Time Nick Message 00:02 tumeninodes omg can't handle the stream lag. I'll just wait n watch laters 00:04 Fixer MY CORE IS YOUR CORE MY CORE IS MIIIIIIINE 00:04 Fixer damn that chat is cancerous 00:04 Fixer finally he speaks 00:05 red-001 !title 00:05 MinetestBot red-001: LIVE: Space X News Conference after SUCCESSFUL Falcon Heavy Launch, Most Powerful Rocket - YouTube 00:15 * sofar throws some oil on the minecore fire 00:15 tumeninodes uh oh 00:16 sofar I don't like this tip-toeing the line, really 00:17 tumeninodes understandable 00:20 Fixer everyone spams core in chat 00:20 tumeninodes in other news, I am starting the first church of Elon... care to join? 00:21 tumeninodes they will probably garner more attention being viewed as underdogs 00:26 red-001 I think a church of Elon would be pretty popular 00:26 red-001 isn't there one somewhere already? 00:27 tumeninodes do not... poop on my parade 00:27 * tumeninodes searches church of Elon 00:27 red-001 http://muskanism.com/elon.html 00:27 tumeninodes you beat me to it... 00:28 tumeninodes I am less than happy right now 00:30 tumeninodes red-001 has crushed my dreamz... thanks red 00:30 red-001 covenant of starman? 00:30 tumeninodes :. 00:37 tumeninodes Rocketman... oh wait... that's already taken 00:38 tumeninodes boy sofar, you sure do rub the oil in deep :P 00:46 sofar I'm just observing everything that has the essence of a hostile fork 00:47 Fixer we are observing your fork 00:48 tumeninodes the oddest/somewhat suspicious aspect for me is a new member of two mos..., starting a fork but, maybe thats just me 00:50 sofar step 1: say "we're not a fork" 00:50 sofar step 2: fork minetest 00:50 sofar step 3: ??? 00:50 sofar I'm just waiting for underpants gnomes 00:50 tumeninodes wth is wrong with underpants gnomes? you got a problem dude? :D 00:52 Fixer sofar: forks are fine, there will be always not satisfied people, and if they succeed, some stuff can be merged back 01:01 rubenwardy oh cool, a private space race 01:01 rubenwardy SpaceX vs Boeing 01:01 tumeninodes Boeing is dead, they just don;t know it 01:03 Fixer so good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBr2kKAHN6M 01:04 Fixer it is a new meme, 100% 01:07 tumeninodes that meme could sure feed and house a lot of homeless and hungry children... 01:07 tumeninodes just sayin 01:08 Fixer I even made some screenshots 01:31 Fixer eh, more epic screenshot 01:31 Fixer s 01:34 Fixer epic 01:37 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/Ph6pfTL.png 03:22 tumeninodes Fixer, https://youtu.be/rYy_XJpI6uk?t=63 this is from 1981 03:26 tumeninodes saw that the week it came out. I was approx 12-13 yo, we snuck into (sneaked?) into the venue from another pg one :P this was considered "racy" back then 03:27 tumeninodes and with that..., gnite everybody 03:32 ircSparky is there a way to do table.clone in minetest? 03:33 ircSparky more specifically, a position 03:36 ircSparky nvm :P 05:08 Megaf Heya, whos awake? 05:16 Megaf rubenwardy: I will do some tests with this new ARM dedi today, then I might leave kimsufi and use the ARM instead 05:16 Megaf I lowered my Linode price to 5 USD/month anyway 05:16 Megaf so then ARM dedicated + Linode will be cheaper than Kimsufi dedicated 05:17 Megaf Tho I wont have nearly as much storage as Kimsufi 12:42 Fixer sofar: i believe nobody imported any good changes from freeminer since it was proclaimed dead 13:07 PumpkinHead Good day all 13:08 twoelk o/ 13:12 Megaf Hi ThomasMonroe 13:13 ThomasMonroe hi Megaf 13:23 red-001 !seen kilbith 13:23 MinetestBot red-001: kilbith was last seen at 2017-08-13 00:09:55 UTC on #minetest-fr 13:23 red-001 !seen #minetest-hub kilbith 13:23 MinetestBot red-001: Sorry, I haven't seen #minetest-hub around. 