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00:45 Megaf Sokomine: I read when the channel becomes orange :P
00:46 Megaf Mostly I only talk o -Chat
00:46 Megaf and react to everything else
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01:52 rubenwardy web#122
01:52 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/m​inetest.github.io/issues/122 -- Redesign homepage by rubenwardy
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12:29 tenplus1 hi folks
12:30 Peppy hi
12:30 tenplus1 hi peppy
12:31 Peppy thanks to mod profiling, I think I solved my cpu issue
12:31 tenplus1 ooh, what was causing it ?
12:32 Peppy advanced ban + a custom newbieguard mod
12:32 tenplus1 damn, what were they doing to cause so much cpu usage ?
12:32 Peppy I optimised a few timers and abm too
12:33 tenplus1 sweet :)
12:33 Peppy I just desactivated the culprits, i'll investigate later
12:34 tenplus1 are the mods in question on github ?
12:35 Peppy not sure for newbieguard, advanced ban probably is
12:38 Peppy Axinite has a Github repo that is not up to date, i'll push everything when the cleanup is done
12:39 tenplus1 :)
12:39 tenplus1 Mobs Redo API has been udpated with new 'explosion' mob features
12:43 Peppy pulled, thanks :)
12:46 * TommyTreasure likes exploding mobs
12:46 tenplus1 hi Tommy :)
12:47 TommyTreasure hi tenplus1, very happy with the previous api.  have to check out this one soon
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13:27 tenplus1 hi lumberJ
13:28 lumberJ hey tenplus1. how's it going?
13:28 tenplus1 not bad thx, updaging mods... how's you ?
13:31 lumberJ good, also working on some mods
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13:31 tenplus1 hi aerozoic
13:32 tenplus1 We shall call this, Mod Monday :D
13:33 aerozoic wazup tenplus1
13:33 tenplus1 :P
13:33 lumberJ why not March mod madness?
13:34 tenplus1 catchy but I'd have to work all march in that case :D
13:34 aerozoic isn't "march madness" an american thing?
13:35 aerozoic Or did they take it from something else?
13:35 tenplus1 march madness is the 2018 NCAA men's basketball tournament
13:36 lumberJ that ^
13:36 aerozoic Pretty sure it's womens too.
13:36 tenplus1 :) just reading the what the headline said
13:37 aerozoic btw i know what it was since i'm american :P
13:37 aerozoic I was asking because i know most peeps here are not american ;P
13:39 aerozoic ok nobody cares...
13:39 tenplus1 lolol
13:39 lumberJ i do
13:39 aerozoic So ya making new mods or fixing current ones?
13:39 tenplus1 who ?
13:39 lumberJ just say yes :D
13:39 lumberJ lol
13:39 aerozoic whoever is participating in mod monday :)
13:39 * tenplus1 nods
13:41 lumberJ yep yep, though i've now been sidelined looking at ncaa tournament bracket :P
13:41 tenplus1 mwhehehe
13:44 tenplus1 Updated: Inventory_Plus (has language support), Ethereal (fixed vertical tiling on dirt), Protector Redo (updated russian language), pbj_pup (fixed global function name), Mobs Redo (added new exploddy mob features)
13:51 lumberJ suicide bomber mobs?
