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01:02 Roger9 https://screenshots.firefox.com/​IccjjUYCJohEhE0m/www.mozilla.org proof I'm from the future :P
01:13 Calinou wow, are you running Arch Linux with the testing repos enabled?
01:13 Calinou or perhaps Fedora Rawhide?
01:13 Calinou how are you so up-to-date? :'(
01:32 Shara ight cause people to dislike me a bit
01:32 Shara eww.. what?
01:33 Shara Someone  is spamming my client and it made a message jump here. Time to ignore some people it seems.
01:35 benrob0329 Dungeons now give some low tier equipment now, right?
01:36 Shara Chests with stuff in them I think
01:36 Shara I found the contents kind of weird though
01:36 benrob0329 but nothing super rare, iron pickaxes and diamonds, right?
01:37 Shara I think there was one diamond item, but that the chance was tiny
01:37 benrob0329 thanks, making that lore Issue for MTG
01:37 Shara It really looked like in most cases the chest itself would be the most valuable thing
01:38 sofar if it can be used by mods to insert items then that would be nice
01:39 Shara Not sure if it can be or not. I never had time to check it too closely
01:39 sofar e.g. crops can use it to get rare seeds to the player
01:39 Shara WIll be good if so though
01:41 paramat there's an API for defining what's in the chests
01:41 Shara Awesome then. That might be fun to play with at some point
01:42 paramat also what's in there by default may possibly need tuning
01:43 Shara I remember I found the default items kind of silly, but it is nice to just have anything like that at all
01:44 Shara I'd just say remove the wooden sword (or whatever the wooden item was), because the odds of someone needing wooden tools once they find dungeons are low
01:44 Shara It ends up being a thing to pick up and delete just so you can take the chest :D
01:45 Shara (and this guy is really determined to spam me for some reason :( )
01:51 sofar ask a freenode ops?
01:53 Shara Just banned him on one channel, so maybe that shuts him up
01:58 Shara Yay, seems to have done the job.
02:00 paramat the rather 'random' items in the chest are intentional, seems more 'realistic' than only putting what is useful for a player
02:00 paramat hence string hehe
02:09 shivajiva https://github.com/minetest-tec​hnic/unified_inventory/pull/104
02:10 Megaf shivajiva: Thanks for that
02:10 Megaf The scary bit is, maybe there is a reason
02:12 shivajiva nope I checked it, it really doesn't need to be in the loop, these are filtered items for the player who's privs don't change whilst the list is building
02:13 Megaf Do you expect much performance gains from this change?
02:13 Megaf Don't get me wrong, I'm already very happy that you found that
02:13 Megaf I'm a sucker for cleaner/smaller code
02:14 shivajiva about 900 less checks on the player when logging in :)
02:14 shivajiva depends on the size of the inventory obv
02:15 shivajiva feel free to verify it with a print statement or a counter
02:16 Megaf I'm totally away from Minetest for the foreseeable future :)
02:16 shivajiva :(
02:18 Megaf Unless something big and good happens in Minetest, like I getting elected to be head of somethingh
02:18 Megaf xP
02:19 shivajiva Chief Roarer do you?
02:19 shivajiva obv not ;)
02:21 shivajiva btw the pr doesn't remove the check it localises the result and uses it for the loop
02:23 Megaf Chief Roarer, hah
02:33 shivajiva I'm out for some zzz's, keep the faith Megaf, nothing lasts but nothing is lost ;)
02:34 Shara Chief Roarer sounds good
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03:16 benrob0329 https://github.com/minetest​/minetest_game/issues/1949
03:16 benrob0329 Shara, paramat ^
03:56 paramat ok
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09:06 tenplus1 hi folks
09:09 shivajiva hi tenplus
09:09 tenplus1 hi shiva, how's things ?
09:10 shivajiva good, found the priv call in UI inside a loop so every item forces a priv check
09:11 tenplus1 sweet, cant wait to see your stats when it's been fiddled with :)))
09:11 tenplus1 40 million checks down to 3 and a half :DDDD
09:12 shivajiva reduces it to 11 priv checks once you localise the check outside the loop
09:12 tenplus1 nicely done dude :P
09:12 tenplus1 did you add pull ?
09:12 shivajiva pr done, just waiting for someone to notice ;)
09:12 tenplus1 checking now
09:13 tenplus1 ? is it in mt or mt-game? cant see pull
09:15 shivajiva no it's in UI
09:16 shivajiva the flaw is with Unified Inventory
09:16 tenplus1 ohhhhhhh, thought it was with the game ui... aha, my bad :PPPP
09:17 shivajiva :)
09:17 shivajiva I know it's not your favourite flavour of inventory
09:17 shivajiva but it's nice on creative servers
09:17 tenplus1 ui is ok, just a tad heavy :)  prefer inv+ or sfinv
09:18 shivajiva well it just got a tad lighter
09:18 tenplus1 yaay
09:19 shivajiva each call to minetest.get_player_privs results in a further call to the auth handler so we save 2 hits per item
09:19 tenplus1 wowser, that many...  jsut as well you noticed that one dude
09:20 shivajiva sauth has opened the door on auth handling for me
09:20 tenplus1 it's your calling :D
09:21 tenplus1 it's always fun to inspect code and try to make it better  :D
09:21 shivajiva I can see what each mod calls and how many times with just a few print statements so it got easy detect
09:21 shivajiva *to
09:22 tenplus1 print() is so handy
09:22 shivajiva most mods check privs somewhere along the line
09:23 tenplus1 I think this rendition of minetest is having important vars cached for use... many mods doing it already, especiallt creative :D
09:24 shivajiva I was tempted to add caching to UI for privs to speed it up further
09:25 tenplus1 every little helps
09:25 shivajiva we have the button checks and page checks resulting in 8 calls for each page
09:26 shivajiva but I'd need to hold the full priv table for a player
09:27 shivajiva guess that's not really an issue with 40 players
09:27 tenplus1 yeah, 40 player table is fine
09:28 tenplus1 and on leave it can be cleared
09:28 shivajiva don't get me wrong it's cached in sauth so there is little overhead other than 2 calls to return the data
09:30 shivajiva that's why I didn't bother, don't like making copies everywhere
09:30 shivajiva with default auth that just means a larger table in mem to search
09:31 tenplus1 would be handy if on player join it copies necessary info into a table for use with mods, and on leave it clears table
09:32 shivajiva yes that would unload the auth handler but then you have to update 2 locations for priv changes
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09:50 tenplus1 hi nrz
10:10 nerzhul hi tenplus1
10:11 tenplus1 o/
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11:06 tenplus1 hi sniper
11:09 sniper570 tenplus1: Yo! ಠ‿↼
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11:32 tenplus1 hi lisac
11:33 lisac hey tenplus1
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11:45 tenplus1 brb
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12:32 Raven262 Hi tenplus1
12:32 tenplus1 o/ raven...  *buurp*... ehe, just finished carbonara
12:32 tenplus1 how's things ?   hi fixer
12:33 Raven262 Its all.. nice :)
12:33 tenplus1 ehe
12:33 Wayward_One hi all :)
12:33 tenplus1 hi wayward :P
12:33 Raven262 Hi Wayward_One
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12:36 tenplus1 hi Jordach
12:46 jas_ hi tenplus1
12:46 tenplus1 hey jas
12:46 tenplus1 whas new?
12:46 jas_ oh nothing, gonna make some new coffee
12:46 jas_ what up with you?
12:46 tenplus1 heh same, already got coffe tho :P mmmm
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13:08 tenplus1 hi Aerozoic
13:09 Aerozoic hey what's happenin
13:09 tenplus1 coffee time :P no biccies tho
13:09 Aerozoic ah ur makin me google first thing in the morning, lol :P
13:10 tenplus1 biccies = biscuits = cookies
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13:10 tenplus1 wb raven
13:10 Raven262 thx ten
13:10 Aerozoic ah ok
13:12 tenplus1 lisac came up with a good idea for creative inventory, am tinkering with that to see how it would work :D
13:13 Aerozoic I'm gonna install xubuntu in a few minutes.
13:13 tenplus1 w00t!, which version ? 17.10 ?
13:13 Aerozoic um, i gotta check, lol. It's been a few days since the download
13:14 tenplus1 ehe
13:14 lisac lol
13:14 lisac I'm playing DOTA right now with Raven262
13:14 lisac I'll assist in a few minutes. :P
13:14 Aerozoic hmm, the download i got says 16.04.3
13:14 tenplus1 hehe, is ok dude, enjoy the game :)
13:14 tenplus1 am tinkering mostly, nothing working :P
13:15 Aerozoic Did i get the wrong one? lol
13:15 tenplus1 16.04.3 is a good LTS release, got a few years support left on that one yet...  but if you want newer kernel and software I'd go for 17.10...
13:15 tenplus1 what kinda machine is it going on ?
13:16 Aerozoic hmm, i was in kinda a hurry when i downloaded, must've hit the wrong one then.
13:16 Aerozoic intel i5, integrated graphics, 8gb ram.
13:17 tenplus1 definitely 17.10 in that case, a lot of work has been done to Intel gfx and will run smoother
13:17 tenplus1 https://xubuntu.org/release/17-10/
13:18 Aerozoic so the download page says 16.04 is the latest lts, so that's why i clicked it.
13:18 tenplus1 LTS is a great long term support Os for machines that MUST be stable, like production and office based setups
13:19 Aerozoic oh that's good info about the gfx, i never would've known.
13:19 tenplus1 if it's your personal Pc then the latest is all good, and I'm using it as well as Xanadu server and it's stable as can be :P
13:19 Fixer hi
13:20 Aerozoic I'm not a linux guru though. I'm not good enough yet to fix stuff that breaks.
