Time Nick Message 00:45 Megaf Sokomine: I read when the channel becomes orange :P 00:46 Megaf Mostly I only talk o -Chat 00:46 Megaf and react to everything else 01:52 rubenwardy web#122 01:52 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest.github.io/issues/122 -- Redesign homepage by rubenwardy 12:29 tenplus1 hi folks 12:30 Peppy hi 12:30 tenplus1 hi peppy 12:31 Peppy thanks to mod profiling, I think I solved my cpu issue 12:31 tenplus1 ooh, what was causing it ? 12:32 Peppy advanced ban + a custom newbieguard mod 12:32 tenplus1 damn, what were they doing to cause so much cpu usage ? 12:32 Peppy I optimised a few timers and abm too 12:33 tenplus1 sweet :) 12:33 Peppy I just desactivated the culprits, i'll investigate later 12:34 tenplus1 are the mods in question on github ? 12:35 Peppy not sure for newbieguard, advanced ban probably is 12:38 Peppy Axinite has a Github repo that is not up to date, i'll push everything when the cleanup is done 12:39 tenplus1 :) 12:39 tenplus1 Mobs Redo API has been udpated with new 'explosion' mob features 12:43 Peppy pulled, thanks :) 12:46 * TommyTreasure likes exploding mobs 12:46 tenplus1 hi Tommy :) 12:47 TommyTreasure hi tenplus1, very happy with the previous api. have to check out this one soon 13:27 tenplus1 hi lumberJ 13:28 lumberJ hey tenplus1. how's it going? 13:28 tenplus1 not bad thx, updaging mods... how's you ? 13:31 lumberJ good, also working on some mods 13:31 tenplus1 hi aerozoic 13:32 tenplus1 We shall call this, Mod Monday :D 13:33 aerozoic wazup tenplus1 13:33 tenplus1 :P 13:33 lumberJ why not March mod madness? 13:34 tenplus1 catchy but I'd have to work all march in that case :D 13:34 aerozoic isn't "march madness" an american thing? 13:35 aerozoic Or did they take it from something else? 13:35 tenplus1 march madness is the 2018 NCAA men's basketball tournament 13:36 lumberJ that ^ 13:36 aerozoic Pretty sure it's womens too. 13:36 tenplus1 :) just reading the what the headline said 13:37 aerozoic btw i know what it was since i'm american :P 13:37 aerozoic I was asking because i know most peeps here are not american ;P 13:39 aerozoic ok nobody cares... 13:39 tenplus1 lolol 13:39 lumberJ i do 13:39 aerozoic So ya making new mods or fixing current ones? 13:39 tenplus1 who ? 13:39 lumberJ just say yes :D 13:39 lumberJ lol 13:39 aerozoic whoever is participating in mod monday :) 13:39 * tenplus1 nods 13:41 lumberJ yep yep, though i've now been sidelined looking at ncaa tournament bracket :P 13:41 tenplus1 mwhehehe 13:44 tenplus1 Updated: Inventory_Plus (has language support), Ethereal (fixed vertical tiling on dirt), Protector Redo (updated russian language), pbj_pup (fixed global function name), Mobs Redo (added new exploddy mob features) 13:51 lumberJ suicide bomber mobs? 13:52 tenplus1 we've had exploding mobs for ages (like creepers), but this adds new features to change behaviours 13:52 tenplus1 1 time fuses, resetting fuses, stop when exploding, fuse/explosion sounds, physical node damage caused, entity damage caused etc 13:58 tenplus1 the api.txt file is a good read of all the features you can put in your mobs :P it's a great community effort 14:11 Fixer hi 14:12 tenplus1 hi fixer 14:12 lumberJ hi Fixer 14:12 lumberJ i haven't gotten into mobs too much, but considering it for the future 14:52 tenplus1 wb benrob 14:52 benrob0329 Ty tenplus1 14:54 benrob0329 game#2077 JUST DOO IT 14:54 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/2077 -- Revert game name to 'Mesetint' 14:55 benrob0329 DONT LET YOUR NAMES BE MEMES, JUST DO IT 14:55 * tenplus1 likes Minetest o.O 