13:52 tenplus1 we've had exploding mobs for ages (like creepers), but this adds new features to change behaviours
13:52 tenplus1 1 time fuses, resetting fuses, stop when exploding, fuse/explosion sounds, physical node damage caused, entity damage caused etc
13:58 tenplus1 the api.txt file is a good read of all the features you can put in your mobs :P it's a great community effort
14:11 Fixer hi
14:12 tenplus1 hi fixer
14:12 lumberJ hi Fixer
14:12 lumberJ i haven't gotten into mobs too much, but considering it for the future
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14:52 tenplus1 wb benrob
14:52 benrob0329 Ty tenplus1
14:54 benrob0329 game#2077 JUST DOO IT
14:54 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest​/minetest_game/issues/2077 -- Revert game name to 'Mesetint'
14:55 benrob0329 DONT LET YOUR NAMES BE MEMES, JUST DO IT
14:55 * tenplus1 likes Minetest o.O
14:56 benrob0329 tenplus1: MTG name
14:56 benrob0329 "Minetest Game is a Minetest Game"
14:57 tenplus1 ah, we need more of a game direction before choosing name :P
14:57 benrob0329 "Meseint is a Minetest game"
14:57 benrob0329 tenplus1: its an old name, actually
14:57 benrob0329 So no, I dont think we do :P
14:57 * tenplus1 renames default game to "Bob"
14:58 benrob0329 Nonono, Fred: the video game
14:58 tenplus1 eheheh
15:02 Megaf Hi tenplus1
15:24 TommyTreasure tenplus1, is there a difference in spawn chance using 'mobs:spawn', 'mob:register_spawn' and 'mobs:spawn_specific'?  or, does the quantity of actual 'nodes' come into effect?
15:24 TommyTreasure or - and*
15:24 tenplus1 mobs:spawn was the original function used in simple_mobs all those years back and had limited spawn control over the mobs
15:25 tenplus1 mobs:spawn_specific was made to add better control but the command line was a little hard to remember
15:25 tenplus1 so mobs:spawn was made so it was easier to remember and fills in many blanks for the user]
15:25 tenplus1 *cough* mobs:register_spawn  was the original simple_mobs one... oops
15:26 TommyTreasure i'm more concerned in the actual spawn chance.  for instance, the fox in dmobs on my system is set at 64000, and they are way too abundant.  where other mobs in the same mod seem to be more under control
15:27 tenplus1 the chance will always be the same in all 3 functions
15:27 tenplus1 but the original spawns beside air whereas spawn_specific and mobs:spawn let you choose a neighbor
15:28 tenplus1 so you have more control over where and hwo many appear
15:28 tenplus1 the latest changes to mobs_animal has them spawning on grass blocks near actual grass so they wont just appear in the middle of an empty field
15:28 TommyTreasure ok, then here's another question on that.  my fox is defined to spawn on 2 different nodes.  could that be a cause of spawning at a higher rate?
15:28 rubenwardy mesetint sucks as a name
15:28 rubenwardy slightly better than minetest, but not by much
15:29 tenplus1 hi ruben
15:29 tenplus1 tommy: nope, it'll spawn the same on either of the 2 nodes, what neighbors have you set tho, may i see code for fox
15:30 TommyTreasure mobs:register_spawn("dmobs:fox", {"default:dirt_with_grass","default:dirt"}, 20, 10, 64000, 2, 31000)
15:31 TommyTreasure maybe lowering active_object_count to 1 might help?
15:31 tenplus1 yeah, keep it to 1 in that particular area
15:32 tenplus1 the chance itself is rather high, am surprised you see them at all but default:dirt counts for a lot of landmass, you culd remove that part and leave t to spawn on grass
15:32 tenplus1 also mobs:spawn has a switch to spawn only at night, day or both
15:32 TommyTreasure on the other hand, dragons set at chance 30000 don't seem to spawn at all
15:32 tenplus1 so you can be more specific
15:33 tenplus1 https://github.com/tenplus1/mobs_a​nimal/blob/master/chicken.lua#L95
15:34 TommyTreasure btw, that's the method i'm using on dragons.  that example helps.  thanks
15:35 tenplus1 check out mobs_animal and mobs_monster spawns on my git page :) shows u many features
15:35 TommyTreasure i'm running those too.  afraid to admit the other mob mods i'm running.
15:36 tenplus1 lol, admit away :) it's kewl...