13:23 red-001 ~seen #minetest-hub kilbith 13:23 ShadowBot red-001: I saw kilbith in #minetest-hub 36 weeks, 2 days, 17 hours, 14 minutes, and 54 seconds ago saying "Fixer, I hope he won't live that old" 13:49 celeron55 https://www.reddit.com/r/golang/comments/7vv9zz/popular_lib_gobindata_removed_from_github_or_why/ 13:49 celeron55 noice 13:50 celeron55 people will never learn 13:51 Mr_Pardison https://www.reddit.com/r/Minetest/comments/58ml1q/a_controllable_hydroelectric_plant_built_using/ 13:51 Mr_Pardison !title 13:51 MinetestBot Mr_Pardison: A controllable hydroelectric plant built using lua controllers and digiline. : Minetest 13:51 Mr_Pardison I'd like to try and make that myself. 14:09 Calinou celeron55: no such thing as zero risk 14:09 Calinou >Yet another reason to vendor and commit your dependencies. 14:09 Calinou that would not be very practical with npm :) 14:10 Calinou people seem to have a problem with "no warranty" as of late :) 14:12 Megaf nerzhul: Hi there, you have that TCP (ish) branch URL handy? 14:12 celeron55 well, if you can't vendor and commit, you're basically locked out from other than silly hobby projects 14:12 celeron55 so good luck to npm 14:14 nerzhul Megaf what do you mean ? 14:14 Megaf Not sure 14:14 Megaf Not even sure if you are the guy 14:15 Megaf nerzhul: there was a branch implementing TCP and other protocol for Minetest 14:15 Megaf there is a PR for it too 14:15 Megaf I just can't login to Github now, so it's a little complicated finding it 14:15 nerzhul Megaf, see my ASIO pr 14:16 nerzhul celeron55 ouch, but it's logical. If somes have this problem they should clone all deps to a local repository (like a private gitlab instance) and use it 15:28 Calinou celeron55: it looks like plenty of non-hobby projects use npm 15:28 Calinou and Cargo, Pypi, and so on 15:28 Calinou Composer too 16:03 nerzhul maven, gradle, godep 16:10 Fixer npm and js in general is cancer 16:26 Fixer http://www.amiga.org/forums/customavatars/avatar265_1.gif 18:29 rubenwardy !seen tenplus1 18:29 MinetestBot rubenwardy: tenplus1 was last seen at 2018-02-06 21:10:00 UTC on #minetest-hub 18:33 celeron55 Calinou: yeah, and that is a problem 18:40 rubenwardy https://i.rubenwardy.com/tLcy0zMuWf.jpg 18:48 benrob0329 celeron55: why u no SSL? 18:52 Jordach rubenwardy: lmao 18:52 Jordach got to watch that live last night 18:52 Mr_Pardison Jordach: same. 18:52 Mr_Pardison was soooo awesome to see the boosters land. 18:53 Jordach Mr_Pardison: the only thing that played in my mind was the NBA games BOOMSHAKALAKA 18:53 Mr_Pardison lol 18:56 rubenwardy https://twitter.com/rubenwardy/status/961266726905278464 18:56 rubenwardy !title 18:56 MinetestBot rubenwardy: rubenwardy op Twitter: "Hey @MotionBristol, how about not asking customers to send their credit card and personal information over an unencrypted conn[...] 19:05 benrob0329 Eww Twitter 19:05 benrob0329 Get on Mastodon boii 19:17 rubenwardy benrob0329, https://i.rubenwardy.com/HHIqotIZuI.png 19:17 rubenwardy also, "our site is checked daily for additional piece of mind" 19:17 rubenwardy piece of mind 19:17 rubenwardy piece 19:17 rubenwardy PIECE 19:18 Mr_Pardison rubenwardy: the spelling police person in you comes out with that. 19:18 rubenwardy reminds me of a scam email with all the spelling mistakes 19:18 Krock probably google translator from another website 19:19 benrob0329 rubenwardy: gotta admit though, thats a sad example of modern technology 19:20 rubenwardy anyone know somewhere you can report websites like this? 19:20 rubenwardy there must be some regulatory body for that 19:37 Mr-Pardison hello paramat 19:42 * paramat checks for pieces of brain 19:43 Jordach ...all accounted for 19:59 Fixer crap, why did not I bookmark that issue with typing t e x t in formspecs 20:01 Fixer found it, fix avail, ok 20:43 celeron55 https://i.imgur.com/N9ZuM4H.png 20:43 sfan5 c55 posting memes? what is this 20:47 celeron55 from now on, this will always come into your mind when reading the minecore topic 20:47 rubenwardy :O 20:49 ThomasMonroe ?? 