| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:31 |
Sokomine |
hmpf :-( can't manage to solve the new box on sofars server... |
| 00:32 |
Sokomine |
you ar selling hands? strange thing to do. are they diamond quality? |
| 00:33 |
rdococ |
Diamond quality hands are sold at £50 |
| 00:33 |
rdococ |
The £20 hands are dirt quality hands |
| 00:35 |
Sokomine |
can't afford that much. guess i'll take a mese one then |
| 00:36 |
rdococ |
Mese quality hands are £70 |
| 02:16 |
ircSparky |
would the only way to start node timers that are not in ABM range would be to saveall of their coords nad go through them all? |
| 02:25 |
ircSparky |
my loot spawning system dosnt work the best |
| 02:26 |
ircSparky |
if you're going from town to town trying to loot, there is basically none |
| 02:26 |
ircSparky |
but if you afk in a town for a 5-10 minutes |
| 02:26 |
ircSparky |
you'll get a lot |
| 02:27 |
ircSparky |
im basically using mob spawners, so if anyone has any suggestions feel free |
| 02:29 |
ircSparky |
the best thing would be new loot near every spawner every 15 minutes regardless of where players are |
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| 12:16 |
tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 12:18 |
Raven262 |
Hi ten |
| 12:19 |
tenplus1 |
hi raven :P |
| 12:19 |
tenplus1 |
Hoppers 1.6 - Added Void Hoppers (transfer to chests distances away) |
| 12:26 |
rdococ |
Eleven |
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| 12:26 |
tenplus1 |
hey rdococ... hi paramat |
| 12:26 |
rdococ |
paramaters |
| 12:27 |
rdococ |
I am passing the paramaters to the function |
| 12:27 |
paramat |
ouch hehe |
| 12:27 |
rdococ |
The function errored: "Parameter #2 should be an integer!" |
| 12:28 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2 -- Burned wood |
| 12:28 |
rdococ |
^ Now that Minetest is basically a game engine instead of a game, you can essentially do that entirely in Lua |
| 12:29 |
tenplus1 |
yup |
| 12:29 |
tenplus1 |
ethereal has scorched wood that can be made into charcoal |
| 12:31 |
* rdococ |
places molten iron and water to create an infinite iron generator like you would a cobble one |
| 12:32 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 12:32 |
* Shara |
might need to steal scorched wood for something :P |
| 12:32 |
* rdococ |
melts diamond so he can use it to create an infinite diamond generator, but anyone that stands within 5 blocks of it slowly dies |
| 12:33 |
tenplus1 |
lol, hi shara :) |
| 12:33 |
Shara |
Hi ten, how's it going? |
| 12:33 |
rdococ |
Shara subtracted 1 from eleven! |
| 12:33 |
tenplus1 |
not bad, got coffee and updated Hoppers to 1.6 (added void hopper) |
| 12:33 |
tenplus1 |
you ? |
| 12:33 |
Shara |
Yea, read comments. Those sound interesting :) |
| 12:33 |
Shara |
I'm not too bad thanks. |
| 12:34 |
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| 12:34 |
tenplus1 |
wb fixer |
| 12:37 |
tenplus1 |
Shara: it lets you USE void chest to mark a container and wherever you place it the contents will transfer into the container :D |
| 12:39 |
Shara |
will have to check when I have some more time :) |
| 12:39 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 12:39 |
rdococ |
Hm, you could mix iron (oxide) with aluminium to get thermite |
| 12:40 |
tenplus1 |
ooooooh :P |
| 12:40 |
xerox123 |
and then kab00m |
| 12:40 |
tenplus1 |
that could melt metal blocks |
| 12:40 |
rdococ |
Thermite would be used to craft higher tiers of TNT |
| 12:40 |
rdococ |
(although it's not even actual TNT :P) |
| 12:41 |
xerox123 |
trinitrotoluene; cute name :3 |
| 12:41 |
tenplus1 |
hi xerox |
| 12:41 |
xerox123 |
hello |
| 12:42 |
rdococ |
Remember, kids: mixing gunpowder with sand doesn't give you trinitrotolueneâ„¢ |
| 12:44 |
rdococ |
Iron + water could make iron oxide, or maybe smelting it again could yield iron oxide |
| 12:44 |
Fixer |
fuuck, are you serious? +31*C ? |
| 12:45 |
rdococ |
?# |
| 12:45 |
tenplus1 |
?? |
| 12:48 |
rdococ |
My thermometer says "yay! degrees Celsius!" |
| 12:50 |
rdococ |
YayBlobs (~yay yayblobs/blobs) has joined |
| 12:50 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe |
| 12:51 |
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| 12:52 |
tenplus1 |
hi DI3HARD139 |
| 12:52 |
rdococ |
wb DI3HARD139 |
| 12:52 |
rdococ |
aw |
| 12:52 |
* rdococ |
yays loudly |
| 12:52 |
tenplus1 |
btw rubenwardy your beds mod is really kewl btw |
| 12:53 |
DI3HARD139 |
Thanks! *Goes back to figuring out why windows keeps hiding a folder that has raw files in it* |
| 12:53 |
tenplus1 |
super secret raw files :P |
| 12:53 |
DI3HARD139 |
More like the folder was there when the system booted and disappeared 8 secs later |
| 12:54 |
rubenwardy |
...I didn't make a beds mod |
| 12:54 |
tenplus1 |
o.O |
| 12:54 |
rdococ |
DI3HARD139 is using Windows? O_O |
| 12:54 |
tenplus1 |
sorry ruben, I meant jordach :P |
| 12:54 |
tenplus1 |
ahahaha |
| 12:54 |
* tenplus1 |
hides |
| 12:56 |
DI3HARD139 |
Yup. Windows 10 Pro *Wishes ms would go back to the good days* |
| 12:57 |
* tenplus1 |
will stick with Xubuntu 18.04 :p |
| 12:59 |
* rdococ |
will also stick with Xubuntu 18.04! |
| 12:59 |
rdococ |
Yay! |
| 13:10 |
tenplus1 |
testing Kubuntu, not bad... mundo eye candy :P |
| 13:12 |
rdococ |
I want to try yaybuntu |
| 13:14 |
tenplus1 |
could easily build your own distro :) |
| 13:18 |
tenplus1 |
at one point ubuntu had a christian edition and satan edition... lol, quite weird |
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| 13:27 |
tenplus1 |
hi longer |
| 13:27 |
longerstaff13 |
Hi 10+1 |
| 13:27 |
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| 13:27 |
tenplus1 |
hi Krock |
| 13:28 |
Krock |
hi tenplus1 |
| 13:29 |
Krock |
hmm.. still 16.04. I guess I did something wrong with the distro upgrade |
| 13:30 |
tenplus1 |
server or desktop ? |
| 13:30 |
Krock |
desktop |
| 13:30 |
tenplus1 |
> sudo update-manager -d |
| 13:30 |
tenplus1 |
didnt work ? |
| 13:32 |
Krock |
hmm.. seems like I always ran it without "-d" and expected it detecting the new LTS automatically |
| 13:32 |
tenplus1 |
-d forces the distro updgrade... without it just uypdated existing packages ;D |
| 13:33 |
Krock |
so do I press "Upgrade" and then kill -9? :P |
