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01:42 twoelk maybe Luigi512 has gotten offspring https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=127828#p127828
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12:52 tenplus1 hi folks
12:56 rubenwardy hi
12:56 NathanS21 hi
12:57 tenplus1 hi ruben, hi nathan :D
12:58 Krock hi tenplus1
12:58 tenplus1 o/ krock :P
12:58 tenplus1 added 3 new settings to mob api that may prove useful
12:58 rubenwardy coursework I'm working on, water simulation running on 6 GPUs: https://i.rubenwardy.com/mbh1TMRqZu.mp4
12:58 rubenwardy err
12:58 rubenwardy *8 GPUs
12:59 tenplus1 ooh
13:00 Krock the true story behind that video: 100 individual graphs in LibreOffice calc
13:00 rubenwardy lol
13:00 tenplus1 ehehe
13:00 Krock added together with some tool to make a gif, then converted to an mp4
13:00 Krock it's devilish
13:01 rubenwardy the code dumps the state to a file every so often
13:01 tenplus1 would be nice if LO5 had an export to animgif feature
13:01 rubenwardy I then use a bash script to convert those state files to a png using GNUPlot
13:01 rubenwardy and then combine into a .mp4 with ffmpeg
13:03 Krock heh nice :) The title could however either be bold or larger. Loks like an axis
13:04 Krock or is it the name of the right scale? I don't see any description for that one
13:04 rubenwardy it's the name of the right scale
13:04 rubenwardy may be a title actually
13:04 rubenwardy yeah, it's the title in the .plt
13:06 Krock something's wrong if you have to look up the source file :P
13:06 Krock s/wrong/suboptimal/
13:06 rubenwardy well, the right key is velocity
13:06 rubenwardy I was wondering if it's the render being weird (unlikely)
13:07 rubenwardy I didn't write the .plt, just the bash script
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13:14 tenplus1 hi Jordach
13:29 Raven262 Hi ten
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13:29 tenplus1 hey raven :)
13:29 tenplus1 hi mister
13:29 Mr-Pardison morning tenplus1
13:34 tenplus1 o/
13:34 tenplus1 anyone got any sweet textures for mutton in mobs_animal ?
13:34 aerozoic hi tenplus1
13:34 tenplus1 hi aerozoic
13:35 Mr-Pardison what kind of mutton?
13:35 tenplus1 and rabbit meat / fur
13:35 tenplus1 was thinking of adding raw mutton, cooked mutton, raw rabbit, cooked rabbit, rabbit pelt
13:36 aerozoic That just triggered a thought, have you ever considered adding game animals like deer and elk?
13:37 tenplus1 kpgmobs has deer/elk
13:37 Mr-Pardison if we had those, I'd like to have a rifle to hunt them with.
13:37 aerozoic oh it's already done? XD
13:37 tenplus1 kpg did many of the animals :) we just never included them all
13:38 tenplus1 at present all animals drop the standard mobs:meat_raw, so would be nice to have specific meats now that cooking mods and more food mods area appearing
13:39 aerozoic Variety is always better :)
13:39 tenplus1 also grizzly's bbq mod is pretty good :) so would help with compativility
13:40 aerozoic Unless ur an indecisive person XD
13:41 tenplus1 will cehck deviantart for free textures
13:45 Mr-Pardison afk for a bit
13:45 tenplus1 lol
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13:52 tenplus1 hit homas
13:52 tenplus1 *hi thomas
13:53 Mr-Pardison ten forgets his t's :P
13:53 tenplus1 :P
13:53 rubenwardy please don't hit people thnks
13:53 rubenwardy *thxs
13:53 ThomasMonroe hiya enplus1
13:53 tenplus1 :P
13:53 ThomasMonroe :P
13:54 tenplus1 Q. is freehand drawing a texture based on an already existing texture cheating ? copyright ?
13:54 rubenwardy yeah
13:55 tenplus1 damn
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13:55 tenplus1 hi robbie
13:55 RobbieF hi tenplus1!
13:55 RobbieF how are you?
13:55 rubenwardy it's a grey area
13:55 rubenwardy IANAL
13:55 tenplus1 ok ta, attempting to draw textures
13:56 RobbieF I just walked in on this conversation, but am I to understand Apple is making sex toys now?
13:56 aerozoic hey tenplus1, i'm curious why the HUD feature of protectors is set for 5 second updates?
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13:56 tenplus1 I drew a nice raw rabbit that is only similar to orig, but dunno
13:56 tenplus1 hi CWz
13:56 tenplus1 RobbieF: wut ?????
13:56 rubenwardy RobbieF, I Am Not A Lawyer   :P
13:56 RobbieF I dunno, but rubenwardy mentioned something about iAnal
13:56 rubenwardy also, it would be iAnal
13:56 rubenwardy lol snap
13:57 RobbieF Yeah, you were yelling it
13:57 tenplus1 aerozoic: so it doesnt cause any lag and still updates at a reasonable rate :)
13:57 tenplus1 lololol
13:57 Mr-Pardison I'm just going to be keeping overwatch on some other channels now.....
13:57 RobbieF Ahh, I get it now. But FYI, from here forward you will be typing it iAnal.  :D
13:58 CWz Hello
13:58 RobbieF hey CWz
14:02 aerozoic tenplus1, sorry if i'm bothering you, i not a coder so i'm gonna ask noob questions... I just don't understand the lag issue. I do know that areas mod updates it's HUD feature instantly, seemingly without lag.
14:03 ThomasMonroe heya RobbieF
14:03 aerozoic Idk if protector mod and areas mod uses the same method for updating the HUD.
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14:04 tenplus1 hi evergreen
14:04 ThomasMonroe hiya EvergreenTree
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14:05 tenplus1 it's ok aerozoic, basically if too many get_node's happen per player is can lag a server filled with players, so I gave it a 5 second delay so it wouldnt do that
14:05 tenplus1 hi sniper
14:06 tenplus1 areas mod doesnt need get_node cause it's all stored in a file and tables... it does it a different way, but if file/table is corrupt you lose ALL protection
14:06 aerozoic oh, that makes sense, thanks!
14:06 ThomasMonroe I updated the screenshot for #6965
14:06 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6965 -- [WIP] Basic pause menu settings by ThomasMonroe314
14:09 RobbieF Hi ThomasMonroe
14:10 ThomasMonroe how goes the development?
14:12 tenplus1 shoudl I add a recipe to convert rabbit hides into leather for crafting (2x2 rabbit = 1x leather) ??
14:13 aerozoic tenplus1, that sounds good to me.
14:13 tenplus1 :P
14:14 ThomasMonroe aerozoic, how'd you like the screenshot?
14:14 aerozoic Wow, that looks great!
14:15 aerozoic That gives me an idea
14:15 ThomasMonroe now onto adding the Gamma/Brightness
14:15 aerozoic I've had to explain fast/fly/noclip to so many people on touch screens and they can never find it.
14:16 ThomasMonroe idk if the pause menu is the same on there, but I could add those
14:16 aerozoic idk if that's within the scope of your pause menu idea
14:16 Mr-Pardison perfect as I have had to do the same thing.
14:17 ThomasMonroe but idk if those are actual settings that I can adjust
14:17 aerozoic i sometimes think those other non-MT clients don't even have the buttons for it XD
14:17 ThomasMonroe I actually learned that pressing the F3 key doesn't actually turn off the fog
14:18 ThomasMonroe aerozoic, I wouldn't be surprised XD
14:18 jas_ yeah you can just leave anticheat on and deal with the issues, or turn it off and play, because anticheat is indeed strict.  my case was modifying gravity/speed/jump combinations and triggering it that way.
14:18 ThomasMonroe ???
14:18 jas_ enchanted chicken feather.
14:18 jas_ re: physics_override triggering anticheat.
14:19 jas_ (1500-1700 i believe)
14:19 ThomasMonroe what are you talking about jas_?
14:19 jas_ what are you talking about, ThomasMonroe?
