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00:02 tumeninodes omg can't handle the stream lag. I'll just wait n watch laters
00:04 Fixer MY CORE IS YOUR CORE MY CORE IS MIIIIIIINE
00:04 Fixer damn that chat is cancerous
00:04 Fixer finally he speaks
00:05 red-001 !title
00:05 MinetestBot red-001: LIVE: Space X News Conference after SUCCESSFUL Falcon Heavy Launch, Most Powerful Rocket - YouTube
00:15 * sofar throws some oil on the minecore fire
00:15 tumeninodes uh oh
00:16 sofar I don't like this tip-toeing the line, really
00:17 tumeninodes understandable
00:20 Fixer everyone spams core in chat
00:20 tumeninodes in other news, I am starting the first church of Elon... care to join?
00:21 tumeninodes they will probably garner more attention being viewed as underdogs
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00:26 red-001 I think a church of Elon would be pretty popular
00:26 red-001 isn't there one somewhere already?
00:27 tumeninodes do not... poop on my parade
00:27 * tumeninodes searches church of Elon
00:27 red-001 http://muskanism.com/elon.html
00:27 tumeninodes you beat me to it...
00:28 tumeninodes I am less than happy right now
00:30 tumeninodes red-001 has crushed my dreamz... thanks red
00:30 red-001 covenant of starman?
00:30 tumeninodes :.
00:37 tumeninodes Rocketman... oh wait... that's already taken
00:38 tumeninodes boy sofar, you sure do rub the oil in deep :P
00:46 sofar I'm just observing everything that has the essence of a hostile fork
00:47 Fixer we are observing your fork
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00:48 tumeninodes the oddest/somewhat suspicious aspect for me is a new member of two mos..., starting a fork but, maybe thats just me
00:50 sofar step 1: say "we're not a fork"
00:50 sofar step 2: fork minetest
00:50 sofar step 3: ???
00:50 sofar I'm just waiting for underpants gnomes
00:50 tumeninodes wth is wrong with underpants gnomes? you got a problem dude? :D
00:52 Fixer sofar: forks are fine, there will be always not satisfied people, and if they succeed, some stuff can be merged back
01:01 rubenwardy oh cool, a private space race
01:01 rubenwardy SpaceX vs Boeing
01:01 tumeninodes Boeing is dead, they just don;t know it
01:03 Fixer so good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBr2kKAHN6M
01:04 Fixer it is a new meme, 100%
01:07 tumeninodes that meme could sure feed and house a lot of homeless and hungry children...
01:07 tumeninodes just sayin
01:08 Fixer I even made some screenshots
01:31 Fixer eh, more epic screenshot
01:31 Fixer s
01:34 Fixer epic
01:37 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/Ph6pfTL.png
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03:22 tumeninodes Fixer, https://youtu.be/rYy_XJpI6uk?t=63 this is from 1981
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03:26 tumeninodes saw that the week it came out. I was approx 12-13 yo, we snuck into (sneaked?) into the venue from another pg one :P this was considered "racy" back then
03:27 tumeninodes and with that..., gnite everybody
03:32 ircSparky is there a way to do table.clone in minetest?
03:33 ircSparky more specifically, a position
03:36 ircSparky nvm :P
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05:08 Megaf Heya, whos awake?
05:16 Megaf rubenwardy: I will do some tests with this new ARM dedi today, then I might leave kimsufi and use the ARM instead
05:16 Megaf I lowered my Linode price to 5 USD/month anyway
05:16 Megaf so then ARM dedicated + Linode will be cheaper than Kimsufi dedicated
05:17 Megaf Tho I wont have nearly as much storage as Kimsufi
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12:42 Fixer sofar: i believe nobody imported any good changes from freeminer since it was proclaimed dead
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13:07 PumpkinHead Good day all
13:08 twoelk o/
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13:12 Megaf Hi ThomasMonroe
13:13 ThomasMonroe hi Megaf
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13:23 red-001 !seen  kilbith
13:23 MinetestBot red-001: kilbith was last seen at 2017-08-13 00:09:55 UTC on #minetest-fr
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13:23 red-001 !seen #minetest-hub kilbith
13:23 MinetestBot red-001: Sorry, I haven't seen #minetest-hub around.
