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00:21 sofar anyway, it's all posted now, people can check out the code and whatnot
00:23 sofar taking a break
00:34 * Megaf_ breaks sofar s break
00:34 * rubenwardy gives sofar a kit kat
00:35 Megaf hah, good one
00:35 Megaf !server Megaf
00:35 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server V4.17 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/10, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.17-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 13ms
00:35 Megaf 0 clients!
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00:36 Megaf back in the day it was very complicated doing maintenance in my server, having to ask for people to leave
00:36 Megaf now a days is so easy...
00:36 Megaf I just shut it down
00:36 Megaf Aello: hello guy from Matrix
00:36 rubenwardy there's like no info about megaf there
00:36 rubenwardy fake news
00:37 Megaf rubenwardy: I don't get it, where did that come from?
00:37 rubenwardy I have /ctf_queue_restart for that, causes the server to start at the end of a round
00:37 rubenwardy mt.megaf.info:30003 -> megaf.info
00:37 Megaf LMAO
00:38 Megaf rubenwardy: you might want to try https://megafs.wordpress.com thats the "English version"
00:39 rubenwardy that infographic is horribly stretched
00:40 Megaf wordpress fault
00:40 Megaf when I posted it was fine
00:41 Megaf I quite like this tutorial I wrote for that blog https://megafs.wordpress.com/2013/06/05/und​erstanding-the-linux-permissions-and-chmod/
00:41 Megaf !title
00:41 MinetestBot Megaf: Understanding the Linux permissions and chmod. | Megaf Info
00:45 Megaf though my English was not that good
00:49 sofar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PWu3BRxn60
00:50 Megaf !title
00:50 MinetestBot Megaf: ZUMA Mission - YouTube
00:50 * Megaf clicks
00:51 paramat me too
00:52 Megaf Its a live trnasmission for a nice ressuply mission to the ISS
00:53 Megaf and they will land the rocket
00:53 Megaf or try ti
00:53 Megaf to
00:53 paramat it's a top secret payload
00:55 Megaf it might explode on launch
00:56 Megaf space.com website really sucks
01:00 Megaf oh boy
01:00 Megaf there it goes
01:09 sofar no iss mission
01:09 sofar zuma == sekret
01:10 paramat \O/
01:21 Wayward_One that launch was great, but the landing was so much better :D
01:22 Wayward_One the way the booster lit up the clouds on it's way down was just beautiful
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01:25 Megaf sofar: they might go to the ISS and you will never know
01:25 Megaf I'm the only one who knows
01:26 * Megaf waits for the federal agents to know at my door, in t -70 seconds
01:26 Megaf xP
01:28 Megaf well, I'm still here
01:28 Megaf this might take longer than I was expecting
01:29 Megaf landing of the rocket in case yu missed https://youtu.be/0PWu3BRxn60?t=1635
01:29 Megaf !title
01:29 MinetestBot Megaf: ZUMA Mission - YouTube
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03:28 tumeninodes Nice parking job.
03:29 tumeninodes I think the speed monitor was the rate at which Elon's portfolio and wallet grew
03:29 benrob0329 G'night, irc really takes a toll on my battery so I'mma mostly be on here from my laptop/desktop.
03:30 tumeninodes night benrob
03:38 tumeninodes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mleQVO1Vd1I so much is wrong and sad about this video, I don't know where to begin. I which I had the means to adopt the boy Emanual at the beginning, and give him a real childhood :'(
03:38 tumeninodes sorry for so off-topic
04:07 Lord_Buckethead hi tumeninodes
04:12 tumeninodes hi blue :P
04:12 Lord_Buckethead oh noes, my secrect identity is known
04:13 tumeninodes muahahaha
04:13 tumeninodes your base are all belong to us
04:16 tumeninodes so yet another day, I intended to fix some issues with some of my mods... and I accomplished... nothing
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05:25 Lord_Buckethead how DMCA'd freeminer anyways? I did proller mention it?
05:25 Lord_Buckethead who*
05:26 Hijiri what is a mese filter/injector supposed to do when in rotation mode?
