock: I figured it out 18:10 tenplus1 hehe, I added those to my mods :) they work well 18:12 rdococ I'm modifying my stack_max mod which lets you change the default stack_max value, although it's a bit hacky 18:12 tenplus1 does it override items ? 18:12 IhrFussel seems to work now 18:12 rdococ Yes, and it also modifies register_* functions 18:12 tenplus1 glad to hear fussel :) 18:14 tenplus1 if it helps any the mt downloads page always seems to have latest build already built for ubuntu/mint :) 18:23 rdococ Troll: use stack_max mod to set the default stack max to 1 18:24 tenplus1 mwhehehe 18:25 rdococ Hm, should the default default stack maximum be 100 or 72? 18:25 rdococ Both are good choices... 100 is easier to do mental calculations with but 72 is more easily divisible 18:25 tenplus1 99 all the way 18:25 rdococ Ew, 99 18:25 tenplus1 :P 18:25 Krock rdococ, 99 or anything which can be divided by 2,4 and 9 18:25 rdococ Krock: 72 is divisible by 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, and 9 18:25 rdococ and 18 and 36 18:26 Krock but it's a small stack 18:26 rdococ If you want larger then 120 is highly composite 18:26 Krock how about 999 18:26 rubenwardy 360 18:26 rdococ Krock: 65535 18:26 rubenwardy divides well 18:27 rdococ rubenwardy: that's a bit big 18:27 Krock use radians. use 2*PI 18:27 rubenwardy XD 18:27 rdococ lol 18:27 rubenwardy maybe even 720 18:27 rubenwardy extra division there 18:27 rubenwardy hell, 18:27 rdococ well, with my mod you could set it to basically any value 18:27 rdococ as long as it's a positive integer and below 65536 18:27 rubenwardy 10800 18:27 Krock rdococ, please test with 65536 18:27 rdococ Krock: will do 18:28 rdococ Unless it was changed recently, trying to give yourself 65536 either resulted in an error or gave you 0 18:28 rdococ although I think /give now abides by the stack maximum 18:29 Krock yes, /give foo:bar -1 will now fill your inventory entirely 18:29 rdococ Krock: Trying out 65536 results in stacks of 65535 18:29 tenplus1 maybe stack size should depend on the item in question... obsidian limited to say 45, sticks to 120 etc 18:29 rdococ tenplus1: that's outside the scope of my mod, but you could do that 18:29 Krock water buckets to 1 18:29 rdococ or I could make another mod that does it 18:30 tenplus1 wb 18:31 rdococ I'm going to change the default default to 120 as it's highly composite and easier to do mental calculations with than 72 18:32 CWz why does combining fire_fire.1 2 and 3 and than slowing it down with audacity using an addon make it sound like there is demonic whispering? 18:32 tenplus1 lol CWz.... also hi 18:32 CWz hi 18:39 rdococ https://github.com/rdococ/stack_max - I also switched to MIT license 18:39 tenplus1 yay 18:40 Krock rdococ, creating new "minetest." function isn't exactly the right way to do it 18:40 rdococ Krock: ? 18:41 rdococ do you think I should remove it and stick with the "stack_max." function? 18:42 Krock the minetest/core table belongs to the (obviously) core functions, so yes. use the own table 18:42 rdococ The mod works entirely by modifying several core functions 19:15 IhrFussel HexChat is suddenly German...I mean the channel messages (join/leave) 19:17 tenplus1 check your language settings 19:21 Krock make it so it's in klingon 19:21 tenplus1 or scottish 19:22 tenplus1 dae yi want to shut doon yer pc ? 19:24 rdococ klingon™ 19:27 IhrFussel No I mean I prefer German, but I wonder why it was English before the upgrade 19:28 rdococ try klingon, you could prefer it more 19:29 Sokomine german translations of english texts and computer terms often sound pretty odd. in the past they required re-translation in order to understand what was meant 19:31 rdococ ah, linguistics 19:32 Sokomine as far as stack size is concerned...larger stacks are usually more helpful. there are some servers that increase stack size for cobble and other disposable items to 499 or so. very useful. crafting...works better with what unified_inventory provides as help 19:33 tenplus1 hi sokomine 19:33 Sokomine rdococ: it was very confusing to get 1000 or so blocks requested with /giveme as individual stacks. took some time to clean up my inventory again 19:34 Sokomine hi ten 19:34 rdococ Sokomine: I do think that /give shouldn't have