13:20 Aerozoic wazup Fixer
13:20 tenplus1 what you gonna be using the machine for you're installing it on ?
13:21 Aerozoic personal daily use
13:21 tenplus1 browsing, movies, downloads, editing, games ?
13:21 Aerozoic yep
13:21 tenplus1 17.10
13:21 tenplus1 defo
13:22 Aerozoic So what does that actually mean then? "9 months support"
13:23 Aerozoic They only push updates for 9 months?
13:24 tenplus1 9 months but you get newer drivers, newer kernel, latest software available in repo's, and after 9 months you get the option to update to 18.04 which will be the new LTS
13:26 tenplus1 having the latest mesa/opengl/nvidia/ati/intel gfx helps a lot when it comes to daily use...  I get more FPS in 17.10 than I do in 16.04 and that's just minetest :P
13:26 tenplus1 no more tearing in movies or games also... it all helps
13:26 Aerozoic haha, i was blaming that junk on my pc
13:27 tenplus1 I'm using an old net-top pc... running intel atom 1.8ghz and nvidia ion gfx...  not the best platform but it flies with newer drivers :D
13:28 Fixer biccies = biscuits = cookies = bicycles
13:28 tenplus1 bicycles ????
13:28 Fixer bicycles are fun
13:28 Fixer before cookies though
13:28 tenplus1 lol
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13:34 tenplus1 ooh, linux kernel 4.15's new features look awesome
13:35 * Aerozoic will be heading out to find a good wifi soon XD
13:35 tenplus1 wifi adaptor or connection ?
13:36 Aerozoic my only internet is mobile hotspot
13:37 tenplus1 ohhhh, shame...  hope you find a good connection
13:37 tenplus1 brb
13:39 Aerozoic "migration of Xfce to GTK3"  WUT?  i like xfce
13:44 tenplus1 it handles it well, although I still prefer qt5
13:50 tenplus1 https://www.ebuyer.com/739141-lg-25um58-​25-ultrawide-ips-gaming-monitor-25um58-p ooooooh
13:52 Aerozoic ok does 17.10 use xfce?
13:52 tenplus1 yes
13:52 tenplus1 xubuntu = xfce desktop
13:53 Aerozoic ok XD
13:53 Aerozoic so if it's switching to gtk are they gonna call it gubuntu?
13:54 tenplus1 xfce uses gtk3 already :)
13:54 Aerozoic or maybe i just don't know wtf i'm talkin about
13:54 tenplus1 as does Ubuntu 17.10 since that uses gnome3
13:54 * Aerozoic = noob
13:54 tenplus1 Lubuntu uses LXDE which uses gtk, but...  Lubuntu-next uses LXQT which is qt5 based :D
13:54 Aerozoic gtk3 isn't a desktop, lol. I just now got that
13:55 tenplus1 gtk is an interface choice, buttons, windows, controls etc...  qt5 is a different choice
13:55 tenplus1 thats the best thing about linux, it's all made up of parts :)
13:55 tenplus1 you have the freedom to build your desktop the way you want it
13:56 Aerozoic :)
13:56 Aerozoic unless you use elementary OS
13:56 tenplus1 elementary uses gtk
13:56 tenplus1 but yeah, is kinda limited
13:56 Aerozoic but then again, that may just have been my ignorance. It wouldn't even let me put icons on desktop.
13:57 tenplus1 the most configurable desktop manager I've ever used was Enlightenment...  so many choices
13:57 Aerozoic I do think elementary OS is perfect for linux noobs who don't want to really learn about linux.
13:58 tenplus1 yeah, keep it simple, especially if you are moving from windows or mac
13:58 tenplus1 then again, even when I was on Windows many moons ago, I replaced explorer with bbLean (blackbox)
13:58 Aerozoic That's the OS i'll use if i ever convince somebody i know to switch :)
13:58 tenplus1 Ubuntu Mate is very easy to use...
13:59 tenplus1 based on the old gnome2 look which was simple and fast
13:59 * Wayward_One has Mint on his mom's computer
13:59 tenplus1 but xubuntu us faster
13:59 tenplus1 mint is really good :) clem has done amazing thigns tehre
13:59 Aerozoic mate has left a bad taste in my mouth.  I had been using Linux Mint Mate since last year and it suddenly quit working, which is why i'm not experimenting with new distros.
14:00 tenplus1 xfce is nice n simple at least :) less likely to break
14:00 Aerozoic which is why i'm NOW*
14:01 Wayward_One I've been using Mint Cinnamon for just about as long as i've had Linux
14:01 Wayward_One never had a problem (that wasn't my fault :P)
14:01 tenplus1 cinnamon is very nice and pleasing to the eyes, but heavy  for games
14:04 jas_ 2017-11-20 09:01:46: ACTION[Server]: Server: Player with the name "Maxi" tried to connect from 200.117.57.100 but it was disallowed for the following reason:
14:04 jas_ 2017-11-20 09:01:46: ACTION[Server]: Cannot create new player called 'Maxi'. Another account called 'maxi' is already registered. Please check the spelling if it's your account or use a different nickname.
14:04 jas_ maxi no
14:04 jas_ !!
14:04 jas_ oops sorry
14:04 tenplus1 lol
14:05 jas_ i saw something happened and thought it'd crashed
14:05 jas_ that's the first time i've seen that message
14:07 tenplus1 http://lolsnaps.com/funny/2707615 lol, wonder why we dont have shows like this in UK... I'd watch it :P
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14:08 tenplus1 hi caleb
14:09 CalebDavis hi ten
14:09 tenplus1 :P
14:10 Aerozoic Why is the iso labbled "amd64.iso"?  Intel makes 64 bit processors too
14:10 tenplus1 amd were the first to introduce 64-bit processors to the market so in honor of them it's called amd64 :)
14:10 tenplus1 but it works on intel cpu's also :D
14:11 Aerozoic ok, i'm not a fan if intel btw
14:11 Donbatman All Hail AMD
14:11 tenplus1 ehehe, hi Don :P
14:11 Donbatman Hi
14:13 tenplus1 what desktop you running Don ?
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14:15 tenplus1 hi thomas
14:16 ThomasMonroe hi tenplus1
14:16 Donbatman I run Gnome
14:16 tenplus1 *shudder*
14:16 jas_ me2
14:16 tenplus1 ehehe
14:16 jas_ om my nicer lappy, slower one xfce
14:17 tenplus1 to me LXDE is fastest desktop, very lite on resources and games run 100%
14:17 Donbatman I use LXDE on my slow laptop
14:17 jas_ no window manager at all is best
14:17 jas_ or just openbox without lxde
14:17 jas_ for games, i mean
14:17 tenplus1 heh, true, but I like the panel :D
14:18 ThomasMonroe Openbox is pretty fast, and you can use just about any panel with it
14:19 jas_ https://i.imgur.com/AR1f2fq.png
14:19 tenplus1 lxpanel is nice :D
14:19 jas_ alt-f11 is fullscreen
14:19 tenplus1 my current desky: https://imgur.com/a/mnUg1
14:19 jas_ gotta set that in gnome shortcuts
14:19 jas_ haha
14:20 jas_ i thought it was something else at first
14:20 jas_ nice one
14:21 tenplus1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPmF_2etYrA lololol
14:25 Fixer Quassel 9 years old bug "DCC chat and file transfers are not yet supported."
14:26 Jordach >DCC
14:26 Jordach >2017
14:26 tenplus1 hexchat is pretty good for that, although I still use Pidgin for irc
14:27 Fixer hexchat crashes on windows on net disconnected, bug reported for years, nobody fixed it
14:27 tenplus1 surprised at that
14:29 benrob0329 jas_: a tiling WM is even better :P
14:29 jas_ hm, i wonder if it's this bindable mouse button PR that makes crafting 10 at a time with middle button lag network
14:29 jas_ and go really slow.  when i dig full bones too, takes forever to fill can't be that hrm
14:29 jas_ tiling wm is nice, nice to have both
14:30 benrob0329 Fixer: Why use DCC when you can use Matrix :^)
14:31 tenplus1 wasnt jabber suppose to fix allt hat
14:32 benrob0329 tenplus1: yeah, but XMPP sucks
14:32 tenplus1 lololol
14:33 benrob0329 No good clients, XML, chats are centralized, everything is a complicated substandard and no two clients support the same things
14:33 tenplus1 too much chat separation... we need a network that does it all (if possible(
14:35 benrob0329 But just to top it all off, in order to support VoIP on XMPP, you have to use Google's library or write your own
14:35 benrob0329 tenplus1: I'm connected to IRC through matrix
14:36 tenplus1 pidgin doesnt suport it so I dont use it
14:37 Fixer it went worse
14:37 Fixer remember we had icq and skype at most?
14:37 Fixer now it is shitton of crap that even requires your phone
14:38 benrob0329 tenplus1: thats like saying the Skype client doesn't support IRC, so I won't use IRC
14:38 tenplus1 WhatsApp is slowly getting better and once that's on dekstop I have a feeling many ppl will be using it
14:38 tenplus1 lol...  I use Pidgin for my chat needs and it has a plugin for google and irc, so I use those...