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06:15 Lord_Buckethead hi nerzhul
06:17 nerzhul hi
07:06 jas_ hi
07:20 jas_ fine, i didn't want to play minetest anyway!  haha, bbfn
07:21 Lord_Buckethead thats midly confusing
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13:10 Megaf Greetings
13:10 Megaf so, here I am, having my coffee, in this mug https://i.ebayimg.com/images/a/T2eC16​Z,!zEE9s3!YboFBQ5PTkjp9w~~/s-l300.jpg
13:10 Megaf and they I read it.
13:10 Megaf Now I feel sad
13:18 shivajiva meh you should keep in mind most successful businesses are run by people who went bankrupt at some point to avoid their debts.
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13:33 IhrFussel Hello guys...is it normal that my root server already uses swap even though the memory usage is below 15% ?
13:34 Mr_Pardison depends on your swap setting.
13:36 IhrFussel The swappiness is 60
13:38 IhrFussel Total RAM is 11 GB, in use 574 MB, cached 10 GB
13:38 Mr_Pardison I'm not completely sure but that probably isn't normal.
13:38 shivajiva that's a lot of cache
13:39 nerzhul It's normal
13:39 nerzhul if you server is a VM set vm.swappiness=10
13:39 nerzhul 10GB cache means the OS has 10GB disk data in memory
13:40 nerzhul it can be anything on disk, it depend on the recent usage, disk cache is always used and you should always have it else you will kill your disks :p
13:41 shivajiva The disk cache will grow until you have no free memory left...
13:41 shivajiva When you need more memory, some blocks will be evicted from the disk cache to make room. This eviction is controlled by a policy designed to maximize efficiency. E.g. "LRU": evict the Least Recently Used block.
13:45 IhrFussel The only big file on my root server is map.sqlite ... all other files are mainly a few KBs
13:46 nerzhul IhrFussel, anything can be in disk cache, binaries, logs ...
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13:51 Mr_Pardison So, I have a question about how to change the key that activates and deactivates the woodcutter mod function where it cuts down the tree.
13:51 Mr_Pardison I'm trying to change it since the default key used is sneak and that is used for other stuff.
13:52 Mr_Pardison I have isolated the areas that I need to change to lines 294-332
13:52 Mr_Pardison this is in the init.lua file.
13:54 Megaf cache and buffers are good IhrFussel
13:54 Megaf also, using swap is ok, it's just the kernel puting htere stuff that doesnt need to be in RAM
13:55 Mr_Pardison here is the code segment I'm talking about:
13:55 Mr_Pardison https://thepasteb.in/p/Q1hBPVk9lMzi8
13:55 Megaf IhrFussel:
13:55 Megaf total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
13:55 Megaf Mem:           3936         787        1443          39        1706        3052
13:55 Megaf Swap:         10238           0       10238
13:56 ThomasMonroe o/ Mr_Pardison, Megaf
13:56 Megaf Greetings ThomasMonroe :)
13:56 Mr_Pardison \o ThomasMonroe
13:56 ThomasMonroe how are you two doing?
13:56 IhrFussel Megaf, swap is a few MB and I wonder what exactly is in there
13:56 IhrFussel I mean swap in use
13:57 Mr_Pardison rather well and happy that I got accepted into a college that I applied to. Puzzling over how to change the activation key for the woodcutter mod.
13:58 ThomasMonroe :) thats good, and good luck XD
13:58 Megaf Thomas-S: SHould I worry about this?
13:58 Megaf <ERROR> 2018-01-08 07:20:30: [Server] Item "streets:rw_asphalt_solid" not
13:58 Megaf defined at position (-381,8,486)
14:00 Thomas-S As long as you don't have the streets_compatibility mod installed, there will be lots of similiar error messages. There is no need for worry, it's simply an unkown node.
14:00 IhrFussel Is that an unknown node? I think the position has been added to those (not sure if that got backported to 0.4.17 though)
14:01 IhrFussel Here is my swap line of free -m: Swap:          3899           4        3895 ... so why exactly is it using 4 MB swap when there is 10 GB memory available?
14:01 Megaf IhrFussel: I explained that already
14:02 IhrFussel So it's likely just kernel functions?