| 13:33 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 13:36 |
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| 13:36 |
tenplus1 |
hi sniper |
| 13:37 |
sniper338 |
Ohayo tenplus1! :) |
| 13:38 |
tenplus1 |
o// |
| 13:39 |
sniper338 |
\\o |
| 13:54 |
Krock |
oh yay.. it's going to install blender |
| 13:56 |
tenplus1 |
is the upgrade happening ? |
| 13:57 |
Krock |
yes |
| 13:57 |
tenplus1 |
sweet, it'll update all of your installed apps as well :P |
| 13:57 |
* tenplus1 |
really likes Libreoffice 6.01 |
| 13:57 |
Krock |
I'm not quite sure why it wants to install blender but meh.. I have the disk space for that |
| 13:58 |
tenplus1 |
isnt it isntalled already ? |
| 13:58 |
Krock |
not yet |
| 13:59 |
tenplus1 |
just wondering why it's updating it if it wasn't already on system :P |
| 13:59 |
tenplus1 |
unless it's a dependency on something you have already |
| 14:00 |
Krock |
*shrug* |
| 14:00 |
tenplus1 |
heh... it's all good |
| 14:00 |
Krock |
downloading with 1.7 floppies per second |
| 14:01 |
tenplus1 |
lol, that fast huh :P ehehe |
| 14:10 |
rdococ |
I have to keep my internet extremely slow otherwise it fills my floppies faster than I can swap them out |
| 14:10 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe, you need Amiga sfs: format, can get 1.92mb per floppy... every little helps :D |
| 14:14 |
rdococ |
Minetest alone takes up 247.8 MB, which equates to 150 or so floppies |
| 14:15 |
tenplus1 |
oof, didnt realise it was that big |
| 14:15 |
rdococ |
"21983 items, totalling 247.8 MB" <- although that also includes mods and modpacks I have, and games and stuff |
| 14:16 |
rdococ |
That's the amount of content in my backport-0.4 build |
| 14:17 |
tenplus1 |
am still using 0.4.16 :P |
| 14:17 |
rdococ |
I use 0.4.17-dev |
| 14:17 |
rdococ |
I also test 0.5.0-dev |
| 14:18 |
rdococ |
well, I mine*test* it :P |
| 14:18 |
* tenplus1 |
still thinks devs should give a minetest-next release for testing |
| 14:18 |
rdococ |
you mean a semi-stable 0.5.0-dev release as like an alpha or beta? |
| 14:18 |
rdococ |
that's actually a good idea |
| 14:19 |
tenplus1 |
same way Opera browser has stable and -next versions run side by side :) so players can test and report bugs better... |
| 14:19 |
tenplus1 |
we need it easy for players to test 0.5x and give feedback |
| 14:22 |
rdococ |
I can't wait for VAEs in 0.7.0 |
| 14:22 |
tenplus1 |
vae's ? |
| 14:23 |
rdococ |
I also can't wait for 0.10.0 when the devs realize that they won't need to rush to 1.0.0 even if they stick with the weird versioning system they have at the moment |
| 14:23 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 14:23 |
rdococ |
I like semantic versioning but I don't consider it a requirement |
| 14:23 |
rdococ |
As long as your versioning system makes sense it is yay |
| 14:24 |
tenplus1 |
I'm eager for 0.5 release so I can start on a new mod base |
| 14:25 |
rdococ |
I can't wait for 0.5.0 |
| 14:25 |
rdococ |
I'm so excited |
| 14:25 |
rdococ |
Finally we can get the humidity and heat of positions without hacks |
| 14:25 |
tenplus1 |
yaay... also new player model with 1.7 and 1.8 skins working |
| 14:26 |
rdococ |
1.7 and 1.8? |
| 14:26 |
rdococ |
I don't think Minetest is there yet :P |
| 14:26 |
tenplus1 |
wasnt the player model revamped to handle dual layer textures ? |
| 14:26 |
rdococ |
oh... you mean YouKnowWhatâ„¢ |
| 14:26 |
tenplus1 |
yeh... 1.7 single layer and 1.8 dual layer |
| 14:26 |
rdococ |
I did like their overlay layer thing |
| 14:28 |
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| 14:28 |
tenplus1 |
hi fussel |
| 14:28 |
rdococ |
hi IhrFussel |
| 14:28 |
rdococ |
aw |
| 14:29 |
IhrFussel |
Hi there...sometimes I wonder if that is some kind of script he's running :P |
| 14:29 |
rdococ |
Windows 11 adds super spyware that lets all governments see your screen in realtime |
| 14:29 |
tenplus1 |
script would have used IhrFussel :P |
| 14:30 |
rdococ |
tenplus1 added a conditional to his script to make it say "hi fussel" if the person joining the channel is IhrFussel |
| 14:30 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 14:30 |
tenplus1 |
did you test latest mob api fussel ? do animals go uphill better now ? |
| 14:31 |
rdococ |
I once saw an animal turn into a chicken |
| 14:31 |
rdococ |
It was surreal |
| 14:31 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 14:31 |
rdococ |
I want to add dirt_with_grass slabs |
| 14:31 |
rdococ |
So that hills look cooler |
| 14:33 |
tenplus1 |
I wonder if you could make connected dirt... different objects to link them when you place a normal grass block :P |
| 14:34 |
rdococ |
connected dirt... |
| 14:34 |
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| 14:34 |
tenplus1 |
that way you use 1 node and it'll connect going downhill etc. |
| 14:36 |
Krock |
oh yes. nothing's better than a semi-upgraded system. GUI differences everywhere |
| 14:37 |
rdococ |
Semi-yays |
| 14:37 |
tenplus1 |
ehheeheh, still happening |
| 14:39 |
IhrFussel |
tenplus1, seems to work better but couldn't test under high load yet |
| 14:39 |
tenplus1 |
I added it to Xanadu with 20 players on and worked okie :) |
| 14:48 |
xerox123 |
gonna try 18.04 in a VM when I get back |
| 14:48 |
rdococ |
yays |
| 14:49 |
tenplus1 |
kewl |
| 14:49 |
tenplus1 |
xubuntu recommended |
| 14:49 |
xerox123 |
iso has gone from 1.4 to 1.8 |
| 14:49 |
xerox123 |
GB* |
| 14:49 |
xerox123 |
intéressant |
| 14:49 |
tenplus1 |
xubu 18.04 is 1.4gb |
| 14:50 |
tenplus1 |
default ubuntu has all the gnome3 crap added |
| 14:50 |
xerox123 |
correction, it was 1.5GB* |
| 14:50 |
xerox123 |
for 16.04.5 |
| 14:50 |
xerox123 |
4* rip typing today |
| 14:51 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 14:51 |
xerox123 |
hmmm, good points, I do prefer xfce4 |
| 14:51 |
xerox123 |
downloading xubuntu instead |
| 14:56 |
Krock |
it's spreading! |
| 14:57 |
rdococ |
Dammit, I'm trying to create a mod which generates grass slabs in the world but ugh |
| 14:59 |
tenplus1 |
rdococ: Stairs Redo has glass slabs |
| 14:59 |
Krock |
^ grass, not glass |
| 14:59 |
tenplus1 |
ahahahaha |
| 15:00 |
* tenplus1 |
goes back to school |
| 15:00 |
Krock |
.. on a sunday? |
| 15:00 |
tenplus1 |
it's wednesday here |
| 15:00 |
Krock |
oh. timezones |