14:39 benrob0329 Matrix acts like Pidgin in that it bridges a lot of chat systems
14:39 tenplus1 what's the linux client called for that /
14:39 benrob0329 But, there is a pidgin plugin
14:39 tenplus1 ooh, checking
14:40 benrob0329 As of rich now, Riot is the best client (most mature, most features supported)
14:41 benrob0329 But there are other clients with varying maturity
14:42 benrob0329 If you use other clients, you will miss out on some features (at least until they're supported)
14:43 benrob0329 tenplus1: https://github.com/matrix-org/purple-matrix/
14:44 tenplus1 am looking at that in repo just now :D
14:44 tenplus1 eheheh
14:45 benrob0329 Unfortunately its early alpha at best
14:45 tenplus1 irc does what I need for now, so until I feel the need to connect to matrix I'll wait until beta
14:46 benrob0329 *sigh* very well
14:46 tenplus1 lol
14:46 tenplus1 what do you use it for mostly ?
14:47 Fixer "This project is somewhat alpha, and only basic functionality has been implemented"
14:47 benrob0329 https://www.xkcd.com/1782/
14:48 tenplus1 hehehe nice one
14:48 benrob0329 tenplus1: General chat, connecting to IRC, occasionaly voip
14:49 benrob0329 I'm an admin in a few room in Matrix land :P
14:49 benrob0329 Our Minetest room needs more love :-(
14:50 benrob0329 Oo, I could announce it on the forums!
14:51 ThomasMonroe matrix?
14:51 tenplus1 this room is more than enough for me :P
14:51 ThomasMonroe what's that?
14:51 benrob0329 ThomasMonroe: open source, decentralized, federated chat protocol
14:51 ThomasMonroe noice
14:52 ThomasMonroe so its peer-to-peer?
14:53 tenplus1 brb
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14:54 tenplus1 back... plugin installed
14:55 benrob0329 ThomasMonroe: its server based, but rooms are synced between servers so they still exist if one goes down
14:55 tenplus1 do I need to register nick on browser first benrob ?
14:55 benrob0329 tenplus1: you'll need an account
14:56 benrob0329 Probably will have to use riot for some stuff (like registering)
14:56 tenplus1 so I cant do it on line ? I need to install specific chat prog ?
14:56 benrob0329 https://riot.im/app
14:56 benrob0329 Yes, riot is web based
14:57 benrob0329 You can auth via email or phone
14:58 tenplus1 gimmie one of your chat rooms to test
14:59 benrob0329 !CbWGSqXrUpGnRUglfe:matrix.org
14:59 benrob0329 I'd give you a nicer address but that plugin doesnt support aliases
14:59 tenplus1 it's ok... am using pidgin to connect
15:03 benrob0329 tenplus1: you could install riot on your phone, then catch up on irc without booting the computer :P
15:03 tenplus1 no thanks, lolol... I only chat to folk on my desktop... phone is for personal calls only
15:06 jas_ you can use weechat on your desktop and weechat relay client on your phone too
15:06 benrob0329 jas_: Ohh dear, I did that for a while
15:06 benrob0329 It worked...but it had issues
15:07 jas_ i don't check irc too often if i'm not at my computer anyway
15:07 red-001 I remeber trying it before and the client wasn't great
15:07 jas_ well you can make a weechat relay or an irc relay
15:07 jas_ and then use any irc client
15:07 jas_ but i use glowing bear app, or termux weechat
15:07 red-001 a lot of lag between sending the message and it being received
15:08 benrob0329 red-001: things have gotten better, its not perfect but it works
15:08 jas_ irc? matrix? middle clicking items?
15:08 sfan5 >use an irc <-> matrix relay to connect to matrix to use a matrix <-> irc relay to talk on IRC
15:08 tenplus1 hrm...
15:08 sfan5 next level
15:08 tenplus1 hi sfan
15:08 sfan5 hello
15:08 benrob0329 jas_: there is a weechat plugin :-)
15:08 benrob0329 Quite a few people use it iirc
15:09 jas_ no surprise.  i just get on irc to come here, tho heh
15:09 red-001 anyways I said I would implement server mod sending for csm and I got some down time
15:09 jas_ great
15:10 jas_ !
15:10 benrob0329 \>Matrix uses http + json
15:11 benrob0329 \>mintest lua api supports http and json
15:11 Fixer sfan5: under some ancient UNIX in few nested virtual machines
15:12 benrob0329 XKCDE
15:13 tenplus1 hrm, that one plugin uses 40mb just to run... eek
15:15 Fixer https://i2.wp.com/virtuallyfun.com/wordpress/wp-​content/uploads/2014/05/ircii-on-xenix.png?ssl=1
15:15 Fixer irc under xenix 2.3.4
15:16 benrob0329 Terminal > Emacs Terminal > Neovim terminal > Weechat (IRC) > Bridged Matrix Room > IRC Bridge > IRC Channel
15:16 benrob0329 Lag: OVER 9000
15:16 tenplus1 for matrix ?
15:18 benrob0329 For that setup, I don't think your messages would make the loop in any less than a minute
15:18 benrob0329 If you can even type
15:18 tenplus1 we need FAST connected chat, cause seconds count when talking to someone
15:19 Fixer https://github.com/minetest​/minetest_game/issues/1951 lol
15:20 benrob0329 tenplus1: Riot is fast when the server isn't overloaded, more people need to scoot to their own servers
15:20 red-001 benrob0329, whats the minetest room again?
15:20 benrob0329 Its getting better, Matrix has better funding now
15:21 benrob0329 #minetest-matrix:matrix.org
15:21 benrob0329 red-001: ^^
15:24 red-001 :( electron
15:24 benrob0329 red-001: I just use the web page, but you could use a native client
15:25 Fixer lol
15:25 tenplus1 I've been with irc since 1995
15:25 tenplus1 it's like a relative now :D
15:26 jas_ me2
15:26 Donbatman Everything is relative to where you are now
15:27 red-001 I was hoping that they wouldn't use username as a user uid
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15:29 tenplus1 wasnt there an irc chat prog at some time with a voice/video plugin that used irc server to connect 2 ppl directly for video chat /
15:30 benrob0329 red-001: display names are separate
15:31 benrob0329 tenplus1:  using DCC is apparently very insecure
15:32 tenplus1 which is why you only accept files from users you know and trust
15:33 benrob0329 Matrix doesn't have that problem :P
15:34 sfan5 dcc has been broken since the invention of NAT
15:34 red-001 iirc it's not as much secure as it removes whatever peusdo-annoyimity a user with a cloak has
15:41 benrob0329 Oh shoot, just updated to Firefox 57 for Android
15:41 benrob0329 Its niice
15:42 * tenplus1 uses "Ghostery" for android...  built-in ad blocker
15:42 benrob0329 uBlock Origin works great :P
15:42 tenplus1 +100, I use that for ff and chromium on desky :D
15:43 benrob0329 Works great on mobile :D
15:44 tenplus1 how is it for memory usage ? my mobi only has 1gb
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15:57 benrob0329 tenplus1: I cant tell on Android very well
15:58 benrob0329 Avg is reported to be ~200 megs, but that might be with a lot of tabs open
15:58 benrob0329 I cant seem to get a current gate for it
15:58 benrob0329 *usage
15:59 tenplus1 cilck the [ ]  button and it shows apps running, at bottom it shows memory free
16:00 benrob0329 Oh, dirp
16:00 benrob0329 I feel like an idiot now XD
16:01 tenplus1 lol, took me a while to figure it out as well, dont worry :D
16:01 tenplus1 Ghostery browser uses built in android webengine, so should use less mem
16:01 Fixer i'm using firefox on android, because adblock
16:01 benrob0329 212 megs, which is a lot but this is Firefox we're talking about
16:04 benrob0329 tenplus1: ~350 megs with 10 github tabs open
16:04 tenplus1 not bad
16:13 tenplus1 k, ghostery with 10 github tabs open was 2.8mb
16:13 tenplus1 o.O  it cant be that low, surely
16:13 benrob0329 What the heck
16:14 benrob0329 WebView might not count towards application ram
16:14 tenplus1 the ram goes up for ghostery with each tab open, started with 268mb
16:14 tenplus1 2.68mb
16:15 benrob0329 I'm thinking web data adds to it, but rendering is considered part of system ui
16:17 tenplus1 maybe it flushes and only reloads current tab
16:17 benrob0329 tenplus1: https://github.com/minetest​/minetest_game/issues/1949
16:17 benrob0329 Comment?
16:19 tenplus1 added
16:20 benrob0329 I think a different story every time is too much for mtg
16:21 benrob0329 People dislike the idea of a backstory as it is
16:22 tenplus1 so long as we have a game to play, something to strive towards then we could all make up our own story as we go along
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16:24 tenplus1 hi Megaf
16:24 Megaf Hey tenplus1
16:24 benrob0329 Hi Megaf
16:25 Megaf Hey benrob0329
16:25 Megaf Hey all
16:45 ThomasMonroe hey Megaf
16:53 Donbatman This is neat. https://www.windows93.net
16:56 tenplus1 hah, that's funny
16:59 benrob0329 Donbatman: oh my gooooo...
17:00 Donbatman halflife never actually loads. it just keeps loading silly things
17:04 benrob0329 Cat Explorer should be an actual thing
17:05 tenplus1 http://lolsnaps.com/wp-content/uploads/201​7/11/bce60468e3e54c5792ce872ec677f171.jpg
17:06 Donbatman FINISH HER!
17:06 tenplus1 hehehehe
17:11 Donbatman This is royalty free images. Got to love FREE! https://pixabay.com/
17:12 tenplus1 wow, nice one Don
17:14 Megaf Donbatman, did you try acid?