15:36 TommyTreasure lets just say that most mobile devices crash on join
15:36 tenplus1 been playing with the mc_mobs myself :D
15:36 tenplus1 and nssm
15:37 rubenwardy hey
15:37 TommyTreasure i'm running nssm with nssb, water, mosters, npc animals, more animals.  and of course dmobs
15:37 tenplus1 heavy mob usage on server :) the nssm models themselves can be quite huge :D
15:38 TommyTreasure access to my server is by invite only.  too much media to go fully public.  even with remote media
15:39 TommyTreasure not worried about ratings
15:39 tenplus1 lolol
15:39 TommyTreasure err....  rankings
15:39 rubenwardy need more modelers and animators for mobs
15:40 rubenwardy the current animations are meh
15:40 rubenwardy also need engine pathfinding to not suck
15:40 tenplus1 yeah, we need better design models and textures
15:40 rubenwardy I thought about making an NPC mod using areastore to contain the location of objects, and then use a design tree
15:41 rubenwardy like how the sims does it
15:41 TommyTreasure to be honest, i'm surprised my hardware hasn't overheated from the mods
15:41 rubenwardy so you could have villagers do your work
15:41 rubenwardy never got around to it though
15:41 * benrob0329 needs to work on character modeling
15:41 tenplus1 the do_custom function in mob definition could have mobs doing anything ya like :D
15:42 rubenwardy I was told I'd be good at modelling once
15:42 rubenwardy different type of modelling, however
15:42 tenplus1 lol
15:42 benrob0329 Kek
15:42 tenplus1 I aint putting that model in mobs redo
15:42 tenplus1 :p
15:42 rubenwardy I ain't a monster
15:42 rubenwardy or a useful animal
15:42 TommyTreasure hmmmmmm
15:42 tenplus1 leaves npc's
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15:43 benrob0329 A model of rubenwardy modeling
15:43 rubenwardy oh, didn't know mobs redo had NPCs
15:43 tenplus1 hi RobbieF, how's things
15:43 RobbieF hey tenplus1 doing great, how about you?
15:43 benrob0329 o/ RobbieF
15:43 tenplus1 stu could use that for the armor stand... have ruben modelling the armor :D
15:43 RobbieF anyone here made it to the party on Friday?
15:43 TommyTreasure igor hides in one of the npc mods
15:43 RobbieF more than 1,000,000 Turtlecoin were given out!
15:43 RobbieF hey benrob0329!!
15:43 RobbieF how are ya
15:43 rubenwardy RobbieF, so about $0.00001 worth?
15:43 tenplus1 igor is specific to xanadu :) 8 halloween skins for him
15:44 benrob0329 I did not, was educating the rest of the family on crypto :P
15:44 tenplus1 am okies thanks rob, mod work :) you ?
15:44 TommyTreasure he was probably in one of your github repositories
15:44 TommyTreasure and hi RobbieF
15:45 RobbieF been swamped tenplus1
15:45 RobbieF so much going on
15:45 tenplus1 tell a lie, I added Igor to mobs_npc a few months back :) forgot about that
15:45 RobbieF hey tommytreasure!
15:45 tenplus1 am back at work tomorrows, dreading it :P
15:46 rubenwardy web#122
15:46 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/m​inetest.github.io/issues/122 -- Redesign homepage by rubenwardy
15:46 RobbieF rubenwardy, my collection alone on Friday has a USD equivalent to $50, and I expect that will double in value within the next 2-3 weeks.
15:46 * tenplus1 still has 2 bitcoins and cant find the damn key
15:46 RobbieF oh mna
15:46 RobbieF man
15:46 RobbieF I'd be making that a bit of a priority  :D
15:47 * benrob0329 needs to get mining
15:47 rubenwardy kek
15:47 RobbieF everyone had a great weekend I trust?
15:47 tenplus1 even bought a usb floppy drive to check all my disk collection for the .key file
15:47 RobbieF wow
15:47 RobbieF floppy.
15:47 RobbieF harsh
15:47 benrob0329 tenplus1 is the richest out of any of us, but can't find the key to use it
15:48 RobbieF heh
15:48 RobbieF yep
15:48 tenplus1 lol, my own fault for not taking better care of it
15:48 RobbieF I had a friend who, when it was worth only a few bucks, bought 1 single bitcoin just for fun.