14:20 jas_ i'm talking about physics override triggering anticheat, like i said, referring to timestamp 1500 to 1700 or so, from yesterday? scroll up a bit, man
14:20 jas_ i can link u a log line if it's that important
14:23 ThomasMonroe oh, sorry np
14:23 ThomasMonroe I was just wondering how that fit with what the current convo was XD
14:26 Wayward_One hi all :)
14:26 tenplus1 hi wayward
14:27 ThomasMonroe hi Wayward_One
14:29 tenplus1 Mobs_Animal updated - added raw/cooked mutton and rabbit, also rabbit hide, changed certain jump heights
14:31 tenplus1 excuse the crappy textures
14:34 CWz Wayward_One, have you played animel crossing. if so what is it about; is it about helping animels cross the street, a game like frogger, a game like pokemon snap, or game where you piss off animels which makes them crossed with you?
14:35 jas_ sorry.  i should have been more clear, and nicer!  http://irc.minetest.net/minet​est-hub/2018-01-25#i_5210699
14:35 Wayward_One lol, i haven't, so idk xD
14:36 CWz wouldn't be suprised if it the first
14:37 CWz i mean the normals seemed to have enjoyed farmvil, and fappybird
14:37 CWz *flappy
14:37 aerozoic maybe it's like simcity but with animals, so.... simfarm?
14:37 tenplus1 lol fappy
14:38 CWz Tottaly wouldn't have guessed that
14:38 CWz hmm. *lightbulb moment*
14:44 CWz i checked it out
14:44 CWz i am double suprised
14:46 CWz I thought it would be game where you cross animals and create freaks
14:46 CWz eh missed opportunity on nintendos part
14:47 Wayward_One lol xD
14:49 CWz just stick to your fat plumber games, nintendo.
14:50 CWz at least that game has important life lessons
14:50 ThomasMonroe enable_3d_clouds has been added
14:50 ThomasMonroe YAY!
14:50 CWz wasn't that always in minetest
14:51 ThomasMonroe no to my WIP PR #6965
14:51 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6965 -- [WIP] Basic pause menu settings by ThomasMonroe314
15:05 rubenwardy <@rubenwardy> !cmd tempban Lajoie22 5D don't grief or trap players!
15:05 rubenwardy <CTF_Bot> Failed to ban Lajoie22
15:05 rubenwardy <CTF_Bot> *** Lajoie22 left the game
15:05 rubenwardy huh
15:06 rubenwardy lol shivajiva
15:06 Mr-Pardison hate those kind of players.
15:08 shivajiva rubenwardy: if you check the ban record did it ban or not?
15:08 rubenwardy they then rejoined
15:08 shivajiva so not
15:09 red-001 huh failed to ban
15:10 rubenwardy just grepping for log
15:11 rubenwardy also, up to date
15:22 IhrFussel sallee seems to have increased my map size as well now...by far less than Shara's but 20-30 MB in a day
15:23 IhrFussel I recommend all server owners to grep thei debug.txt for "sallee" and watch that account if it exists
15:23 IhrFussel their*
15:23 tenplus1 hi and thx fussel
15:23 Jordach >is running 0.5-dev on a hidden server
15:23 tenplus1 hi red
15:23 tenplus1 hi shiva :P
15:24 Jordach they can try
15:24 shivajiva Hiya tenplus
15:24 Jordach and as usual, solar plains is already ready
15:24 ThomasMonroe hey shiva
15:24 tenplus1 lol jordach
15:25 IhrFussel And hello^^ sallee is either a bot or some script kiddie that just wants to annoy server owners...on servers with anticheat disabled (for valid reasons) this can be critical
15:25 rubenwardy l33t haxor
15:26 IhrFussel Since they typed their password wrong once I lean more towards someone who starts a certain script after joining
15:27 red-001 Jordach, remember someone running a minetest server on a darknet before, just to prove they could
15:27 Jordach ^
15:27 red-001 so you are not the first
15:28 red-001 I think it was more of a research sort of network then an anonymising one
15:29 IhrFussel I also find it weird that the player always stays at the exact same height and never goes up/down ... it's 24.5
15:30 Mr-Pardison very weird.
15:30 Mr-Pardison are they AFK?
15:31 IhrFussel My server kicks inactive players idling for 2+ hours and yes the player moved without pressing any keys it seems cause he got auto kicked
15:31 Mr-Pardison huh.
15:32 rubenwardy 2 hours is a long time
15:32 ThomasMonroe ^
15:32 rubenwardy even for a building server
15:32 rubenwardy CTF is 1 minute, due to the limited slots
15:34 red-001 maybe it's a similar bot for saving server maps
15:36 IhrFussel I just checked...24.5 is the height of the spawn so the player just moves in some direction ignoring any kind of obstacles
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15:36 red-001 IhrFussel, how was the player moving, if they were trying to scrap the map I would expect them to move in a spiral or something of that sort
15:36 tenplus1 hi benrob
15:36 rubenwardy omg
15:36 rubenwardy is map limit in map_meta?
15:36 red-001 decent chance
15:36 benrob0329 I'm gonna record todaaaaay! \o/
15:36 rubenwardy ffs
15:36 rubenwardy red-001, found the issue
15:37 red-001 seems that want file something is in is mostly decided by rolling a dice
15:37 red-001 what*
15:37 benrob0329 Hi tenplus1
15:37 tenplus1 Mobs Redo updated to 1.41:  runaway_from setting added to mob registry :)
15:37 rubenwardy I reused the old map meta which had the map limit in the world meta
15:37 rubenwardy which overrode the settings
15:37 * benrob0329 is going to do a cinematic of illuna today
15:38 rubenwardy fml
15:38 red-001 is there even any use for that file for a server without a presistent map?
15:38 rubenwardy not really, as the mapgen for old ctf was in settings anyway
15:38 tenplus1 nice one ben, look forward to seeing it
15:39 benrob0329 Can we move mapgen setting to world creation, rather than minetest.conf?
15:40 red-001 not like forward,backward?
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15:41 Megaf_ HexChat for the win!
15:41 rubenwardy red-001, fixed aha
15:41 tenplus1 hi Megaf
15:41 Mr-Pardison Megaf_: totally.
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15:41 Megaf_ I must be the most random person ever
15:41 tenplus1 o/ paramat
15:41 Mr-Pardison greetings, fellow hoomans.
15:41 Megaf_ tenplus1, ambiance mod is crashy
15:41 Megaf_ fix it
15:41 tenplus1 crashy ??? show me error plz
15:42 Megaf_ yep
15:42 IhrFussel Nope, just forward AFAIK ... I didn't watch them all the time though ... but that type of movement is very weird PLUS not triggering the "hey im active" function in globalstep() while moving is impossible unless keys are unused
15:42 Megaf_ tenplus1, man, it somewhere in the backlog
15:42 tenplus1 lol
15:42 Megaf_ lemme see if I can find it
15:43 ThomasMonroe Megaf_ I added enable_3d_clouds to the PR
15:43 Megaf_ interesting
15:43 Mr-Pardison IhrFussel: seems like a bot like thing if they are active but not triggering the active function in globalstep()
15:44 Megaf_ tenplus1, http://irc.minetest.net/minet​est-hub/2018-01-24#i_5209958
15:45 Megaf_ tenplus1, I'm not mad at you, I'm mad at Minetest, as usual
15:45 benrob0329 Lol, Fireflies
15:45 benrob0329 Megaf_: its like most Linux distros
15:45 tenplus1 :P checking
15:45 IhrFussel Mr-Pardison, Everything about the player screams "bot" or "some script" at me... he plays on my server since Jan 21 and the only message he sent was /spawn a few times
15:45 Krock benrob0329, it's simple. Arch users <---> non-Arch users :P
15:46 ThomasMonroe Megaf_, I literally just added fast YAY!
15:46 Megaf_ hah
15:46 Megaf_ benrob0329, eh, what do you mean?