14:56 benrob0329 tenplus1: MTG name 14:56 benrob0329 "Minetest Game is a Minetest Game" 14:57 tenplus1 ah, we need more of a game direction before choosing name :P 14:57 benrob0329 "Meseint is a Minetest game" 14:57 benrob0329 tenplus1: its an old name, actually 14:57 benrob0329 So no, I dont think we do :P 14:57 * tenplus1 renames default game to "Bob" 14:58 benrob0329 Nonono, Fred: the video game 14:58 tenplus1 eheheh 15:02 Megaf Hi tenplus1 15:24 TommyTreasure tenplus1, is there a difference in spawn chance using 'mobs:spawn', 'mob:register_spawn' and 'mobs:spawn_specific'? or, does the quantity of actual 'nodes' come into effect? 15:24 TommyTreasure or - and* 15:24 tenplus1 mobs:spawn was the original function used in simple_mobs all those years back and had limited spawn control over the mobs 15:25 tenplus1 mobs:spawn_specific was made to add better control but the command line was a little hard to remember 15:25 tenplus1 so mobs:spawn was made so it was easier to remember and fills in many blanks for the user] 15:25 tenplus1 *cough* mobs:register_spawn was the original simple_mobs one... oops 15:26 TommyTreasure i'm more concerned in the actual spawn chance. for instance, the fox in dmobs on my system is set at 64000, and they are way too abundant. where other mobs in the same mod seem to be more under control 15:27 tenplus1 the chance will always be the same in all 3 functions 15:27 tenplus1 but the original spawns beside air whereas spawn_specific and mobs:spawn let you choose a neighbor 15:28 tenplus1 so you have more control over where and hwo many appear 15:28 tenplus1 the latest changes to mobs_animal has them spawning on grass blocks near actual grass so they wont just appear in the middle of an empty field 15:28 TommyTreasure ok, then here's another question on that. my fox is defined to spawn on 2 different nodes. could that be a cause of spawning at a higher rate? 15:28 rubenwardy mesetint sucks as a name 15:28 rubenwardy slightly better than minetest, but not by much 15:29 tenplus1 hi ruben 15:29 tenplus1 tommy: nope, it'll spawn the same on either of the 2 nodes, what neighbors have you set tho, may i see code for fox 15:30 TommyTreasure mobs:register_spawn("dmobs:fox", {"default:dirt_with_grass","default:dirt"}, 20, 10, 64000, 2, 31000) 15:31 TommyTreasure maybe lowering active_object_count to 1 might help? 15:31 tenplus1 yeah, keep it to 1 in that particular area 15:32 tenplus1 the chance itself is rather high, am surprised you see them at all but default:dirt counts for a lot of landmass, you culd remove that part and leave t to spawn on grass 15:32 tenplus1 also mobs:spawn has a switch to spawn only at night, day or both 15:32 TommyTreasure on the other hand, dragons set at chance 30000 don't seem to spawn at all 15:32 tenplus1 so you can be more specific 15:33 tenplus1 https://github.com/tenplus1/mobs_animal/blob/master/chicken.lua#L95 15:34 TommyTreasure btw, that's the method i'm using on dragons. that example helps. thanks 15:35 tenplus1 check out mobs_animal and mobs_monster spawns on my git page :) shows u many features 15:35 TommyTreasure i'm running those too. afraid to admit the other mob mods i'm running. 