20:49 ThomasMonroe I don't get it 20:49 celeron55 :D 20:49 rubenwardy fun fact: not possible in UK plugs 20:49 celeron55 2deep 20:50 sofar should I stop replying to that thread? 20:50 sofar [yes/no/why?] 20:51 celeron55 reply that in the thread 20:51 rubenwardy yes 20:51 celeron55 that makes you a winner 20:51 shivajiva too far apart , turn the fork around and force it in the rhs 20:52 paramat those sockets are cute 20:52 sofar rhs? 20:52 shivajiva right hand side 20:52 rubenwardy sofar: are you planning on releasing filter to the forum at some point? 20:52 sofar rubenwardy: I didn't? 20:53 sofar wut 20:53 sofar I failed to cash in on potential internet points? 20:53 rubenwardy :D 20:53 rubenwardy well, no internet points 20:53 rubenwardy there's no upvoting 20:53 rubenwardy just potential shitposters 20:54 rubenwardy I guarantee Wuzzy will comment in it at some point for his crusade against swear banning 20:54 sfan5 *reads topic* 20:54 * celeron55 needs to consider designing shitpostcoin, a new mineable currency 20:55 rubenwardy urgh 20:55 rubenwardy mining is objectively bad 20:55 ThomasMonroe lol 20:55 celeron55 but mining shitposts 20:55 celeron55 that's a whole new thing 20:55 rubenwardy well, I'm just pissed that GPUs are so expensive 20:55 sofar celeron55: it'll be the only coin designed to drive itself to zero value! 20:55 rubenwardy f*ck miners 20:55 celeron55 :D 20:56 sofar rubenwardy: ADVERTISEMENT Just use intel HD GFX ADVERTISEMENT 20:56 shivajiva we'd all be rich though, that's the point :P 20:56 shivajiva just have to know when to step off =) 20:56 benrob0329 sofar: incomplete with OGL 3.0 support :^)) 20:57 rubenwardy please can everyone just be nice in the minecore topic 20:57 rubenwardy no matter how doubtful you are of its potential success XD 20:58 benrob0329 I just dont understand it 20:58 celeron55 we're just scared for them 20:58 sofar I feel my replies are reasonably "noninsulting" 20:58 ThomasMonroe good news though, they are talking about starting a new engine from scratch 20:58 ThomasMonroe so no worries about cloning Minetest :D 20:58 shivajiva 'reasonably' 20:58 benrob0329 I mean I understand it, but I dont understand why they don't understand 20:58 ThomasMonroe wdym benrob0329? 20:59 sofar shivajiva: I'm being pretty good here, I'm really not calling names or anything 20:59 sofar "naive" is about as bad of a word as I have used 20:59 shivajiva heh I know, just teasing lol 21:00 * sofar is naive 21:00 celeron55 really i did start MT basically with their attitude 21:00 Calinou turns out it'll be an Unity game 21:00 Calinou oh wait… 21:00 celeron55 if they're good, they can reach the same 21:00 shivajiva it was 50/50 which way you'd go with that :) 21:00 sofar there are legitimate reasons to "fuck it, fork it" 21:00 sofar they're forking it for the wrong reason 21:00 Calinou benrob0329: latest Intel IGPs (Skylake and later) have OpenGL 4.6 on Windows, OpenGL 4.5 on Linux 21:01 sofar they're not even forking for any reason, even 21:01 sofar that's too many evens 21:01 celeron55 the good reason to forking is "i just want all control over this, now, and it doesn't matter if it will be better" 21:01 sfan5 sofar: new xeons have fpgas right? can't you mine on those? 