Time Nick Message 02:08 jas_ there's definitely an el sound in walk, it's just very nuanced 02:08 jas_ it's certainly not wok as in stir fry 12:53 atorian37 hi admins 12:53 atorian37 i hope there is some help for me here 12:54 atorian37 i use futureban mod to ban players and these days, a player chatted with another one and told him, he has a hack to connect even if he is banned. 12:54 atorian37 i checked that, it's true, he connected even if he is in the ipban.txt file 12:56 atorian37 he is in the ban list with another ip but the playername is also there, is that behavior normal? 12:59 Shara Depends on the ban mod. 13:00 Shara Both xban and sban group player names/IP addresses, but I have no idea how futureban works 13:07 atorian37 maybe I should use another mod? wich one is most popular to securily ban (without using the systems firewall)? 13:08 IhrFussel You can only ban an IP or a IP range in MT...there is nothing more secure 13:09 Shara xban is well used, sban is newer but well maintained and issues get fixed quick. I go with sban myself because I prefer to have a proper db for bans, but it's really up to you 13:09 IhrFussel IP range can match false positives (people from the same ISP for example) 13:09 atorian37 I thought it a good idea with futureban, because it adds the new ip to the player in ipban.txt if it changes, but it seems not to work anymore because of a hack from the client 13:10 Shara I don't see how a client could "hack" a way to dodge bans. But since I don't know the mod, I can't really say what might be wrong 13:11 atorian37 I have no idea, because I am no developper - I cannot read/understand the code in the deep 13:12 Shara I can't even find futureban from a quick search 13:12 atorian37 ok I check the author 13:12 Shara But th eonly post I found about it akes it sound like it's meant to be used with another ban mod anyway 13:12 Shara makes* 13:13 Shara So I'd suggest picking one of the other mods I named 13:15 atorian37 the code is here: hhtps://github.com/nyje/future_ban 13:16 atorian37 ok I guess thats what I will do 13:17 Shara Yea, that doesn't look well supported or... anything really. No license, no documentation, no recent updates. 13:19 atorian37 Thank you! I will give sban a try :) 13:30 atorian37 for sban, can I just install lsqlite3 with apt install on my server, does the sban create the db itself ...? 13:30 Shara I think you need to, but best to check with shivajiva 13:31 atorian37 ok 13:31 benrob0329 I have just realized I can record cinematic passes as slow as possible, then speed them up in post as needed 13:31 benrob0329 Why have I not thought of this before 13:33 red-001 atorian37, I guess they just restart their router to get a new IP address 13:34 red-001 also future ban only bans the player by name 13:34 red-001 and only once 13:41 IhrFussel I state "1 account per person" in the rules and I added it to the join message ... are people really too umb to see it? "oh i didnt know you could only have 1 account" -.- 13:41 IhrFussel dumb* 13:47 IhrFussel Maybe I should send it regularly in the chat as info message 13:48 Raven262 IhrFussel, try adding a chat message that appears every 3 minutes, saying some of the rules. :P 13:55 IhrFussel Raven262, not every 3 but there is a server info every 5 minutes that lists AFK players and I can add it there 13:56 Raven262 Yeah, but that would make a long message. On android clients this can cover up the whole screen. 13:56 Raven262 Better add another interval or something. 14:01 IhrFussel The AFK-list is mostly empty so it's fine there ... could max occupy 1 1/2 lines 15:46 Fixer hoooly crap, found misa texture pack for beta 1.7.3, this is rare stuff 16:40 rubenwardy atorian37: I recommend either xban or sban. xban is more stable, but may suffer from data loss after longer periods of time. sban is fairly unstable 16:41 Mr_Pardison rubenwardy: why do you say sban is unstable? 16:41 rubenwardy because it's failed to ban players multiple times 16:41 Mr_Pardison that's a problem that I've come up against. 