| 15:00 |
tenplus1 |
yup :P |
| 15:01 |
rdococ |
tenplus1 has yays |
| 15:02 |
rdococ |
at the moment they use ABMs to generate the grass slabs |
| 15:03 |
rdococ |
they're meant to just be purely cosmetic (can't be dug or pointed at but can be walked on top of) |
| 15:03 |
Krock |
use LBMs |
| 15:04 |
rdococ |
I tried |
| 15:04 |
rdococ |
they don't seem to work for newly generated terrain |
| 15:04 |
Krock |
or better: use on generate callbacks and register your function after the first globalstep was executed to ensure it's the last one |
| 15:05 |
Krock |
vmanip for the win |
| 15:05 |
rdococ |
ugh |
| 15:05 |
rdococ |
I don't want to have to deal with vmanip |
| 15:05 |
IhrFussel |
The shutdown callbacks are guaranteed to run? I guess only if the shutdown was a proper one and not a lua error/segfault |
| 15:06 |
rdococ |
delicious lua segfaults |
| 15:07 |
IhrFussel |
The doc even mentions it "* **Warning**: If the server terminates abnormally (i.e. crashes), the registered |
| 15:07 |
IhrFussel |
callbacks **will likely not be run**." |
| 15:07 |
Krock |
lua segfault? is OOM a segfault?! |
| 15:08 |
rdococ |
Lua segmentation fault yays |
| 15:08 |
rdococ |
Krock: Serverswap, a server that runs on 1 MB of RAM and tons of swap |
| 15:10 |
Krock |
I hope it's a MicroSD card with at least 128 GiB storage |
| 15:10 |
Krock |
the wear is real |
| 15:10 |
rdococ |
an underclocked raspberry pi |
| 15:11 |
Krock |
but can it run doom? |
| 15:12 |
rdococ |
doom running on a mechanical computer |
| 15:12 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, do you know if the player list is still intact when the shutdown callback runs? |
| 15:13 |
Krock |
IhrFussel, there was recently a change in this behaviour - either to ensure the players are kicked before or all afterwards. I'd have to look it up |
| 15:13 |
IhrFussel |
I mean I hope it runs before any player gets disconnected... it would be kinda pointless otherwise |
| 15:15 |
Krock |
in 0.5.0-dev, the players are kicked before on_shutdown is called. see server.cpp L321 |
| 15:16 |
IhrFussel |
WHY?? There are mods that need to run stuff on players as they disconnect |
| 15:17 |
IhrFussel |
Wait...leaveplayer should be called then |
| 15:17 |
IhrFussel |
Correct? |
| 15:17 |
Krock |
I'd like to finish the upgrade before I do a deeper research. Meanwhile you can check for that line on github and check out the git blame |
| 15:17 |
Krock |
yes, leaveplayer is called for all players before |
| 15:18 |
rdococ |
I am yayed |
| 15:21 |
xerox123 |
somehow I managed to break something by defining my own partition table during installation.... |
| 15:21 |
* xerox123 |
slow claps |
| 15:21 |
xerox123 |
start take 2 |
| 15:21 |
tenplus1 |
erk, what ya add? |
| 15:22 |
rdococ |
Yay for partitioning |
| 15:22 |
tenplus1 |
why does placing a node call after_destruct ???? |
| 15:23 |
xerox123 |
oh, didnt specify a root mountpoint |
| 15:23 |
rubenwardy |
because that's what set_node does |
| 15:23 |
Krock |
because you're destroying air? |
| 15:23 |
rubenwardy |
oh placing |
| 15:23 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
| 15:23 |
tenplus1 |
it's ok, placing apple replaces apple with param2 = 1 |
| 15:23 |
rdococ |
lol, destroying air |
| 15:23 |
rubenwardy |
I need to write a chapter on callback |
| 15:23 |
tenplus1 |
it destructs itself... gah! |
| 15:24 |
xerox123 |
back to smooth rolling! |
| 15:24 |
tenplus1 |
:) what ya runnign now xerox ? |
| 15:24 |
xerox123 |
xubuntu, waiting for the installation |
| 15:24 |
Krock |
they're trying to get the vm for xubuntu 18.04 running I guess |
| 15:24 |
IhrFussel |
I'm downloading Xubuntu 18.04 right now and will install it to my USB stick...then after that installation was safe I will upgrade my current system |
| 15:25 |
rdococ |
xerox123: were you using windows before? |
| 15:25 |
xerox123 |
I'm still using windows |
| 15:25 |
xerox123 |
read what krock said |
| 15:25 |
rdococ |
<Krock> because you're destroying air? |
| 15:25 |
Krock |
IhrFussel, I'm basically doing the same except that I don't do the first step |
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| 15:25 |
xerox123 |
<+Krock> they're trying to get the vm for xubuntu 18.04 running I guess |
| 15:25 |
tenplus1 |
wb paramat |
| 15:25 |
Krock |
hello paramat |
| 15:25 |
rdococ |
woah |
| 15:26 |
rdococ |
I looked really close at my monitor and became one with the pixels for a second |
| 15:26 |
xerox123 |
Ive no intention of moving from windows |
| 15:26 |
xerox123 |
I have* that sounds weird in my dialect |
| 15:26 |
Krock |
xerox123, the solution is called dualboot |
| 15:26 |
* rdococ |
internally cringes |
| 15:26 |
xerox123 |
I'm sure Id fuck that up somehow |
| 15:27 |
IhrFussel |
1.3 GB for 64-bit version...I bet Win 10 ISO is 3+ |
| 15:27 |
Krock |
3+ without the garbage left over from old installation backups |
| 15:27 |
xerox123 |
it's 4Gb I believe |
| 15:28 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, so your upgrade was corrupt? Cause you said the GUI is not fully upgraded |
| 15:28 |
Krock |
so only 500 MiB, xerox123 ? |
| 15:28 |
Krock |
IhrFussel, because the upgrade was not fully done |
| 15:28 |
* rdococ |
becomes a corrupt unicorn |
| 15:28 |
Krock |
it's still ongoing |
| 15:28 |
xerox123 |
500 for what? confused. |
| 15:29 |
IhrFussel |
Huh? Can you use the system while upgrading? |
| 15:29 |
Krock |
xerox123, 1 Gb = 1/8 GB |
| 15:29 |
shivajiva |
is it possible to make a tool that cannot be dropped? |
| 15:29 |
Krock |
ofc you can |
| 15:29 |
xerox123 |
I'm sure you know what I meant |
| 15:29 |
Krock |
shivajiva, yes. overwrite core.drop_item() |
| 15:29 |
tenplus1 |
hi shiva |
| 15:30 |
shivajiva |
thanks Krock, hi tenplus :) |
| 15:30 |
Krock |
!next |
| 15:30 |
MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
| 15:30 |
Krock |
IhrFussel, however, firefox sometimes had 10s long 100% CPU usage peaks for some reason |
| 15:32 |
Krock |
jeeks.. got to re-compile Minetest again |
| 15:32 |
xerox123 |
also, I'm not the only one that uses this computer, so I don't know happy everyone else will be if I dualboot |
| 15:34 |
Krock |
s/w h/w how h/ |
| 15:35 |
Krock |
brb wish me luck rebooting |
| 15:36 |
* rdococ |
disinfects this channel from Winblozeâ„¢ |