21:01 Calinou https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_HD_and_Iris_Graphics#Capabilities 21:02 sofar sfan5: shrug, I dunno 21:02 benrob0329 > there are some functions missing that could have been added a long time ago 21:02 shivajiva gotta learn the hard way sometimes and it might produce something interesting as c55 noted 21:02 ThomasMonroe guys, i was listening to them talking last night, one of the main reasons they are making it is because players are getting tired of MC controlling MC and want a valid alternative/clone/whatever 21:02 benrob0329 Then code them 21:02 sofar I LOL'd hard when I saw the cython issue on their github, though 21:02 benrob0329 TommyTreasure: then make a game for Mt 21:02 celeron55 yeah, it's about time for cython! 21:03 sofar step 1: propose cloud castle 21:03 celeron55 why isn't everyone hyped already 21:03 sofar step 2: watch bronies swarm to you 21:03 paramat 'MC controlling MC'? 21:03 sfan5 'M$ controlling MC' probably 21:03 ThomasMonroe Microsoft controlling MineCraft 21:03 Calinou sofar: I didn't get the joke :( 21:04 shivajiva $ is controlling everyone 21:04 sfan5 here it's € rather 21:04 Calinou microdollars should be a cryptocurrency 21:04 sfan5 ;) 21:04 ThomasMonroe lol 21:04 sofar if you say "there will be unicorns", you're going to attract rainbows 21:06 ThomasMonroe and tbh Minetest doesn't even come close to what the players of MC want to see, so MineCore/orwhatevertheywillnameit is aiming at being that game that the MC players are drawn to 21:06 ThomasMonroe and thus drawing players closer to where Minetest is 21:06 sofar content... content before engine improvements 21:06 celeron55 i like the marketing towards outside of anything that MT has reached before 21:06 sofar go play "inside the box" and tell me it failed because the engine needs changes 21:06 celeron55 let's just hope it benefits us 21:07 sofar or even mcl2 21:08 Calinou I'm fairly sure the cobblestone texture displayed on the Minecore topic is edited from Minecraft 21:08 Calinou or at least, it looks very similar 21:10 sfan5 probably just from a MC texture packs, meaning it was designed to look similar 21:10 celeron55 it has some obvious problems 21:10 celeron55 like the fact that the name isn't unqiue in the slightest 21:11 ThomasMonroe sofar they are well aware of the game developmentprocess 21:11 rubenwardy toby made that 21:11 sfan5 that only makes me more worried about copyright concerns 21:11 celeron55 (probably tens of MC-related projects with that name) 21:11 sfan5 for some reason... 21:12 Fixer 9.5th Generation, kek 21:12 Megaf apt install libncursesw5-dev libbz2-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev git-core cmake build-essential, am I missing anything?sqlite, luajit and irrlicht will be built from source, json and gmp will use builtin 21:12 sfan5 are you building a client? 21:13 Megaf server 21:13 Fixer that feel when you bought intel CPU without integrated 21:13 sfan5 Megaf: you won't need libbz2-dev and you don't need to compile irrlicht (just the headers are fine) 21:13 Fixer 5 years ago, and now your card is dead, but you found older card that is still faster then integrated what you did not buy, crysis avoided 21:13 Megaf oh, cool 21:14 Megaf actually I will use built in lua this time 21:14 Megaf sfan5: preping an decited ARM server for some tests 21:40 sofar ThomasMonroe: it seems all their criticism is focussed on mtg development, not *engine* development 21:41 sofar at least, that's the conclusion I draw up from what they "want" 21:41 benrob0329 ^^ 21:43 sofar and frankly, who cares? if you're already making a "game", you're gonna want to start from scratch 21:43 sofar e.g. mcl2, itb 21:50 red-001 rubenwardy, they seem