15:46 ThomasMonroe I gtg for now cyall laters
15:46 Megaf_ Debian works
15:46 Megaf_ cya ThomasMonroe
15:46 * Megaf_ has several years of Arch Linux
15:46 benrob0329 When you haphazardly gather a bunch of components and glue them together and then we're all supprised when something breaks
15:46 Megaf_ it's the third distro I most used
15:47 Megaf_ and no matter how good you think your mod or piece of software is, I will find a bug and break it
15:47 benrob0329 Arch is nice, gonna install it on my laptop eventually
15:48 benrob0329 I could do it in an hour most likely, its not hard
15:48 Megaf_ Don't bother
15:48 Megaf_ Arch had a meaning back in the 686 era
15:48 tenplus1 Megaf: it's fixed, git updated
15:48 benrob0329 Encryption is going to be interesting
15:48 Megaf_ now ClearLinux took it's place and the distro optmized for modern CPUs
15:48 Megaf_ sofar, ^
15:48 Megaf_ They dropped support even fore Core2Duos
15:49 red-001 Krock, feels fear when running sudo pacman -Syu <---> feels fear when running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
15:49 tenplus1 if clearlinux shares their optimizations am sure many other distros can follow suit
15:49 benrob0329 Hahaha, a distro only for intel
15:50 benrob0329 Thats some good memes as of late
15:50 rubenwardy well, that's slightly odd: https://i.rubenwardy.com/MS6oIMWdGf.png
15:50 Megaf_ tenplus1, I didnt see much optimization, it's more about dropping legacy stuff and improving the little things it has
15:50 Megaf_ they do the very opposite of Minetest
15:50 rubenwardy attached entities ending up at 0,0,0
15:50 tenplus1 well, 64-bit is the new standard now, I wonder how many ppl are still using 32-bit setups
15:50 Megaf_ Minetest bloats and bloats and bloats, and little to no time is put into fixing existing stuff and cleaning up
15:50 Krock rubenwardy, old news
15:50 Megaf_ ClearLinux gets slimmer and slimmer
15:51 Megaf_ and they optimize what they have the best they can
15:51 rubenwardy is there a work around for this?
15:51 rubenwardy other than making 0,0,0 not visible XD
15:51 * red-001 waits for people to complain about dropping support for their old clients
15:51 benrob0329 My setup gets slimmer and slimmer
15:51 rubenwardy lol
15:51 Megaf_ HexChat: 2.10.1 ** OS: Linux 4.9.0-0.bpo.5-rt-amd64 x86_64 ** Distro: Debian 8.10 ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T5450  @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1000MHz ** RAM: Physical: 2.9GiB, 78.4% free ** Disk: Total: 231.2GiB, 97.3% free ** VGA: 8086:2a02 ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel ** Ethernet: 11ab:4353 ** Uptime: 17m 33s **
15:51 Krock rubenwardy, detach & attach whenever someone joins
15:51 Krock attachment handling is a mess
15:51 benrob0329 I install fewer things every time I setup a desktop
15:52 Megaf_ 600 MB used here. With two Chromium opened
15:52 benrob0329 Not even a file manager anymore
15:52 Megaf_ yet, if I open Minetest and login to my server my laptop WILL CRASH
15:52 tenplus1 eek! that aint good
15:53 Megaf_ partly because a Minetest client needs at least 3 GB of RAM to log in to my server and partialy because there's a bug on Linux causing IO trashing, even before touching swap
15:53 Megaf_ !server Megaf
15:53 MinetestBot Megaf_: Megaf Server V4.17 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 1/10, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.17-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 10ms
15:53 tenplus1 763mb here with lubuntu(lxde), chromium playing youtube, pidgin and surfing toons :D
15:53 Megaf_ log in at your own risk
15:54 Megaf_ tenplus1, I'm using Mate :)
15:54 benrob0329 I'll have to go look once I boot my desktop
15:54 Megaf_ oh, and my tmp and .cache folders are ram disks
15:54 benrob0329 i3 and Pale Moon
15:54 tenplus1 mate is good but tends to slow games down
15:55 rubenwardy Krock, on_leavplayer removes the entity
15:55 rubenwardy is that not enough?
15:55 rubenwardy hmmm, maybe there's duplicates
15:57 Krock rubenwardy, oh, I thought that were red-001's entities.. but he left before taking the screenie
15:58 Krock perhaps these are yours. try changing the wielded item :3
15:58 Krock ...or hurt yourself
15:58 rubenwardy it definitely says red-001
15:58 rubenwardy for the player tag
15:59 rubenwardy yet the player tag should be removed when leaveplayer
15:59 rubenwardy so just added some code to delete if duplicates, and log an error
16:00 red-001 Fuchs, huh what does the new cloak mean?
16:00 Megaf_ Oh boi, dat A-10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZvkhtfnAxs
16:00 Megaf_ !title
16:00 MinetestBot Megaf_: TOP 8 RC JETS LOWPASS AND FAST OVERFLIGHTS RECORD BY RCHELIJET - YouTube
16:00 Fuchs red-001: ex-staff, it means I resigned
16:00 red-001 ah
16:00 rubenwardy oh wow
16:00 rubenwardy does that mean you won't be at #live this year? :'(
16:01 Fuchs rubenwardy: I'm rather positive I will be
16:01 red-001 just not as staff?
16:01 Fuchs at least I already marked it as holidays (+1 week, to go to wales or Scotland or whatever) at work
16:01 Fuchs red-001: I might still help out, I might even be staff again by then, who knows.
16:02 rubenwardy ah that's good to hear
16:02 red-001 ^
16:03 Megaf_ Fuchs, I know you from somewhere, no idea where tho
16:03 Fuchs Megaf_: in here would be my best guess, or we were in contact for something related freenode
16:03 rubenwardy ah, now that's interesting
16:04 red-001 Megaf_, this channel?
16:04 Fuchs I could grep logs, but I'm about to head for a shower and do laundry
16:04 rubenwardy two players, rubenwardy and bob
16:04 rubenwardy rubenwardy can't see anything at 0,0,0, and can see bob's guage and tag
16:04 Megaf_ I have no idea, I think I saw him several years ago
16:04 rubenwardy bob can see rubenwardy's entities at 0,0,0 but can't see any on rubenwardy
16:04 Megaf_ must be freenode related
16:04 Krock this means bob joined after rubenwardy
16:04 red-001 poor bob, only thing left of him is this tag
16:04 rubenwardy actually, the exception is playertags are in the right place
16:05 rubenwardy yeah, bob joined after
16:05 rubenwardy might just make it so 0,0,0 is never seen
16:05 rubenwardy ie: in ignore
16:05 Megaf_ I hate when I run commands in my dedicated when I meant to run them on my laptop
16:05 rubenwardy doesn't fix disappearing guages though
16:06 rubenwardy ah!
16:06 rubenwardy player tag must work because it reattaches the tag every 10 seconds
16:06 rubenwardy are attachments sent when players join the world?
16:07 rubenwardy side note, is attached player damaging been merged yet
16:07 * rubenwardy looks
16:09 tenplus1 that's an important one
16:10 rubenwardy also adds callbacks
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16:10 tenplus1 hi cx384
16:10 cx384 hello tenplus1
16:13 rubenwardy ha
16:16 Krock rubenwardy, yes they're sent but somehow broken
16:16 shivajiva Hey Thomas
16:16 Krock perhaps handled too early? no idea
16:16 paramat Megaf actually you should be mad at tenplus not MT because your crash is a mod error =)
16:16 paramat and lots of effort is put into bugfixes and cleaning up, we're drowning under refactor PRs
16:18 rubenwardy in terms of maintenance, there's bug fixes and refactors
16:18 cx384 Does anyone know when minetest 0.5 will be released?
16:18 rubenwardy bug fixes fix bugs
16:18 rubenwardy XD
16:19 rubenwardy refactors make the code simpler and easier to maintain, but introduce bugs
16:19 rubenwardy cx384, may/june
16:19 IhrFussel "head-admin", "half-moderator", "supporter", "vip" ... who needs all these ranks?
16:19 rubenwardy lol
16:20 IhrFussel That's in addition to admins, moderators and helpers
16:20 Krock IhrFussel, you forgot "supporting moderator" and "co-admin" and "vice supporter"
16:20 * tenplus1 is confuzzled
16:21 IhrFussel Where is the CEO, COO etc?