| 15:37 |
tenplus1 |
Shara: you around ? |
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| 15:38 |
xerox123 |
yay krock is still working |
| 15:38 |
Krock |
ree |
| 15:38 |
tenplus1 |
o.O w00t! 18.04 ready ? |
| 15:38 |
Krock |
OS: Ubuntu 18.04 bionic |
| 15:39 |
tenplus1 |
schweeeeet |
| 15:39 |
IhrFussel |
Congratz^^ my ISO is installing on stick now |
| 15:40 |
xerox123 |
Client: HexChat 2.14.1 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6400 CPU @ 2.70GHz (2.71GHz) • Memory: 7.9 GiB Total (930.6 MiB Free) • Storage: 209.7 GiB / 917.8 GiB (708.1 GiB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GT 730 • Uptime: 4h 35m 43s |
| 15:40 |
xerox123 |
Ill miss ShareX too much on ubuntu |
| 15:42 |
* xerox123 |
tries out Libre Office |
| 15:44 |
rdococ |
I feel like dying again |
| 15:44 |
rdococ |
I hate mood swings |
| 15:44 |
rdococ |
I don't know if my feelings are even real |
| 15:45 |
tenplus1 |
yay to libreoffice 6, nay to dying before playing with libreoffice 6 |
| 15:45 |
IhrFussel |
"No new releases found." what?? |
| 15:45 |
rubenwardy |
s-d |
| 15:45 |
rubenwardy |
you need -d |
| 15:45 |
tenplus1 |
wait, are you installing from flash drive or using "sudo update-manager -d" |
| 15:46 |
rubenwardy |
do-release-upgrade -d |
| 15:46 |
IhrFussel |
Why -d when it's released oficially? |
| 15:46 |
rubenwardy |
update-manager for GUI |
| 15:46 |
rubenwardy |
no idea |
| 15:46 |
rubenwardy |
-d, --devel-release If using the latest supported release, upgrade to the |
| 15:46 |
rubenwardy |
development release |
| 15:46 |
xerox123 |
because it's probably not safe to until there's been some creases ironed out |
| 15:46 |
rubenwardy |
maybe it takes a while for it to propagate? |
| 15:46 |
xerox123 |
I saw something in ubuntu-release-party |
| 15:46 |
rubenwardy |
maybe the version you on is newer if you're on dev, idk |
| 15:47 |
rubenwardy |
is 17.10 > 18.04? |
| 15:47 |
rubenwardy |
wouldn't make sense to be |
| 15:47 |
IhrFussel |
I'm on 16.04 and want to upgrade to 18.04 |
| 15:47 |
xerox123 |
<phil42> the notifications don't start until 18.04.1 |
| 15:47 |
xerox123 |
that ^ |
| 15:47 |
rubenwardy |
ah, interesting |
| 15:47 |
rubenwardy |
well, use -d |
| 15:47 |
rubenwardy |
I guess they don't want people to mass upgrade until the first path |
| 15:48 |
rubenwardy |
*patch |
| 15:48 |
IhrFussel |
"(appstreamcli:6504): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_strchomp: assertion 'string != NULL' failed" << nothing to worry about? |
| 15:49 |
xerox123 |
[06:36:23] <enyc> malwar3hun73r: but 16.04.x users will be offered 18.04.1 when it comes out later in july |
| 15:49 |
xerox123 |
attendez juillet |
| 15:49 |
Krock |
IhrFussel, continue. I also had some warnings there |
| 15:50 |
rdococ |
warning! yay! |
| 15:50 |
Krock |
so we're going to wait for Romeo |
| 15:50 |
xerox123 |
that would be Juliet |
| 15:51 |
IhrFussel |
Alright...in non-ISO format it seems to be 1.9 GB, cause that's what it downloads now..or does that depend on the software installed? |
| 15:51 |
rdococ |
Mercury would be a cool mod, you would use it to craft thermometers |
| 15:51 |
xerox123 |
isn't ISO an archive type? |
| 15:52 |
Krock |
it is |
| 15:52 |
rdococ |
and if you touch a mercury salt you instantly die :P |
| 15:53 |
xerox123 |
gonna install arc and stuff |
| 15:53 |
IhrFussel |
2 GB take ~ 20 minutes with my connection... I'm glad that I don't play these huge games (50+ GB) |
| 15:53 |
rdococ |
Minetest is actually really small for a game nowadays |
| 15:54 |
rdococ |
although then again, it *is* an engine |
| 15:54 |
rdococ |
or game/game engine hybrid depending on how you look at it |
| 15:54 |
rdococ |
I think |
| 15:54 |
IhrFussel |
MT is even small as an app on the play store...I think it's 20 or 30 MB |
| 15:55 |
IhrFussel |
Most games I try on my phone are 50+ MB ... and I *hate* it when I start the game and suddenly "We need to download 500 MB now" |
| 15:55 |
rdococ |
my minetest/backport-0.4 folder is 258.7 MB, but I've compiled it and downloaded mods |
| 15:56 |
IhrFussel |
It#s updating 0ad now...I thought it's just installing Xubun tu 18.04 |
| 15:57 |
* xerox123 |
checks r/unixporn |
| 15:57 |
IhrFussel |
So it seems to indeed attempt to upgrade all my installed software |
| 15:59 |
tenplus1 |
and at the end it'll mark the packages you no longer need for removal :P |
| 16:00 |
rdococ |
Delicious |
| 16:04 |
rdococ |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron(III)_oxide |
| 16:04 |
rdococ |
Ooh, I could revisit my brainfuck interpreter mod idea, using a magnetic tape |
| 16:07 |
rdococ |
tenplus1: Yay |
| 16:07 |
tenplus1 |
lolol |
| 16:08 |
* tenplus1 |
has successfully regrown fruit on mt tree's |
| 16:08 |
rdococ |
Also cool would be an alchemy mod - you would be able to use it to transmute mercury and sulfur to other metals |
| 16:08 |
tenplus1 |
you woudl need some mystical force to help do that |
| 16:09 |
rdococ |
it's minetest, anything is possible unless you want metadata-dependent textures |
| 16:10 |
rdococ |
the param1/2 system should be expanded to be able to handle indefinite amounts of (maybe only numerical?) data |
| 16:10 |
tenplus1 |
Q. how long should a tree take before it regrows fruit ? |
| 16:10 |
tenplus1 |
in mt terms |
| 16:11 |
rdococ |
403 years |
| 16:11 |
tenplus1 |
wow, were gonna end up growing raisins and prunes :P |
| 16:11 |
rdococ |
and it should grow golden apples that make you immortal |
| 16:11 |
rdococ |
and obsidian apples that break your teeth |
| 16:12 |
tenplus1 |
eheheh |
| 16:13 |
rdococ |
or maybe an "ore extraction" mod that forces you to use chemistry to extract metals from their ores |
| 16:13 |
IhrFussel |
Wait...upgrading means I will stay on 4.0.0 kernel...correct? |
| 16:13 |
tenplus1 |
18.04 has the 4.15.3 kernel |
| 16:14 |
IhrFussel |
So the linux kernel will be replaced too on upgrade? |
| 16:14 |
tenplus1 |
old kernel will remain just incase, but you will had the new one installed |
| 16:14 |
rdococ |
you have 4.0.0? O_O |
| 16:14 |
xerox123 |
dayum |
| 16:14 |
IhrFussel |
Xubuntu 16.04 uses 4.0.0 |
| 16:14 |
rdococ |
I remember when I had 3.16.x |
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| 16:15 |
tenplus1 |