15:36 tenplus1 lol, admit away :) it's kewl... 15:36 TommyTreasure lets just say that most mobile devices crash on join 15:36 tenplus1 been playing with the mc_mobs myself :D 15:36 tenplus1 and nssm 15:37 rubenwardy hey 15:37 TommyTreasure i'm running nssm with nssb, water, mosters, npc animals, more animals. and of course dmobs 15:37 tenplus1 heavy mob usage on server :) the nssm models themselves can be quite huge :D 15:38 TommyTreasure access to my server is by invite only. too much media to go fully public. even with remote media 15:39 TommyTreasure not worried about ratings 15:39 tenplus1 lolol 15:39 TommyTreasure err.... rankings 15:39 rubenwardy need more modelers and animators for mobs 15:40 rubenwardy the current animations are meh 15:40 rubenwardy also need engine pathfinding to not suck 15:40 tenplus1 yeah, we need better design models and textures 15:40 rubenwardy I thought about making an NPC mod using areastore to contain the location of objects, and then use a design tree 15:41 rubenwardy like how the sims does it 15:41 TommyTreasure to be honest, i'm surprised my hardware hasn't overheated from the mods 15:41 rubenwardy so you could have villagers do your work 15:41 rubenwardy never got around to it though 15:41 * benrob0329 needs to work on character modeling 15:41 tenplus1 the do_custom function in mob definition could have mobs doing anything ya like :D 15:42 rubenwardy I was told I'd be good at modelling once 15:42 rubenwardy different type of modelling, however 15:42 tenplus1 lol 15:42 benrob0329 Kek 15:42 tenplus1 I aint putting that model in mobs redo 15:42 tenplus1 :p 15:42 rubenwardy I ain't a monster 15:42 rubenwardy or a useful animal 15:42 TommyTreasure hmmmmmm 15:42 tenplus1 leaves npc's 15:43 benrob0329 A model of rubenwardy modeling 15:43 rubenwardy oh, didn't know mobs redo had NPCs 15:43 tenplus1 hi RobbieF, how's things 15:43 RobbieF hey tenplus1 doing great, how about you? 15:43 benrob0329 o/ RobbieF 15:43 tenplus1 stu could use that for the armor stand... have ruben modelling the armor :D 15:43 RobbieF anyone here made it to the party on Friday? 15:43 TommyTreasure igor hides in one of the npc mods 15:43 RobbieF more than 1,000,000 Turtlecoin were given out! 15:43 RobbieF hey benrob0329!! 15:43 RobbieF how are ya 15:43 rubenwardy RobbieF, so about $0.00001 worth? 15:43 tenplus1 igor is specific to xanadu :) 8 halloween skins for him 15:44 benrob0329 I did not, was educating the rest of the family on crypto :P 15:44 tenplus1 am okies thanks rob, mod work :) you ? 15:44 TommyTreasure he was probably in one of your github repositories 15:44 TommyTreasure and hi RobbieF 15:45 RobbieF been swamped tenplus1 15:45 RobbieF so much going on 15:45 tenplus1 tell a lie, I added Igor to mobs_npc a few months back :) forgot about that 15:45 RobbieF hey tommytreasure! 15:45 tenplus1 am back at work tomorrows, dreading it :P 15:46 rubenwardy web#122 15:46 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest.github.io/issues/122 -- Redesign homepage by rubenwardy 15:46 RobbieF rubenwardy, my collection alone on Friday has a USD equivalent to $50, and I expect that will double in value within the next 2-3 weeks. 15:46 * tenplus1 still has 2 bitcoins and cant find the damn key 15:46 RobbieF oh mna 15:46 RobbieF man 15:46 RobbieF I'd be making that a bit of a priority :D 15:47 * benrob0329 needs to get mining 15:47 rubenwardy kek 15:47 RobbieF everyone had a great weekend I trust? 15:47 tenplus1 even bought a usb floppy drive to check all my disk collection for the .key file 15:47 RobbieF wow 15:47 RobbieF floppy. 15:47 RobbieF harsh 15:47 benrob0329 tenplus1 is the richest out of any of us, but can't find the key to use it 15:48 RobbieF heh 15:48 RobbieF yep 15:48 tenplus1 lol, my own fault for not taking better care of it 15:48 RobbieF I had a friend who, when it was worth only a few bucks, bought 1 single bitcoin just for fun. 15:48 RobbieF He later passed away, and that 1 BTC just sits there.... 