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IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2018-04-02

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00:03 longerstaff13-m Goodnight everyone o/
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06:17 sofar "GET /.git/config HTTP/1.1" 301 185 "-" "NYU Internet Census (https://scan.lol;
06:17 sofar "GET /.ssh/id_rsa HTTP/1.1" 301 185 "-" "NYU Internet Census (https://scan
06:17 sofar take a guess what country that is originating from
06:34 rud0lf didn't know document root is /home/sofar
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06:39 Peppy hi
06:41 * Peppy vs translations. Round 4
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09:55 sfan5 sofar: russia
09:55 sfan5 without cheating I'd probably guess united states
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10:39 longerstaff13-m It's quiet for a Monday morning o.O
10:46 Shara Hello all :)
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11:12 longerstaff13 good afternoon Shara :)
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11:48 longerstaff13 XD
11:49 rubenwardy Yeah
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12:16 nerzhul VM in a VM exists since years yes :)
12:16 rubenwardy did it yearss ago
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12:19 longerstaff13 o/ aerozoic
12:19 aerozoic hi longerstaff13
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12:27 ThomasMonroe o/ aerozoic :)
12:28 aerozoic hey ThomasMonroe how's it goin?
12:28 ThomasMonroe good :D
12:35 longerstaff13 hey ThomasMonroe
12:36 Mr_Pardison question about textures: they should be 64x64, right?
12:36 rubenwardy no,  at least 256x256
12:36 rubenwardy </joke>
12:37 ThomasMonroe heya longer :)
12:37 rubenwardy textures should be 2^n (ie: 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256)
12:37 ThomasMonroe hey rubenwardy
12:37 Mr_Pardison I'll have to contract the work out since I can't draw worth much.
12:37 Mr_Pardison 128 it is.
12:38 rubenwardy it's typical to have them 16x16
12:38 Shara Mr_Pardison:  textures for what?
12:38 rubenwardy o/
12:38 Mr_Pardison inventory buttons.
12:38 Shara In that case, I'd go with testing to see what looks good. They are a bit of a soecial case
12:38 Shara special*
12:38 rubenwardy yeah
12:38 Mr_Pardison alright.
12:39 Mr_Pardison thanks for the help.
12:40 ThomasMonroe hi Shara :D
12:40 Shara Hi ThomasMonroe, how's it going?
12:41 ThomasMonroe good :D did you have a nice Easter?
12:41 shivajiva Hiya ThomasM :)
12:41 ThomasMonroe heeey shivajiva long time no speak. :D
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12:42 shivajiva yea, I missed your last hello, saw it hours later lol
12:42 paramat to avoid distortion due to formspec scaling i found that 128x128 with a slight blur works best. Mr_Pardison see game#2020
12:42 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/2020 -- Creative: New textures for less distortion by paramat
12:43 paramat also see https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/2019#issuecomment-357852262 must be RGBA
12:45 paramat make sure to resize the screen to see how it looks when scaled
12:46 Shara ThomasMonroe: pretty good thanks
12:46 rubenwardy we really should support SVGs or icon mipmapping
12:46 ThomasMonroe SVGs would be nice
13:08 xerox123 http://needsmorejpeg.com/
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17:51 rud0lf is minetest.override_item stackable?
17:51 rubenwardy ?
17:52 rubenwardy override item sets the fields you mention to something else
17:52 rubenwardy you can call it multiple times
17:52 rud0lf https://gist.github.com/rud01f/abc83f3d1531b8f2177ac228d4c29a17
17:52 rud0lf i mean this case
17:52 rubenwardy that's ifne
17:53 rud0lf if i called it in two different mods?
17:53 rubenwardy sure
17:53 rud0lf thanks
17:53 rubenwardy although the old_place would be different things
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20:48 Fixer HEY, LITTLE DRUM!
20:49 * Fixer is compiling newest engine
20:49 rubenwardy the newst, the bestest
20:49 Krock the goodestest
20:49 Fixer FIX MTG
20:50 Fixer i'm ok with flies, make mtg great again before I retire
20:50 Fixer Mr_Pardison: recruite it to develope MTG
20:51 * Shara recruits Fixer
20:51 Shara PRs please!