hi aerozoic |
| 16:16 |
aerozoic |
hi ten+1 |
| 16:19 |
tenplus1 |
seriously tho, how long should it take for tree to regrow fruit (apple, banana, orange) ? |
| 16:19 |
aerozoic |
One day/night cycle? |
| 16:19 |
tenplus1 |
so for mt 20 mins ? |
| 16:20 |
rdococ |
21 minutes, and 32.443 seconds |
| 16:20 |
aerozoic |
well the cycle length is determined by the .conf setting |
| 16:20 |
rdococ |
although I'm not sure any mod actually takes that into account |
| 16:20 |
tenplus1 |
will set to random number between 20 and 30 mins :D |
| 16:22 |
rdococ |
Delicious yayhoppers |
| 16:22 |
aerozoic |
tenplus1, ur adding banna and orange trees to farming? |
| 16:23 |
tenplus1 |
they are already in Ethereal mod :) |
| 16:23 |
tenplus1 |
am just making a tiny mod to regrow the fruit on tree's |
| 16:23 |
aerozoic |
what about servers that don't use ethereal? |
| 16:23 |
rdococ |
I want to create some kind of chemistry mod but idk what to do with it |
| 16:24 |
xerox123 |
incase you're into 'ricing' your desktop, consider 'tilda'. it's a terminal built into your desktop with a ton of customisation options |
| 16:24 |
xerox123 |
http://0x0.st/sQ7L.png |
| 16:25 |
tenplus1 |
aerozoic: moretree's I suppose :P |
| 16:26 |
xerox123 |
or even make it completely transparent: http://0x0.st/sQ7p.png |
| 16:26 |
tenplus1 |
nice |
| 16:27 |
rdococ |
I find hoppers much nicer to work with than pipeworks |
| 16:28 |
rdococ |
I like how input and output are determined by gravity, for example |
| 16:28 |
tenplus1 |
did you see new Void Hopper ? |
| 16:29 |
rdococ |
yes, it's awesome |
| 16:29 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 16:29 |
rdococ |
although, can someone use a void hopper to add items to your locked chest? :P |
| 16:29 |
tenplus1 |
no |
| 16:30 |
tenplus1 |
checks protection before allowing anyone to add stuff |
| 16:30 |
rdococ |
ah. even if that was possible it'd still be better than taking items away, I suppose |
| 16:30 |
tenplus1 |
you could bung garbage into someones hopper machine that say makes wine, stopping the process... would be nasty |
| 16:31 |
tenplus1 |
weird thing was I tested void hopper and it kept working well over 20 blocks away so long as original block was still loaded... |
| 16:31 |
rdococ |
!true || !false |
| 16:31 |
tenplus1 |
once it unloads it stops |
| 16:31 |
rdococ |
can void hopper move items to unloaded mapblocks? |
| 16:32 |
tenplus1 |
nope, has to be loaded |
| 16:32 |
rdococ |
delicious world anchors |
| 16:32 |
tenplus1 |
but, you could connect hopper to hopper so that it passes them a few blocks apart |
| 16:32 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 16:33 |
tenplus1 |
it saves adding a ton of pipes between them and having it move 1 node each second... |
| 16:33 |
tenplus1 |
so mob grinders or egg collectors could transfer eggs to chest up top :P |
| 16:35 |
tenplus1 |
https://github.com/tenplus1/regrow |
| 16:40 |
Krock |
interestingly the new Minetest build is detected as a shared library, whereas the old 16.04 builds are executables |
| 16:40 |
tenplus1 |
hrm... |
| 16:41 |
tenplus1 |
why does minetest installed from repo require python2 as dependency tho |
| 16:41 |
Krock |
it's a mystery |
| 16:41 |
rdococ |
python api confirmed |
| 16:41 |
* tenplus1 |
hates py2 and wonders why py3 isnt used as default |
| 16:42 |
rdococ |
I come from the year 2050 where Minetest 0.7.0 adds a python4 modding API |
| 16:43 |
Krock |
I think you meant JavaScript API |
| 16:43 |
rdococ |
Brainfuck API |
| 16:43 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 16:44 |
rdococ |
VAEs were added in 0.57.0-beta1 - although 0.57.0 was renamed to 1.0.0 before its release |
| 16:58 |
paramat |
hmm 20-30 mins is too short for fruit regrow, consider it takes a year IRL |
| 16:58 |
tenplus1 |
lol, talking mt tree's here... having a player wait 20-30 mins may be worthwhile ;D |
| 16:59 |
IhrFussel |
Still installing packages... is it normal that dpkg often complains about no file found? |
| 17:06 |
tenplus1 |
dont worry about that |
| 17:06 |
tenplus1 |
you get a few errors for firmware that's not installed on your setup |
| 17:07 |
tenplus1 |
Teleport Potion updated, no longer tp's sign text and itemframe items :P |
| 17:07 |
rdococ |
lol |
| 17:08 |
tenplus1 |
silly bugs ehehe :) |
| 17:08 |
rdococ |
wasn't there a mod that added item frames that didn't use entities? |
| 17:08 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, but you gotta register a new node for every item |
| 17:08 |
rdococ |
which is why we need metadata defined node properties asap |
| 17:10 |
tenplus1 |
http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/730195/85037597.jpg noms anyone |
| 17:10 |
paramat |
well i'm considering that there will be many fruit trees, so you'll essentially get a fruit every few minutes. players will tend to grow multiple fruit trees |
| 17:10 |
xerox123 |
cholesterol in a biteâ„¢ |
| 17:11 |
tenplus1 |
eehehe |
| 17:14 |
IhrFussel |
I never saw so many "Setting up" lines in a row before |
| 17:16 |
tenplus1 |
once packages are installed it runs through each to make sure necessary settings are changed also :) |
| 17:16 |
tenplus1 |
gotta love linux updates... they work |
| 17:17 |
IhrFussel |
Oops correction: Xubuntu 16.04 uses 4.4.0 not 4.0.0 |
| 17:18 |
IhrFussel |
Yeah I know but it was like 200 lines of it |
| 17:20 |
IhrFussel |
It also told me during the process that I need to run this command after the upgrade manually "install-docs --install-changed" |
| 17:21 |
tenplus1 |
never ran that, not one for reading docs |
| 17:23 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 17:33 |
tenplus1 |
I think fonts and icon packs should work like mt textures... have a base font/icon set and any new one's with missing icons or characters falls back to the base to display |
| 17:33 |
tenplus1 |
great for unicode |
| 17:38 |
IhrFussel |
Is there an app that seriously gives player the default name "Ficker"? |
| 17:38 |
IhrFussel |
That means fucker in German |
| 17:38 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
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| 17:39 |
tenplus1 |
hi tumeninodes |
| 17:40 |
IhrFussel |
Okay time to restart...see you in a few minutes (I hope) |
| 17:40 |