13:23 red-001 ~seen #minetest-hub kilbith
13:23 ShadowBot red-001: I saw kilbith in #minetest-hub 36 weeks, 2 days, 17 hours, 14 minutes, and 54 seconds ago saying "Fixer, I hope he won't live that old"
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13:49 celeron55 https://www.reddit.com/r/golang/comments/7vv9zz/p​opular_lib_gobindata_removed_from_github_or_why/
13:49 celeron55 noice
13:50 celeron55 people will never learn
13:51 Mr_Pardison https://www.reddit.com/r/Minetest/comments/58ml1q​/a_controllable_hydroelectric_plant_built_using/
13:51 Mr_Pardison !title
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13:51 MinetestBot Mr_Pardison: A controllable hydroelectric plant built using lua controllers and digiline. : Minetest
13:51 Mr_Pardison I'd like to try and make that myself.
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14:09 Calinou celeron55: no such thing as zero risk
14:09 Calinou >Yet another reason to vendor and commit your dependencies.
14:09 Calinou that would not be very practical with npm :)
14:10 Calinou people seem to have a problem with "no warranty" as of late :)
14:12 Megaf nerzhul: Hi there, you have that TCP (ish) branch URL handy?
14:12 celeron55 well, if you can't vendor and commit, you're basically locked out from other than silly hobby projects
14:12 celeron55 so good luck to npm
14:14 nerzhul Megaf what do you mean ?
14:14 Megaf Not sure
14:14 Megaf Not even sure if you are the guy
14:15 Megaf nerzhul: there was a branch implementing TCP and other protocol for Minetest
14:15 Megaf there is a PR for it too
14:15 Megaf I just can't login to Github now, so it's a little complicated finding it
14:15 nerzhul Megaf, see my ASIO pr
14:16 nerzhul celeron55 ouch, but it's logical. If somes have this problem they should clone all deps to a local repository (like a private gitlab instance) and use it
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15:28 Calinou celeron55: it looks like plenty of non-hobby projects use npm
15:28 Calinou and Cargo, Pypi, and so on
15:28 Calinou Composer too
16:03 nerzhul maven, gradle, godep
16:10 Fixer npm and js in general is cancer
16:26 Fixer http://www.amiga.org/forums/c​ustomavatars/avatar265_1.gif
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18:29 rubenwardy !seen tenplus1
18:29 MinetestBot rubenwardy: tenplus1 was last seen at 2018-02-06 21:10:00 UTC on #minetest-hub
18:33 celeron55 Calinou: yeah, and that is a problem
18:40 rubenwardy https://i.rubenwardy.com/tLcy0zMuWf.jpg
18:48 benrob0329 celeron55: why u no SSL?
18:52 Jordach rubenwardy: lmao
18:52 Jordach got to watch that live last night
18:52 Mr_Pardison Jordach: same.
18:52 Mr_Pardison was soooo awesome to see the boosters land.
18:53 Jordach Mr_Pardison: the only thing that played in my mind was the NBA games BOOMSHAKALAKA
18:53 Mr_Pardison lol
18:56 rubenwardy https://twitter.com/rubenwar​dy/status/961266726905278464
18:56 rubenwardy !title
18:56 MinetestBot rubenwardy: rubenwardy op Twitter: "Hey @MotionBristol, how about not asking customers to send their credit card and personal information over an unencrypted conn[...]
19:05 benrob0329 Eww Twitter
19:05 benrob0329 Get on Mastodon boii
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19:17 rubenwardy benrob0329, https://i.rubenwardy.com/HHIqotIZuI.png
19:17 rubenwardy also,    "our site is checked daily for additional piece of mind"
19:17 rubenwardy piece of mind
19:17 rubenwardy piece
19:17 rubenwardy PIECE
19:18 Mr_Pardison rubenwardy: the spelling police person in you comes out with that.