been changed to obey the stack maximum 19:34 rdococ At least if it would result in the number of item slots being used up beyond some kind of threshold e.g. 5 slots maximum 19:34 Sokomine yes, that was rather confusing. i liked the old behaviour far better. the new very strict handling is severely annoying 19:35 rdococ (so /give rdococ 198 would give me two stacks of 99 but, say, /give rdococ 65535 would give me one stack of 65535) 19:35 Sokomine it started with larger stacks behaving very strangely and trying too hard to follow real stack size limit. that's not very convenient in a more creative setting 19:37 tenplus1 wb red 19:37 * tenplus1 sets stack size to 999 19:37 rdococ I remember trying to interact with an oversized stack in the past, and all of the extra items on the stack just vanished 19:37 rdococ it was very odd and I can't remember the commit number or version 19:37 rdococ I recommend highly composite numbers such as 120 19:38 rdococ the closest highly composite number to 999 is 840 19:39 rdococ and the highest highly composite number below 65535 is 55440, but I doubt it'd matter as much when your stacks can get larger than your inventory 19:39 Sokomine the normal stack max works pretty well in practice. servers that increase the stack max of cobble are treating their users well. i don't think more action is required regarding stack size. apart from perhaps what arises from recent changes 19:39 Sokomine but that won't affect players which are not working in creative or semi-creative mode anyway 19:40 rdococ I would like to see a per-inv-list stack size #7229 19:40 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7229 -- Per-Inventory List Max Stack Size 19:56 tenplus1 wb rudolf 19:56 rud0lf thx 19:57 rud0lf just updating my vps 19:58 rdococ rud0lf the grene eyed unicorn 20:04 rdococ I'm switching the default back to 72 as it's divisible by 9 20:11 rdococ Or 100 20:23 tenplus1 nite folks o/// 22:41 IhrFussel How do I find out the exact amount of days my world exists since? Game Time seems to not make much sense...it doesn't go up when the server is offline correct? 22:45 IhrFussel According to "game time" my world exists since May 14 2016 ... but that can't be true...I think it was 4th or 8th May 2016 when it went online 22:51 rdococ it probably doesn't go up when the server is offline 22:51 rdococ not sure what you mean by game time, though... do you mean the day/night cycle? 22:56 IhrFussel No, game_time is a line in env_meta.txt 22:56 IhrFussel But it's not accurate since, like you just said, it most likely oesn't increase during down time 22:57 IhrFussel doesn't* 23:00 rubenwardy it shouldn't increase during the time it's offline 23:00 rubenwardy it's the game_time 23:00 rubenwardy not server_age 23:01 IhrFussel It says "age" in the server list though 23:02 IhrFussel But only 6 days downtime in 2 years is rather impressive I'd say 23:11 xerox123_ Very heavy rain and strong winds forecast in East England :( 23:12 xerox123_ Have to walk through it tomorrow to get to school 23:14 rdococ I hate being at school 23:15 rdococ a bunch of people trying to blackmail you into performing various forms of boring paperwork while you're forced to remain inside the premises 23:15 rdococ and most of the time will be blackmailled to remain in the room they want you to be in unless you need the toilet 23:15 Fixer schools always sucked 23:16 rdococ I don't understand why they are the way they are, but at the same time I see flat-earthers and other people that are even dumber than I thought possible 23:17 rdococ I wonder if it was because they dropped out of school before learning about such things as earth's shape and orbit? if so then that's a pretty early time to drop out 23:17 Fixer schools is world-wide problem with deep issues that are not solveable easily 23:17 Fixer damn, my english suck 23:17 Fixer s 23:17 Fixer problem is how to make kids interested in school 23:18 Fixer and school is just a prison with learning tbh 23:18 Fixer boring and mostly useless 23:18 Fixer they teach toooons of stuff, facts, dates, logarithms etc, without explaining why it is needed at all 23:19 Fixer how it can help in daily life, etc 23:19 rdococ although... my situation is kind of unique compared to most kids: having HFA/AS means that I go to a "special needs" school which doesn't even teach most of the mathematical stuff I had to teach myself - algebra, trigonometry, logarithms, etc. 23:19 Fixer i remember some serious math/trig, it is made in typical way that does not show you how to apply it in real life, it is really math geeky 23:19 rdococ and on some occasions, in my class the teaching staff keep reminding people that they should use "capital letters"... I'm in high school and people don't know capital letters... 