tenplus1 |
good luck |
| 17:40 |
tumeninodes |
howdy tenplus1 |
| 17:40 |
tenplus1 |
o//// |
| 17:41 |
tumeninodes |
you're gonna hurt yourself waving that hard :P |
| 17:41 |
tenplus1 |
trying to fly :P |
| 17:41 |
tumeninodes |
in circles? 0_o |
| 17:41 |
tenplus1 |
sadly yes :P |
| 17:41 |
tumeninodes |
who has more detailed info related to: |
| 17:42 |
tumeninodes |
Engine-internal (do not use in mods) |
| 17:42 |
tumeninodes |
[crack:N:P / [cracko:N:P |
| 17:42 |
tumeninodes |
Adds a cracking texture on top of the base image, scaled by xP (from 0 to 9) in each dimension. [crack blits the crack texture on top of the base image with alpha blending. [cracko overlays it instead (the crack texture's color is interpolated with the base image's according to its alpha value if the base pixel is fully opaque; otherwise the base pixel is left unmodified). N is the number of frames in the base image |
| 17:42 |
tumeninodes |
(1 if not animated). |
| 17:42 |
tenplus1 |
? |
| 17:42 |
tumeninodes |
also, I think "blits" is supposed to be "builds"? (possibly) |
| 17:43 |
tumeninodes |
yeh, interesting turn of events today, has me checking... cracks |
| 17:43 |
tenplus1 |
dont step on 'em tho... break your momma's back |
| 17:44 |
tumeninodes |
Oh..., well that explains it |
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| 17:45 |
tenplus1 |
wb fussel, how's it looking ? |
| 17:45 |
IhrFussel |
CURL_OPENSSL_3 not found ... MT won't start |
| 17:46 |
tumeninodes |
uh oh |
| 17:46 |
tenplus1 |
re-install minetest from repo |
| 17:48 |
IhrFussel |
still the same |
| 17:49 |
rdococ |
I'm modifying my stack_max mod |
| 17:49 |
tenplus1 |
> sudo apt-get remove minetest |
| 17:50 |
tenplus1 |
and then > sudo apt-get install minetest |
| 17:50 |
tenplus1 |
defo works, am using it here |
| 17:50 |
IhrFussel |
i did purge then install |
| 17:51 |
tenplus1 |
weird,,, > sudo apt-get reinstall curl |
| 17:52 |
rdococ |
tenplus1: at the end of the hopper mod's README is "Lucky Blocks: 2" |
| 17:53 |
IhrFussel |
nope :/ |
| 17:53 |
rdococ |
what does that mean? can you get hoppers from minetest lucky blocks if both mods are installed? |
| 17:53 |
tenplus1 |
yes... all my mods show how many lucky blocks are added when it's running :0 |
| 17:54 |
tenplus1 |
farming redo has many :P |
| 17:54 |
rdococ |
ah |
| 17:55 |
IhrFussel |
curl wasn't even installed it seems...but even after installing same error |
| 17:55 |
rdococ |
wow, void hopper requires diamond and mese block |
| 17:55 |
sfan5 |
tumeninodes: no, "blit" is correct in the context of that documentation |
| 17:55 |
tenplus1 |
if teleport potion mod active then they are replaced with tp potions :) |
| 17:55 |
sfan5 |
IhrFussel: recompile your minetest |
| 17:55 |
sfan5 |
it's linked to an outdated version of libcurl you no longer have |
| 17:55 |
tenplus1 |
hi sfan |
| 17:57 |
rubenwardy |
tumeninodes: blit means copy pixel onto, basically |
| 17:57 |
rubenwardy |
it probably shouldn't use that word anyway |
| 17:57 |
rubenwardy |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_blit |
| 17:58 |
rdococ |
realistic teleportation would require an internet signal and some quantum shenanigans |
| 17:58 |
rdococ |
s/internet/some kind of/ |
| 17:58 |
tenplus1 |
that's why it costs a diamond and mese block... expensive stuff to do :) |
| 17:59 |
rubenwardy |
IhrFussel: apt install curl-dev |
| 17:59 |
rubenwardy |
or libcurl-dev |
| 17:59 |
rubenwardy |
or libcurl |
| 17:59 |
rubenwardy |
just install the lib/dev version of curl |
| 18:00 |
tumeninodes |
heh, well at least I learned a new word today :D thanks guys |
| 18:01 |
tenplus1 |
Amiga has blitter chip :D w00t! |
| 18:01 |
IhrFussel |
i'm trying to recompile first |
| 18:02 |
tumeninodes |
and, is there any further info on crack and cracko? any examples of them in use-in code? |
| 18:02 |
tumeninodes |
shoot forgot I left water boiling 0_o be back in a few |
| 18:06 |
rdococ |
how would I provide a description for mod settings? |
| 18:07 |
rdococ |
aj |
| 18:07 |
tenplus1 |
a setting in .conf ? |
| 18:07 |
Krock |
IhrFussel, same here. compiling Minetest new solved it :) |
| 18:07 |
rdococ |
nvm |
| 18:09 |
Krock |
rdococ, settingtypes.txt |
| 18:10 |
rdococ |
Krock: I figured it out |
| 18:10 |
tenplus1 |
hehe, I added those to my mods :) they work well |
| 18:12 |
rdococ |
I'm modifying my stack_max mod which lets you change the default stack_max value, although it's a bit hacky |
| 18:12 |
tenplus1 |
does it override items ? |
| 18:12 |
IhrFussel |
seems to work now |
| 18:12 |
rdococ |
Yes, and it also modifies register_* functions |
| 18:12 |
tenplus1 |
glad to hear fussel :) |
| 18:14 |
tenplus1 |
if it helps any the mt downloads page always seems to have latest build already built for ubuntu/mint :) |
| 18:23 |
rdococ |
Troll: use stack_max mod to set the default stack max to 1 |
| 18:24 |
tenplus1 |
mwhehehe |
| 18:25 |
rdococ |
Hm, should the default default stack maximum be 100 or 72? |
| 18:25 |
rdococ |
Both are good choices... 100 is easier to do mental calculations with but 72 is more easily divisible |
| 18:25 |
tenplus1 |
99 all the way |
| 18:25 |
rdococ |
Ew, 99 |
| 18:25 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 18:25 |
Krock |
rdococ, 99 or anything which can be divided by 2,4 and 9 |
| 18:25 |
rdococ |
Krock: 72 is divisible by 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, and 9 |
| 18:25 |
rdococ |
and 18 and 36 |
| 18:26 |
Krock |
but it's a small stack |
| 18:26 |
rdococ |
If you want larger then 120 is highly composite |
| 18:26 |
Krock |
how about 999 |
| 18:26 |
rubenwardy |
360 |
| 18:26 |
rdococ |
Krock: 65535 |
| 18:26 |
rubenwardy |
divides well |
| 18:27 |
rdococ |
rubenwardy: that's a bit big |
| 18:27 |
Krock |
use radians. use 2*PI |
| 18:27 |
rubenwardy |
XD |
| 18:27 |
rdococ |
lol |
| 18:27 |
rubenwardy |
maybe even 720 |
| 18:27 |
rubenwardy |
extra division there |
| 18:27 |
rubenwardy |
hell, |
| 18:27 |
rdococ |
well, with my mod you could set it to basically any value |
| 18:27 |
rdococ |
as long as it's a positive integer and below 65536 |
| 18:27 |
rubenwardy |
10800 |
| 18:27 |
Krock |
rdococ, please test with 65536 |
| 18:27 |
rdococ |
Krock: will do |
| 18:28 |
rdococ |