16:21 Krock tenplus1, here a non-relevant smoking ticket for the airplane: https://i.imgur.com/lz3P8qv.mp4
16:21 rubenwardy Krock: https://github.com/rubenwardy/capt​uretheflag/pull/83/commits/82330ba​0e994e8d0fcc69bcbc93f2b439388a929
16:21 rubenwardy !title
16:21 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Add multimap support by rubenwardy · Pull Request #83 · rubenwardy/capturetheflag · GitHub
16:21 cx384 hm ok it takes a really long time
16:21 rubenwardy ew
16:21 Mr-Pardison rubenwardy: I havethat movie on DVD at home.
16:21 Mr-Pardison *have that
16:21 rubenwardy what?
16:22 Krock rubenwardy, forgot to add a file? that doesn't look like an entity fix
16:22 rubenwardy XD
16:22 rubenwardy it makes it so 0,0,0 is never seen
16:22 rubenwardy it's not actually a fix aha
16:23 Mr-Pardison lol wrong person
16:23 rubenwardy brb, renaming commit to "Hide entity issue
16:23 Mr-Pardison Krock: I have that movie on DVD at home.
16:23 IhrFussel You just know that server x is run by a kid when the rules state "no stealing server"
16:24 Mr-Pardison that's sad.
16:24 Krock Mr-Pardison, found on imgur while browsing. no idea what movie it is actually
16:24 rubenwardy yup
16:24 Krock rubenwardy, eww. little dirty workarounds
16:24 Mr-Pardison the movie is called Airplane!
16:24 Krock ok
16:25 rubenwardy XD
16:25 rubenwardy it's fiiinnnnneee
16:25 rubenwardy this has been a bug ever since I added guages and 3d wield items
16:26 tenplus1 lol Krock
16:27 rubenwardy I'll fix it later
16:32 paramat Megaf the memory use due to joining your server is probably from mods, you do have hundreds and lots of intensive and unoptimised ones: mesecons, darkage, homedecor, plantlife, moretrees etc. so it's your fault =)
16:36 benrob0329 paramat: I dont think he said it wasn't, its pretty obvious that a lot of mods == a lot of ram
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16:37 tenplus1 wb Dargod
16:39 paramat it's implied from context and Megaf has blamed MT for that before
16:39 paramat looking at the list of mods i'm suprised the server works at all, even moretrees alone is enough to ruin a server
16:40 Megaf_ <paramat> looking at the list of mods i'm suprised the server works at all
16:40 Megaf_ lol
16:40 Megaf_ And I added lots of mobs too
16:40 Megaf_ still working very well
16:41 Megaf_ paramat, I think one of the things that causes big RAM usage are actually the textures
16:41 paramat it's the usual problem: a server owner adds 200 mods, many excessively intensive on their own, then wonders why they have problems, then blames MT and the devs
16:42 benrob0329 I try to keep my server as minimal as possible while still having what we (my friends and i) need to build
16:42 Megaf_ paramat, I don't blame for that, I don't like the word blame. I'm not saying I don't understand the dev side. I'm saying, my point is. MT still getting more features, not saying this is bad, yet, little time is going on removing legacy and old stuff. It's just an observation.
16:43 benrob0329 Oh and also turtles, because why not
16:43 paramat yes textures
16:43 Megaf_ benrob0329, I used to try to keep it as minimal as possible. Then I noticed it changes almost nothing. It more of a matter of configuration and compilation optimzations
16:43 Megaf_ I think now my server is running in one of the weakest hardwares it has ever ran
16:44 Megaf_ still working fine, apart from reading the world and mapgen, problem I always had...
16:44 benrob0329 Flying carts :^)
16:45 paramat Megaf you have blamed MT for everything, it's a habit you have =)
16:46 Megaf_ I can't deny
16:46 Megaf_ paramat, oh, by the way, hold on. I need help with an actual bug
16:46 paramat any server with moretrees i don't consider to be 'working very well', unfortunately almost everyone adds it :}
16:48 paramat anyway. ok we can help
16:48 Megaf_ I modified moretrees a bit so it runs better
16:49 Megaf_ paramat, #2408
16:49 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2408 -- Server's clock seems to change acording to dedicated_server_step
16:50 Megaf_ my server time speed is set to 1, that should be 24 hours
16:50 Megaf_ but the in game clock never matches the real world clock
16:50 Megaf_ I have no idea why or how the time is kept/counted
16:51 paramat no idea
16:52 Megaf_ and is #4564 ever going to be looked at:
16:52 Megaf_ ?
16:52 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4564 -- [Request] Make client timeout if RTT < 0.
16:52 Megaf_ This is a simple fix for every day issues...
16:52 tenplus1 +1
16:54 Megaf_ rubenwardy, made a good suggestion there that is valid too. To just inform the client server haven't replied in x seconds.
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16:55 tenplus1 wb evergreen
16:56 Megaf_ red-001, you mem use will grow much more as you explore the map... 1.3 GB is just after hte login
16:58 Mr-Pardison just a thing that I wanted to put out there: what do y'all think of making hydras tamable animals?
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17:04 tenplus1 ooh, then someone can pick them up and drop inside another players house... eek
17:12 paramat Megaf_ the funny thing is, i make a big effort to resist unnecessary fancy features and code bloat, but this actually makes me unpopular because i have to say no so much =)
17:13 Mr-Pardison fight the machine! join the resistance!
17:16 paramat dev fact of life: the more active you are the more unpopular you become
17:16 tenplus1 o.O
17:17 sofar you're not poettering just yet paramat :P
17:17 tenplus1 o/ so
17:17 tenplus1 *sofar :P
17:19 rubenwardy right, bugs fixed (?)
17:19 rubenwardy come to ctf.rubenwardy.com:30001 for some fun new CTF gameplay
17:20 Sokomine paramat: i'm glad for all the work the devs do. so thank you for all you did and will do in the future
17:20 rubenwardy xerox123 ^
17:21 Sokomine paramat: mtg also became a very nice game. when i flew above generated landscape recently i enjoyed what became of it. other dirt below jungletrees, fallen tree logs, decorative mushrooms, very nice bushes, very nice new biomes (that one with the acacia trees, snow biomes, ...)
17:22 tenplus1 if random tree schems for each type get included that'll be awesome too sokomine :P
17:23 Sokomine the trouble with creating something is that there's always so much more that can be done and that comes to mind and so little time to do it all
17:24 rubenwardy sfan5, code 410
17:24 rubenwardy guess I need whitelisting?
17:25 Sokomine Mr-Pardison: [off] cobble *can* be acceptable for paths. one of the very few uses of it. even gravel may look good there
17:25 sofar rubenwardy: probably, 2 hosts on the same IP
17:25 tenplus1 cobble/stone/stonebrick can make good buildings if done right
17:26 Mr-Pardison Sokomine: this was not a build. it was s simple pathway the intruded upon the airspace around the town on DL.
17:27 Sokomine tenplus1: make leather available through killing hostile mobs. not friendly rabbits who have done nothing apart from sitting around
17:28 tenplus1 lol, 4x rabbit pelts = 1x leather: P
17:29 paramat sweet
17:29 Mr-Pardison pointless unless you breed them and let them propagate enough for you to gather enough.
17:29 Mr-Pardison given the number required for just 1 leather.
17:30 tenplus1 wild rabbits will run away from player now (also hogs)
17:30 Mr-Pardison then I'll just have to chase after them.
17:30 paramat back later
17:33 Sokomine benrob0329: if you do visit illuna - feel free to visit my hotel and mini-settlement as well :-) even if it's not really finished
17:33 tenplus1 IhrFussel: what was the nick to look out for on server btw ???
17:35 IhrFussel sallee
17:35 IhrFussel Not sure if there are more of those but that's the only one I caught doing that
17:36 tenplus1 *phew* not on Xanadu thankfully
17:36 rubenwardy sofar, yeah
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17:36 tenplus1 wb Darcidride
17:38 Megaf_ ok, changed settings in my server, minetest client seems stable at 1.2 GB of RAM used
17:39 Megaf_ been mining for a while
17:39 tenplus1 hi sfan
17:39 sfan5 hello
17:39 Megaf_ and server using around 400 MB of RAM
17:42 Sokomine paramat: oh :-( moretrees are fine :-) i love those tree giants. sadly, they're expensive when generating and when looking at, so there can't be too many of those big trees around. still...a moretrees tree here and there is very nice :-)
17:45 Sokomine tenplus1: cobble very very rarely will make up a good house. the texture is not so nice. stone and in particular stonebrick are diffrent. my first house on redcrabs server was a stonebrick house
17:46 tenplus1 my first house was dirt :) I built into a hillside... was cute
17:47 Mr-Pardison tenplus1: wise move. build in and you had access to resources literally right outside your house.