19:18 rubenwardy reminds me of a scam email with all the spelling mistakes
19:18 Krock probably google translator from another website
19:19 benrob0329 rubenwardy: gotta admit though, thats a sad example of modern technology
19:20 rubenwardy anyone know somewhere you can report websites like this?
19:20 rubenwardy there must be some regulatory body for that
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19:37 Mr-Pardison hello paramat
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19:42 * paramat checks for pieces of brain
19:43 Jordach ...all accounted for
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19:59 Fixer crap, why did not I bookmark that issue with typing t e x t in formspecs
20:01 Fixer found it, fix avail, ok
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20:43 celeron55 https://i.imgur.com/N9ZuM4H.png
20:43 sfan5 c55 posting memes? what is this
20:47 celeron55 from now on, this will always come into your mind when reading the minecore topic
20:47 rubenwardy :O
20:49 ThomasMonroe ??
20:49 ThomasMonroe I don't get it
20:49 celeron55 :D
20:49 rubenwardy fun fact: not possible in UK plugs
20:49 celeron55 2deep
20:50 sofar should I stop replying to that thread?
20:50 sofar [yes/no/why?]
20:51 celeron55 reply that in the thread
20:51 rubenwardy yes
20:51 celeron55 that makes you a winner
20:51 shivajiva too far apart , turn the fork around and force it in the rhs
20:52 paramat those sockets are cute
20:52 sofar rhs?
20:52 shivajiva right hand side
20:52 rubenwardy sofar: are you planning on releasing filter to the forum at some point?
20:52 sofar rubenwardy: I didn't?
20:53 sofar wut
20:53 sofar I failed to cash in on potential internet points?
20:53 rubenwardy :D
20:53 rubenwardy well, no internet points
20:53 rubenwardy there's no upvoting
20:53 rubenwardy just potential shitposters
20:54 rubenwardy I guarantee Wuzzy will comment in it at some point for his crusade against swear banning
20:54 sfan5 *reads topic*
20:54 * celeron55 needs to consider designing shitpostcoin, a new mineable currency
20:55 rubenwardy urgh
20:55 rubenwardy mining is objectively bad
20:55 ThomasMonroe lol
20:55 celeron55 but mining shitposts
20:55 celeron55 that's a whole new thing
20:55 rubenwardy well, I'm just pissed that GPUs are so expensive
20:55 sofar celeron55: it'll be the only coin designed to drive itself to zero value!
20:55 rubenwardy f*ck miners
20:55 celeron55 :D
20:56 sofar rubenwardy: ADVERTISEMENT Just use intel HD GFX ADVERTISEMENT
20:56 shivajiva we'd all be rich though, that's the point :P
20:56 shivajiva just have to know when to step off =)
20:56 benrob0329 sofar: incomplete with OGL 3.0 support :^))
20:57 rubenwardy please can everyone just be nice in the minecore topic
20:57 rubenwardy no matter how doubtful you are of its potential success XD
20:58 benrob0329 I just dont understand it
20:58 celeron55 we're just scared for them
20:58 sofar I feel my replies are reasonably "noninsulting"
20:58 ThomasMonroe good news though, they are talking about starting a new engine from scratch
20:58 ThomasMonroe so no worries about cloning Minetest :D
20:58 shivajiva 'reasonably'
20:58 benrob0329 I mean I understand it, but I dont understand why they don't understand
20:58 ThomasMonroe wdym benrob0329?