Unless it was changed recently, trying to give yourself 65536 either resulted in an error or gave you 0 |
| 18:28 |
rdococ |
although I think /give now abides by the stack maximum |
| 18:29 |
Krock |
yes, /give foo:bar -1 will now fill your inventory entirely |
| 18:29 |
rdococ |
Krock: Trying out 65536 results in stacks of 65535 |
| 18:29 |
tenplus1 |
maybe stack size should depend on the item in question... obsidian limited to say 45, sticks to 120 etc |
| 18:29 |
rdococ |
tenplus1: that's outside the scope of my mod, but you could do that |
| 18:29 |
Krock |
water buckets to 1 |
| 18:29 |
rdococ |
or I could make another mod that does it |
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| 18:30 |
tenplus1 |
wb |
| 18:31 |
rdococ |
I'm going to change the default default to 120 as it's highly composite and easier to do mental calculations with than 72 |
| 18:32 |
CWz |
why does combining fire_fire.1 2 and 3 and than slowing it down with audacity using an addon make it sound like there is demonic whispering? |
| 18:32 |
tenplus1 |
lol CWz.... also hi |
| 18:32 |
CWz |
hi |
| 18:39 |
rdococ |
https://github.com/rdococ/stack_max - I also switched to MIT license |
| 18:39 |
tenplus1 |
yay |
| 18:40 |
Krock |
rdococ, creating new "minetest." function isn't exactly the right way to do it |
| 18:40 |
rdococ |
Krock: ? |
| 18:41 |
rdococ |
do you think I should remove it and stick with the "stack_max." function? |
| 18:42 |
Krock |
the minetest/core table belongs to the (obviously) core functions, so yes. use the own table |
| 18:42 |
rdococ |
The mod works entirely by modifying several core functions |
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| 19:15 |
IhrFussel |
HexChat is suddenly German...I mean the channel messages (join/leave) |
| 19:17 |
tenplus1 |
check your language settings |
| 19:21 |
Krock |
make it so it's in klingon |
| 19:21 |
tenplus1 |
or scottish |
| 19:22 |
tenplus1 |
dae yi want to shut doon yer pc ? |
| 19:24 |
rdococ |
klingonâ„¢ |
| 19:27 |
IhrFussel |
No I mean I prefer German, but I wonder why it was English before the upgrade |
| 19:28 |
rdococ |
try klingon, you could prefer it more |
| 19:29 |
Sokomine |
german translations of english texts and computer terms often sound pretty odd. in the past they required re-translation in order to understand what was meant |
| 19:31 |
rdococ |
ah, linguistics |
| 19:32 |
Sokomine |
as far as stack size is concerned...larger stacks are usually more helpful. there are some servers that increase stack size for cobble and other disposable items to 499 or so. very useful. crafting...works better with what unified_inventory provides as help |
| 19:33 |
tenplus1 |
hi sokomine |
| 19:33 |
Sokomine |
rdococ: it was very confusing to get 1000 or so blocks requested with /giveme as individual stacks. took some time to clean up my inventory again |
| 19:34 |
Sokomine |
hi ten |
| 19:34 |
rdococ |
Sokomine: I do think that /give shouldn't have been changed to obey the stack maximum |
| 19:34 |
rdococ |
At least if it would result in the number of item slots being used up beyond some kind of threshold e.g. 5 slots maximum |
| 19:34 |
Sokomine |
yes, that was rather confusing. i liked the old behaviour far better. the new very strict handling is severely annoying |
| 19:35 |
rdococ |
(so /give rdococ 198 would give me two stacks of 99 but, say, /give rdococ 65535 would give me one stack of 65535) |
| 19:35 |
Sokomine |
it started with larger stacks behaving very strangely and trying too hard to follow real stack size limit. that's not very convenient in a more creative setting |
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| 19:37 |
tenplus1 |
wb red |
| 19:37 |
* tenplus1 |
sets stack size to 999 |
| 19:37 |
rdococ |
I remember trying to interact with an oversized stack in the past, and all of the extra items on the stack just vanished |
| 19:37 |
rdococ |
it was very odd and I can't remember the commit number or version |
| 19:37 |
rdococ |
I recommend highly composite numbers such as 120 |
| 19:38 |
rdococ |
the closest highly composite number to 999 is 840 |
| 19:39 |
rdococ |
and the highest highly composite number below 65535 is 55440, but I doubt it'd matter as much when your stacks can get larger than your inventory |
| 19:39 |
Sokomine |
the normal stack max works pretty well in practice. servers that increase the stack max of cobble are treating their users well. i don't think more action is required regarding stack size. apart from perhaps what arises from recent changes |
| 19:39 |
Sokomine |
but that won't affect players which are not working in creative or semi-creative mode anyway |
| 19:40 |
rdococ |
I would like to see a per-inv-list stack size #7229 |
| 19:40 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7229 -- Per-Inventory List Max Stack Size |
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| 19:56 |
tenplus1 |
wb rudolf |
| 19:56 |
rud0lf |
thx |
| 19:57 |
rud0lf |
just updating my vps |
| 19:58 |
rdococ |
rud0lf the grene eyed unicorn |
| 20:04 |
rdococ |
I'm switching the default back to 72 as it's divisible by 9 |
| 20:11 |
rdococ |
Or 100 |
| 20:23 |
tenplus1 |
nite folks o/// |
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| 22:41 |
IhrFussel |
How do I find out the exact amount of days my world exists since? Game Time seems to not make much sense...it doesn't go up when the server is offline correct? |
| 22:45 |
IhrFussel |
According to "game time" my world exists since May 14 2016 ... but that can't be true...I think it was 4th or 8th May 2016 when it went online |
| 22:51 |
rdococ |
it probably doesn't go up when the server is offline |
| 22:51 |
rdococ |
not sure what you mean by game time, though... do you mean the day/night cycle? |
| 22:56 |
IhrFussel |
No, game_time is a line in env_meta.txt |
| 22:56 |
IhrFussel |
But it's not accurate since, like you just said, it most likely oesn't increase during down time |
| 22:57 |
IhrFussel |
doesn't* |
| 23:00 |
rubenwardy |
it shouldn't increase during the time it's offline |
| 23:00 |
rubenwardy |
it's the game_time |
| 23:00 |
rubenwardy |
not server_age |
| 23:01 |
IhrFussel |
It says "age" in the server list though |
| 23:02 |
IhrFussel |
But only 6 days downtime in 2 years is rather impressive I'd say |