17:47 Sokomine building a good house with dirt is even more tricky. i saw one successful application and used it for a gingerbread house once. but in general dirt is not...suitable. not all textures look good for houses
17:48 tenplus1 yup, and some junglegrass hid the entrance so no-one would spot me :D
17:48 tenplus1 loved my wee dirt house
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17:48 Sokomine those are not homes but storage areas you're talking about. yes, dig a hole in a hill, store some chests, furnace etc. in there - landscape can remain intact and ressources gathered
17:50 red-001 Megaf_, grew to 1.4 by the time I killed the process
17:51 tenplus1 am thinking of changing chests so that once dug it drops all items inside
17:51 red-001 does anyone know if the new translation system can be used for chat and formspecs??
17:52 red-001 s/??/?
17:53 Sokomine tenplus1: hmm. that sounds rather annoying
17:54 tenplus1 would help admin when removing player chests etc
17:55 sofar just TNT them
17:55 tenplus1 lol true, although things like shops etc. I want to drop all items inside to save me removing them
17:55 IhrFussel The gray screen bug is only server-side? Or can old clients still be affected even if the server code was fixed?
17:57 sfan5 you mean the 0,0,0 bug?
17:58 tenplus1 *shudder*
17:59 IhrFussel Not sure if it's the 0,0,0 one...some player complain about sometimes being stuck in a gray screen and only rejoining fixes it
17:59 Mr-Pardison speaking of that.
17:59 Mr-Pardison am having that problem right now.
18:00 IhrFussel I didn't have that bug for many months now on PC so maybe it's about the client/app they use?
18:04 Megaf_ red-001, 1.250 GB stable here
18:04 Megaf_ my server is actually quite friendly to old computer once away from spawn
18:04 Megaf_ and once all textures are loaded
18:11 Thomas-S Is there a reason why I'm not allowed to view the forum topic of the currency mod? https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=7002
18:12 tenplus1 ? weird
18:12 cx384 if anyone is bored can he or she take a look on my new mod https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=19524 and tell me whether it is useful or what I should change.
18:13 tenplus1 nice n simple :) I ilke it
18:14 cx384 thank you <3
18:16 Sokomine tenplus1: add admin tool for that. don't want all that rubbish lying around when removing chests
18:17 tenplus1 I do use admin stick for that
18:20 IhrFussel "when do i get the grant priv" uhh....not even my moderators have that priv lol
18:22 aerozoic I don't give privs priv because there's no way to manage privs. I'm surprised there isn't a privs management mod out there.
18:22 tenplus1 lol, only shinji and I hold that priv on xanadu, gotta be thankful for what ya have
18:28 Megaf_ was this fixed already or this bug still there?
18:28 Megaf_ !title http://paste.debian.net/plain/1007375
18:28 MinetestBot No title found.
18:29 Megaf_ 2018-01-26 18:27:06: ERROR[Main]: ServerError: AsyncErr: ServerThread::run Lua: Runtime error from mod 'moretrees' in callback node_on_timer(): ...erver/BinMegafServer/bin/../m​ods/moretrees/date_palm.lua:235: find_nodes_in_area(): area volume exceeds allowed value of 551368
18:29 tenplus1 damn, that's a LOT of nodes
18:38 Sokomine moretrees and other plants are very demanding regarding their environment. a lot of the time it takes in mapgen is spent searching for the right conditions (light, water sources, ...)
18:40 tenplus1 yeah, it's quite a heavy albeit beautiful mod
18:42 Megaf_ Time to make some coffee
18:43 tenplus1 we could see what moretrees does that is so intensive and break it down to see if it is possible to have a new feature that would handle it better
18:43 _Megaf problem is just the date palm
18:44 tenplus1 do they really have to grow ? have the sapling grow a tree with dates and chop it down, re-grow for more dates...
18:45 tenplus1 personally I'd remove that feature
18:45 _Megaf date palms keep getting larger
18:45 _Megaf so every step of the grow includes calculations I think
18:45 Sokomine tenplus1: i've taken a look at the spawning some time ago. there really are so many conditions regarding when to place which plant that i wasn't able to find anything more efficient. vanessae has spread the spawning functions over several steps so that mapgen reacts faster now
18:45 tenplus1 yeah globalstep really helps it a lot
18:46 Sokomine oh? do they really grow now? intresting. never observed that. i thought growing trees was a diffrent mod (by sapier?). those special growing trees kept chaning all the time
18:49 Shara Hi all
18:49 _Megaf Hi Shara
18:49 tenplus1 hey Shara
18:50 Raven262 Hi Shara
18:50 Mr-Pardison hi
18:50 _Megaf Sokomine, yep, they get taller and taller
18:50 tenplus1 those tree's are massive enough, do they really have to grow ?!?!?!
18:50 tenplus1 realism is great, but if it affects performance in a huge way to make it happen... hrm
18:51 _Megaf how can I increase the area volume thing?
18:52 tenplus1 split the checks into quadrants
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18:52 tenplus1 hi ssieb
18:55 IhrFussel tenplus1, apparently the player meant "priv to grant another player in his protection"
18:56 tenplus1 ohh, dont they have that already if they own the area ?
18:57 IhrFussel I guess their English is not that good... yes players can just add any other without any particular priv
18:57 tenplus1 :P
18:58 IhrFussel Such misunderstandings can cause bans xP
18:59 tenplus1 I had a player the other week sign on for the first time and demand 'fly' and 50 diamonds, lol... that got banned :P
18:59 Shara RC map may well be fixed... though I doubt it goes live again until tomorrow or sunday at the soonest
19:00 tenplus1 did you get the size down shara ?
19:01 _Megaf I'm glad in hearing that Shara
19:01 Shara It's currently sitting at around 16GB
19:02 Shara Problem is finding the best way for the person who has been working on it to get it back to the server
19:02 Shara SLow upload, so it might take quite some time
19:03 * IhrFussel is now a bit paranoid and checks "du map.sqlite" every few hours
19:03 Sokomine last time i played with them moretrees did not grow. i'm surprised to hear that they appear to do so now?
19:04 Sokomine Shara: that's good news!
19:05 * Mr-Pardison hands Shara a big warm mug of tea
19:05 tenplus1 :P
19:05 Shara Thanks Mr P. Was just thinking of making some
19:07 * Sokomine secretly abuses IhrFussels map to store some of her maps local maps that sum up in taking disk space :-)
19:07 Mr-Pardison !
19:09 benrob0329 Minetest, OBS, and Pale Moon open and its only using 526m of ram
19:09 benrob0329 My setup is ridiculously lightweight
19:10 Sokomine ah. good. free ram. i'm sure we can find a use for that as well :)
19:10 IhrFussel "sudo ufw deny from Sokomine to any"
19:15 _Megaf Anyone wants Amnesia Collection (Dark Descent and something pigs) for free?
19:15 _Megaf " Amnesia Collection includes the following products: Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs Amnesia: The Dark Descent "
19:16 _Megaf It's for Linux, Mac, Steam, Playstation and Windows
19:16 tenplus1 did you get a spare copy with humble bundle ?
19:16 _Megaf Maybe no playstation
19:16 _Megaf tenplus1, they are giving for everybody for free
19:16 _Megaf https://www.humblebundle.co​m/store/amnesia-collection
19:16 _Megaf 22 hours left of free game
19:17 tenplus1 wow, must be a new one coming out shortly :P
19:18 _Megaf Heh, maybe
19:18 Calinou Amnesia is notable for supporting Linux before Steam was available on Linux, in 2011
19:18 _Megaf Quite a nice discount of 30+ EUR is the actually real price
19:18 _Megaf Calinou, correct
19:19 Mr-Pardison have to go now.