14:02 Megaf just stuff that dont need to be in RAM
14:03 Megaf total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
14:03 Megaf Mem:           3685        1547          43          22        2095        2063
14:03 Megaf Swap:             0           0           0
14:03 Megaf my laptop ^
14:07 IhrFussel But your laptop also doesn't use swap and my PC (Ubuntu) doesn't either right now ... a bit confusing
14:07 Megaf I dont have swap
14:08 IhrFussel Oh yeah right... well I'll see how it behaves after rebooting (set swappiness to 10)
14:12 Megaf Yep, I can't play Minetest anymore
14:13 Megaf it just hangs my whole system and I have to hard reset
14:13 Megaf since 0.4.16
14:14 Mr_Pardison RIP
14:14 Megaf 4GB of RAM is nowhere enough to run Minetest
14:15 Mr_Pardison that's enough for me with only MTG running on Fedora.
14:16 Megaf see your memory use when you connect to my server
14:16 Megaf !server Megaf
14:16 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server V4.17 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 1/10, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.17-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 12ms
14:17 IhrFussel It depends on what your server loads...a simple client with no mods just MTG should max require 50 MB RAM ... a lightweight server maybe 200, a more heavy one (like mine) 700-800 MB ... do you use LOTS of nodes on your server? Mine has 1,700 nodes
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14:56 Megaf I got a number of people trying to conenct to my server, 2/3 of them failed
14:56 Megaf they joined and crashed
14:56 Megaf when I finally manage to sort my server I fuck the clients
15:01 Megaf I just got a billion of lines like
15:01 Megaf 2018-01-08 12:59:05: WARNING[Main]: Map::getNodeMetadata(): Block not found
15:01 Megaf 2018-01-08 12:59:05: WARNING[Main]: Map::removeNodeMetadata(): Block not found
15:01 Megaf how bad is that?
15:08 shivajiva lol what was that?
15:08 Megaf server seg faulted
15:09 Megaf when placing nixie tubes
15:09 shivajiva eww
15:09 Megaf mesecons is one of the biggest server crashers
15:09 Megaf not as bad as pipeworks tho
15:10 Megaf shivajiva: http://paste.debian.net/plain/1004033
15:10 shivajiva yup, I ran it on skyblocks for a few days and had nothing but crashes from player devices
15:11 shivajiva huh all those tubes were placed in the same location
15:11 Megaf shivajiva: I place one at that location...
15:12 shivajiva why ~40 log events for the same tube
15:17 Megaf shivajiva: because Minetest
15:17 Megaf that's just the last lines...
15:17 Megaf ugly mesecons bug https://github.com/minetes​t-mods/mesecons/issues/396
15:17 Megaf !title
15:17 MinetestBot Megaf: decatron nixies crash server on place. · Issue #396 · minetest-mods/mesecons · GitHub
15:21 sfan5 looks like a faulty mod
15:21 sfan5 fyi nixie tubes are not part of mesecons
15:21 Megaf oh
15:21 Megaf no?
15:21 Megaf oh my
15:23 sfan5 https://github.com/minetest-mods/ni​xie_tubes/blob/master/init.lua#L201
15:24 shivajiva Vanessa made nixie_tubes didn't she
15:24 sfan5 i'm not sure what this is supposed to do, but it's rotating itself causing after_place_node to be called again, causing it to rotate itself, [...]
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15:24 Megaf let me put the bug report in the right place
15:24 shivajiva good idea!
15:25 Megaf I wish I could remove issues on GitHub
15:25 Megaf https://github.com/minetest​-mods/nixie_tubes/issues/8
15:25 Megaf !title
15:25 MinetestBot Megaf: decatron nixies crash server on place. · Issue #8 · minetest-mods/nixie_tubes · GitHub
15:25 Megaf there
15:27 aerozoic Megaf, I've been getting a bunch of those errors to on my client when i connect to my server.
