Time Nick Message 00:03 longerstaff13-m Goodnight everyone o/ 06:17 sofar "GET /.git/config HTTP/1.1" 301 185 "-" "NYU Internet Census (https://scan.lol; 06:17 sofar "GET /.ssh/id_rsa HTTP/1.1" 301 185 "-" "NYU Internet Census (https://scan 06:17 sofar take a guess what country that is originating from 06:34 rud0lf didn't know document root is /home/sofar 06:39 Peppy hi 06:41 * Peppy vs translations. Round 4 09:55 sfan5 sofar: russia 09:55 sfan5 without cheating I'd probably guess united states 10:39 longerstaff13-m It's quiet for a Monday morning o.O 10:46 Shara Hello all :) 11:12 longerstaff13 good afternoon Shara :) 11:48 longerstaff13 XD 11:49 rubenwardy Yeah 12:16 nerzhul VM in a VM exists since years yes :) 12:16 rubenwardy did it yearss ago 12:19 longerstaff13 o/ aerozoic 12:19 aerozoic hi longerstaff13 12:27 ThomasMonroe o/ aerozoic :) 12:28 aerozoic hey ThomasMonroe how's it goin? 12:28 ThomasMonroe good :D 12:35 longerstaff13 hey ThomasMonroe 12:36 Mr_Pardison question about textures: they should be 64x64, right? 12:36 rubenwardy no, at least 256x256 12:36 rubenwardy 12:37 ThomasMonroe heya longer :) 12:37 rubenwardy textures should be 2^n (ie: 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256) 12:37 ThomasMonroe hey rubenwardy 12:37 Mr_Pardison I'll have to contract the work out since I can't draw worth much. 12:37 Mr_Pardison 128 it is. 12:38 rubenwardy it's typical to have them 16x16 12:38 Shara Mr_Pardison: textures for what? 12:38 rubenwardy o/ 12:38 Mr_Pardison inventory buttons. 12:38 Shara In that case, I'd go with testing to see what looks good. They are a bit of a soecial case 12:38 Shara special* 12:38 rubenwardy yeah 12:38 Mr_Pardison alright. 12:39 Mr_Pardison thanks for the help. 12:40 ThomasMonroe hi Shara :D 12:40 Shara Hi ThomasMonroe, how's it going? 12:41 ThomasMonroe good :D did you have a nice Easter? 12:41 shivajiva Hiya ThomasM :) 12:41 ThomasMonroe heeey shivajiva long time no speak. :D 12:42 shivajiva yea, I missed your last hello, saw it hours later lol 12:42 paramat to avoid distortion due to formspec scaling i found that 128x128 with a slight blur works best. Mr_Pardison see game#2020 12:42 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/2020 -- Creative: New textures for less distortion by paramat 12:43 paramat also see https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/2019#issuecomment-357852262 must be RGBA 12:45 paramat make sure to resize the screen to see how it looks when scaled 12:46 Shara ThomasMonroe: pretty good thanks 12:46 rubenwardy we really should support SVGs or icon mipmapping 12:46 ThomasMonroe SVGs would be nice 13:08 xerox123 http://needsmorejpeg.com/ 17:51 rud0lf is minetest.override_item stackable? 17:51 rubenwardy ? 17:52 rubenwardy override item sets the fields you mention to something else 17:52 rubenwardy you can call it multiple times 17:52 rud0lf https://gist.github.com/rud01f/abc83f3d1531b8f2177ac228d4c29a17 17:52 rud0lf i mean this case 17:52 rubenwardy that's ifne 17:53 rud0lf if i called it in two different mods? 17:53 rubenwardy sure 17:53 rud0lf thanks 17:53 rubenwardy although the old_place would be different things 20:48 Fixer HEY, LITTLE DRUM! 20:49 * Fixer is compiling newest engine 20:49 rubenwardy the newst, the bestest 20:49 Krock the goodestest 20:49 Fixer FIX MTG 20:50 Fixer i'm ok with flies, make mtg great again before I retire 20:50 Fixer Mr_Pardison: recruite it to develope MTG 20:51 * Shara recruits Fixer 20:51 Shara PRs please! 