19:19 Mr-Pardison will brb
19:19 _Megaf cya Mr-Pardison
19:19 _Megaf red-001, I'm in two channel now :)
19:19 _Megaf two on Freenode and two on OFCT xP
19:20 tenplus1 lol, turns out I already have them both :) ahahaha
19:20 _Megaf tenplus1, hahahahah
19:20 tenplus1 they tend to include them in humble bundles to pad it out
19:20 * Calinou claimed it, even though he'll probably never play them
19:20 Calinou I'm not much into horror games
19:20 Calinou (to not say "not at all")
19:20 _Megaf I will play I think, if I upgrade the CPU of this laptop
19:21 tenplus1 what spec ?
19:21 _Megaf AFAIK I can replace this 1,6 GHz Core2Duo to a 2,5 GHz Core2Duo with more cache, more FSB and same TDP
19:21 _Megaf it was the highest spec for this line
19:21 tenplus1 not too bad
19:22 _Megaf However, the socket does support a Core2Quad with even higher clock. Tho I don't know if the motherboard/BIOS will support
19:25 _Megaf I could add a Core 2 Extreme QX9300, 4 cores at 2,53GHz
19:25 _Megaf that would be a very nice upgrade
19:25 _Megaf It's only 10 Watts TDP above the current CPU
19:27 _Megaf If it wasnt so expensive I would try the quad core version http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Original-Intel-Core-2-Extre​me-QX9300-2-53-GHz-AW80581ZH061003-Processor-CPU/2​82051283432?hash=item41ab9109e8:g:gS0AAOSwepZXSQgH
19:28 tenplus1 not bad, so long as it works :)  what gpu you got ?
19:28 _Megaf tenplus1, what you'd take, 4 cores at 2,53 GHz or 2 cores at 3,07 GHz?
19:29 _Megaf the GPU is... well.. old intel integrated GPU
19:29 tenplus1 depending on the game 4 cores would give better results
19:30 Shara Estimated 24 hours until (hopefully) fixed map is back on the server!
19:30 shivajiva excellent news!
19:30 tenplus1 w00t!
19:30 _Megaf Shara, was vacuum ran on the map?
19:30 Shara Don't think he bothered. (no one seems to think it's really worth it)
19:30 _Megaf that *could* decrease the size
19:31 _Megaf tenplus1, I kinda like having 4 cores because compiling and stuff and multi tasking
19:31 _Megaf tenplus1, tho Minetest likes high clock
19:31 tenplus1 the decision has been made :PPP
19:31 Shara Been a long time since my server had so much free space
19:32 _Megaf I only play two games, Minetest and Flightgear, both are terrible at handling multithread
19:32 tenplus1 if it's 1.6 just now then 2.53 will surely give you a speed boost :)
19:32 tenplus1 and quad will help with Os running alongside
19:33 _Megaf https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Intel-Core-2-Du​o-Mobile-T9900-SLGEE-3-06-GHz-6MB-1066M​Hz-Processor-Dual-Core-CPU/141868021390​?hash=item2107fe368e:g:8HQAAOSwGotWiXO3
19:33 _Megaf http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Original-Intel-Core-2-Extre​me-QX9300-2-53-GHz-AW80581ZH061003-Processor-CPU/2​82051283432?hash=item41ab9109e8:g:gS0AAOSwepZXSQgH
19:33 _Megaf These are my options
19:34 IhrFussel Modern CPUs have more power at lower clocks right? That explains why a 2016 Xeon *core* with 2.5 Ghz wins against an AMD Opteron 2.6 Ghz core
19:34 _Megaf They are more efficient at some tasks yes
19:34 _Megaf Opteron still king in some tasks
19:35 _Megaf lets say that Opterons can run lots of things at the same time
19:35 _Megaf you just keep throwing things at them and they will not hang
19:35 _Megaf other CPUs would die
19:35 _Megaf Opteron will still keep going, slowly but no stop
19:35 tenplus1 wow, 3ghz option has a huge cache :P
19:35 IhrFussel max_lag on my old Opteron: 1.5 ... max_lag on this lower clocked Xeon: 0.5
19:36 IhrFussel Same world, same mods, same settings
19:36 _Megaf IhrFussel, now, if you run several servers there, Opteron my perform faster
19:36 _Megaf tenplus1, the quad core has 12 MB L3
19:36 _Megaf and 12 L2 too
19:37 tenplus1 personally I'd go for quad
19:37 _Megaf me too
19:37 _Megaf tho I have no idea if it would work
19:37 tenplus1 the problem with buying from ebay
19:37 tenplus1 dont you have buyer protection ?
19:38 Mr-Pardison joined #minetest-hub
19:38 _Megaf no, I dont know if it works because I dont know if this laptop would support it
19:38 _Megaf Mr-Pardison, welcome back
19:38 tenplus1 gotta research into mobo
19:39 Mr-Pardison ty _Megaf
19:39 tenplus1 could buy an Asus Tinkerboard for the same money with better gfx :D
19:40 Raven262 Another soul for my collection!
19:40 Raven262 Oh wait, I mean a game for my collection.
19:40 Raven262 Eh
19:40 Raven262 Thanks, _Megaf.
19:41 _Megaf :D
19:41 _Megaf tenplus1, hah, but it doesnt have screen, nor battery, nor keyboard, nor dvd burner, nor hard disk
19:41 tenplus1 ehehe
19:45 _Megaf that's the lappy. http://paste.debian.net/plain/1007389
19:46 tenplus1 not bad
19:46 _Megaf meh, it's old
19:47 _Megaf tho I find it quite good looking, and the keyboard is amazing
19:47 _Megaf long travel
19:47 tenplus1 :)
19:48 _Megaf and has all port you want, firewire, usb, pcmcia, sdcard, expansions, modem, network, vga, infrared, fingerprint reader, and so on
19:48 tenplus1 I had an old Compaq m2000 (1.6ghz single core, 1gb mem, 40gb hdd, intel 915 gfx)
19:48 _Megaf it has even s-video...
19:48 tenplus1 had to retire it when internal wifi died :(
19:49 tenplus1 is good to have a favourite pc :P
19:50 _Megaf This laptop is basically a 2008 MacBook Pro from HP
19:51 Jordach IhrFussel: Minetest loves Instructions Per Clock
19:51 Jordach minetest by design is cpu bound
19:51 Krock also using a laptop from 2008 here (dual-core pentium somewhat).. but not as main computer. Works still good enough to run Minetest and LibreOffice
19:51 Jordach it's why i get a fuck off 450fps
19:52 tenplus1 sweet, I get 60fps if I'm lucky :P
19:53 Mr-Pardison on my older lappy, I can get an average of 35 fps w/out shaders
19:53 Mr-Pardison with shaders, it's 10-12 fps
19:53 Jordach my view range is above 300
19:53 Jordach usually about 360
19:54 Jordach and still pushing above 100fps
19:54 Jordach obviously i have performance loss from meltdown
19:55 Jordach thanks ~~s o f a r~~ Intel
19:55 _Megaf hah
19:55 Jordach >tfw there's a crypto mining boom and you have an RX 480
19:55 Jordach >tfw you've got no income
20:02 Krock >tfw everybody on earth has the same problem
20:02 _Megaf tenplus1, you dont want to see a big date tree do you? Im about to chop down the offending date tree
20:02 tenplus1 lol
20:03 _Megaf and no idea whats >tfw is supposed to mean
20:03 Krock "the face when"
20:03 * tenplus1 hands you a super axe
20:03 * Krock gives _Megaf a chainsaw
20:03 * tenplus1 gives you world killing asteroid
20:04 Krock "Thanks For Watching
20:04 Krock Internet » Chat" sauce: https://www.abbreviations.com/TFW
20:05 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.ph​p?f=10&amp;t=13157&amp;p=309834#p309834
20:05 rubenwardy multiple maps released!
20:05 Krock aagh... red-001! I thought we fixed a bug.. another appeared
20:06 rubenwardy thanks red-001 for helping
20:06 tenplus1 what bug ?
20:07 Krock builtin HUDs don't update anymore
20:07 tenplus1 o.O it got worse
20:11 _Megaf well, I've just done a /clearobjects instead of a //clearobjects
20:12 _Megaf RIP server
20:12 _Megaf !server Megaf
20:12 MinetestBot _Megaf: Megaf Server V4.17 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 1/8, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.17-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 10ms
20:12 _Megaf that must be a cached response...