15:27 aerozoic I don't have anything fancy like mesecons either
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19:13 Megaf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM2s06vPMuY
19:13 Megaf !title
19:13 MinetestBot Megaf: Vonikk - Frenzy - YouTube
19:13 Megaf me gusta
19:16 Fixer fantastisch old meme, my friend
19:18 Fixer https://twitter.com/dephzon​/status/948926605979680769
19:19 * Megaf clicks
19:21 Fixer https://twitter.com/chanian​/status/949457156071288833
19:22 Megaf I gotta check that on my VPS,
19:23 Fixer wtf tramp related tweets on #meltdown
19:23 Fixer trump*
19:24 Megaf hold my beer, whitlisting my IP to login into my VPS control panel
19:24 rubenwardy default drop
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19:25 rubenwardy allow 127.0.0.1
19:25 rubenwardy done
19:28 Megaf https://i.imgur.com/6pmLydz.png
19:28 Megaf maybe they didnt patch it yet?
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19:28 Megaf Or they did at week 51
19:29 sfan5 the patch does not necessarily raise your cpu usage by a significant amount
19:29 sfan5 yes everyone has been saying this, but it's wrong
19:29 sfan5 source: https://twitter.com/ErrataRo​b/status/950179182209830912
19:30 Megaf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAtxYug0tXM
19:30 Megaf !title
19:30 MinetestBot Megaf: That Time an Olympic Rower Stopped to Let Some Ducks Swim By and Still Won the Gold Medal - YouTube
19:32 Megaf That guy
19:32 Megaf And he set a record
19:32 Mr_Pardison watching it now
19:32 Mr_Pardison don't spoil it.
19:32 Megaf ok
19:34 Megaf just amazing, going to my favourites playlsit
19:38 Fixer sfan5: people who has no raise will obviously not report
19:38 Fixer at least most of them
19:38 sfan5 true
19:42 * Megaf just reported no raise
19:42 Megaf Though my social media is IRC
19:50 Megaf I have no idea where I put my wallet, I and want o my an ice scream
19:50 Mr_Pardison and I have no idea what happened to your typing.
19:51 Megaf I want to by an*
19:51 Megaf my dyslexia is getting worse
19:51 Megaf or my keyboard cant handle my speed
19:52 Mr_Pardison I think it's the latter.
19:52 Mr_Pardison that happens with me as it can't handle such skil and speed.
19:52 Mr_Pardison *skill
19:53 Megaf yep, for sure is the keyboards fault
19:54 Megaf Now i cant find my credit card, I guess there will be no ice cream for me
19:58 Fixer maaaaaaaaake a mooooooooove
19:58 Fixer not 420 again...
19:58 Fixer once it starts...
19:58 * Mr_Pardison moves his king pawn to d4
20:04 Megaf Mr_Pardison: good man in that video isnt it?
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20:04 Mr_Pardison yup.
20:05 Megaf my ex would do even more stuff, she would block the other athletes to save the ducklings
20:05 Megaf my ex is the best person ever
20:16 IhrFussel What did I miss? xP
20:17 IhrFussel *too lazy to read the logs now* x.x
20:17 Mr_Pardison Megaf can't find his wallet and his keyboard can't handle the speed at which he types.
20:20 Fixer IhrFussel: this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLnLGP4YcJg
20:27 Megaf !title
20:27 MinetestBot Megaf: Fix off-by-one in log output line length by pgimeno · Pull Request #6896 · minetest/minetest · GitHub
20:27 rubenwardy lol
20:27 rubenwardy that's a MTB bug
20:27 rubenwardy !title is channel agnostic
20:27 MinetestBot That's not a valid URL
20:27 Megaf MinetestBot: you drunk mate
20:27 rubenwardy hehe
20:28 rubenwardy so posts the wrong link if a link was posted in another channel
20:28 * Mr-Pardison observes MinetestBot to see how it acts while drunk
20:28 Megaf !title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLnLGP4YcJg
20:28 MinetestBot Megaf: SYLLABUS - Is This INTERNET CLUB? - YouTube
20:28 sfan5 the last observed url variable happens to be global
20:28 Megaf Fixer: that's old
20:29 Fixer Megaf: it is like 3 years old
20:31 Megaf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpTwsJaLvA4
20:31 Megaf mind blow
20:31 Megaf !title
20:31 MinetestBot Megaf: The Physics of The Flash’s Infinite Mass Punch! (Because Science w/ Kyle Hill) - YouTube
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20:36 Megaf :D
20:36 Megaf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6IZZvR60Vs
20:36 Megaf !title
20:36 MinetestBot Megaf: Would Dragon Ball Z Gravity Training Kill You? (Because Science w/ Kyle Hill) - YouTube
20:48 Fixer so quite
20:50 IhrFussel Nobody replied to https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=6&amp;t=19310 yet ... it's pretty critical
20:50 Fixer https://twitter.com/apolloFE​R/status/949778078775029760
20:51 IhrFussel That function indeed seems to allow breaking even nodes that are supposed to be unbreakable by definition
20:51 IhrFussel Or condition*
20:51 rubenwardy I had this issue on CTF
20:51 Shara Have seen the issue before
20:52 Shara Problem is, you'd have falling nodes float on top of things you can't usually build on top of otherwise.