20:51 Fixer I'm useless, I can't code, only test (depending on mood, procrastination) 20:51 Mr_Pardison I can't code much but I'm forcing myself to do so. 20:51 Krock Fixer, "I'm useless" and "only test" don't fit into one sentence 20:51 Fixer i've looked into lua 20:52 Fixer but it just does not feel exciting to me 20:52 Fixer no lightbulbs above my head (also) 20:52 Krock yeah, alone index starting with 1 hurts 20:52 Fixer it is just, meh 20:52 * Mr_Pardison paints a light-bulb yellow and holds it over Fixer's head 20:53 Fixer it is exciting to read about this stuff sometimes, but not to code :D 21:22 Fixer i've erased at least two lines of very provocative MTG related text, proud of myself 21:23 * Fixer looking at https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/projects/1 21:34 longerstaff13 I'm officially on GitHub \o/ 21:35 rubenwardy Congrats 21:35 longerstaff13 cheers ruben :D 21:38 rubenwardy I joined in 2012 21:38 rubenwardy Minetest made me 21:39 sofar github claims I registered in 2003 21:39 sofar I didn't even knew they existed back then? 21:40 sofar ha no they launched in 2008 21:41 longerstaff13 I joined actual servers in 2015, rubenwardy 21:42 rubenwardy Huh? 21:42 longerstaff13 going on 3 years in September 21:42 rubenwardy Minetest servers? 21:42 longerstaff13 Minetest 21:42 longerstaff13 yeah 21:43 rubenwardy Sofar: where are you seeing that? 21:43 nerzhul sofar: https://github.com/sofar?tab=overview&from=2007-12-01&to=2007-12-31 21:43 nerzhul but yes your historic goes to 2003 21:43 nerzhul i'm not sure git exists in 2003 21:43 sofar it's from git trees that we migrated to github 21:43 nerzhul git: 2005 21:44 sofar those were migrated from SVN 21:44 sofar and those from CVS, lol 21:44 nerzhul lol 21:44 Krock that's an impressive history of data 21:44 nerzhul sofar: https://github.com/torvalds 21:44 nerzhul 1991 21:45 sofar https://github.com/lunar-linux/moonbase-other/commits/master?after=05929a41b8eb2db96463c3afacea5dc5d34e100a+62070 21:45 Krock probably one of the most followed people on GitHub 21:46 sofar I didn't do kernel work until 2006 21:46 rubenwardy Yes, was going to say thar 21:47 sofar well, one patch in 2005 I think 21:47 rubenwardy It works on git commits to imported things will count 21:48 nerzhul easy to cheat 21:48 nerzhul https://github.com/nerzhul 21:49 nerzhul https://github.com/nerzhul/test/commits/master 21:49 nerzhul commited before any VCS repo exists, or gpg :) 21:49 sofar instead of cheating, fix nextcloud app to not b0rk auto uploads 21:49 sofar :) 21:50 nerzhul what do you mean ? i don't maintain nextcloud app (official if you mean) 21:50 nerzhul i only maintain phonesync and weather 21:50 sofar I'm fairly happy with nextcloud 21:50 nerzhul merging #7189, travis is now happy (sorry for heating the cpu ^^) 21:50 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7189 -- Fix many issues reported by clang-tidy by nerzhul 21:50 sofar only thing I really want is a completely independent calendar reminder caldav app 21:50 sofar something that doesn't sync with my phone calendar 21:50 Krock nerzhul, that's not enough. make it something like 100 BC 21:50 nerzhul i'm not a nextcloud coredev, just third party apps 21:52 nerzhul Krock impossible timestamp starts in 1970 21:52 nerzhul git refuse before that (invalid date) 21:53 Krock unsigned integer? oh well.. 21:54 nerzhul yes 21:54 nerzhul don't forget uint32_t -> 2038 bug :p 21:54 nerzhul not all OS are ready. If i remember only BSD and Solaris are ready atm 21:55 Krock it's going to be a funny time 21:55 rud0lf YFFFFFFFF bug 21:57 Krock news be like: 2038, the year of ancient software fails. Billions of USD damage. Trump for his 5th time in row as President 21:57 Fixer in 1 month it is my 7 years minetest anniversary 21:57 rubenwardy Nice 21:58 rubenwardy Already past my 6 years' 21:58 rud0lf Fixer: elaborate 21:58 rubenwardy *passed 21:58 rud0lf minetest's so ancient? 