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20:59 sofar shivajiva: I'm being pretty good here, I'm really not calling names or anything
20:59 sofar "naive" is about as bad of a word as I have used
20:59 shivajiva heh I know, just teasing lol
21:00 * sofar is naive
21:00 celeron55 really i did start MT basically with their attitude
21:00 Calinou turns out it'll be an Unity game
21:00 Calinou oh wait…
21:00 celeron55 if they're good, they can reach the same
21:00 shivajiva it was 50/50 which way you'd go with that :)
21:00 sofar there are legitimate reasons to "fuck it, fork it"
21:00 sofar they're forking it for the wrong reason
21:00 Calinou benrob0329: latest Intel IGPs (Skylake and later) have OpenGL 4.6 on Windows, OpenGL 4.5 on Linux
21:01 sofar they're not even forking for any reason, even
21:01 sofar that's too many evens
21:01 celeron55 the good reason to forking is "i just want all control over this, now, and it doesn't matter if it will be better"
21:01 sfan5 sofar: new xeons have fpgas right? can't you mine on those?
21:01 Calinou https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel​_HD_and_Iris_Graphics#Capabilities
21:02 sofar sfan5: shrug, I dunno
21:02 benrob0329 > there are some functions missing that could have been added a long time ago
21:02 shivajiva gotta learn the hard way sometimes and it might produce something interesting as c55 noted
21:02 ThomasMonroe guys, i was listening to them talking last night, one of the main reasons they are making it is because players are getting tired of MC controlling MC and want a valid alternative/clone/whatever
21:02 benrob0329 Then code them
21:02 sofar I LOL'd hard when I saw the cython issue on their github, though
21:02 benrob0329 TommyTreasure: then make a game for Mt
21:02 celeron55 yeah, it's about time for cython!
21:03 sofar step 1: propose cloud castle
21:03 celeron55 why isn't everyone hyped already
21:03 sofar step 2: watch bronies swarm to you
21:03 paramat 'MC controlling MC'?
21:03 sfan5 'M$ controlling MC' probably
21:03 ThomasMonroe Microsoft controlling MineCraft
21:03 Calinou sofar: I didn't get the joke :(
21:04 shivajiva $ is controlling everyone
21:04 sfan5 here it's € rather
21:04 Calinou microdollars should be a cryptocurrency
21:04 sfan5 ;)
21:04 ThomasMonroe lol
21:04 sofar if you say "there will be unicorns", you're going to attract rainbows
21:06 ThomasMonroe and tbh Minetest doesn't even come close to what the players of MC want to see, so MineCore/orwhatevertheywillnameit is aiming at being that game that the MC players are drawn to
21:06 ThomasMonroe and thus drawing players closer to where Minetest is
21:06 sofar content... content before engine improvements
21:06 celeron55 i like the marketing towards outside of anything that MT has reached before
21:06 sofar go play "inside the box" and tell me it failed because the engine needs changes
21:06 celeron55 let's just hope it benefits us
21:07 sofar or even mcl2
21:08 Calinou I'm fairly sure the cobblestone texture displayed on the Minecore topic is edited from Minecraft
21:08 Calinou or at least, it looks very similar
21:10 sfan5 probably just from a MC texture packs, meaning it was designed to look similar
21:10 celeron55 it has some obvious problems
21:10 celeron55 like the fact that the name isn't unqiue in the slightest
21:11 ThomasMonroe sofar they are well aware of the game developmentprocess
21:11 rubenwardy toby made that
21:11 sfan5 that only makes me more worried about copyright concerns
21:11 celeron55 (probably tens of MC-related projects with that name)
21:11 sfan5 for some reason...
21:12 Fixer 9.5th Generation, kek
21:12 Megaf apt install libncursesw5-dev libbz2-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev git-core cmake build-essential, am I missing anything?sqlite, luajit and irrlicht will be built from source, json and gmp will use builtin
21:12 sfan5 are you building a client?