20:51 Fixer I'm useless, I can't code, only test (depending on mood, procrastination)
20:51 Mr_Pardison I can't code much but I'm forcing myself to do so.
20:51 Krock Fixer, "I'm useless" and "only test" don't fit into one sentence
20:51 Fixer i've looked into lua
20:52 Fixer but it just does not feel exciting to me
20:52 Fixer no lightbulbs above my head (also)
20:52 Krock yeah, alone index starting with 1 hurts
20:52 Fixer it is just, meh
20:52 * Mr_Pardison paints a light-bulb yellow and holds it over Fixer's head
20:53 Fixer it is exciting to read about this stuff sometimes, but not to code :D
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21:22 Fixer i've erased at least two lines of very provocative MTG related text, proud of myself
21:23 * Fixer looking at https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/projects/1
21:34 longerstaff13 I'm officially on GitHub \o/
21:35 rubenwardy Congrats
21:35 longerstaff13 cheers ruben :D
21:38 rubenwardy I joined in 2012
21:38 rubenwardy Minetest made me
21:39 sofar github claims I registered in 2003
21:39 sofar I didn't even knew they existed back then?
21:40 sofar ha no they launched in 2008
21:41 longerstaff13 I joined actual servers in 2015, rubenwardy
21:42 rubenwardy Huh?
21:42 longerstaff13 going on 3 years in September
21:42 rubenwardy Minetest servers?
21:42 longerstaff13 Minetest
21:42 longerstaff13 yeah
21:43 rubenwardy Sofar: where are you seeing that?
21:43 nerzhul sofar: https://github.com/sofar?tab=overview&amp;from=2007-12-01&amp;to=2007-12-31
21:43 nerzhul but yes your historic goes to 2003
21:43 nerzhul i'm not sure git exists in 2003
21:43 sofar it's from git trees that we migrated to github
21:43 nerzhul git: 2005
21:44 sofar those were migrated from SVN
21:44 sofar and those from CVS, lol
21:44 nerzhul lol
21:44 Krock that's an impressive history of data
21:44 nerzhul sofar: https://github.com/torvalds
21:44 nerzhul 1991
21:45 sofar https://github.com/lunar-linux/moonbase-other/commits/master?after=05929a41b8eb2db96463c3afacea5dc5d34e100a+62070
21:45 Krock probably one of the most followed people on GitHub
21:46 sofar I didn't do kernel work until 2006
21:46 rubenwardy Yes, was going to say thar
21:47 sofar well, one patch in 2005 I think
21:47 rubenwardy It works on git commits to imported things will count
21:48 nerzhul easy to cheat
21:48 nerzhul https://github.com/nerzhul
21:49 nerzhul https://github.com/nerzhul/test/commits/master
21:49 nerzhul commited before any VCS repo exists, or gpg :)
21:49 sofar instead of cheating, fix nextcloud app to not b0rk auto uploads
21:49 sofar :)
21:50 nerzhul what do you mean ? i don't maintain nextcloud app (official if you mean)
21:50 nerzhul i only maintain phonesync and weather
21:50 sofar I'm fairly happy with nextcloud
21:50 nerzhul merging #7189, travis is now happy (sorry for heating the cpu ^^)
21:50 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7189 -- Fix many issues reported by clang-tidy by nerzhul
21:50 sofar only thing I really want is a completely independent calendar reminder caldav app
21:50 sofar something that doesn't sync with my phone calendar
21:50 Krock nerzhul, that's not enough. make it something like 100 BC
21:50 nerzhul i'm not a nextcloud coredev, just third party apps
21:52 nerzhul Krock impossible timestamp starts in 1970
21:52 nerzhul git refuse before that (invalid date)
21:53 Krock unsigned integer? oh well..