21:58 Fixer yes 21:58 rubenwardy Since 2011 21:58 rud0lf i thought it's year old project or so 21:58 Fixer started in 2010 iirc 21:59 rubenwardy Oh yeah 22:03 Fixer every year I should thank all those mod makers who made MTG playable and great core community of server owners, preserving that feel of golden days, without that profit-driven-insanity in minecraft with ranks for money, pay to win, minigames cancer 22:04 rubenwardy We need moaah 22:05 sofar not according to mineminer 22:05 sofar lol 22:05 Fixer in 2011 I've evaluated several voxel based games, Infiniminer, Minecraft Beta 1.5, Minetest and also two games I forgot 22:05 Fixer I've ended up with minetest 22:06 Fixer minecraft beta was interesting, but fps was near 30-40, and 1536mb of DDR1 RAM (LUXURY) I had at the time and java dislike (RAM reasons), and probably that Z-buffer error (thank you ATI) 22:07 Fixer maybe that Z-buffer bug in beta and open-source zealoutry moved me to minetest 22:07 Fixer that actually had that Z-buffer bug as well actually 22:08 Fixer it was fixed somewhere after 5 years with 1 line fix in code by RBA 22:08 Fixer saved my eyes, RIP RBA 22:08 rubenwardy RIP 22:10 Fixer back in the time on WinXP i had 1536 of mem: 200mb used by XP, 300-500mb by Firefox, 100mb by Skype, it left me pretty tight for minecraft beta, minetest used much less RAM and also stuttered like crazy in SP, but was okayish in MP 22:11 rubenwardy Hmm 22:11 rubenwardy Kinda want to play 0.3.1, just to see the progress 22:12 longerstaff13 0.3.1 is nostalgic 22:12 Fixer rubenwardy: better textures, more blocks, carts, that's it :D 22:12 longerstaff13 that's actually what I started with in the Ubuntu software centre in 2012 22:13 Fixer 8 years of MTG progress in 3 words: blocks, carts, textures 22:13 longerstaff13 (I was singleplayer until 2015 when I found out the server list works) 22:13 Fixer and regress in mobs 22:14 Fixer we had mobs for brief time 22:14 Shara Well now you have plants pretending to be mobs 22:14 longerstaff13 lol 22:14 Shara I really should sort out those butterflies soon 22:14 Fixer pedobears aka dungeon masters were the funniest, they strip mined entire mountain bases in random fasion 22:14 Fixer Shara: thats the sad part, they are decor, nice decor 22:15 Shara Yes, but not mobs 22:15 Fixer we still need mobs 22:15 Shara I'd like to see mobs added as well 22:15 * xerox123 may turn up to freenode live this year :D 22:15 Fixer that will be developed/merged sometime in the future (I hope) 22:16 Fixer I liked kray.dy.fi server in 2011, now I'm looking at very long running MCOnline server, their architecture was just like ours on that server 22:17 Fixer in 2011 22:17 Fixer it was same culture 22:17 Fixer it is just we were poor open source hippies, without redstone and without carts 22:17 Fixer we had rails built in 2011, is not that LOL? LIKE L O L ? 