20:14 Krock fix seems easy. just two new table lookups and that stuff is fixed
20:17 IhrFussel Megaf, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6918
20:18 tenplus1 +1
20:18 _Megaf Oh boy
20:18 tenplus1 quick isnt so bad, but having to wait through a whole map is painful
20:18 _Megaf so much win if that gets merged
20:18 _Megaf I like the please idea too
20:18 IhrFussel tenplus1, quick will also delete all objects from DB just not right away but once every mapblock got loaded 1 time
20:19 _Megaf sfan5, Krock, you could write a solution for #6918 in about 134 seconds and merge it in 540 seconds.
20:19 tenplus1 wait, doesnt quick only remove objects from the already loaded areas ?!?!
20:19 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6918 -- Add a confirmation prompt to /clearobjects and /clearobjects quick
20:20 Krock _Megaf, interesting attempt in speeding the process up but the chances to fail are high
20:20 IhrFussel No, many read it wrong or ignore the 2nd line in the docs
20:20 IhrFussel "* mode = `"quick"`: Clear objects immediately in loaded mapblocks;
20:20 IhrFussel clear objects in unloaded mapblocks only when the mapblocks are next activated."
20:24 IhrFussel /clearobjects quick will basically update a timestamp in env_meta.txt "last_clear_objects_time = 23845738" and each mapblock that gets loaded contains a "last cleared" timestamp if I understood it correctly...if that last cleared time < last_clear_objects_time then the engine will delete all objects of it
20:24 _Megaf <ACTION> 2018-01-26 20:10:00: [Server] Megaf clears all objects (full mode).
20:24 _Megaf This will take up to 24 hours to finish
20:24 _Megaf lets see which server gets back online first, Shara's or Megaf's
20:24 tenplus1 damn
20:25 Mr-Pardison _Megaf: talking about RC and when it will get back up versus yours?
20:27 IhrFussel Megaf, not sure how safe it is to kill minetest while it's clearing objects
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20:27 _Megaf well, he tried, he died...
20:27 _Megaf :P
20:27 _Megaf xerox123, !
20:27 tenplus1 hi xer
20:28 _Megaf tenplus1, I beat you 3 times today in saying high for people
20:28 tenplus1 :P
20:28 tenplus1 your on da ball :)
20:28 * tenplus1 watches dank memes
20:28 CWz joined #minetest-hub
20:28 tenplus1 hi Wa
20:28 tenplus1 k, it's oficial, need new kb
20:29 tenplus1 ded keys
20:29 ThomasMonroe lol
20:29 Wayward_One eww
20:29 _Megaf lol tenplus1
20:31 Shara _Megaf: good luck :(
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20:32 tenplus1 hi nerzhul
20:36 _Megaf Don't know if I should remove office from my computer and just use cloud based office instead
20:36 sfan5 cloud
20:36 _Megaf I quite like the office software I have
20:36 tenplus1 what office sw you got on hdd ?
20:36 _Megaf !server Megaf
20:36 MinetestBot _Megaf: No results
20:36 _Megaf yep, down, due clearobjects
20:38 _Megaf tenplus1, this https://i.imgur.com/yT0opg3.png
20:39 xerox123 joined #minetest-hub
20:39 tenplus1 ahh, used that a while back, not bad :) closed source tho isnt it ?
20:39 _Megaf Hi xerox123
20:39 _Megaf tenplus1, unfortunately
20:39 xerox123 hello
20:39 _Megaf xerox123, what's that sweet stats page again?
20:39 xerox123 having some issues with my ZNC/IRCd etc.
20:40 tenplus1 doesnt the latest libreoffice have the ribbon bar as well ?!?!
20:40 xerox123 it's down rn. wait 10 minutes
20:40 xerox123 www.xeroxirc.net:81/minetest-hub when it's up
20:40 _Megaf tenplus1, it does, and it's ugly and broken as heck
20:41 tenplus1 aww
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20:42 tenplus1 wb paramat
20:43 ThomasMonroe wb paramat
20:44 * _Megaf removes wps-office
20:44 _Megaf I could have beaten both of you...
20:45 tenplus1 only problem with web based office is that when internet is down for any reason you cant edit anything or view
20:45 paramat _Megaf "find_nodes_in_area(): area volume exceeds allowed value of 551368" we added a check to avoid excessively large areas (larger than a mapchunk), moretrees uses excessively large areas so needs to be altered
20:45 Shara Hi paramat
20:45 Jordach tenplus1: *laughs in office 365*
20:45 paramat hello all
20:45 tenplus1 o/
20:45 _Megaf Jordach, lol
20:45 Jordach paramat: you're not the only one fucked over by DWP :^)
20:46 _Megaf paramat, well, the problem there was a bung of date palms in close proximity
20:46 Jordach except if they try again, lawsuit
20:46 _Megaf bunch*
20:48 Jordach someone who works locally reviewed my medical history and said they should've never took it away
20:49 _Megaf /dev/sda5      237056 137448  99608   58% /
20:49 _Megaf don't use large blocks in your ext4 FS
20:49 _Megaf just dont
20:50 _Megaf it doesnt matter if your system will be 3x faster
20:50 _Megaf you will run out of inodes all the time
20:50 _Megaf /dev/sda5         236737  3524    230828   2% /
20:50 _Megaf I have used 2% of MBs and 58% of inodes
20:50 Jordach the hell are inodes
20:51 tenplus1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inode
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20:52 Megaf_ Hi tenplus1
20:52 Megaf_ :)
20:52 ThomasMonroe lol
20:53 tenplus1 wb :P
20:55 _Megaf 725M/var/log
20:55 _Megaf that's a lot of log for a system less than a week old
20:56 tenplus1 indeed... mines is in tmpfs
20:56 _Megaf 236M/var/log/messages
20:56 _Megaf 15M/var/log/installer
20:56 _Megaf 236M/var/log/kern.log
20:56 _Megaf [10598.469711] [drm:intel_pipe_update_end [i915]] *ERROR* Atomic update failure on pipe B (start=633008 end=633009) time 345 us, min 795, max 799, scanline start 791, end 808
20:56 _Megaf [11081.654140] [drm:intel_pipe_update_end [i915]] *ERROR* Atomic update failure on pipe B (start=661923 end=661924) time 721 us, min 795, max 799, scanline start 774, end 810
20:56 _Megaf I hate intel
20:56 _Megaf And nvidia
20:57 _Megaf there's lots of ugly stuff in the messages, oh my
20:57 _Megaf [  335.150905] EXT4-fs (sda4): unable to read superblock
20:57 _Megaf [  335.187468] XFS (sda4): Invalid superblock magic number
20:57 _Megaf [  335.194220] FAT-fs (sda4): bogus number of reserved sectors
20:57 _Megaf look at that
20:58 tenplus1 check S.M.A.R.T logs, see if drive is failing
20:58 _Megaf /dev/sda4       491522046 976771071 485249026 231.4G  5 Extended
20:58 sofar does it still boot?
20:58 _Megaf That's just Linux doing shi**
20:58 _Megaf sda4 is not XFS
20:59 _Megaf is just an extended partition for sda5
20:59 sofar what fs is sda4?
20:59 sofar ah
20:59 _Megaf /dev/sda5       491522048 976771071 485249024 231.4G 83 Linux
20:59 _Megaf That's ext4
20:59 sofar just autodetection going wrong
20:59 sofar everyone is doing gpt nowadays
20:59 _Megaf [  346.545584] FAT-fs (sda4): Can't find a valid FAT filesystem
20:59 sofar well duh
20:59 _Megaf sda4 WAS a NTFS partition
21:00 _Megaf but because windows had used all primary partitons and had no logical partitions I had to delete that partition and create an extended
21:01 tenplus1 what distro ?
21:01 _Megaf and the feck is this? http://paste.debian.net/plain/1007399
21:01 _Megaf sofar,                             ^
21:01 _Megaf tenplus1, Debian 8
21:02 sofar vblank timed out
21:02 sofar is there a display attached?