17:15 Megaf I like Zkype
17:15 Donbatman Megaf I don't do drugs
17:15 Megaf Donbatman, its one of the apps in the link you posted ;)
17:15 Megaf it's in documents
17:15 Donbatman lol Megaf. I am trying now
17:15 sofar drug-or-windows93app.com
17:17 Megaf lol, Acid Box 93 with Acid running in the background
17:17 Megaf much lol
17:17 Megaf gotta put this in full screen
17:20 Donbatman Megaf I can't take this acid. I have the flu and it is making me feel worse
17:20 tenplus1 heh
17:22 tenplus1 hrm, acid box is knida lame... try watching Geiss plugin in Winamp while playing some techno
17:22 benrob0329 Donbatman: pixabay is da best for content creators
17:23 benrob0329 ProjectM with acid rock/techno cross while ON acid
17:24 tenplus1 ooh... +1
17:24 tenplus1 I may have done that
17:24 tenplus1 eheheh
17:25 benrob0329 "Winners Don't Do Drugs" unless your in Oregon
17:25 sofar I'm a loser then
17:25 tenplus1 hi sofar
17:25 sofar haven't done drugs since it was legal
17:25 sofar not about to start again anyway
17:26 tenplus1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92D__g-8Fv8
17:27 benrob0329 sofar: yeah sure.. its ok, we know why your always so calm in videos ;-)
17:27 sofar https://www.youtube.com/chan​nel/UCELt4nocnWDEnYJmov4zqyA <- much better
17:28 benrob0329 How its made is the best screensaver
17:28 tenplus1 lol
17:29 Donbatman Just say NO to drug! What... if you are talking to drugs it might be too late
17:29 tenplus1 :P
17:30 benrob0329 Heh
17:31 Donbatman Thanks for the link Sofar. I was wondering about my mascara :P
17:32 tenplus1 I do like the "how it's made" videos :D  quite interesting
17:32 benrob0329 https://youtu.be/L8iG9HqQD_c
17:33 benrob0329 "A hot iron" >is literally an iron strapped to a mount
17:33 Donbatman How it's made looks like a cool channel
17:33 tenplus1 check out the "Worth It!" videos by BuzzFeedVideo... those are pretty good
17:33 benrob0329 Donbatman: was a Science Channel Show
17:34 benrob0329 \>buzzfeed
17:42 benrob0329 I like how someone has already referenced the lore issue as an explanation for something :PP
17:44 tenplus1 oerkki and dm ?
17:44 tenplus1 or mese ?
17:48 benrob0329 The PR fir adding Black Tulips
17:48 tenplus1 ?
17:48 benrob0329 "Aren't those a myth? Maybe Orekkis cultivated them"
17:48 tenplus1 dont you already get black tulips irl ?
17:50 benrob0329 https://github.com/minetes​t/minetest_game/pull/1950
17:50 benrob0329 No, they patched that last week
17:50 jas_ basic pillar jump -> https://clips.twitch.tv/Lo​ngConcernedTermiteDAESuppy <-- weirdest url
17:53 Raven262 So nice to see #1949 being accepted.
17:53 Jordach :^)
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17:55 tenplus1 hi Krock
17:55 Donbatman Hi Krock
17:55 Raven262 Hi Krock
17:56 Krock wow shit
17:56 jas_ Using a fast tool to dig through protected area. https://clips.twitch.tv/AgitatedCogentCodVoteYea
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17:56 Krock hi Donbatman, tenplus1, Raven262
17:57 tenplus1 o/
17:57 benrob0329 Hi Krock
17:57 Krock these greetings came all together straight into my face
17:57 Raven262 Ah, the good old days of thieving. Nice that you reminded me of that, jas_
17:57 Krock hi benrob0329
17:57 jas_ i didn't realize there was a door
17:57 jas_ i was actually at it for longer than that clip
17:58 Raven262 That is generally a bad idea for the protection mod. PLayer should not be allowed to interact with the protected nodes at all.
18:00 jas_ i was pretty shocked the first time i saw it
18:00 jas_ player went thru like that only it was cobble and he had a wood pick
18:00 jas_ then dropped it to me
18:01 jas_ hahaha
18:01 Raven262 I have gathered so much loot on the servers this way.
18:02 Raven262 One can basically enter any building
18:02 Raven262 (this was looooong time ago)
18:03 Megaf well. Bye HHVM, hello Apache with PHP 7
18:04 sfan5 >apache
18:05 benrob0329 Nginx is where its at
18:05 Megaf sfan5, you mean you like apache or you hate apache?
18:05 sfan5 i am judging you for using it, so the latter
18:05 Megaf sfan5, you nginx fan too?
18:05 sfan5 yes
18:07 sofar I used to be an apache fan, but then I took an arrow to the knee
18:08 benrob0329 Now you're a blow-dryer?
18:09 Megaf well, things are running so much better now with Apache
18:09 benrob0329 that's good
18:09 benrob0329 Now imagine that, but without a giant config file that takes an hour to read
18:10 Megaf My config file is 3 lines long
18:10 sofar I wouldn't ever setup another apache unless i really had to
18:11 sofar too many bad memories :)
18:11 Megaf I literally just installed apache, changed 3 lines and got my website back online
18:11 benrob0329 Megaf: your distro must not do the "ship every possible option in the default config" anymore
18:11 ThomasMonroe how's your server coming along Megaf?
18:11 Megaf apt-get install php7.0 php6-mysql-mod to install everything I needed and done
18:11 tenplus1 brb
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18:12 Megaf ThomasMonroe, as in Minetest Server?
18:12 ThomasMonroe yes
18:12 Megaf man, I'm so unhappy and frustrated with Minetest, you have no idea
18:12 Megaf I will just leave my server down for the near future
18:12 ThomasMonroe lol I can imagine
18:12 Megaf the transition from 0.4.14 to 0.4.16 has been going such a pain in the neck
18:12 Megaf it breaks everything
18:13 Megaf and mods fill the screen with error messages at light speed
18:13 ThomasMonroe we encountered that with MM-Survival
18:13 benrob0329 My servers never last long enough to go through more than one version bump...
18:13 Megaf but this stupid minetest doesnt say which mod is sending the message
18:13 ThomasMonroe oh, well that's dumb
18:13 Megaf I have 100s of mods, I'm not going to trial an error
18:14 Megaf fuck minetest, really
18:14 benrob0329 Megaf: the mod doesnt say?
18:14 Megaf I will just say to my Patreons (yes, I have patreons), sorry, I can't keep up this shit, Minetest devs are too stupid
18:14 benrob0329 I mean, yes the error should say, file an issue
18:14 Donbatman Oh dear. Is it a bad time for me to return to minetest?
18:14 sofar Megaf: any mods in minetest-mods, perhaps?
18:15 benrob0329 But the mod's own error messages should also say what mod it is
18:15 Megaf they didnt even get 0.4.16 right, not even the name, it's called .17-dev and they are working on 0.5 that is just incompatible
18:15 Megaf fuck all that, really
18:15 Megaf I'm not wasting any more of my time with that
18:16 benrob0329 Megaf: ....17-dev is not .16 stable
18:16 Megaf benrob0329, I know, but the tag in Github is broken
18:16 benrob0329 Since when?
18:16 Megaf we were discussing about that here couple of weeks ago
18:16 Megaf I don't want to talk about that
18:16 Megaf search the logs and/or GitHub issues
18:17 benrob0329 Megaf: file an issue for error messages not having the mod attached
18:17 benrob0329 Or don't, someone else will eventually
18:20 Megaf I can do that
18:20 Megaf benrob0329, error messages not having the mod attached
18:20 Megaf there you go
18:21 Megaf That's the amount of time and dedication I'm willing to put into that right now
18:21 Megaf sofar, ^
18:21 sofar I should do a compat test on 0.4.16 and all of the minetest-mods
18:22 sfan5 Megaf: the tag on github is not broken
18:23 benrob0329 Megaf: thank you, now go have a nice warm cup of something to calm down :-)
18:23 Megaf benrob0329, Having a glass of wine. I'm pretty calm.
18:23 Megaf benrob0329, I expect a dev to tag my issue and fix the title
18:27 Megaf sfan5, doing git clone --depth=1 -b stable-0.4 https://www.github.com/minetest.git
18:27 Megaf results in -- *** Will build version 0.4.17-dev ***
18:27 sfan5 stable-0.4 is not a tag but a branch
18:27 Jordach sfan5, this guy loves programming and prefers a more open engine :^)
18:27 Megaf that's what I mean my broken, it's not ideal
18:28 Megaf not optimal
18:28 Megaf getting something called -dev when you request something called stable
18:28 Megaf it's in the little things, attention to detail
18:28 Megaf perfection
18:28 Megaf Minetest is far from that
18:28 Megaf people just don't care about this things
18:28 * Jordach looks at personal subgame
18:28 sfan5 wrong
18:28 * Jordach whistles
18:28 sfan5 i told ruben to fix that yesterday
18:29 sofar Jordach: mind if I join the whistling?
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18:29 Megaf Didn't we had an issue open about that?
18:29 sfan5 a PR yers
18:29 sfan5 y
18:29 sfan5 yes*
18:29 Megaf a, PR
18:29 Megaf right
18:29 Megaf This? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6551
18:30 Megaf benrob0329, ^
18:30 Jordach sofar, yes
18:30 IhrFussel Forum signatures can be used for blatant advertising ... something most servers disallow
18:31 IhrFussel All you gotta do is post once in any server topic and there you go, advertised something
18:31 benrob0329 Megaf: use the 0.4.16 tag/branch
18:32 Megaf the branch is called stable-0.4
18:32 Megaf and that's the branch I want to use
18:32 Megaf it is totally fine 0.5 living on master
18:32 benrob0329 I know, but release is 0.4.16
18:32 sfan5 Megaf: use the backports-0.4 branch btw
18:33 Megaf Roger wilco
18:33 Megaf wilco == Will Comply == Will do
18:33 * sfan5 points to the news post whose URL he can't be bothered to find now
18:34 * Megaf will find
18:34 benrob0329 sfan5: there's a branch for backports? /me will build for next server
18:34 * Megaf googles forum minetest backports-0.4
18:34 Megaf fails
18:35 sfan5 news section
18:36 Megaf benrob0329, ThomasMonroe, only thing I'm waiting for to release the updated version of my server is a new stable 0.4 and a message that shows the mod causing the error message...