to have an expired cert and I guess they "fixed" that by disabling redirecting http to https 21:52 benrob0329 Thats...thats discussing 21:52 benrob0329 *disgusting 21:55 rubenwardy need to make my tweet go viral and shame them into fixing it 21:55 sofar enough reason to close shop 21:55 sofar lol 21:56 rubenwardy also, any one I can report this to? Would be crazy if there's no body for online security 21:57 sofar 4chan 21:58 rubenwardy ha 21:58 rubenwardy that would work, but I'd probably get doxed in the process 21:59 Fixer looool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aVjXGmmHdk 21:59 Fixer sofar: yeah, mtg 22:01 red-001 rubenwardy, how else would 4chan send you the prize money for reporting it? 22:06 Fixer sofar: ####### is speading up though 22:10 Fixer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWMPe3wF9jQ 22:17 Fixer speeding* 22:23 paramat good grief Linuxdirk ... 22:24 red-001 what did my favourite user do this time? 22:24 paramat just the usual :] just realised they are 4w, makes sense 22:25 red-001 paramat, oh that newest issue? 22:25 red-001 the start up ascii stuff one? 22:25 red-001 I have a script that filters that 22:25 paramat no i was reading the minecore thread 22:26 red-001 I literaly don't see whatever they say unless someone qoutes them 22:27 sofar can you ignore people on the forum? 22:27 sofar I'd like to ignore everyone 22:27 paramat you can, set a 'foe' 22:27 Shara sofar, that's what bans are for if you can't stay away :D 22:27 red-001 you can put them on the foes list but I just made a script that uses the magic of jquery select and .hide 22:28 sofar I need that 22:28 Shara But being more serious, there are a lot of very ignore-worthy people posting there. 22:28 red-001 https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26538078/ 22:29 * sofar throws azekill on the foe list 22:31 paramat rubenwardy perhaps you could give azekill a warning? 22:31 Shara DO I dar ask what he did this time? 22:31 Shara Do I dare* 22:31 paramat i have them as foe too, worse than linuxdirk 22:31 paramat more irritating i mean 22:32 paramat just the usual 22:33 paramat seems to be the only one of the previous primary s***posters who hasn't changed their ways 22:34 * red-001 wonders will there be another big "I'm leaving minetest" thread due to toby 22:34 red-001 like that bbmine one that didn't go anywhere 22:34 paramat or rather, a warning may be useless with azekill 22:35 sofar Shara: nothing recent, just too small SNR 22:35 paramat seems azekill had a tempban before, needs a longer one 22:35 Shara My eyes just bypass his posts usually. 22:36 sofar I really like following the screenshot thread 22:37 sofar but 75% of it is dumb comments on previous screenshots, without trimming the reply 22:37 sofar which makes it unreadable 22:38 celeron55 i just hate it how most of the problems leading to warnings and bans really are just phpbb being crap 22:39 celeron55 ok, maybe not most, but way too many 22:39 Shara Warnings don't mean a thing if nothing is ever done when behaviour doesn't change 22:39 red-001 current state of the mt discord: https://i.imgur.com/AJkBqV0.png 22:40 paramat azekill needs a longer ban, a month minimum i think 22:41 sofar reactive, short bans are more effective 22:42 sofar you want to correct him, not life sentence him 22:42 red-001 remove his imaginery internet point/post counter then 22:42 Shara Stick a - before it 22:45 celeron55 red-001: lol 22:46 paramat he's had a short ban before 22:47 Shara One off ban isn't always effective. 22:47 Shara Give someone a few days each time and they start to learn... assuming they like to post. 23:01 paramat ok but please make it at least a week