15:48 RobbieF He later passed away, and that 1 BTC just sits there....
15:48 rubenwardy that's gutting (@tenplus1)
15:48 RobbieF he never knew how rich he was
15:48 tenplus1 I mined these many years ago :)
15:49 RobbieF unreal
15:49 RobbieF I wish I was on that bandwagon
15:49 benrob0329 If all of us only knew then what we know now
15:49 benrob0329 Wed be rich :D
15:49 rubenwardy you can say that about a lot of things
15:50 RobbieF yep
15:50 tenplus1 lol
15:50 RobbieF But when benrob0329 finally gets the tardis completed, we'll fix all this.
15:50 RobbieF :D
15:50 rubenwardy I'm just happy with the £70 I've made off of silly Minecraft users
15:50 benrob0329 Heh
15:50 rubenwardy My website was second when you googled for "Minecraft mod maker"
15:51 RobbieF wonderful!
15:51 RobbieF mine is first when you google "Bald nerd"
15:51 RobbieF lol
15:52 tenplus1 ehehe, I've been recommending your pixel shadow series to peeps at work, they like it
15:52 RobbieF awesome, thanks tenplus1. We will be bringing it back this spring!
15:53 tenplus1 w00t!
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15:55 tenplus1 hi sniper
15:56 TommyTreasure << has a youtube vid that has had 31k views in 9 years.
15:56 tenplus1 Q. should I add food grouping to all the food items in my mod to make it compatible with ruben's food mod ?
15:56 rubenwardy oh nice
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15:56 rubenwardy tenplus1: probably XD
15:56 rubenwardy food is basically unmaintained atm
15:56 TommyTreasure no!  i've made way too many edits in my copy!  lol
15:57 rubenwardy I'd probably merge PRs though
15:57 tenplus1 yeah, am thinking that...  grizzly's bbq mod is pretty good but uses most of his own items isntead of grouping foods so he can use other mods'
15:59 benrob0329 RobbieF: TPS intro could be a timelapse of you guys building the logo :P
16:01 tenplus1 ooh, that would be awesome
16:16 tenplus1 ruben, should garlic_clove and garlic_bulb have their own groups.. or would it be easier to simple have garlic=1 for the clove part
16:18 benrob0329 Me (browsing the internet): Aww its so cute, I want one!
16:18 tenplus1 lolol
16:18 benrob0329 Also me, later that day: Damit dog! Why are you puking all over the floor?
16:19 tenplus1 ate your shoe
16:20 rubenwardy updated web#122
16:20 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/m​inetest.github.io/issues/122 -- Redesign homepage, replace subgame with game by rubenwardy
16:21 tenplus1 the screenshot needs the new 3d torches in there
16:21 rubenwardy out of scope
16:22 Fixer rubenwardy: have not noticed any changes
16:22 rubenwardy ?
16:22 rubenwardy oh, I've changed other pages
16:22 rubenwardy to change subgame to game"
16:23 Fixer too much empty spacing around "Features"
16:23 Fixer and thats on my 5:4
16:23 Fixer i can only imagine how much is visible on some truncated 16:9-sh-t
16:24 rubenwardy yes
16:24 rubenwardy that's on my todo list
16:24 rubenwardy also thinking it could be removed
16:26 Fixer minetest page is not that bad, come go see those 3 scrolls of empty pages with 3 pictures that has like 20 words in total
16:26 tenplus1 heh
16:28 Fixer there was one youtube video with a guy who ordered site redesign, oh god, what a piece of shit design he got for like 5000$
16:28 tenplus1 eek
16:28 Fixer he had hdpi 16:9, and it was looking ridiculously bad
16:29 benrob0329 rubenwardy: noice
16:29 benrob0329 Only gripe is "near infinite maps"
16:29 benrob0329 But thats not your fault :P
16:30 benrob0329 Idea: Screenshot of the month
16:30 tenplus1 ooh, that woudl be a good idea :)
16:30 benrob0329 They go on the home page :P
16:30 tenplus1 especially with all of the amazing builds on servers
16:31 benrob0329 New screenshots then continue to come in, with different games and texture packs
16:31 benrob0329 We can move older screenshots off
16:35 Megaf rubenwardy: just merge my PR before that one...
