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IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2018-02-12

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00:06 Fixer with tentacles
00:33 RoaryTiger you what mate?
00:34 red-001 RoaryTiger, you heard the anime pope "Japanese Jesus with tentacles"
00:35 * red-001 calls for a reformation and nails stuff to a door
00:35 red-001 <RoaryTiger> I will be using this nick for the forerable future
00:36 red-001 I mean I don't disagree with only the next hour being easy to forsee
00:36 PumpkinHead There we go
00:36 PumpkinHead You couldn't foresee this change, could you? So there you have it. :P
00:42 PumpkinHead Sopitfy audio quality is terrible
00:42 PumpkinHead trying to listen to Symphony No.9 but it hurts my ears
00:46 PumpkinHead much better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqGA5rjLxT8
00:46 PumpkinHead !title
00:46 MinetestBot PumpkinHead: Mozart - Rondo Alla Turca orchestra version - YouTube
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13:26 MinetestBot Mr_Pardison: Feb-09 22:27 UTC <Fixer> i see a saw charge change, it should probably be out of this PR
13:27 Mr_Pardison Fixer: saw charge change?
13:27 Mr_Pardison will have to take a look at the PR I put out since I ca't recall this.
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13:35 Mr_Pardison found it.
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14:30 Mr_Pardison I will need to see if the power level works at 30k to cut down a whole redwood tree or if it takes 300k to do so since they are so large.
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15:28 IhrFussel https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=6&amp;t=19642
15:28 IhrFussel Wasn't that fixed in recent MT versions? Sounds like the guy is using a old one
15:32 Fixer Why it's hard to find a good popular server these days (7 NOV 2012)
15:32 Fixer thats were minetest can get in
15:33 Fixer from what I see, mc is full of cancer, with raped servers full of crates, ranks, constant votings, reeeing, campers, grief
15:33 Fixer you can hardly find a good server that is not reset each damn year or your data removed after 2 month of afk
15:33 Mr_Pardison I agree.
15:34 Fixer and here comes minetest
15:34 Fixer minetest servers today are pretty much best minecraft of golden era
15:34 Fixer pure
15:34 Fixer without that profit cancer
15:35 Fixer and voting, blah, diamond kits, ranks for donators...
15:35 Fixer you pretty much have classic old good days, but in minetest
15:37 Fixer now what MTG needs, is a bit polish, get those basic gameplay stuff finished, tools in hands, some mobs, armour, machinery+rocketry, avoiding overblowing it, fancy up biomes, more tree schematics, throwing api with bows, arrows, it like mc beta golden days, but polished and not direct copy, with own direction
15:37 Fixer a m b i e n c e, a little wind, maybe, cave sound, DO NOT RAIN OFTEN
15:37 Fixer rain is somewhat rare, it annoyce a lot of people it seems
15:38 Fixer snow is nice, should be the way as in MC, creates vibe
15:38 Fixer do not make direct copy of MC, take good stuff and leave that nether/end/rpg cancer away
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15:42 Fixer automation will be nice to have, those switches, plates, a lot of smart people love it, we should aim for smart but simple
15:42 Fixer do not lure cancerous kids in
15:42 Mr_Pardison the horror.
15:42 Fixer only for adult, only golden-era-mc-like-but-differ​ent-yet-still-good-experience
15:43 IhrFussel Levels in MT can actually be fun...on my server you level up to have more HP and do more damage ... and your tamed pets can level up too and join you as companion against baddies
15:44 Fixer also, sofar is right, 32k limit is dumb, it is useable for other completely different subgames, I have impression, to have good server you actually need very narrow limit aka 3000x3000x3000 at most
15:44 IhrFussel I'm guessing "rpg crap" was refering to players having levels
15:44 Fixer yes
15:45 IhrFussel MC levels make no sense, AFAIK they do not increase any stats
15:45 Fixer IhrFussel: not sure about levels (maybe it is good idea, but how it will work?), but stuff like potions, brewing, that feels wrong for MT
15:45 Fixer G
15:45 Mr_Pardison just shows how much time one has wasted for that.
15:46 IhrFussel Are levels in MC still only used for magic potions/spells and are pretty much the currency?
15:47 Mr_Pardison no clue as I have never played MC.