18:36 Megaf Once we have a stable release we can work on the mods
18:36 sfan5 >new stable 0.4
18:36 sfan5 good luck waiting 4 more months
18:36 ThomasMonroe heh
18:36 Megaf sfan5, 0.5 coming before that
18:37 lisac https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gam​ing/comments/7eb0g3/did_you_hear_a​bout_minetest_a_foss_nearinfinite/
18:37 sfan5 0.5 will be after 0.4.17
18:37 Megaf I might well just skip 0.4 altogether and go 0.5
18:37 sfan5 that loses you 96% of the playerbase
18:37 ThomasMonroe are there any plans for .6 yet?
18:38 sfan5 no
18:38 * Megaf dies
18:38 ThomasMonroe ?? out of curiosity, why not?
18:38 Megaf ThomasMonroe, common man
18:38 Megaf just, don't
18:39 ThomasMonroe lol sorry Megaf, I just want to know where its headed
18:39 Megaf Minetest has no head
18:39 lisac Is there a general idea of what we need for 1.0?
18:39 lisac or rather, first release?
18:39 benrob0329 I would assume its because nobody knows where its heading
18:39 * Megaf roars at Shara
18:39 CWz There won't be a 6, 8 will be so intense it will skip over the other two
18:39 Megaf CWz, +1 ^
18:40 * ThomasMonroe thinks Megaf drank too much wine ;)
18:40 Megaf ThomasMonroe, I'm only halfway through the glass
18:40 Megaf and I have no idea if that sentence makes any sense
18:40 CWz ThomasMonroe, Not sure if he even uses linux
18:40 Donbatman Can you drink too much wine?
18:40 CWz Yes.
18:40 ThomasMonroe ^
18:41 Megaf Donbatman, you mean me? Or in general
18:41 Donbatman Megaf either
18:41 CWz Drinking too much wine could lead to death by gut burst
18:41 Megaf Donbatman, well, as my mom always said. "The difference between a poison and a medicine is the dosage."
18:41 ThomasMonroe touche
18:42 Megaf My mom is a wise mom
18:42 Donbatman Megaf. I never heard that before. I like it
18:42 Megaf too mad her son is so stupid
18:42 Megaf too bad*
18:42 ThomasMonroe lol same here
18:42 Megaf hah
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18:44 benrob0329 Wb tenplus1
18:44 tenplus1 back...  Simple Skins updated to fix /setskin bug
18:44 tenplus1 thx ben
18:45 ThomasMonroe ok I'll tell Caleb
18:45 Megaf lol https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6654
18:45 Megaf benrob0329, ^
18:45 Megaf see man?
18:45 Megaf Time wasted
18:45 Megaf Minetest devs are stupid,
18:46 sfan5 "my issue wasn't solved the way i wanted"
18:46 Megaf my issue was not solved at all
18:46 sfan5 instead of whining here do something useful and comment why you want it solved differently
18:46 Megaf I expect people to have brains and use them
18:46 sfan5 you aren't using yours evidently
18:46 Megaf for me it's obvious what's the problem is
18:46 benrob0329 Megaf: would the backtrace pinpoint the mod though?
18:46 Megaf sfan5, And I said I'm stupid too
18:46 sofar nobody is getting paid to work on minetest
18:47 Megaf sofar, don't even start with that
18:47 Megaf that thinking is a real cancer in the open source world
18:47 Megaf you dont dont want to do a good job, then just don't
18:47 Megaf and don't use not getting paid as excuse
18:47 sofar nobody is here to do a fucking shit job
18:47 sfan5 Megaf: how does having the backtrace available not solve your problem?
18:47 sofar fuck off with that attitude
18:47 Megaf don't blame lack of payment for your incompetence either
18:48 sofar YOU DONT LIKE IT? TAKE A HIKE
18:48 Megaf Doing that :)
18:48 sofar or shut up and start coding
18:48 * tenplus1 explodes sleeping gas to calm the situation
18:48 Megaf yesterday I walked 17 KM
18:48 Megaf just after working out for one hour
18:48 sfan5 before you go maybe answer my question
18:48 Megaf and as I said, my server is down, and will stay down
18:49 Megaf sfan5, I expect to know which mod is sending/causing a message to show up in the terminal/log. Otherwise, I consider the message useless.
18:49 Megaf Specially a message like that, that could be just now shown at all and ignored
18:49 sofar you're the one who installed mods that use inadequate logging
18:49 sfan5 sounds reasonable, you should have commented that on the issue instead of whining here
18:50 sfan5 sofar: deprecated logging is on the engine
18:50 Megaf sfan5, alrighty, let me rewrite that thing
18:54 IhrFussel I also want to add that the "nobody pays me" line is extremely arrogant and stupid if it's about a minor change that could be done in 5 minutes after your dinner
18:54 Megaf sfan5, better? https://github.com/minetest/mine​test/issues/6654#issue-275451770
18:55 sofar IhrFussel: I didn't say "nobody pays ME", I said "nobody IS paid"
18:55 Megaf IhrFussel, he just got pissed of by my stupidity.
18:55 sofar everyone here is in control
18:55 sofar *everyone*
18:55 Megaf If I was in control Minetest would be EXTREMELY different
18:56 Megaf way smaller and simplerer, with 1/10 of the "features"
18:56 sofar there's nothing preventing anyone in here from giving me a back scratch and pushing a PR forward
18:56 Megaf simpler*
18:56 IhrFussel I wasn't refering to now, I saw that line quite a few times in the past already and just thought it's time to give my 2 cents
18:56 Megaf and 1/1000 of the bugs
18:56 sofar or sending sfan5 some good vibes and having him make a PR
18:56 sfan5 heh
18:56 sfan5 i'm way too lazy to make a PR
18:56 sofar (I don't even know what the particular PR would be)
18:57 sofar I've already suggested to scan minetest-mods against 0.4.16 and fix offenders, essentially
18:57 sfan5 some minor changes, probably less than 10 lines
18:57 sofar so it's not like I'm not going to do anything either
18:57 IhrFussel That seems to be one of the major issues: Creating a PR ... maybe there is some way to post the fix somewhere and let someone else, who knows how to create one, handle the rest
18:58 Megaf rubenwardy, Krock, can you have a look at this please? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4564
18:58 sofar but I reject when people do this:
18:58 Megaf maybe it's very quick to fix that ^
18:58 sofar <Megaf> Minetest devs are stupid,
18:58 sofar or
18:58 Megaf "[Request] Make client timeout if RTT < 0. #4564"
18:58 sofar <kilbith> yet another short-sighted decision, eh
18:58 sofar fuck that
18:58 sofar you want to complain about a technical problem? TOTALLY ok
18:59 sofar you want to ad-hominem? fuck off
18:59 Megaf I should have said. "The majority of Open Source devs are stupid"
18:59 Megaf but that affirmation is wrong anyway
18:59 red-001 ah the typical kilbith
18:59 Megaf of course they are not stupid
18:59 Megaf They are developers after all, not CEOs...
18:59 Megaf nor desginers
18:59 sofar \/monday
18:59 Megaf designers*
19:00 Megaf again, there's no head in Minetest
19:00 Megaf no one saying "this is good", "this could be better"
19:00 Megaf so is not that Minetest devs are stupid, it's just that Minetest is a headless project
19:01 Megaf no head, nowhere to put the eyes, so Minetest can't see to where it's headed/going
19:01 * Megaf sips some more wine
19:01 * tenplus1 joins him
19:01 ThomasMonroe its a project where people work on what they think is something good to be added
19:01 * CWz places a pumpkin on minetests head
19:02 CWz issue solved
19:02 tenplus1 eheheh hi CWz
19:02 CWz Another unsatisfied grump, next!
19:02 * red-001 puts some straw in the pumpkin
19:02 Megaf LMAO CWz
19:02 ThomasMonroe lol
19:03 benrob0329 <sercasm>C55 returning when?</sarcasm>
19:03 Megaf Minetest 0.3 is so loved because it had a head
19:03 Megaf Linux has a head
19:03 Megaf Apple lost it's head
19:04 ThomasMonroe did C55 ever leave?
19:04 Megaf no, he is right there ->
19:04 tenplus1 I think sometimes people just need a break
19:04 ThomasMonroe ^
19:04 Megaf or brake...
19:04 CWz tenplus1, what if they don't have interact.
19:05 * benrob0329 sips some nice, cold water
19:05 tenplus1 :P
19:06 * Megaf tops up his glass of wine
19:07 Megaf man I love wine
19:07 tenplus1 what kinda you got ?
19:07 Megaf a blend, it's red wine, but a blend of 3 different grapes
19:07 Megaf Spanish wine, from 2011
19:08 tenplus1 nice...  I tried some japanese sweet wine lately, was pretty good
19:08 Megaf After 3 years I'm finally closing this. https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1620
19:09 Megaf will never be implemented
19:09 CWz We need to elect a new head
19:09 CWz who are our options?
19:09 ThomasMonroe the pumpkin
19:09 * Megaf votes for the pumpkin
19:10 benrob0329 c55, paramat, Acts of God
19:10 * tenplus1 calls in Notch
19:10 benrob0329 I would say sofar, but he's busy with ITB
19:10 benrob0329 Lol
19:11 CWz The issue with the pumpkin is just that, it just the pumpkin, we need the horsemen and his horse
19:11 CWz the real question is, which dev are we going to behead?