20:52 Shara Which is also kind of bad
20:52 Shara I actually had issues with my handholds mod because of this and had to work out a way around it
20:52 rubenwardy replied
20:53 IhrFussel But why does the "hit" node have to drop itself?
20:53 Shara What else should happen to it?
20:53 sfan5 IhrFussel: probably because it's not on the bugtracker
20:53 sfan5 if they believe this to be a fairly important issue they should make sure the devs see it
20:53 rubenwardy swear I made an issue about this
20:53 Shara Either the existing node is replaced (so it's dropped or lost) or you let falling nodes float magically on top of things you can't usually build on
20:54 Shara I never made an issue because I can't see a good solution
20:54 rubenwardy #4781
20:54 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4781 -- Falling nodes can be used to break protected blocks.
20:54 rubenwardy part of the problem
20:55 IhrFussel Respecting certain node grups sounds very good
20:55 IhrFussel groups*
20:55 Shara Have the falling node cease to exist if the node it would occupy is protected and not air?
20:55 rubenwardy maybe drop as item?
20:55 Shara Hmm, maybe
20:56 rubenwardy can a player make nodes in a protected area start falling?
20:56 rubenwardy yes actually, if they dig beneath
20:56 Shara I've only ever seen it used to grief twice in over two years on RC either way
20:58 Shara But maybe the falling node dropping as an item would be best if the landing place is protected
20:58 IhrFussel sfan5, that's why I posted it here...to inform you about its existence since I'm not the author
20:58 Shara Ugh, now I am tempted to stare at the code
20:58 rubenwardy yay
20:58 rubenwardy Shara offered to fix it!
20:59 sfan5 nice
20:59 Shara Lol
20:59 Shara Yay, sfan5 thinks me coding is nice!
20:59 sfan5 if you fix the issue and don't break anything else in the process, I don't see why not
21:00 Shara Since falling code appears to be in lua, I could at least give it a try.
21:00 IhrFussel Also how serious is this "cheat"? https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=6&amp;t=19351
21:00 Fixer Microsoft’s Spectre-fixer bricks some AMD PCs
21:00 Shara But if I need to compile anything I will sob and cry because windows
21:01 rubenwardy affects serverlist ranking, IhrFussel
21:01 Shara I really should teach myself to cross compile already
21:01 rubenwardy so not particularly serious
21:01 IhrFussel I know that but...bad enough to require fixing?
21:01 rubenwardy probably not
21:02 IhrFussel The user also questions the existence of that bonus for older servers while I see a good reason (so that old servers are never THAT forgotten on the list)
21:02 Shara "...why giving a bonus for a old server?" Because old servers proved they actually last some time
21:02 rubenwardy ^
21:02 Fixer "high quality players"
21:02 Shara It's so annoying to join a server, build something.. come back next day and no more server
21:03 * Shara should probably post that there not here
21:03 IhrFussel Many just do something before thinking about it... on one day they want to offer a server, the next day they regret their decision and shut it down
21:04 IhrFussel Mostly when they realize what kind of work it takes to maintain a good server
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21:06 Shara Replied anyway
21:07 IhrFussel I mean there are a few good reasons to shut a server down (no money, job too hard, illness, losing interest and maybe more)
21:07 Shara Well, it's also fine to shut it down because you don't feel like it anymore, but of course it isn't so great for players
21:07 Megaf Shara: well said in the server age topic
21:08 Shara Hi Megaf
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21:08 IhrFussel Shara, "be" missing xP
21:08 Megaf Speaking of that, I still ahve to adjust my servers age. it's not really accurate yet
21:08 Megaf I think I'm off by almost one year
21:08 Shara Fussel, fixed thanks
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21:10 Shara I posted on the forum two days in a row. What's happening?