15:47 Fixer IhrFussel: not really, levels are used for enchanting and repairing stuff
15:47 IhrFussel Last time I watched a video of someone playing it was a few years ago and "EXP" was just like money
15:48 Fixer in MC today everything is money, don't forget to vote everyday and receive 10 diamonds for free, now that is cancer
15:48 IhrFussel But do you still lose EXP for that stuff? It's not a real level system then to me
15:49 IhrFussel More like job points in rpgs ... you spent job points to unlock new skills
15:50 IhrFussel spend*
15:50 Mr_Pardison IMO, a real level system unlocks new item types and stuff when you get to the next level.
15:51 Fixer IhrFussel: yes, you loose EXP when you repair or enchant
15:51 IhrFussel A real level system to me is permanent and doesn't decrease if you buy something in the game... you can lose EXP when you die but that's it
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15:52 Fixer personally i really like moving roguelike aspect of potions/scrools/stuffs/wands/spells into minetest subgame, but probably not in MTG, that will be too extreme
15:52 Mr_Pardison Fixer: have you heard of a game called pixel dungeon?
15:53 IhrFussel I think it#s cool on my server how a level 1 player sees a level 30 one killing a huge mob and thinking "wow someday I'll be as strong as him"
15:53 Fixer Mr_Pardison: yes, thats very typical example of roguelike game, pretty known one
15:53 Fixer classic one
15:53 Fixer but nothing beats BROGUE
15:54 Fixer masterpiece, simple, fun, hard, nice looking, nice UI, best classic ever
15:54 IhrFussel I'm thinking about ading some type of party system to the server... but that could be complicated
15:54 Fixer Mr_Pardison: actually I prefer Shattered one, PD has that really bad weapon degeneration thing
15:55 Mr_Pardison undegraded pixel dungeon from the chrome webstore doesn't have that.
15:55 Mr_Pardison items never wear out.
15:58 Calinou is it useful to report bugs against 0.4.16? (I don't know if it applies to 0.5.0, but it is very likely)
15:59 Calinou mouse look isn't responsive to small mouse movements, which makes it really annoying to use
15:59 Calinou (perhaps due to a floating-point precision error)
15:59 Calinou I'm using `mouse_sensitivity = 0.07` in minetest.conf on Linux, with mouse acceleration set to a flat profile
16:00 Calinou it happens mostly vertically, less so horizontally
16:41 Fixer "we only allow quality players"
16:41 Fixer >_>
16:41 Hijiri where
16:42 Mr-Pardison can they even define "quality"?
16:47 Fixer minecraft online server turned into crap very quickly, it seems, like 5 years ago minimum, we still have quality :}
16:51 Fixer servers*
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17:17 Calinou fog_start = 1.0: https://lut.im/Iun0MY2KTO/L0XoNb5bUF9F6TY6.png
17:17 Calinou :D
17:17 Calinou (with view range 20)
17:19 Raven262 Hi Calinou
17:27 PumpkinHead !server Megaf
17:27 MinetestBot PumpkinHead: Megaf Server v4 | 163.172.154.119:30003 | Clients: 2/20, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.17-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 12ms
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18:17 Fixer looool, unban for cash
18:17 Fixer bestest cancer
18:30 red-001 didn't some new ToS ban that in minecraft?
18:31 red-001 let me guess they just ignore that and never enforce it?
18:33 Calinou red-001: probably
18:33 Calinou (unless the server gets really large)
18:41 Fixer cracked server
18:41 Fixer but it is everywhere it seems
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20:09 Sokomine Fixer: i only know about levels on that old mc creative server (not the survival version). with a higher level came more worldedit-like commands. progress in level was achieved by building good structures and presenting them to moderators. larger creations where presented in a forum and valuable feedback was given on what might be improved. i liked that a lot (the feedback) and often miss it in mt
20:13 Sokomine Fixer: the levels there where even useful. new players started building block-by-block and then achieved wall-building commands; commands for copying and mirroring came much later
20:17 * twoelk never was on a public minecraft server but some private ones
20:20 * Calinou was on a lot of public Minecraft servers
20:21 Calinou not a lot of them had good people
20:23 twoelk the fact I never paid for mc might have stopped me from going too public too often
20:30 PumpkinHead !server The System Killer
20:30 MinetestBot PumpkinHead: No results
20:31 Fixer you gotta be kidding me, you can BUY admin or moderator rank
20:33 Fixer Calinou: try this one http://minecraftonline.com/
20:34 Calinou I think I've played on this one, a long time ago
20:34 Calinou late 2011-early 2012
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20:34 Calinou (1.0-1.1)
20:34 Calinou yep, I definitely have
20:36 PumpkinHead !server The System
20:36 MinetestBot PumpkinHead: The System Killer | 163.172.154.119:30003 | Clients: 1/20, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.17-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 11ms
20:37 PumpkinHead Join at your ownrisk and watch your RAM usage climb pass 2 GB
20:38 * Calinou has 16 GB of RAM
20:38 Calinou I am behind 7 CPU cores!