19:12 benrob0329 The Great Pumpkin for Minetest Head of Design 2018
19:12 CWz ooh that Pumpkin
19:12 Roger9 yey
19:12 * PumpkinHead just gets the nick PumpkinHead deregistered and groups it to his account
19:14 ThomasMonroe if you are trying to hide, its not working
19:22 Jordach can sun and moon texture be overridden by subgames
19:24 tenplus1 yes, if they include their own texture packs
19:24 Jordach explain
19:25 tenplus1 game/mods/default/textures
19:25 Jordach >default
19:25 Jordach nice hardcoding
19:26 tenplus1 game being your game dir
19:26 tenplus1 anything inside textures shoudl replace default
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19:28 tenplus1 wb nrz
19:28 tenplus1 hi Mr_Pardison
19:28 Mr_Pardison hello.
19:29 Mr_Pardison At the library today to work on college applications.
19:30 tenplus1 ooh, good luck with those
19:30 sofar want me to kick you from this channel so you can concentrate? :)
19:30 Mr_Pardison I'm fine.
19:30 Mr_Pardison thx 4 the offer tho.
19:35 Fixer reading forums about firefox release
19:35 tenplus1 ff 57 is a lot faster on my intel laptop :) I like
19:35 Fixer general mood: it is kinda faster, lots of addons are now dead, both ff and chrome are shit, web is full of shit, bring back that opera back
19:36 tenplus1 Opera was an amazing browser until they chromified it... pah!... even Vivaldi sucketh
19:36 Fixer yeah
19:37 Fixer they still cripple the browsers
19:37 Fixer i just don't understand where soft dev is moving
19:37 Fixer it is shit
19:38 Fixer i turn off autoupdate on any freeware I get, seen too many cases when it suddenly turned into shit (even open source programs)
19:38 tenplus1 I hate that in windows...
19:38 tenplus1 all the startup programs to auto update everything...
19:38 Fixer that is disabled too
19:39 Fixer update does not mean it is good
19:39 Fixer often it is shitty
19:39 Fixer you end up with degraded software or even malware
19:40 tenplus1 I do updates myself so I know what's changing and why
19:40 Fixer and that -ing UI rewriting
19:40 tenplus1 checking changelogs etc
19:40 Fixer not everyone provides changelogs
19:41 benrob0329 Native addons are asking for trouble imho
19:41 tenplus1 I have 1 addon for ublock origin
19:43 benrob0329 uBlock and uMatrix
19:43 benrob0329 Thinking that uMatrix may be more trouble than its worth
19:43 tenplus1 heh yup
19:43 Fixer worst thing is when you have this great program that is suddenly has UI rewrite that makes it totally useless
19:44 Fixer dumbing down
19:44 benrob0329 New Firefox UI is really customizable, I dont consider that dumbing down
19:44 tenplus1 does Firefox and Chrome really need Qt5/GTK support when it can use it's own built-in UI to handle such things using html5 theming
19:44 tenplus1 that would cut out a LOT of crap and speed things up
19:45 benrob0329 tenplus1: yes, but people like their GTK themes
19:45 benrob0329 There would be an outrage
19:45 tenplus1 true for GUI's that need it... but... for web viewing you could easily use html5 flat themes and only need colour/background changes
19:45 benrob0329 Weeping, and Gnashing of Teeth
19:46 tenplus1 I would much prefer speed and memory usage over gtk
19:46 tenplus1 *less memory usage
19:47 Fixer example of UI degradation: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co​mmons/e/eb/Free_Download_Manager_3.9.png vs https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co​mmons/5/52/Free_Download_Manager_5.1.png
19:47 sfan5 but it's so much more modern!!
19:47 tenplus1 woah, they dumbed it down for w10 look... no way
19:47 Fixer benrob0329: no it is not in any way customisable, I've used firefox since like seamonkey
19:48 Fixer sfan5: FUUUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUU
19:48 sfan5 :)
19:48 tenplus1 ehehehe, w10 look n feel sucks...
19:48 Fixer ._.
19:48 Mr_Pardison w10 is horrible.
19:48 tenplus1 +1million agreed
19:49 Mr_Pardison I had it on my ocmputer and it hates me so much now that it gets to the boot screen but doesn't boot. I'm backing up all my files and am going to install fedora.
19:49 Mr_Pardison *computer
19:49 tenplus1 I gave up on windows after WinXP SP3
19:50 tenplus1 after that they kept adding fluff and it was insecure
19:50 Fixer windows gives mixed feel, it is kinda full of shit, very full, but they have some innovation like that feature against malware (authorising access to your docs/etc folders)
19:51 Fixer and that god damn UI rewrite
19:51 tenplus1 *shudder*
19:51 Fixer can we just admit METRO was shit and Windows is not TABLET OS, and just move back to standardised interface and drop down this hipster crap?
19:51 benrob0329 Fixer: sure...
19:51 tenplus1 I swear they try to dumb things down so that more ppl need to call support and give them money
19:51 benrob0329 Fixer: that I can agree with
19:52 tenplus1 windows at one point came with manuals of use, comprehensive guides... now it;s nothing
19:52 Fixer pff
19:52 Fixer when you buy that android crap, it has no manual
19:52 Fixer you have to furiously swype on your screen like you are a monkey
19:53 Fixer design UI for idiots and only idiots will use it
19:53 Fixer since when workstation OS became for idiots?
19:54 Fixer and that "legendary" gnome UI with large everything for tablets that don't exist
19:55 Fixer user these days was turned into alpha/beta/UI-tester
19:55 tenplus1 Unity was pretty good, they are going to release an Ubuntu Unity Remix
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19:55 Fixer and you wonder why so many refuse to upgrade, because upgraded software is degraded piece of shit
19:56 Fixer and they call you a dinosaur etc
19:56 red-001 wb ImNotHere
20:00 Fixer unity is dead iirc
20:00 tenplus1 nope, there's a group that has taken it over and continues to improve... hence the Ubuntu Unity Edition
20:00 Fixer mark cut the stuff, wants IPO, sell out that crap and buy that yacht before bubble burst
20:01 Fixer *simplified*
20:10 benrob0329 Terminal + a few gui tools = bliss
20:10 Fixer good UI is welcomed
20:11 tenplus1 yeah
20:11 Fixer the problem is those UX-retards dumb good UI down to shit UI, so you end up on old versions, switching software or even OS/ or go insane way - to CMD
20:14 Fixer console has its uses, it is very powerful, but is needed only in special cases
20:17 benrob0329 Fixer: the terminal is nice, it doesnt change with every update
20:17 benrob0329 Both my file manager and text editor are temrinal based
20:18 * tenplus1 prefers PcManFm and Mousepad :)
20:18 benrob0329 Simplicity is bliss, both under and on top of the hood
20:19 benrob0329 That does not mean replace the hood with a perfectly straight piece of metal and call it "modern"
20:19 Mr_Pardison you call it modern art.
20:21 Fixer but but it is modern!
20:21 tenplus1 lolol
20:24 Jordach https://i.imgur.com/76lsCaE.png
20:24 Jordach git gud
20:24 tenplus1 ?
20:24 Mr_Pardison darksouls reference?
20:24 benrob0329 A big problem I have with modern UI is hiding a menu under a menu under a menu
20:25 Jordach https://i.imgur.com/tbp5yv3.jpg tenplus1 notice the new sun and moon textures
20:25 benrob0329 Just to "clean" the interface
20:25 tenplus1 ohh
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20:26 tenplus1 hi paramat
20:28 tenplus1 w00t, the NHS has there own version of Ubuntu in the works... "NHOS"
20:28 paramat too much OS talk today here, please restrain offtopic, we're not tolerating excessive offtopic anymore
20:28 tenplus1 buuuuuuuu....
20:29 sofar I'm tolerating it just fine, todays chat has been largely on-topic
20:30 Fixer still need to read yesterday one, i missed a lot
20:30 sofar UX/UI discussions are highly relevant anyway (especially given MT's dreadful UI in some respects)
20:32 paramat there was a lot of OS talk with nothing to do with MT
20:32 Jordach tenplus1, NHS spening stupid money on IT that'll be useless in about a year
20:32 Jordach colour me never suprised
20:32 tenplus1 some current NHS areas still use XP... *shudder*
20:32 Jordach reee
20:32 Fixer i was expecting DOS or W98 tbh
20:32 tenplus1 so having them move to linux is a good stepping stone in security and open-source
20:34 Jordach >open-source
20:34 Jordach only because it can save the slightest amount of money
20:34 tenplus1 that damn Wannacy virus brought down many systems
20:34 tenplus1 all because of XP
20:35 paramat please can someone start an unofficial MT-offtopic channel? we really need it
20:36 tenplus1 no way... am not opening and switching between more than 1 mt channel
20:36 benrob0329 paramat: I co-run a general unixy room here on Matrix, i'd love it if more people joined ;-)
20:36 tenplus1 we talk shop in here all the time and a little offtopic is good
20:37 benrob0329 On-topic, does anyone else think that DMs should be terrifying creatures of the deep?
20:38 benrob0329 Something that cannot be killed but by experienced players, striking fear into those not worthy.
20:39 Mr_Pardison On d/l, to kill them I build myself a shelter out of stuff around me then damage them with lava.
20:40 tenplus1 maybe a water DM would be handy but only in deep waters...
20:40 benrob0329 That sounds OP, especially for something that breaths fire.