21:10 rubenwardy woah :O
21:10 IhrFussel I don't think servers get many bonus points for being old ... AFAIK the max is 4 points @ 8 months
21:10 rubenwardy yeah, it's capped
21:10 * Megaf pours a glass of red wine to go with this bread with butter
21:11 Megaf while watching BBCs Planet Earth II
21:11 * Mr_Pardison hands Megaf a jar of jam
21:11 Mr_Pardison ooohhh.... I really want to watch that.
21:11 Shara Anyway, rubenwardy / sfan5: would dropping the falling node as an item if it lands somewhere protected be a solution you'd support?
21:12 Megaf Mr_Pardison: wathing the first episode now, just amazing
21:12 sfan5 Shara: it sucks if a player lets stuff fall in his own protected area but sure
21:13 Shara obviously if it's your own area you should be able to drop it as a node
21:13 Mr_Pardison griefers are the problem with that.
21:13 Shara though then you get weird inconsistent behavior depending on who owns an area... but that could be okay for this perhaps?
21:13 Shara Mr P, yea, a way to counter using falling nodes to grief from above an area is what we're talking about ;)
21:14 Mr_Pardison I can definitely get behind that.
21:17 IhrFussel There is still the general problem that you can make any node drop by letting a falling one fall on it ... that's what made my player light nodes drop before I changed them to invisible light sources
21:18 IhrFussel That problem isn't just in protected areas... players can obtain nodes they shouldn't get normally
21:18 Shara Make 'any' node drop?
21:18 Shara How?
21:19 IhrFussel If you let a san node fall on any other node (that's not buildable_to AFAIK) the hit node will drop
21:19 IhrFussel sand*
21:20 IhrFussel Let me recheck
21:21 IhrFussel Okay...seems like the falling node needs to be a certain one (didn't work with sand)
21:21 Shara Ys, so not any node. That soundsed kind of weird :P
21:22 rubenwardy you can use that exploit on ctf flags, btw
21:22 rubenwardy as I posted in the topic
21:22 Mr_Pardison Shara seems to be having the same problem that Megaf and I were having earlier.
21:23 Shara ?
21:23 Mr_Pardison your keyboard cannot handle the speed at which you type.
21:23 Fixer i remember snow falling on protected areas destroying some stuff like rails, that is quite old unaddressed problem
21:23 Shara Oh, it just can't handle the cat on it
21:24 * Mr_Pardison hopes that cat is a Scottish Fold
21:24 IhrFussel rubenwardy, do you know by any chance which nodes work for the dropping? I tried steelblock, meselamp and water sources so far
21:24 Shara No. She's probably part rex though.
21:25 rubenwardy ?
21:25 rubenwardy they need to be walkable = false
21:25 rubenwardy so try ladders, plants, torches, etc
21:28 IhrFussel Yep works with any rail
21:29 IhrFussel Maybe we could make it so that if the hit node is walkable = false then drop the falling one instead?