| 23:11 |
xerox123_ |
Very heavy rain and strong winds forecast in East England :( |
| 23:12 |
xerox123_ |
Have to walk through it tomorrow to get to school |
| 23:14 |
rdococ |
I hate being at school |
| 23:15 |
rdococ |
a bunch of people trying to blackmail you into performing various forms of boring paperwork while you're forced to remain inside the premises |
| 23:15 |
rdococ |
and most of the time will be blackmailled to remain in the room they want you to be in unless you need the toilet |
| 23:15 |
Fixer |
schools always sucked |
| 23:16 |
rdococ |
I don't understand why they are the way they are, but at the same time I see flat-earthers and other people that are even dumber than I thought possible |
| 23:17 |
rdococ |
I wonder if it was because they dropped out of school before learning about such things as earth's shape and orbit? if so then that's a pretty early time to drop out |
| 23:17 |
Fixer |
schools is world-wide problem with deep issues that are not solveable easily |
| 23:17 |
Fixer |
damn, my english suck |
| 23:17 |
Fixer |
s |
| 23:17 |
Fixer |
problem is how to make kids interested in school |
| 23:18 |
Fixer |
and school is just a prison with learning tbh |
| 23:18 |
Fixer |
boring and mostly useless |
| 23:18 |
Fixer |
they teach toooons of stuff, facts, dates, logarithms etc, without explaining why it is needed at all |
| 23:19 |
Fixer |
how it can help in daily life, etc |
| 23:19 |
rdococ |
although... my situation is kind of unique compared to most kids: having HFA/AS means that I go to a "special needs" school which doesn't even teach most of the mathematical stuff I had to teach myself - algebra, trigonometry, logarithms, etc. |
| 23:19 |
Fixer |
i remember some serious math/trig, it is made in typical way that does not show you how to apply it in real life, it is really math geeky |
| 23:19 |
rdococ |
and on some occasions, in my class the teaching staff keep reminding people that they should use "capital letters"... I'm in high school and people don't know capital letters... |
| 23:20 |
rdococ |
I mean, they aren't even necessary to understand a sentence, I only use them for "I" because lowercase "i" on its own bugs me |
| 23:20 |
Fixer |
basic math + basic trig is all you need |
| 23:20 |
Fixer |
and percents |
| 23:20 |
rdococ |
although I am much more used to it now, lowercase "i" used to bug me a lot |
| 23:20 |
Fixer |
financial related stuff is important |
| 23:20 |
Fixer |
to calculate your debts, etc |
| 23:20 |
rdococ |
Fixer: when I self-learned algebra and trigonometry I found it to be quite interesting |
| 23:22 |
rdococ |
I even, to an extent, understand the ideas behind basic calculus (integral and derivative) (I haven't memorized any rules but I understand the concept) |
| 23:23 |
rdococ |
although the 'rules' that people are supposed to 'memorize' are themselves interesting |
| 23:23 |
rdococ |
I honestly think of school as not only a huge time-suck but the primary demotivator in my life |
| 23:24 |
rdococ |
I don't feel the urge to go outside because of my limited time away from that place |
| 23:25 |
rdococ |
It's having unhealthy effects on my life and the teaching staff have the gall to blame me for it |
| 23:25 |
xerox123_ |
You spend more than half a day at school? O_o |
| 23:25 |
rdococ |
no? |
| 23:25 |
rdococ |
half a day is a long time per day, xerox123_ - in fact, it's half of it |
| 23:26 |
xerox123_ |
You made it sound like you have to spend an entire day there and only get weekends off |
| 23:26 |
xerox123_ |
But anyways carry on :p |
| 23:26 |
rdococ |
If I had to spend an entire day there every day and only got weekends off I would have killed myself |
| 23:26 |
rdococ |
I'm being entirely serious |
| 23:27 |
rdococ |
(although I don't need sympathy for it, it's good that I don't spend that much time there and I'm doing okay now) |
| 23:28 |
rdococ |
School means that I stay up all night so that I can maximize every moment outside of school |
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| 23:29 |
rdococ |
School is currently the reason as to my life is somewhat of a wreck now. I can barely find the motivation to get out of bed unless I need the toilet. |
| 23:30 |
rdococ |
I need serious psychological help but I don't trust anyone - if they're anything like teaching staff at my school they will just make me feel bad for feeling bad |
| 23:30 |
rdococ |
although the fact that I am self-aware might help things a little |
| 23:31 |
rdococ |
I've had a teacher/ing staff yell to my face that I don't have empathy |
| 23:31 |
rdococ |
I definitely have empathy, just not for people that treat me as less than a human being |
| 23:32 |
IhrFussel |
The command /deleteblocks resets the area to its original generated state? Or replaces the mapblock with air? |
| 23:32 |
rdococ |
Or others, for that matter |
| 23:32 |
xerox123_ |
Resets the area |
| 23:33 |
rdococ |
YKW doesn't use cubic chunks unless you have a mod, and it doesn't have an official mod API either |
| 23:33 |
xerox123_ |
I'm assuming they mean worldedit |
| 23:34 |
rdococ |
xerox123_: I checked, I don't think it's a WE command |
| 23:34 |
xerox123_ |
//deleteblocks is a worldedit command |
| 23:34 |
rdococ |
My point was that /deleteblocks is also a command |
| 23:35 |
xerox123_ |
Oh |
| 23:35 |
xerox123_ |
Um, well this might go badly... |
| 23:35 |
rdococ |
I got a lua error from trying to delete a mapblock with an item entity in it |
| 23:36 |
xerox123_ |
The day clorox123 almost nuked a serverâ„¢ |
| 23:36 |
rdococ |
lol |
| 23:36 |
rdococ |
Looks like it was trying to get a node and tried to index it but it was nil |
| 23:36 |
rdococ |
Upon rejoining, though, the mapblock was indeed reset |
| 23:36 |
* xerox123_ |
is trying to figure out how to explain freenode live to his parents |
| 23:37 |
rdococ |
Hm, //deleteblocks is used without parameters but if /deleteblocks is used w/o parameters then it complains about invalid parameters |
| 23:39 |
Fixer |
high school hours is almost like work |
| 23:40 |
Fixer |
with very agressive and frequent testing, annoying as well |
| 23:54 |
IhrFussel |
I'm talking about non-WE /deleteblocks |
| 23:55 |
IhrFussel |
Like /deleteblocks here 10 |