16:41 rubenwardy and because it's rolling release you can't be sure if a commit will work 16:42 Shara I've had no issues since the last update some time back 16:42 Mr_Pardison solution is not to use : but rather , 16:42 rubenwardy huh? 16:42 Shara MR P, RC is still on the known to be glitchy version because I fail as a server owner 16:42 Mr_Pardison you? fail? never. 16:42 Shara Sorry - keep bugging me to update it 16:44 Shara And yes, me, fail, always :) 16:46 shivajiva rolling, rolling, rolling along 16:46 shivajiva sung ofc ^ 16:46 Shara :D 16:48 shivajiva now it's on a server at my disposal I should be able to find wth it's doing or what I'm not doing :D 16:48 rubenwardy XD 16:48 rubenwardy servers are the best way to test mods 16:49 Shara You need lots of people to ban :) 16:49 rubenwardy I found loads of bugs in CTF when hosting it 16:49 Shara Finally a reason to wish for troublemakers :) 16:54 Wayward_One lol 16:54 Wayward_One hi all :) 16:54 shivajiva Hiya :) 16:56 Mr_Pardison \o Wayward_One 17:21 * Megaf sneaks in 17:22 * Mr-Pardison spies a sneaking Megaf 17:22 Megaf I'd go to a clothes optinal beach in Ireland today. If it wasn't 0C... 17:24 Megaf nevermind the clothes, it's 0C 17:27 Megaf Mr-Pardison: hows your server going? 17:27 Mr-Pardison Megaf: I don't have a server. 17:27 * twoelk notices Megaf is back in Europe 17:27 Mr-Pardison I merely assist in the running of them. 17:28 Mr-Pardison at least keeping things going smoothly while the admins are away or are busy. 17:28 Megaf Mr-Pardison: I know the server doesnt belongs to you.. 17:28 Megaf twoelk: Yes I am indeed 17:28 Megaf got back to Ireland Monday 17:28 Megaf welcomed by wind, cold and rain 17:28 * twoelk looks out of the window as it snows outside and wonders how warm Brazil might be now 17:28 Megaf very same weather the day I left 17:29 Megaf twoelk: it was around 36C where I was 17:30 Megaf I'm thinking wich browser I should install in my Android 17:30 Megaf I quite like Opera Mini a lot 17:30 Megaf but it has been sending ads in the lock screen 17:30 twoelk it snowed somewhat the last two days here but it is too warm to stay so you might imagine the size of the puddles, ever growing 17:31 Megaf Snowed here too yesterday, for a couple of hours, not enough to acumulate much on the ground tho, just on houses roofs 17:33 Krock < hi tenplus1 > 17:33 Megaf Hi Krock 17:33 Krock hi Megaf 17:34 Megaf he is not here :P 17:34 Mr-Pardison sadly. 17:34 Krock I know. hence, the LT, GT signs 17:34 Megaf sad is my GNOME 3 running at 640x480 17:35 Megaf I managed to start Debian that I have installed in my machine, inside virtualbox 17:35 Megaf can't get the resultuion to work yet 17:42 Megaf dat spelling 17:45 Shara I don't suppose we have any bored artists who feel like creating awesome node textures for me? :P 17:46 * Megaf hides 17:46 twoelk awesome as in disgusting? 17:47 Megaf maybe as in ugly as heck 17:47 Shara Well, I need ones for poisionous grass and marshland nodes... which may class as disgusting? 17:48 Megaf twoelk: bad luck man, you have to make some textures now 17:48 Shara Yay! :D 17:49 twoelk well ... teachers said I could draw well but my sense of colors was ... meh ... not gonna tell 17:50 Mr-Pardison Shara: https://github.com/tenplus1/mobs_monster/commit/20fba93293a87f5da7bfe5a1e6e9edc06b38ce01#diff-5425005fa4a440fd810bef540819f0a3 line 113. 17:50 Shara Uhm... why do we want things bursting into flame? 17:50 Mr-Pardison the obsidian. 17:50 Shara twoelk: colours I can always adapt 17:51 Megaf twoelk: worst thing that can happen is she not using the texture. Best thing is a lovely credits to you. 17:51 Shara I'm honestly happy for any help I can get, because... I hate making textures 17:52 Megaf in one of the mods I made I just ended up using invisible nodes because I didnt want to make textures for it 17:52 * twoelk looks franticly for a place to hide 17:52 Shara I'm borrowing random MTG ones for now, but they don't cover everything I need, even just as placeholders 17:53 Megaf It ended up being one of the most liked mods of my server because people liked building invisible wallks and bridges for some reason 17:53 * Shara eats all the hiding places and stares at twoelk 17:53 twoelk oh, erm, got to print the next batch of 50 pages of my 500 page document - printer needs my attention - really - all true 17:54 Megaf Shara: are you hungry for printers? 