15:48 rubenwardy that's gutting (@tenplus1) 15:48 RobbieF he never knew how rich he was 15:48 tenplus1 I mined these many years ago :) 15:49 RobbieF unreal 15:49 RobbieF I wish I was on that bandwagon 15:49 benrob0329 If all of us only knew then what we know now 15:49 benrob0329 Wed be rich :D 15:49 rubenwardy you can say that about a lot of things 15:50 RobbieF yep 15:50 tenplus1 lol 15:50 RobbieF But when benrob0329 finally gets the tardis completed, we'll fix all this. 15:50 RobbieF :D 15:50 rubenwardy I'm just happy with the £70 I've made off of silly Minecraft users 15:50 benrob0329 Heh 15:50 rubenwardy My website was second when you googled for "Minecraft mod maker" 15:51 RobbieF wonderful! 15:51 RobbieF mine is first when you google "Bald nerd" 15:51 RobbieF lol 15:52 tenplus1 ehehe, I've been recommending your pixel shadow series to peeps at work, they like it 15:52 RobbieF awesome, thanks tenplus1. We will be bringing it back this spring! 15:53 tenplus1 w00t! 15:55 tenplus1 hi sniper 15:56 TommyTreasure << has a youtube vid that has had 31k views in 9 years. 15:56 tenplus1 Q. should I add food grouping to all the food items in my mod to make it compatible with ruben's food mod ? 15:56 rubenwardy oh nice 15:56 rubenwardy tenplus1: probably XD 15:56 rubenwardy food is basically unmaintained atm 15:56 TommyTreasure no! i've made way too many edits in my copy! lol 15:57 rubenwardy I'd probably merge PRs though 15:57 tenplus1 yeah, am thinking that... grizzly's bbq mod is pretty good but uses most of his own items isntead of grouping foods so he can use other mods' 15:59 benrob0329 RobbieF: TPS intro could be a timelapse of you guys building the logo :P 16:01 tenplus1 ooh, that would be awesome 16:16 tenplus1 ruben, should garlic_clove and garlic_bulb have their own groups.. or would it be easier to simple have garlic=1 for the clove part 16:18 benrob0329 Me (browsing the internet): Aww its so cute, I want one! 16:18 tenplus1 lolol 16:18 benrob0329 Also me, later that day: Damit dog! Why are you puking all over the floor? 16:19 tenplus1 ate your shoe 16:20 rubenwardy updated web#122 16:20 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest.github.io/issues/122 -- Redesign homepage, replace subgame with game by rubenwardy 16:21 tenplus1 the screenshot needs the new 3d torches in there 16:21 rubenwardy out of scope 16:22 Fixer rubenwardy: have not noticed any changes 16:22 rubenwardy ? 16:22 rubenwardy oh, I've changed other pages 16:22 rubenwardy to change subgame to game" 16:23 Fixer too much empty spacing around "Features" 16:23 Fixer and thats on my 5:4 16:23 Fixer i can only imagine how much is visible on some truncated 16:9-sh-t 16:24 rubenwardy yes 16:24 rubenwardy that's on my todo list 16:24 rubenwardy also thinking it could be removed 16:26 Fixer minetest page is not that bad, come go see those 3 scrolls of empty pages with 3 pictures that has like 20 words in total 16:26 tenplus1 heh 16:28 Fixer there was one youtube video with a guy who ordered site redesign, oh god, what a piece of shit design he got for like 5000$ 16:28 tenplus1 eek 16:28 Fixer he had hdpi 16:9, and it was looking ridiculously bad 16:29 benrob0329 rubenwardy: noice 16:29 benrob0329 Only gripe is "near infinite maps" 16:29 benrob0329 But thats not your fault :P 16:30 benrob0329 Idea: Screenshot of the month 16:30 tenplus1 ooh, that woudl be a good idea :) 16:30 benrob0329 They go on the home page :P 16:30 tenplus1 especially with all of the amazing builds on servers 16:31 benrob0329 New screenshots then continue to come in, with different games and texture