22:19 Fixer that server did not have mushroomman carts, rails were placed as a HOPE? I guess, VISIONS of better future, with carts, soon 22:19 Fixer with intersections 22:19 Fixer path was above water 22:20 Fixer and celeron often hopped in on servers, to test some stuff and such 22:21 Fixer and I wined about occlusion culling in 2012 iirc 22:21 rubenwardy Celeron also deved then 22:21 Fixer yeah 22:22 Fixer funniest part when someone logined as Notch on server I was, was pretty funny 22:22 Fixer that was like 2011-2012 22:22 Fixer before MS buyout I think 22:23 rubenwardy Way before 22:23 Fixer he was not trolling or anything, maybe it was real, or just for fun 22:23 Fixer wonder if Notch even knows about minetest, he actually had option to open source Minecraft in case of failure 22:24 Calinou haha, I see Krock in #winehq :D 22:24 rubenwardy One of his staff did 22:24 rubenwardy Jeb, I think 22:24 Calinou Fixer: https://lut.im/LBCkLAgWow/E8maGAfjEJNmL7nR.png 22:24 Calinou I got Midtown Madness 2 running in WINE 22:24 Fixer nice 22:24 rubenwardy He mentioned that people making their own is pretty cool 22:24 Calinou I can't get an hexedit to work to set resolution to 2560×1440, and haven't found a way to force MSAA + AF either 22:24 Calinou I haven't got Motocross Madness 2 working either 22:26 Krock Calinou, how did you do that? It always crashed for me when loading the map 22:26 Calinou I don't really know… I didn't have to set up anything specific 22:26 Calinou I told WINE to emulate a virtual desktop so the game runs in a window 22:26 Calinou (I set the window to 1600×1200, the largest resolution offered by the vanilla game) 22:26 Fixer i remember one day when celeron-- made a new server map, divided it into two halfs (one for interacts and one for not iirc), bunch of people logined and played, later that server had amazingly good grief 22:26 Calinou (the screenshot is 1440×900) 22:26 Fixer we had running 22:27 Calinou Fixer: oh yeah, the two halves 22:27 Calinou rubenwardy: yeah, jeb_ wrote in 2014 "we're fine with people making clones as long as they don't use Minecraft assets" 22:27 Fixer we already had mobs in late 2011 22:31 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/R4eAVig.png that spawn on 2012-04-08 22:31 Fixer or so 22:32 Fixer 2012-04-19 actually 22:32 Fixer i had fly it seems 22:33 Fixer "Google Chrome tool that scans Windows computers for malware" 22:37 Fixer nice 22:37 Fixer 9 megabytes 22:37 rubenwardy That's the fat images which I was required to add 22:37 rubenwardy There's like 7 of them 22:37 Fixer nice, I was expect Calinouish response like 900mb is norm today, you are dinosaur 22:38 Fixer was expecting* 22:38 rubenwardy 9MB is not that much though 22:38 rubenwardy XD 22:41 rubenwardy Pretty poor really, they should've given me my own account and deleted it after 22:41 Fixer "not to feed kitchen scraps to f..." 22:41 Fixer what 22:42 Fixer damn, that page does not respond well when images are opened 22:43 rubenwardy Yay play 22:44 rubenwardy That's possibly the only good app that company has ever made 22:44 rubenwardy Because I did it 100% by myself 22:44 Fixer heh 22:45 rubenwardy Their QA was nonexistent, and they hired mainly from uni students 22:49 Fixer high quality enterprise business in 2018 22:49 Fixer jokes come true 22:49 rubenwardy Yeah, it's basically every bad employee meme put together 22:50 Fixer bribe out a site project from government for 10 millions, find a student from India to write for $100, ???, profits! 22:51 Fixer i'm pretty sure someone did this already 22:51 Fixer worst part is outsourcing for NA clients, it is like, you will receive indian like pay, but actually we booked you as $1000 per month, but we took $800 away, have fun! 22:55 Fixer only the bestest and finest business practices 22:55 Fixer Chinese are probably way more effective at those 22:56 Fixer doing business in China is poker face in a cube 23:03 Fixer also, thanks for VBO and SFS PR, made a difference 23:05 Fixer z-sorting is most annoying thing left 23:08 Fixer from visual bugs