21:54 nerzhul yes
21:54 nerzhul don't forget uint32_t -> 2038 bug :p
21:54 nerzhul not all OS are ready. If i remember only BSD and Solaris are ready atm
21:55 Krock it's going to be a funny time
21:55 rud0lf YFFFFFFFF bug
21:57 Krock news be like: 2038, the year of ancient software fails. Billions of USD damage. Trump for his 5th time in row as President
21:57 Fixer in 1 month it is my 7 years minetest anniversary
21:57 rubenwardy Nice
21:58 rubenwardy Already past my 6 years'
21:58 rud0lf Fixer: elaborate
21:58 rubenwardy *passed
21:58 rud0lf minetest's so ancient?
21:58 Fixer yes
21:58 rubenwardy Since 2011
21:58 rud0lf i thought it's year old project or so
21:58 Fixer started in 2010 iirc
21:59 rubenwardy Oh yeah
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22:03 Fixer every year I should thank all those mod makers who made MTG playable and great core community of server owners, preserving that feel of golden days, without that profit-driven-insanity in minecraft with ranks for money, pay to win, minigames cancer
22:04 rubenwardy We need moaah
22:05 sofar not according to mineminer
22:05 sofar lol
22:05 Fixer in 2011 I've evaluated several voxel based games, Infiniminer, Minecraft Beta 1.5, Minetest and also two games I forgot
22:05 Fixer I've ended up with minetest
22:06 Fixer minecraft beta was interesting, but fps was near 30-40, and 1536mb of DDR1 RAM (LUXURY) I had at the time and java dislike (RAM reasons), and probably that Z-buffer error (thank you ATI)
22:07 Fixer maybe that Z-buffer bug in beta and open-source zealoutry moved me to minetest
22:07 Fixer that actually had that Z-buffer bug as well actually
22:08 Fixer it was fixed somewhere after 5 years with 1 line fix in code by RBA
22:08 Fixer saved my eyes, RIP RBA
22:08 rubenwardy RIP
22:10 Fixer back in the time on WinXP i had 1536 of mem: 200mb used by XP, 300-500mb by Firefox, 100mb by Skype, it left me pretty tight for minecraft beta, minetest used much less RAM and also stuttered like crazy in SP, but was okayish in MP
22:11 rubenwardy Hmm
22:11 rubenwardy Kinda want to play 0.3.1, just to see the progress
22:12 longerstaff13 0.3.1 is nostalgic
22:12 Fixer rubenwardy: better textures, more blocks, carts, that's it :D
22:12 longerstaff13 that's actually what I started with in the Ubuntu software centre in 2012
22:13 Fixer 8 years of MTG progress in 3 words: blocks, carts, textures
22:13 longerstaff13 (I was singleplayer until 2015 when I found out the server list works)
22:13 Fixer and regress in mobs
22:14 Fixer we had mobs for brief time
22:14 Shara Well now you have plants pretending to be mobs
22:14 longerstaff13 lol
22:14 Shara I really should sort out those butterflies soon
22:14 Fixer pedobears aka dungeon masters were the funniest, they strip mined entire mountain bases in random fasion
22:14 Fixer Shara: thats the sad part, they are decor, nice decor
22:15 Shara Yes, but not mobs
22:15 Fixer we still need mobs
22:15 Shara I'd like to see mobs added as well
22:15 * xerox123 may turn up to freenode live this year :D
22:15 Fixer that will be developed/merged sometime in the future (I hope)
22:16 Fixer I liked kray.dy.fi server in 2011, now I'm looking at very long running MCOnline server, their architecture was just like ours on that server
22:17 Fixer in 2011
22:17 Fixer it was same culture
22:17 Fixer it is just we were poor open source hippies, without redstone and without carts
22:17 Fixer we had rails built in 2011, is not that LOL? LIKE  L   O   L ?