20:39 Calinou (actually, just 4…)
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20:48 Sokomine Fixer: sure you can buy admin rank - if you run your own server. moderator rank...what'd be the point? people paying now to be allowed to do work? :-)
20:49 * Sokomine waves a valueless minegeld paper note at fixer
20:49 Fixer Calinou: reminded me with that behind 7 proxies and this https://youtu.be/jziQBWQxvok?t=598
20:50 Fixer Sokomine: it is forbidden by EULA
20:50 Fixer Sokomine: if server owner wants Donation, let it be, but without affecting gameplay, otherwise it becames shitmess
20:51 Fixer and if you see MC servers - they are shits for profit pretty much
20:51 Fixer in a bad way
20:51 Fixer good luck finding good server
20:52 Calinou one of the wiki pages of the server you linked has doxed an user (it's still up today)…
20:52 Calinou it shows the menality of some of the Minecraft server admins out there
20:52 Calinou mentality*
20:53 Fixer Calinou: yeah
20:53 Fixer sad
20:53 Fixer it is like, HOLY SHIT, Minetest servers are actually good
20:54 twoelk not only good but indeed friendly places
20:56 Mr-Pardison very friendly if you find the right one.
21:02 Fixer it is pretty easy to find
21:03 Mr-Pardison true.
21:03 Mr-Pardison g2g will brb
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21:39 paramat why (off)?
21:40 Mr_Pardison forgot to flip the switch to the 'on' position :P
21:41 Mr_Pardison https://github.com/cordial-cobra/technic
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21:45 Mr_Pardison Need to see if the charge level should be at 300k which is where it is set for mine or should be kept at 30k (which is the default) since a redwood tree is so big.
21:57 twoelk so many tree mods that might want to be added :P  https://wiki.minetest.net/Mods:Nature
21:58 Mr_Pardison once you have finished testing it, I'd like to know whether the charge level for the chainsaw should be at 300k or 30k for cutting down a redwood.
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22:04 IhrFussel Seems like a party system is more difficult than I thought...if a player joins or leaves the party I need to update all other player attributes to store the new member names, but if one of them is offline at that time it won't work
22:11 Sokomine most mt servers are indeed very friendly places. i'm very thankful for their existence and try to give back by building at least something small (sometimes plans are too big and time too little sadly)
22:12 IhrFussel Looks like mod storage could fix my issue
22:12 Sokomine IhrFussel: yes, store it elsewhere and not in the players as such. how are they supposed to join groups anyway?
22:13 IhrFussel Via commands of course... /invite <player> /pok (to accept) /leave
22:14 IhrFussel I want to display the party info in a new inventory tab
22:16 IhrFussel Will storage:get_string() return "" instead of nil if non-existent?
22:17 sfan5 probably
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22:53 Fixer reading about new amd apus
22:55 Fixer i should say, it is DAMN impressive
22:56 Fixer it is ideal for Sokomine, maybe a bit hot
23:02 Fixer it is not itty, but good value for such budget
23:04 Fixer like integrated, but for real now
23:04 Fixer with good fps in minetest
23:06 Fixer performance near GT 1030
23:14 Fixer 2x-3x faster than intel integrated
23:15 Fixer mostly 3x+ faster
23:18 celeron55 how's linux support for new amd apus?
23:27 Fixer no idea
23:28 Fixer phoronix will test it soon
23:38 Fixer https://www.techspot.com/review/1574-amd-r​yzen-5-2400g-and-ryzen-3-2200g/page4.html
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23:55 lumberJ juh

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