21:30 rubenwardy it shouldn't destroy the node if it's not diggable
21:30 rubenwardy so it should check that it has at least one digging group
21:30 IhrFussel But there is the group unbreakable too
21:35 Megaf falling nodes shouldnt destroy nodes, period
21:37 IhrFussel I think in most cases it would really make more sense to let the falling node drop instead of the hit one ... sounds more logical to me
21:38 Megaf or just let the falling node stay on top of the node it has fallen on
21:39 Megaf as it was placed there
21:39 IhrFussel Megaf, that already happens but isn't possible when the hit node is walkable
21:39 Megaf I think this was the olde bahviour
21:39 Fixer they do
21:39 Megaf from my feet to my head
21:40 Megaf all red
21:40 Fixer it is especially problematic for protector_redo
21:41 Megaf Im not even mad, it was amazing
21:41 Fixer your skin will pile off
21:41 Megaf likely
21:41 IhrFussel Any node with walkable = true (rails, ladders, torches etc) can be dropped when you let a falling node fall on it which is a very good way of griefing but enables more than that (obtain unbreakable nodes you should never get in the game)
21:42 Fixer i hate sunburns
21:42 Megaf ok, server has been running great on my new dedicated, time to wipe it off from my VPS
21:42 Fixer they also are quite nasty, even if you are in the shadow near the water
21:42 Megaf Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
21:42 Megaf /dev/sda         20G   13G  6.1G  69% /
21:42 Megaf before wipe &
21:42 * Mr-Pardison hands Megaf a shammy
21:43 Megaf Destroying container private area: /vz/private/102
21:43 Megaf Container private area was destroyed
21:43 Megaf oh boy
21:43 Megaf it's gone
21:43 Megaf Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
21:43 Megaf /dev/sda         20G  6.7G   13G  36% /
21:43 Megaf so much available space now
21:45 Fixer NOBODY HERE
21:45 Fixer Megaf: do meltdown tests
21:45 Fixer Megaf: on minetest
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21:45 Megaf nah
21:45 Megaf I'm on holidays now
21:45 * Fixer slaps Megaf with very large fish on holiday
21:45 Megaf and when they end, I have plans already
21:46 Megaf will work on a new photoshoot
21:46 Megaf maybe it will be called, "Colours You Don't See"
21:46 Fixer infra red?
21:47 Mr-Pardison microwave?
21:51 Fixer fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
21:51 Fixer or not
21:52 Fixer pc will probably lock up during compile
21:52 Mr-Pardison RIP
21:52 Fixer it is fine
21:52 Megaf Done, requested downsizing of my Linode
21:52 Megaf to the 5 USD plan, Linode 1GB
21:52 Megaf and back to 20 GB of SSD
21:53 sofar 5$ per?
21:53 Megaf sofar: 1 Xeon core, 1 GB for RAM, 20 SSD
21:53 sofar $time_unit
21:53 Megaf https://www.linode.com/pricing
21:53 sofar so, hour?
21:53 rubenwardy month
21:54 Megaf 20 GB SSD*
21:54 Fixer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltncQ0t8I6A found it, happy procrastination
21:54 Megaf in my dedi, I miss my 1 gbps Linode upload speed
21:54 Megaf and 40 gbps download speed
21:54 Megaf !title
21:54 MinetestBot Megaf: Oneohtrix Point Never - Nobody Here [10:00:00 Edition] - YouTube
21:55 IhrFussel I can really just recommend my new hoster netcup...I have a great server performance for $15/month
21:56 Fixer minetest ASIO went into hibernation it seems
21:56 Megaf I like the idea of having a dedicated IhrFussel
21:56 Megaf oh boy, I'm not going to the sun tomorrow
21:57 Fixer he is quite dedicated
21:57 Megaf maybe I go to the sun today
21:57 rubenwardy I'm enjoying kimsufi, although its file I/O isn't great
21:57 rubenwardy as it is HDD
21:57 IhrFussel My server is pretty much "dedicated" ... I have guaranteed cores and have yet to complain about someone who stole my CPU time
21:57 rubenwardy not SSD or RAID
21:58 Megaf rubenwardy: they should do collocation
21:58 Fixer rubenwardy: you can put database to RAMdisk
21:58 Megaf A Raspberry Pi 3 would be more powerful than my current Atom there, and it'd use way less energy
21:59 rubenwardy ah, *colocation
21:59 rubenwardy was wondering what you meant
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22:05 IhrFussel Look at those values, not comparable to the 222-secs lag VPS or my old dedi https://pastebin.com/A54fW43e ... those are just the non-perfect minutes
22:05 Megaf I had 8 seconds lag today
22:05 Megaf but it was likely becausae of logic gates
22:07 sofar I wonder how much AWS hosting of a MT server would actually cost after the free trial ends
22:07 Megaf Closing IRC so I can play Minetest. Yest, Minetest does takes that much RAM. Cya guys,
22:07 sofar looks like 8$ a month if you burn 100% cpu
22:07 Megaf !server Megaf
22:07 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server V4.17 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/10, 0/4 | Version: 0.4.17-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 12ms
22:09 paramat use less intensive mods
22:14 paramat so it's likely not MT's fault
22:15 Mr-Pardison will be leaving soon.
22:15 Mr-Pardison cya tomorrow peeps.
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