20:40 tenplus1 xanadu has dungeon masters and dungeon lords that are more powerful
20:40 paramat refusing to look at >1 MT channel is ridiculous, we already have 3 that you to monitor
20:41 tenplus1 paramat: I only join this one and pop into -dev for a few seconds to post a pull link
20:41 tenplus1 this is my main hub
20:41 benrob0329 I would rather not make DMs a franchise :-)
20:41 paramat it's gone beyond a little offtopic, a little is fine
20:41 Fixer i'm quite, I've even posted a bugreport
20:41 * tenplus1 sells t-shirts
20:41 Fixer https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6655
20:42 Fixer Wuzzy has pretty good luck of finding various bugs
20:42 Mr_Pardison My strategy is based upon going down to the deep caves to mine for stuff (and kill some mobs along the way) and since I have the ability to manipulate lava, I bring some along as it I figured that if it can kill players, why not use it to kill mobs as well?
20:42 paramat tenplus1 you need to use >1 channel instead of breaking channel rules
20:42 Mr_Pardison and there stuff does not burn up like a players stuff does.
20:43 * paramat will start kicking :]
20:43 benrob0329 I think DMs should be fire proof, although how I imagine them being is way cooler than they are now
20:43 tenplus1 o.O
20:43 tenplus1 wait, dont I already have them lava proof ? they only get hurt in water..... checks!!!
20:44 Fixer can you give some clothes to DMs?
20:44 tenplus1 I have lava damage set to 1 per second...  should I remove that and only have them die in water ?
20:44 benrob0329 their "fire" is also OP, it should be like a dragon burning through and melting things imho
20:44 tenplus1 Fixer: you any good at drawing 80's He-Man t-shirts ?
20:45 Fixer not at all
20:45 tenplus1 damn... there's that idea outta the equasion
20:45 benrob0329 tenplus1: if you wish, I would like to make a new model for them at some point
20:45 tenplus1 go for it ben :) am always looking for newer models and textures for mobs
20:47 benrob0329 But imagine a miner dropping into a cave, placing some light a dark figure moves out of the shadows. In a single step the figure ia fully lit
20:47 * benrob0329 uploaded an image: 79d5239590597beaf4565568fafb0d00-d6li8k1.jpg (341KB) <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/down​load/matrix.org/IOKryVRZYPpYKVUpqLaNZrRC>
20:48 tenplus1 0.5 has new light effects that would be great for mobs... already put glow particles into arrows for fireballs
20:49 benrob0329 It pauses, scanning the player to make sure it's not one of "them". Inhailing, it begins to blast a stream of flame and fire from below its chiseled face, melting everything around it
20:50 tenplus1 the plasmaball could be made into fireball that turns to lava_flowing when hitting nodes and slowing down player
20:51 benrob0329 The player doges, and runs for his/her life. Looking back to see the dark figure standing in the stream of molten rock, with you just out of sight.
20:51 Mr_Pardison *DarkSouls dodge
20:51 tenplus1 heh
20:52 tenplus1 played DS once and got ptsd...  *shakes*
20:53 benrob0329 Basically, if you're not as OP as it is, run the frick away
20:54 tenplus1 maybe the mobs.difficulty setting could be used to speed up fireballs as well... make DM's ahrder
20:54 benrob0329 Oh! They would have been created to not destroy mese
20:55 benrob0329 So Mese armor would make you (sort of) immune to the attack
20:55 Mr_Pardison or water and a boat.
20:55 Mr_Pardison I employ that strategy with hydras.
20:56 tenplus1 hydras are well done :) I like those mobs
20:56 benrob0329 DMs should never be on the surface for water to matter...
20:56 Mr_Pardison no no no.
20:57 Mr_Pardison I mean that when you go deep down to where they are, you bring some water and a boat with you and employ the hydra strategy.
20:57 tenplus1 ohh
20:58 * Mr_Pardison snagged the idea from TommyTreasure and some other players who were doing that
20:58 benrob0329 I get what your saying, I'm saying the whole "water kills mobs no matter what" is silly for something that can swim, or it so far underground that it wont matter
20:58 benrob0329 *is so far
20:58 tenplus1 being a fire mob then water should hurt it... but slowly
20:58 Mr_Pardison it won't kill them since you will be placing it on a flat surface.
20:58 benrob0329 If fully submerged, yes
20:58 Mr_Pardison you are putting the boat on the water so you can kill them and not take damage.
20:59 benrob0329 Oh...
20:59 tenplus1 the mobs api will target the boat and fire at it... but... it's immortal so wont break...  boats and carts should have a life
20:59 tenplus1 or health
20:59 Mr_Pardison no!
20:59 Mr_Pardison I like this strategy and it helped me to get a lot of diamonds.
21:00 tenplus1 ehehehe
21:00 Mr_Pardison plus, most of the players that use it don't really share it with others.
21:00 benrob0329 tenplus1: I would think that a fire mob would be hindered by water, but not killed by it unless drowned
21:01 benrob0329 If a DM drank, it might have to dry out before firing for eg
21:02 tenplus1 lol, then youy'd find chests filled with fire whiskey laying around :D
21:02 Donbatman OOOOH can I have some fire whiskey?
21:02 benrob0329 Heh, that'd certainly be a mechanic
21:03 benrob0329 "The drunk Dungeon Master"
21:03 tenplus1 eheheh, some of the fireballs miss completely and explode behind you
21:03 Mr_Pardison that's just what we need. drunken mobs or DankSouls forbid, drunken players.
21:04 tenplus1 once we can control player:set_player_velocity() I can add drunken effects to wine mod...
21:04 tenplus1 even hiccups with player eye offset changes
21:04 benrob0329 Mr_Pardison: we already have that, haven't you seem Jordan's live streams :P
21:04 Mr_Pardison I haven't.
21:04 Mr_Pardison I've been a bit busy with school, you see.
21:05 Mr_Pardison Even though one of my classes is a study hall and another one of them is so easy I can pretty much do what I want to on my computer and still easily pass.
21:05 benrob0329 https://www.youtube.com/user/313hummer
21:07 benrob0329 I should make a DM animation
21:10 tenplus1 am all ears for mob changes/tweaks :))
21:11 * Mr_Pardison hands tenplus1 an ear
21:11 tenplus1 :P
21:11 tenplus1 I do need better textures for the horses though... those are kinda cartoony
21:12 Mr_Pardison so let them be that way.
21:12 Mr_Pardison maybe some one will get a laugh out of it.
21:13 tenplus1 heh...  Robbie's joke server has them walking upsidedown... so funny
21:14 Mr_Pardison xP
21:16 tenplus1 sleepy time, nite all ;))
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21:23 Shara Hi all
21:24 Mr_Pardison Mew.
21:24 Donbatman HI Shara the travelling kitty
21:24 Shara Hello Mr. P and the Great Batman
21:25 Shara Did I miss any exciting things today?
21:25 Mr_Pardison Other than a discussion about DM's (in which I shared my strategy for them and fighting hydras), not that I know of.
21:26 Shara I wonder how many servers even have hydras
21:27 Mr_Pardison someone *coughs tenplus1* wanted to change it so that boats (and carts) had a health level and were not invincible, thereby eliminating this strategy.
21:27 Donbatman What are hydras?
21:27 Shara water dragons
21:27 Mr_Pardison tasty creatures that drop diamonds (or in the case of the large one, a diamond block) when killed.
21:27 Donbatman oh
21:28 Mr_Pardison drop chance varies.
21:28 Shara Mr P, cheaters such as yourself make me want to create diamond blocks that explode when collected.
21:28 Shara :D
21:28 Mr_Pardison hey!
21:28 Mr_Pardison What I do is a perfectly legitimate thing.
21:29 Mr_Pardison and I wouldn't take damage from it as I am usually still on the boat when I collect it.
21:29 benrob0329 Shara: "And I would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!"
21:30 Mr_Pardison other players employ the same strategy.
21:30 Mr_Pardison would you want to unexpectedly kill them?
21:30 * benrob0329 whips out the kill hammer
21:31 * Mr_Pardison pulls out a Battleaxe with the "Grim" enchantment
21:32 Shara Would I want players to have a hard time on a survival server?
21:32 Shara Yes of course.
21:33 Shara I could just remove boats, you know :)
21:33 Mr_Pardison ik.
21:33 * benrob0329 points out DM story above
21:33 benrob0329 THAT would be awesome on a servival server
21:33 Mr_Pardison DM's, no boats?
21:34 Mr_Pardison I would just employ my other strategy for those.
21:34 benrob0329 My vision of the DMs, no boats
21:34 * Mr_Pardison feels like he is sharing all of his trade secrets
21:34 Shara benrob0329: I have my own ideas for lore and background story on my servers
21:34 benrob0329 Shara: then do it :-)
21:35 Mr_Pardison but I think that those secrets can be entrusted with you.
21:35 Shara Time....
21:35 benrob0329 That is the key factor of life, isnt it,
21:35 * Shara needs to stop travelling somewhere every other week
21:36 Mr_Pardison but when my time is up, have I done enough? Will they tell your story?
21:37 Mr_Pardison Elizabeth Schuyler, lyrics from Hamilton. Song is "Who lives, Who Dies, Who Tells Your Story" from act II
21:37 benrob0329 Someone will tell your story, the question is..who?
21:37 Mr_Pardison you have no control who lives, who dies, who tells your story.
21:37 Mr_Pardison *still quotes the same song*
21:41 benrob0329 Shara: would you agree though, that a giant fuzzy teddy isnt really how the DM should be portrayed?