17:54 Megaf or sheets of paper 17:54 twoelk damn these new printers are way too fast :-D 17:56 Shara :D 18:02 benrob0329 o/ 18:02 * twoelk notices his version of paintNET is way outdated 18:02 Mr-Pardison \o 18:03 benrob0329 twoelk: Krita and/or Gimp :P 18:03 benrob0329 Or aseprite if your doing Pixel Art 18:05 twoelk LOL you mean I should dump windows Paintbrush after using it for 20+ years 18:05 benrob0329 twoelk: thats what Microsoft did :^) 18:06 twoelk it did? oops might have an old version 18:08 Shara :D 18:09 Shara I probably would eat printers if that was what it took. 18:18 * twoelk looks at the old printer he hasn't brought to the dump yet 18:19 * Shara will dispose of it for textures? 18:22 twoelk https://i.imgur.com/9A3TsI2.png hehe, at least the color looks evil 18:24 Shara ohhhh 18:24 Shara It's swirly! 18:25 twoelk yeah more weed than grass 18:27 twoelk https://i.imgur.com/SMiE5d8.png lol - somehow not the right direction 18:33 Shara The only actual plants I have so far: http://gingercat.tk/dg/hw_suntwist.png 18:33 Shara (probably taken at the worst angle possible too, but oh well :P) 18:36 twoelk hmm, maybe I shouldn't smoke the stuff I draw https://i.imgur.com/t5Pv8Ow.png 18:38 Shara Hah! :D 18:38 Mr-Pardison never do that. 18:38 Mr-Pardison you don't want to know what happens when you do. 18:42 twoelk why do my plants look happy instead of evil let alone gloomy? 18:45 Shara I'm not sure 18:45 Shara Maybe try the node instead of a plant? 18:48 twoelk oh, I did change the nodes :-( 18:48 Shara But that was just colour change? 18:48 twoelk compare the pictures 18:48 twoelk yep 18:48 Shara I'm hoping for fully new textures 18:48 Shara I did a full set of colour changed grass nodes here: https://github.com/Ezhh/abri 18:49 Shara That was my first test for learning how biome registration works, and I'm now working on a "real" set of biomes 18:49 twoelk I said I'm no expert, might add I'm also quite lazy :-D 18:49 Shara Same problem :D 18:50 Shara That test was giving some interesting result like http://gingercat.tk/mt/colour_test03.png (big image sorry) 18:54 twoelk https://i.imgur.com/Sp4sraj.png maybe purple is the way to go 18:54 Shara Hmm 18:55 * twoelk remembers toying with abri 18:56 Shara I'll probably expand it more at some point, since it is kind of fun to wander round in, especially with all the different colour stone underground 19:10 twoelk https://i.imgur.com/SEllGnJ.png hmm, ok, new node texture still shows pattern and purple grass doesn't stand out enough, note the recolored redplants ;-P 19:11 twoelk actually them green on purple plants look happily healthy 19:12 Shara Making sure there is no unncessary patterning when tiling is... well, let's use the word "fun" 19:12 Shara unnecessary* 19:16 * twoelk watches sheep wandering over purple grass notices a white rabbit nibbling at his feet - somewhat surreal 19:17 * ThomasMonroe wonders what world twoelk lives on 19:18 Krock twoelk, watch another video 19:18 Mr-Pardison g2g cya in a bit 19:18 Mr-Pardison I live in my own little world. 19:19 Mr-Pardison It's OK, they know me here. 19:19 ThomasMonroe lol 21:06 twoelk some strange place https://i.imgur.com/QBBWcvx.jpg 21:07 ThomasMonroe tx pack? 21:09 Fixer twoelk: hold my peanuts https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTrHh8SWkAAtpeX.jpg:large 21:10 twoelk ermm, no please, even if they are as small as peanuts, no thank you, I'll just take that monitor :-P 21:12 Fixer twoelk: not sure if you understanded the meme though 21:38 Fixer faaaaaaaaaaaaster 21:38 Fixer god damn firefox 22:41 Sokomine Shara: if you discover any artists hiding somewhere, please tell me! i often need textures as well. most of the time i manage to catch vanessae :-) sometimes jordach 22:42 Sokomine megaf: plenty of my nodes share the textures from the locked chest. textures...are more difficult than creating something complex 22:44 Shara Sokomine: Still digging for some. 22:44 Megaf Fixer: I gave up on firefox 22:44 rubenwardy :O 22:45 rubenwardy