packs 16:31 benrob0329 We can move older screenshots off 16:35 Megaf rubenwardy: just merge my PR before that one... 16:36 tenplus1 wb Gael-de-Sailly 16:37 Megaf web#121 16:37 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest.github.io/issues/121 -- Channel description improvements 2. by Megaf 16:38 Fixer i agree that 65000x65000x65000 is enough for 99% 16:39 Fixer if you look into large and long lasting servers, they can easily fit into 4000x65000x4000 16:39 benrob0329 Challenge: remake the MT website with no JS or CSS framework 16:40 Fixer benrob0329: in plain html4 16:40 benrob0329 Fixer: no, 5 16:41 benrob0329 5 has a lot of useful features to cut down in JS iirc 16:50 benrob0329 O/ sfan5 16:51 tenplus1 wb sfan 16:55 tenplus1 o/ paramat 17:03 Fixer o\ 17:04 tenplus1 erk, is github under ddos attack, it's damn slow uploading 17:05 Megaf Is there any doc anywhere on how to apply a texture pack to a server? 17:06 tenplus1 hi Megaf 17:06 Megaf Hi tenplus1 :) 17:08 tenplus1 texture_path = /foo/blah 17:08 tenplus1 in .conf file 17:21 tenplus1 food_ groups added to farming redo, mobs redo/animals, wine and ethereal mods for better crafting recipes 17:25 Megaf cheers tenplus1 17:27 tenplus1 lol rubenwardy, you might just have started something here :) 17:28 rubenwardy oh god 17:28 rubenwardy what? 17:28 tenplus1 Grizzly and myself have adhered to the Ruben standard in food grouping :) 17:28 rubenwardy yay 17:28 tenplus1 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=19324&p=314153#p314144 17:28 rubenwardy the food support code is also licensed under WTFPL 17:28 rubenwardy so you can use it to support ingredients which don't have nice groups 17:29 tenplus1 would be nice if you made a forum post to ask modders to think about supporting food groups 18:21 tenplus1 hi CWz 18:36 Krock hi tenplus1 18:36 Krock WOOOSH 18:42 tenplus1 Hi krock :)) 18:42 tenplus1 All foody recipes in Ethereal, Farming Redo now use food groups for compatibility :) 18:44 * tenplus1 has adhered to the Ruben standards of food crafting :P 18:54 tenplus1 also hi Peppy and Cwz... :P was pre-occupied with food for too long there :P 18:54 tenplus1 hi Darcidride_ 19:05 tenplus1 wb Krock 19:06 Krock ty tenplus1 19:06 tenplus1 ever been on minds.com yet ? 19:06 Krock vsauce eventually? 19:07 tenplus1 nah, forum site with no limitations and crypto points... quite good :) 19:07 Krock $1 = 1,000 points 19:07 Krock why not the opposite? I want money 19:07 tenplus1 it is :) get 10,000 points viewing and using forums and get $10 in your account 19:09 * tenplus1 has 9.52k points :P 19:09 Krock simbabwe "dollars" or US dollars? that makes a difference 19:09 tenplus1 usd 19:10 Krock wow nice but that means they need to generate that money somehow by paying users, showing ads and/or selling data 19:10 tenplus1 not just that, but a lot of content youtube doesnt like, so some interesting reads :) sciencey stuff and views etc 19:10 tenplus1 it's all open-source, can read how they do it prolly 19:11 benrob0329 tenplus1: its not completely open source yet 19:11 benrob0329 Iirc anyways 19:12 tenplus1 :) so far so good, totally hated facebook 19:12 Megaf Hey, VSauce! Megaf here 19:12 tenplus1 ahahaha 19:14 benrob0329 tenplus1: to explain my earlier comment 19:14 benrob0329 My dog threw up, what seemed to be dirt 19:15 benrob0329 Like, just plain old dirt 19:15 benrob0329 As in he went outside and consumed part of the yard 19:15 tenplus1 erk, seems like he's got some weird cravings :P 19:15 benrob0329 "Quit snorting dirt!' 19:17 tenplus1 lol 19:22 tenplus1 hi redblade 19:40 Fixer sofar: you have a secret plan for new subgame (aka game)? i've read your comment and it felt like you want to start a new thing, but why don't you start it sooner than later? buzy office work? 20:07 sofar combination of things 20:08 tenplus1 o/ 20:08 sofar I'm actually enjoying taking care of a bunch of projects that I've deployed 20:08 sofar like itb and the prms 20:08 tenplus1 kill bots ? 