22:19 Fixer that server did not have mushroomman carts, rails were placed as a HOPE? I guess, VISIONS of better future, with carts, soon
22:19 Fixer with intersections
22:19 Fixer path was above water
22:20 Fixer and celeron often hopped in on servers, to test some stuff and such
22:21 Fixer and I wined about occlusion culling in 2012 iirc
22:21 rubenwardy Celeron also deved then
22:21 Fixer yeah
22:22 Fixer funniest part when someone logined as Notch on server I was, was pretty funny
22:22 Fixer that was like 2011-2012
22:22 Fixer before MS buyout I think
22:23 rubenwardy Way before
22:23 Fixer he was not trolling or anything, maybe it was real, or just for fun
22:23 Fixer wonder if Notch even knows about minetest, he actually had option to open source Minecraft in case of failure
22:24 Calinou haha, I see Krock in #winehq :D
22:24 rubenwardy One of his staff did
22:24 rubenwardy Jeb, I think
22:24 Calinou Fixer: https://lut.im/LBCkLAgWow/E8maGAfjEJNmL7nR.png
22:24 Calinou I got Midtown Madness 2 running in WINE
22:24 Fixer nice
22:24 rubenwardy He mentioned that people making their own is pretty cool
22:24 Calinou I can't get an hexedit to work to set resolution to 2560×1440, and haven't found a way to force MSAA + AF either
22:24 Calinou I haven't got Motocross Madness 2 working either
22:26 Krock Calinou, how did you do that? It always crashed for me when loading the map
22:26 Calinou I don't really know… I didn't have to set up anything specific
22:26 Calinou I told WINE to emulate a virtual desktop so the game runs in a window
22:26 Calinou (I set the window to 1600×1200, the largest resolution offered by the vanilla game)
22:26 Fixer i remember one day when celeron-- made a new server map, divided it into two halfs (one for interacts and one for not iirc), bunch of people logined and played, later that server had amazingly good grief
22:26 Calinou (the screenshot is 1440×900)
22:26 Fixer we had running
22:27 Calinou Fixer: oh yeah, the two halves
22:27 Calinou rubenwardy: yeah, jeb_ wrote in 2014 "we're fine with people making clones as long as they don't use Minecraft assets"
22:27 Fixer we already had mobs in late 2011
22:31 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/R4eAVig.png that spawn on 2012-04-08
22:31 Fixer or so
22:32 Fixer 2012-04-19 actually
22:32 Fixer i had fly it seems
22:33 Fixer "Google Chrome tool that scans Windows computers for malware"
22:37 Fixer nice
22:37 Fixer 9 megabytes
22:37 rubenwardy That's the fat images which I was required to add
22:37 rubenwardy There's like 7 of them
22:37 Fixer nice, I was expect Calinouish response like 900mb is norm today, you are dinosaur
22:38 Fixer was expecting*
22:38 rubenwardy 9MB is not that much though
22:38 rubenwardy XD
22:41 rubenwardy Pretty poor really, they should've given me my own account and deleted it after
22:41 Fixer "not to feed kitchen scraps to f..."
22:41 Fixer what
22:42 Fixer damn, that page does not respond well when images are opened
22:43 rubenwardy Yay play
22:44 rubenwardy That's possibly the only good app that company has ever made
22:44 rubenwardy Because I did it 100% by myself
22:44 Fixer heh
22:45 rubenwardy Their QA was nonexistent, and they hired mainly from uni students
22:49 Fixer high quality enterprise business in 2018
22:49 Fixer jokes come true
22:49 rubenwardy Yeah, it's basically every bad employee meme put together
22:50 Fixer bribe out a site project from government for 10 millions, find a student from India to write for $100, ???, profits!
22:51 Fixer i'm pretty sure someone did this already
22:51 Fixer worst part is outsourcing for NA clients, it is like, you will receive indian like pay, but actually we booked you as $1000 per month, but we took $800 away, have fun!
22:55 Fixer only the bestest and finest business practices
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22:55 Fixer Chinese are probably way more effective at those
22:56 Fixer doing business in China is poker face in a cube
23:03 Fixer also, thanks for VBO and SFS PR, made a difference
23:05 Fixer z-sorting is most annoying thing left
23:08 Fixer from visual bugs
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