23:20 rdococ I mean, they aren't even necessary to understand a sentence, I only use them for "I" because lowercase "i" on its own bugs me 23:20 Fixer basic math + basic trig is all you need 23:20 Fixer and percents 23:20 rdococ although I am much more used to it now, lowercase "i" used to bug me a lot 23:20 Fixer financial related stuff is important 23:20 Fixer to calculate your debts, etc 23:20 rdococ Fixer: when I self-learned algebra and trigonometry I found it to be quite interesting 23:22 rdococ I even, to an extent, understand the ideas behind basic calculus (integral and derivative) (I haven't memorized any rules but I understand the concept) 23:23 rdococ although the 'rules' that people are supposed to 'memorize' are themselves interesting 23:23 rdococ I honestly think of school as not only a huge time-suck but the primary demotivator in my life 23:24 rdococ I don't feel the urge to go outside because of my limited time away from that place 23:25 rdococ It's having unhealthy effects on my life and the teaching staff have the gall to blame me for it 23:25 xerox123_ You spend more than half a day at school? O_o 23:25 rdococ no? 23:25 rdococ half a day is a long time per day, xerox123_ - in fact, it's half of it 23:26 xerox123_ You made it sound like you have to spend an entire day there and only get weekends off 23:26 xerox123_ But anyways carry on :p 23:26 rdococ If I had to spend an entire day there every day and only got weekends off I would have killed myself 23:26 rdococ I'm being entirely serious 23:27 rdococ (although I don't need sympathy for it, it's good that I don't spend that much time there and I'm doing okay now) 23:28 rdococ School means that I stay up all night so that I can maximize every moment outside of school 23:29 rdococ School is currently the reason as to my life is somewhat of a wreck now. I can barely find the motivation to get out of bed unless I need the toilet. 23:30 rdococ I need serious psychological help but I don't trust anyone - if they're anything like teaching staff at my school they will just make me feel bad for feeling bad 23:30 rdococ although the fact that I am self-aware might help things a little 23:31 rdococ I've had a teacher/ing staff yell to my face that I don't have empathy 23:31 rdococ I definitely have empathy, just not for people that treat me as less than a human being 23:32 IhrFussel The command /deleteblocks resets the area to its original generated state? Or replaces the mapblock with air? 23:32 rdococ Or others, for that matter 23:32 xerox123_ Resets the area 23:33 rdococ YKW doesn't use cubic chunks unless you have a mod, and it doesn't have an official mod API either 23:33 xerox123_ I'm assuming they mean worldedit 23:34 rdococ xerox123_: I checked, I don't think it's a WE command 23:34 xerox123_ //deleteblocks is a worldedit command 23:34 rdococ My point was that /deleteblocks is also a command 23:35 xerox123_ Oh 23:35 xerox123_ Um, well this might go badly... 23:35 rdococ I got a lua error from trying to delete a mapblock with an item entity in it 23:36 xerox123_ The day clorox123 almost nuked a server™ 23:36 rdococ lol 23:36 rdococ Looks like it was trying to get a node and tried to index it but it was nil 23:36 rdococ Upon rejoining, though, the mapblock was indeed reset 23:36 * xerox123_ is trying to figure out how to explain freenode live to his parents 23:37 rdococ Hm, //deleteblocks is used without parameters but if /deleteblocks is used w/o parameters then it complains about invalid parameters 23:39 Fixer high school hours is almost like work 23:40 Fixer with very agressive and frequent testing, annoying as well 23:54 IhrFussel I'm talking about non-WE /deleteblocks 23:55 IhrFussel Like /deleteblocks here 10