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16:36 tenplus1 wb Gael-de-Sailly
16:37 Megaf web#121
16:37 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/m​inetest.github.io/issues/121 -- Channel description improvements 2. by Megaf
16:38 Fixer i agree that 65000x65000x65000 is enough for 99%
16:39 Fixer if you look into large and long lasting servers, they can easily fit into 4000x65000x4000
16:39 benrob0329 Challenge: remake the MT website with no JS or CSS framework
16:40 Fixer benrob0329: in plain html4
16:40 benrob0329 Fixer: no, 5
16:41 benrob0329 5 has a lot of useful features to cut down in JS iirc
16:50 benrob0329 O/ sfan5
16:51 tenplus1 wb sfan
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16:55 tenplus1 o/ paramat
17:03 Fixer o\
17:04 tenplus1 erk, is github under ddos attack, it's damn slow uploading
17:05 Megaf Is there any doc anywhere on how to apply a texture pack to a server?
17:06 tenplus1 hi Megaf
17:06 Megaf Hi tenplus1 :)
17:08 tenplus1 texture_path = /foo/blah
17:08 tenplus1 in .conf file
17:21 tenplus1 food_ groups added to farming redo, mobs redo/animals, wine and ethereal mods for better crafting recipes
17:25 Megaf cheers tenplus1
17:27 tenplus1 lol rubenwardy, you might just have started something here :)
17:28 rubenwardy oh god
17:28 rubenwardy what?
17:28 tenplus1 Grizzly and myself have adhered to the Ruben standard in food grouping :)
17:28 rubenwardy yay
17:28 tenplus1 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.ph​p?f=11&amp;t=19324&amp;p=314153#p314144
17:28 rubenwardy the food support code is also licensed under WTFPL
17:28 rubenwardy so you can use it to support ingredients which don't have nice groups
17:29 tenplus1 would be nice if you made a forum post to ask modders to think about supporting food groups
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18:21 tenplus1 hi CWz
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18:36 Krock hi tenplus1
18:36 Krock WOOOSH
18:42 tenplus1 Hi krock :))
18:42 tenplus1 All foody recipes in Ethereal, Farming Redo now use food groups for compatibility :)
18:44 * tenplus1 has adhered to the Ruben standards of food crafting :P
18:54 tenplus1 also hi Peppy and Cwz...  :P was pre-occupied with food for too long there :P
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18:54 tenplus1 hi Darcidride_
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19:05 tenplus1 wb Krock
19:06 Krock ty tenplus1
19:06 tenplus1 ever been on minds.com yet ?
19:06 Krock vsauce eventually?
19:07 tenplus1 nah, forum site with no limitations and crypto points... quite good :)
19:07 Krock $1 = 1,000 points
19:07 Krock why not the opposite? I want money
19:07 tenplus1 it is :)  get 10,000 points viewing and using forums and get $10 in your account
19:09 * tenplus1 has 9.52k points :P
19:09 Krock simbabwe "dollars" or US dollars? that makes a difference
19:09 tenplus1 usd
19:10 Krock wow nice but that means they need to generate that money somehow by paying users, showing ads and/or selling data
19:10 tenplus1 not just that, but a lot of content youtube doesnt like, so some interesting reads :) sciencey stuff and views etc
19:10 tenplus1 it's all open-source, can read how they do it prolly
19:11 benrob0329 tenplus1: its not completely open source yet
19:11 benrob0329 Iirc anyways
19:12 tenplus1 :) so far so good, totally hated facebook
19:12 Megaf Hey, VSauce! Megaf here
19:12 tenplus1 ahahaha
19:14 benrob0329 tenplus1: to explain my earlier comment
19:14 benrob0329 My dog threw up, what seemed to be dirt
19:15 benrob0329 Like, just plain old dirt
19:15 benrob0329 As in he went outside and consumed part of the yard
19:15 tenplus1 erk, seems like he's got some weird cravings :P
19:15 benrob0329 "Quit snorting dirt!'