21:41 Shara doesnt really look like a teddy to me
21:41 benrob0329 Doesnt really look frightening to me
21:42 Mr_Pardison looks like someone just threw a bunch of mud blocks together, added a head, legs and arms also mad of mud and called it a DM.
21:42 Shara Not a single thing in MT looks frightening to me
21:42 benrob0329 Or even tough, it looks kinda chubby at best
21:42 Shara Make a better model then
21:42 Mr_Pardison yes it does.
21:42 benrob0329 that's the plan
21:43 benrob0329 But, someone wise once said, "Time...."
21:44 Mr_Pardison "....is only a concept made up by humans."
21:45 benrob0329 Mr_Pardison: no, that was just someone from the theoretical physics department :P
21:45 Mr_Pardison have they been able to prove that yet?
21:46 benrob0329 Well, one theory is that gravity is just a side effect of moving through time because things move towards the slowest passing of time
21:47 benrob0329 (Latest Vsauce)
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21:56 benrob0329 Oh, Shara: I wasn't talking about the lore, I was talking about the execution of the DM
21:58 Shara Not sure I follow
22:00 benrob0329 Shara: the "DM story" was solely about the execution of a DM encounter
22:01 Fixer Shara: no boats is bad decision, here is another way - make recipe much harder
22:02 Mr_Pardison .......
22:02 Mr_Pardison and how exactly do you propose to do that?
22:02 Mr_Pardison the boat's texture is one of wood planks.
22:02 * Shara can edit textures
22:02 Mr_Pardison technically, shouldn't the texture match the recipe?
22:02 benrob0329 It'll be made entirely of diamond blocks >:-)
22:03 Shara About 99 of them I think
22:03 Mr_Pardison ik that the texture can be changed but still I think it would be better to leave it as is.
22:04 Mr_Pardison Shara: has the ability to not die from a lack of light been added to a bat or other ride-able animal on d/l yet as I would like to try some night flying.
22:06 Fixer you go to be kidding me: "Sorry Guest, you are banned from using this forum!" avidemux forum
22:07 Mr_Pardison like getting k-lined unexpectedly.
22:07 Shara Mr_Pardison: not yet
22:07 * Mr_Pardison puts night flying on his try later list
22:07 Shara I still need to decide the best way to do it
22:57 Mr_Pardison tying it to a function that checks to see whether they are riding an animal would take up too much memory, right?
23:01 Shara I just need to look at what functionality mobs_redo has
23:02 Shara I already made armour pieces that disable darkness damage for example, but don't know if there's a eay to tie that to mounting a mob yet
23:03 Shara an easy*
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23:27 ImNotHere Hi all
23:27 ImNotHere thanks red-001
23:27 Donbatman Hi Megaf
23:27 ImNotHere What's the criteria to get a contributor tag on github?
23:27 Mr_Pardison hello.
23:27 Donbatman oops... ImNotHere
23:27 * Mr_Pardison goes back to being overwatch on other channels
23:27 ImNotHere just opening issues or PR is required?
23:28 * red-001 ¯_(ツ)_/¯
23:29 red-001 I bet #github knows
23:29 Donbatman Open issue anf if you can fix it then open a pr that is linked to the issue
23:29 Jordach Mr_Pardison, cheers love, the minetesters are here :^)
23:30 Donbatman *and
23:30 * Megaf sips some more wine
23:30 * Mr_Pardison prefers a warm mug of hot cocoa.
23:30 Megaf I could do with some peanuts too
23:31 Mr_Pardison get them from the peanut galley.
23:31 Megaf Mr_Pardison, I'm out of cocoa powder :(
23:31 Mr_Pardison RIP.
23:31 Mr_Pardison Wine is a poor substitute for it.
23:31 Megaf Not if you want to relax
23:31 * Mr_Pardison doesn't drink
23:32 Mr_Pardison and I'm not legally able to.
23:32 Jordach relax?
23:32 Jordach pfft
23:32 * Jordach has a bag of weeeeeeed
23:32 Megaf Mr_Pardison, I'm totally (opposite of against) drinking
23:32 Megaf As long as it's a little
23:33 Megaf like one glass of wine, just a single one, every evening
23:33 Megaf red wine that is
23:33 Megaf or one pint of beer
23:33 Megaf It is actually healthy
23:33 red-001 Jordach, you got scammed they only gave you 7 "e"'s you need at least 11
23:33 Donbatman Or one pint of whiskey?
23:33 Mr_Pardison XD
23:33 Jordach OwO
23:34 * Sokomine grabs mr_pradisons cocoa and runs away with it
23:34 Megaf Problem is not the alcohol. problem is some people get addicted easily, and some people can't control themselves
23:34 Megaf Like me with chocolate
23:34 * Mr_Pardison runs after Sokomine and snags it back
23:34 Megaf I can't eat just a piece, it has to be the whole box
23:34 Mr_Pardison no one steals my hot cocoa.
23:34 * Megaf roars
23:34 Sokomine :-)
23:35 Mr_Pardison Mew LittleRoaryTiger
23:35 Sokomine seems megaf wants to defend his chocolate as well :-)
23:35 Mr_Pardison actual chocolate.
23:35 LittleRoaryTiger No body messes with ones chocolate
23:35 LittleRoaryTiger no one*
23:35 Sokomine :-)
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23:36 Mr_Pardison what do you call a person with out a body and that lacks a nose?
23:36 RoaryTiger I wonder what people in other channels think about my nicks...
23:36 RoaryTiger Mr_Pardison, nobody knows
23:36 RoaryTiger hahha
23:36 Mr_Pardison yes!
23:37 Raven262 /r/jokes i see.
23:37 RoaryTiger I'm actually laughing here
23:37 * Donbatman thinks Megaf had too much wine. He be Roaring now
23:37 Sokomine such jokes are more tricky than normal chat (at least for me)
23:37 RoaryTiger Donbatman, I only roar in two ocasions, to get Sharas attention and to defend ones chocolate
23:38 Donbatman lol
23:38 Raven262 Your chocolate mostly, right? xD
23:38 RoaryTiger About the joke, I just read, no+body and nose, knows
23:38 Sokomine maybe you can combine the two :-)
23:38 RoaryTiger I'm sure there's must be someone using the nick ChocolateMan
23:38 * RoaryTiger checks
23:39 Donbatman Punchline please
23:39 RoaryTiger ChocolateMan is not registered....
23:39 Mr_Pardison joined #minetest-hub
23:39 RoaryTiger nor is ChocolateWoman/Girl
23:39 RoaryTiger we Mr_Pardison
23:39 ChocolateMann or ChocolateMan
23:39 Mr_Pardison computer froze one me.
23:39 Mr_Pardison *on
23:39 RoaryTiger wb*
23:39 ChocolateMann *nn
23:40 Sokomine guess they where eaten :-)
23:40 RoaryTiger Sokomine, hah!
23:40 Sokomine oh? in connection with mt?
23:40 RoaryTiger It does make sense doesnt it
23:40 RoaryTiger ChocolateMann, you doubled the n
23:40 ChocolateMann RoaryTiger, I meant to
23:40 Raven262 I get it, actually.
23:41 RoaryTiger I don't
23:41 Raven262 TF2?
23:41 Mr_Pardison CSGO?
23:41 ChocolateMann Raven262, german
23:41 RoaryTiger iGetit, iDont, new Apple phones...
23:41 Raven262 Still, TF2
23:41 * Mr_Pardison doesn't play any Steam games.
23:42 RoaryTiger me neither
23:42 Mr_Pardison I'm more of a web-browser based gamer.
23:42 * ChocolateMann ¯_(ツ)_/¯
23:42 Mr_Pardison except for MT.
23:42 Raven262 I got myself an balloon unicorn in TF2. Its perfectly natural to think of TF2 all the time.
23:43 ChocolateMann all nick names from ChocolateMan to ChocolateMannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn​nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn are unregistered
23:43 Raven262 You don't say. :P
23:43 Mr_Pardison no me digas....
23:44 RoaryTiger ChocolateMann, That's what I call some available time
23:44 RoaryTiger I have no idea whats TF2
23:44 RoaryTiger Team Fortress 2?
23:44 Raven262 Yes.
23:44 RoaryTiger Still not idea what's the game about
23:44 ChocolateMann RoaryTiger, one minute 18 seconds of it
23:44 Raven262 Its about shooting, killing, taunting and pyroland.
23:44 Mr_Pardison RoaryTiger: same.
23:45 Mr_Pardison sounds like hell to me.
23:45 Raven262 No, pyroland is nice :)
23:45 Mr_Pardison fine.
23:45 Mr_Pardison sounds like war to me, which has been described as hell.
23:46 Raven262 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUhOnX8qt3I
23:46 Raven262 example
23:46 Raven262 Thats one of the classes you can play as.
23:47 Raven262 They are not all as sick
23:47 Raven262 :)
23:47 * Mr_Pardison does like fire.....
23:47 Mr_Pardison I recently whittled myself a fuzz/feather stick.
23:48 Grandolf joined #minetest-hub
23:48 Mr_Pardison yes.
23:49 ChocolateMann 24 immortal manics killing each other over a box canyon in the desert and every so often dancing in a conga line...
23:49 Mr_Pardison because flamethrowers should be shooting rainbows.
23:49 ChocolateMann now that I describe it it does sound a bit like hell
23:49 ChocolateMann like who would dance the Conga, it can always be replaced by a better dance
23:50 Raven262 Yea, conga is like 20 ref now.
23:50 Raven262 There are more expensive ones out there, better ones
23:50 Raven262 xD
23:50 Mr_Pardison like ballroom dancing to the sounds of hell.
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23:56 ChocolateMann wb unk
23:59 RoaryTiger aello Aello

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