21:02 sofar 4.9 kernel, probably old stuff
21:02 sofar update your kernel :)
21:03 sfan5 but he's using debian
21:03 tenplus1 try Lubuntu 17.10, it's light and has 4.13 kernel
21:03 sofar sure, they've backported retpoline to 4.9, right :)
21:04 sofar sorry, I'm biased ;)
21:04 _Megaf tenplus1, I can just upgrade to Debian 9...
21:04 paramat Jordach sorry to hear it, i wish you well
21:04 Jordach paramat: not a worry, there's a worker willing to legal battle
21:04 tenplus1 that too :P
21:04 Jordach he read my medical crap
21:05 Shara Yet I have relatives who basically lie so they can claim...
21:05 * tenplus1 notices that lubuntu 17.10 is built on debian 9 :PP
21:05 Shara They get more in handouts than I can actually earn...
21:05 * Shara doesn't like certain things in this country :P
21:06 * Jordach doesn't like liberal immigration
21:06 tenplus1 true shara, I know someone who gets almost 26k of handouts PA where I made half that if lucky
21:07 Shara Let's just say I'm deeply ashamed of some of my own family members
21:07 Jordach ^
21:07 * _Megaf starts upgrade to Debian 9
21:07 Jordach my older brothers work, my younger? total chav
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21:07 tenplus1 wb fussel
21:07 _Megaf welcome back IhrFussel
21:07 _Megaf tenplus1, lol, I wrote more stuff
21:07 Jordach put it like this, my dad wondered enough about my condition he had my genetics analysed
21:07 _Megaf =/
21:07 IhrFussel Is there a way to get meta of an item from the stack?
21:07 tenplus1 ehehe
21:08 IhrFussel Thanks guys^^
21:08 Jordach local meta = itemstack:get_meta()
21:08 tenplus1 if an item is in a stack then meta will be copied to them all I think
21:08 Jordach treat itemstack meta like player attributes
21:08 Jordach they work identically
21:08 Jordach except the description and color tags
21:10 IhrFussel Jordach, I'm trying to copy the meta of the purchased item so that the added item has the same meta as the one in the shop... any easy way to do that? Relevant lines are pinv:remove_item("main", pay)
21:10 IhrFussel pinv:add_item("main", stack)
21:11 Jordach IhrFussel: figure out what slot the item went into, load the itemstack
21:11 red-001 Krock, huh?
21:11 Jordach then set meta
21:11 red-001 I tested the changes and didn't see that
21:11 Jordach or use ItemStack()
21:11 Jordach then add ItemStack() to the player inv
21:12 red-001 oh I see I messed up on types
21:12 _Megaf closing hexchat here to free RAM, ping me at Megaf
21:12 _Megaf cya
21:12 * Mr-Pardison tosses a ping at Megaf
21:13 tenplus1 lol
21:13 tenplus1 nite folks :)
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21:14 Megaf Mr-Pardison: :)
21:15 Megaf had to free ram because packages cache is ramdisk and im doing a dist upgrade
21:19 Sokomine Raven262: thanks to your model, the plasterwork mod is now ready :-)
21:23 Sokomine paramat: will that "excessively large areas" also affect mg_villages? after all it does read the mapblock plus shell in order to be able to do repairs
21:28 paramat the check is only for 'minetest.find nodes in area' not LVM
21:30 Sokomine aah. thanks
21:31 xerox123 Megaf: the stats page is not up :)
21:31 xerox123 now
21:31 Megaf link again
21:32 paramat Sokomine see end of https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/pull/6965#issuecomment-360907810
21:32 Megaf please
21:33 ThomasMonroe joined #minetest-hub
21:33 Megaf wb Thomas-S
21:33 Megaf ThomasMonroe:
21:33 Megaf =/
21:33 Megaf Hi Thomas-S
21:33 Megaf streets working well by the way, with one little problem
21:33 Megaf if I type sign to search for streets signs, none show up
21:37 xerox123 www.xeroxirc.net:81/minetest-hub
21:39 Megaf lol, now CWz is the most talktive of all time
21:39 Megaf that is a lie
21:39 Megaf ah
21:39 Megaf less talktive
21:39 Megaf ok, my bad
21:40 Megaf CWz: you talk too little
21:40 Megaf I like the "Most Talkative People by Time of Day"part
21:40 Mr-Pardison Megaf: you talk too much
21:40 Mr-Pardison compared to CWz ofc.
21:41 ThomasMonroe lol
21:41 Megaf Mr-Pardison: I'm hyper-active, I'm supposed to talk a lot
21:41 ThomasMonroe Megaf just talks in short sentences
21:41 Megaf ThomasMonroe: That is not correct. Sometimes I do indeed. But often I write proper sentences, Like this one
21:41 Jordach >Most Referenced Domain Names
21:41 Jordach >54 | 9 | http://jordach.net
21:41 Jordach make that 55 pls
21:41 Megaf Jordach: hah
21:42 ThomasMonroe lol
21:42 Jordach >Words of 7 Characters
21:42 Jordach players \n because \n servers \n already \n problem
21:42 Megaf hah! I LMAO
21:43 Megaf that is so perfect
21:43 Megaf and server \n should \n player \n really \n people is nice too Jordach
21:43 Megaf all lists are cool
21:44 Megaf !server Megaf
21:44 MinetestBot Megaf: No results
21:44 Megaf =
21:44 Megaf =/
21:46 Jordach <rubenwardy> also,    !(a==a)  won't work with fast-math
21:46 Jordach when did Lua hire Big Shaq?
21:46 rubenwardy ?
21:46 Jordach (i'm referencing Man's Not Hot)
21:46 ThomasMonroe longet monologue: Megaf 29
21:46 rubenwardy ?
21:46 ThomasMonroe longest*
21:46 Jordach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M_5oYU-IsU
21:47 Megaf moddiest people: tenplus1
21:47 Megaf moodiest*
21:47 * Megaf slaps ThomasMonroe
21:47 * Megaf slaps Jordach
21:48 * Mr-Pardison throws the kitchen sink at Jordach
21:48 * Jordach makes diamond tools take an extra 10% of total wear at random
21:48 Jordach 8k durability
21:48 Megaf Oo
21:48 ThomasMonroe :O ow
21:48 Jordach they break entirely in about 9 cracks
21:49 Megaf IhrFussel and rubenwardy are the most kicked people of this channel
21:49 Raven262 Sokomine, Nice.
21:49 Jordach kektus
21:49 rubenwardy that's because I usually kick myself as a joke XD
21:49 rubenwardy usually, as in a few times
21:49 Raven262 Sorry for the late response, blame Megaf for showing me that game :)
21:50 Raven262 Its so hard to type after playing that thing
21:50 Mr-Pardison I kick myself from DL if I'm online and am going to be afk for my own safety even tho I keep my name hidden.
21:50 Megaf Raven262: hah, that's an amazing game isnt it
21:50 Megaf which one were you playing?
21:50 xerox123 maybe put the link in the topic
21:51 * Jordach is tempted to hide a skkkrraatttt for MESE levelling
21:51 Jordach i have a meme problem
21:51 Raven262 The first one, descent into the darkness
21:51 Shara Better to leave only official links in the topic
21:52 Raven262 "Dark Descent"
21:52 Raven262 Well damn, I was sure it was the other way around :P
21:53 Megaf "Megaf typed 9,533 lines on #minetest-hub – an average of 68 lines per day.
21:53 Megaf Most active day was Dec 15, 2017 with a total of 369 lines typed"
21:53 Mr-Pardison Megaf: I'm also hyper-active but you see I don't type much.
21:54 Megaf Because you are not in holidays
21:54 Megaf :P
21:58 Megaf # uptime
21:58 Megaf 21:58:34 up 5 days,  1:40,  1 user,  load average: 0.15, 0.29, 0.64
21:58 Megaf time to reboot because kernel update
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22:05 Megaf_ Wow! Did MATE get fancy on Debian 9
22:05 Megaf_ with these animations and fade stuff
22:18 Megaf_ joined #minetest-hub
22:19 Megaf there
22:20 Megaf_ joined #minetest-hub
23:05 Megaf !server Megaf
23:05 MinetestBot Megaf: No results
23:10 Fixer joined #minetest-hub
23:43 ThomasMonroe Bye all

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