works well for me 22:45 rubenwardy well 22:45 Megaf Fixer: I'm using mostly Safari on macOS, the Preview version 22:45 rubenwardy tabs occasionally freeze with quantum 22:45 Megaf amazingly fast 22:45 rubenwardy hoping they're fix that 22:45 rubenwardy hmm, hang is probably a better world. The browser is still usable, just not that tab 22:45 Megaf on Linux I'm using mostly Opera 22:45 Sokomine twoelk: if it's surreal, add it to ethereal 22:48 Fixer i'm using ESR version though 22:49 Sokomine havn't found a really usable browser for android yet. something that serves me instead of the next best advertiser/abuser would be welcomed 22:55 Megaf Just took this macro of my laptops LCD screen. https://imgur.com/a/pdnr7 22:59 rubenwardy your DPI's a little low 22:59 Megaf or de magification is a little huge... 23:06 Megaf rubenwardy: phones OLED https://i.imgur.com/yrxkVLv.jpg 23:07 Megaf where is a bunch of red pixels is actually white 23:09 rubenwardy nice 23:13 rubenwardy is there a way to make a one way node without relying on weird engine bugs? 23:14 Shara One way in what sense? 23:14 rubenwardy you can walk through it in one direction, but not another 23:14 rubenwardy *the other 23:15 rubenwardy guess what I'd like this for :P 23:15 Shara No idea, but often wanted it myself for things 23:16 Shara Even my one way glass nodes are perfect sadly :( 23:16 Shara aren't* 23:16 Shara So one way walking seemed too far 23:17 Megaf rubenwardy: you can make some traps using mesecons... 23:17 Megaf and ghoststones 23:17 rubenwardy heh, that's not very clean 23:17 rubenwardy especially if there's a large amount of players 23:17 rubenwardy ie: ctf 23:19 Shara I'm so tired of so many issues with flickering water :( 23:21 Fixer Shara: me too, lets bump that issue on github 23:21 Shara Can't have ice using alpha over water 23:21 Shara Can't place nodebox in water 23:21 shivajiva isn't that the dreaded layering of alpha textures nobody wants to attempt? 23:21 Shara It's like a crazy flashing mad disco 23:22 Shara Yup, seems so 23:22 Shara I can't even use my porthole nodes under water due to it 23:23 rubenwardy semi-transparency is difficult 23:23 rubenwardy well, heh 23:23 rubenwardy requires multiple rendering passes and sorting 23:23 Shara Hmm, actually portholes aren't flickering.. but the weird thing is, even when placed deep underwater, the inside of the node shows a water surface 23:23 Fixer i was complaining for this for years 23:24 Sokomine Shara: i'm still looking for some ships to place on the map.... 23:24 shivajiva the issue is 5 years old I believe 23:24 Fixer shivajiva: 8 years ago iirc 23:24 shivajiva and yea ruben that's a lot of processing just to clean it up 23:26 Shara Look at this: http://gingercat.tk/dg/porthole_problem.png 23:26 Shara The water surface is a couple of nodes above 23:26 Shara But within that node, you see a new water surface 23:27 Shara Why would water go inside a nodebox? 23:27 Shara I can noclip inside it, see air, and see a water surface both below and above me 23:29 Shara And then on other nodeboxes, the water texture can be seen flashing on their sides instead 23:29 Fixer wth, where is that PR with alpha texures, no way it is closed 23:31 Shara Hmm, oddly, whether it flickers seems like it might have something to do with height (y) placement 23:32 rubenwardy I'd also love to make clouds volumetric 23:32 Fixer Shara: bump this https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5083 23:33 rubenwardy so when you're inside the fog is closer and white, also less weird edge effects when inside 23:33 Shara Fixer: There was another issue which had something about this, and which even had a video wuzzy posted of my exact problem 23:33 Fixer Shara: about ice? 23:33 Shara And I'm not even sure what this second water level inside a node thing is to do with 23:33 Shara Fixer: yes 23:34 Fixer it is all about this z-sorting 23:39 Shara Oh well, added comment 23:44 Megaf tongue* 23:45 Megaf do I still* 23:45 Megaf Where's the customer service? If I go to the church, will they give me a refund? 23:48 Megaf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawsuits_against_God