20:09 sofar mostly I need to not get ahead of myself with the little amount I have reserved for MT related stuff I'd like to do 20:09 tenplus1 doesnt mars have 26 hours in a day ?!?! hrmmm 20:09 sofar yes 20:10 tenplus1 2 extra hours to do things... 20:10 sofar I'd probably spend the 2 extra hours sleeping 20:11 tenplus1 the first hour could be an extended tea time... :) the other I dunno yet, woudl find something 20:25 sofar I've also been busy with other stuff, not to mention work, other games, oh and it's tax season again 20:25 tenplus1 ouch, tax season is bad enough 20:29 Shara only 26 hours? 20:29 tenplus1 hi Shara 20:29 Shara I think we need to go further than Mars... 20:29 Shara Hi all :) 20:29 tenplus1 o/ 20:40 Megaf Mind the offtipic 20:41 tenplus1 :P 20:41 * Shara sends Megaf to Mars 20:41 Shara What was that? 20:42 * tenplus1 wonders how paramat's layering mapgen is coming along... 20:42 * Megaf gravity slingshots around and comes flying hot as a rocket back at Shara 20:43 Shara I'm looking forward to seeing him work on controlling which biome players spawn in 20:43 tenplus1 yeah I saw some of the spawn changes in git :) interesting 20:43 Shara Well... it's a thing I need :) 20:43 Megaf Not breaking my super cool /spawn command I'm cool with it 20:43 * tenplus1 spawns all new players in da swamp 20:44 Megaf really? 20:44 Shara It should just affect where players start if you don't set a spawn point yourself 20:44 tenplus1 :P 20:44 Shara lol tenplus1 20:44 tenplus1 gotta add a shrek model to tell them to get back out again 20:44 Megaf I used to have a maze players have to solve in order to join the world 20:44 Megaf the maze was 1000s meter underground 20:44 CWz Sherk mobs 20:45 Megaf to find the right way players should anser questions 20:45 Megaf each answer was a path 20:45 Shara Well, if I started players in the library maze, I'd simply have no players. 20:45 tenplus1 I DO like the idea of a basic task all new players need to complete so their player file is saved for next login and not removed on logout 20:45 Megaf right answer, right pat, wrong answer, drop into lava 20:45 CWz what if they don't know da wae 20:45 tenplus1 then they can ask... 20:46 tenplus1 "do you kno da wae" "halp, am noob" 20:46 Shara I'm still considering one day replacing /ban with /maze.. only of course, you'll get the hacked client users... But having t he patience to find your way out of there would be enough to earn a second chance 20:46 tenplus1 lol 20:46 Megaf in my case, we would just leave them there and they would eventually either give up and leave or get angry, aggressive nad impolite, at this point they would be sent to jail and banned 20:46 tenplus1 would be fun tho 20:53 tenplus1 nite all o/ 22:00 sofar itb is essentially a "maze runner" game :D 23:48 Fixer yes 23:52 Calinou Shara: I know someone who got banned from a TF2 server, they could come back if they watched the first two episodes of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic (they had to write a summary that's not copy-pasted from somewhere to prove it) 23:52 Calinou they were eventually unbanned. :P 23:53 Fixer Calinou: now thats creepy 23:53 Fixer AF 23:53 Fixer that's