19:17 tenplus1 lol
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19:22 tenplus1 hi redblade
19:40 Fixer sofar: you have a secret plan for new subgame (aka game)? i've read your comment and it felt like you want to start a new thing, but why don't you start it sooner than later? buzy office work?
20:07 sofar combination of things
20:08 tenplus1 o/
20:08 sofar I'm actually enjoying taking care of a bunch of projects that I've deployed
20:08 sofar like itb and the prms
20:08 tenplus1 kill bots ?
20:09 sofar mostly I need to not get ahead of myself with the little amount I have reserved for MT related stuff I'd like to do
20:09 tenplus1 doesnt mars have 26 hours in a day ?!?!  hrmmm
20:09 sofar yes
20:10 tenplus1 2 extra hours to do things...
20:10 sofar I'd probably spend the 2 extra hours sleeping
20:11 tenplus1 the first hour could be an extended tea time...  :)  the other I dunno yet, woudl find something
20:25 sofar I've also been busy with other stuff, not to mention work, other games, oh and it's tax season again
20:25 tenplus1 ouch, tax season is bad enough
20:29 Shara only 26 hours?
20:29 tenplus1 hi Shara
20:29 Shara I think we need to go further than Mars...
20:29 Shara Hi all :)
20:29 tenplus1 o/
20:40 Megaf Mind the offtipic
20:41 tenplus1 :P
20:41 * Shara sends Megaf to Mars
20:41 Shara What was that?
20:42 * tenplus1 wonders how paramat's layering mapgen is coming along...
20:42 * Megaf gravity slingshots around and comes flying hot as a rocket back at Shara
20:43 Shara I'm looking forward to seeing him work on controlling which biome players spawn in
20:43 tenplus1 yeah I saw some of the spawn changes in git :) interesting
20:43 Shara Well... it's a thing I need :)
20:43 Megaf Not breaking my super cool /spawn command I'm cool with it
20:43 * tenplus1 spawns all new players in da swamp
20:44 Megaf really?
20:44 Shara It should just affect where players start if you don't set a spawn point yourself
20:44 tenplus1 :P
20:44 Shara lol tenplus1
20:44 tenplus1 gotta add a shrek model to tell them to get back out again
20:44 Megaf I used to have a maze players have to solve in order to join the world
20:44 Megaf the maze was 1000s meter underground
20:44 CWz Sherk mobs
20:45 Megaf to find the right way players should anser questions
20:45 Megaf each answer was a path
20:45 Shara Well, if I started players in the library maze, I'd simply have no players.
20:45 tenplus1 I DO like the idea of a basic task all new players need to complete so their player file is saved for next login and not removed on logout
20:45 Megaf right answer, right pat, wrong answer, drop into lava
20:45 CWz what if they don't know da wae
20:45 tenplus1 then they can ask...
20:46 tenplus1 "do you kno da wae"  "halp, am noob"
20:46 Shara I'm still considering one day replacing /ban with /maze.. only of course, you'll get the hacked client users... But having t he patience to find your way out of there would be  enough to earn a second chance
20:46 tenplus1 lol
20:46 Megaf in my case, we would just leave them there and they would eventually either give up and leave or get angry, aggressive nad impolite, at this point they would be sent to jail and banned
20:46 tenplus1 would be fun tho
20:53 tenplus1 nite all o/
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22:00 sofar itb is essentially a "maze runner" game :D
23:48 Fixer yes
23:52 Calinou Shara: I know someone who got banned from a TF2 server, they could come back if they watched the first two episodes of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic (they had to write a summary that's not copy-pasted from somewhere to prove it)
23:52 Calinou they were eventually unbanned. :P
23:53 Fixer Calinou: now thats creepy
23:53 Fixer AF
23:53 Fixer that's
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