21:13 Megaf server
21:13 Fixer that feel when you bought intel CPU without integrated
21:13 sfan5 Megaf: you won't need libbz2-dev and you don't need to compile irrlicht (just the headers are fine)
21:13 Fixer 5 years ago, and now your card is dead, but you found older card that is still faster then integrated what you did not buy, crysis avoided
21:13 Megaf oh, cool
21:14 Megaf actually I will use built in lua this time
21:14 Megaf sfan5: preping an decited ARM server for some tests
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21:40 sofar ThomasMonroe: it seems all their criticism is focussed on mtg development, not *engine* development
21:41 sofar at least, that's the conclusion I draw up from what they "want"
21:41 benrob0329 ^^
21:43 sofar and frankly, who cares? if you're already making a "game", you're gonna want to start from scratch
21:43 sofar e.g. mcl2, itb
21:50 red-001 rubenwardy, they seem to have an expired cert and I guess they "fixed" that by disabling redirecting http to https
21:52 benrob0329 Thats...thats discussing
21:52 benrob0329 *disgusting
21:55 rubenwardy need to make my tweet go viral and shame them into fixing it
21:55 sofar enough reason to close shop
21:55 sofar lol
21:56 rubenwardy also, any one I can report this to? Would be crazy if there's no body for online security
21:57 sofar 4chan
21:58 rubenwardy ha
21:58 rubenwardy that would work, but I'd probably get doxed in the process
21:59 Fixer looool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aVjXGmmHdk
21:59 Fixer sofar: yeah, mtg
22:01 red-001 rubenwardy, how else would 4chan send you the prize money for reporting it?
22:06 Fixer sofar: ####### is speading up though
22:10 Fixer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWMPe3wF9jQ
22:17 Fixer speeding*
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22:23 paramat good grief Linuxdirk ...
22:24 red-001 what did my favourite user do this time?
22:24 paramat just the usual :] just realised they are 4w, makes sense
22:25 red-001 paramat, oh that newest issue?
22:25 red-001 the start up ascii stuff one?
22:25 red-001 I have a script that filters that
22:25 paramat no i was reading the minecore thread
22:26 red-001 I literaly don't see whatever they say unless someone qoutes them
22:27 sofar can you ignore people on the forum?
22:27 sofar I'd like to ignore everyone
22:27 paramat you can, set a 'foe'
22:27 Shara sofar, that's what bans are for if you can't stay away :D
22:27 red-001 you can put them on the foes list but I just made a script that uses the magic of jquery select and .hide
22:28 sofar I need that
22:28 Shara But being more serious, there are a lot of very ignore-worthy people posting there.
22:28 red-001 https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26538078/
22:29 * sofar throws azekill on the foe list
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22:31 paramat rubenwardy perhaps you could give azekill a warning?
22:31 Shara DO I dar ask what he did this time?
22:31 Shara Do I dare*
22:31 paramat i have them as foe too, worse than linuxdirk
22:31 paramat more irritating i mean
22:32 paramat just the usual
22:33 paramat seems to be the only one of the previous primary s***posters who hasn't changed their ways
22:34 * red-001 wonders will there be another big "I'm leaving minetest" thread due to toby
22:34 red-001 like that bbmine one that didn't go anywhere
22:34 paramat or rather, a warning may be useless with azekill
22:35 sofar Shara: nothing recent, just too small SNR
22:35 paramat seems azekill had a tempban before, needs a longer one
22:35 Shara My eyes just bypass his posts usually.
22:36 sofar I really like following the screenshot thread
22:37 sofar but 75% of it is dumb comments on previous screenshots, without trimming the reply
22:37 sofar which makes it unreadable
22:38 celeron55 i just hate it how most of the problems leading to warnings and bans really are just phpbb being crap
22:39 celeron55 ok, maybe not most, but way too many
22:39 Shara Warnings don't mean a thing if nothing is ever done when behaviour doesn't change
22:39 red-001 current state of the mt discord: https://i.imgur.com/AJkBqV0.png
22:40 paramat azekill needs a longer ban, a month minimum i think
22:41 sofar reactive, short bans are more effective
22:42 sofar you want to correct him, not life sentence him
22:42 red-001 remove his imaginery internet point/post counter then
22:42 Shara Stick a - before it
22:45 celeron55 red-001: lol
22:46 paramat he's had a short ban before
22:47 Shara One off ban isn't always effective.
22:47 Shara Give someone a few days each time and they start to learn... assuming they like to post.
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23:01 paramat ok but please make it at least a week
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