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01:00 Calinou happy DST! :D
01:20 VanessaE LazyJ: actually, that's my late husband's hand, not mine.
01:21 * LazyJ is getting forgetful and senile.
01:23 VanessaE (we went with his hand because it was more gnarled and beat-up than mine.
01:23 VanessaE (and yeah, the extrusion "stripes" on the right look ugly.  can't fix.
01:23 VanessaE )
01:24 benrob0329 If I let my hand's go without lotion in the winter, they'll look pretty bad :P
01:25 benrob0329 if we had animations (like frames to be gone through as you punch) we could fix some of the issues
01:26 benrob0329 (like having a gun shoot, or a fist punch)
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09:16 Raven262 !ping
09:16 ShadowBot pong
09:16 Raven262 !c 3 + 8
09:16 ShadowBot Raven262: math calc <math expression>
09:17 Raven262 !c 3+8
09:17 ShadowBot Raven262: math calc <math expression>
09:17 Raven262 Odd
09:19 Krock Raven262, MTB isn't here. SB likes another command format:
09:19 Krock ~math calc 2 + 5
09:19 ShadowBot Krock: 7
09:19 Krock now that's odd.
09:20 Raven262 So thats how it works
09:20 Raven262 ~math calc 3 ^ 8
09:20 ShadowBot Raven262: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
09:20 Raven262 ~math calc 3 * 8
09:20 ShadowBot Raven262: 24
09:20 Raven262 ~math calc 3 ** 8
09:20 ShadowBot Raven262: 6561
09:20 Raven262 Ah.
09:21 Krock ~math calc ln(20 + 31 ** (1/3))
09:21 ShadowBot Krock: Error: 'ln' is not a defined function.
09:22 Krock ~math calc math.log(20 + 31 ** (1/3))
09:22 ShadowBot Krock: Error: 'math' is not a defined function.
09:23 Raven262 ~math calc 3 ** (1/2)
09:23 ShadowBot Raven262: 1.7320508075688772
09:23 Raven262 ~math calc -1 ** (1/2)
09:23 ShadowBot Raven262: -1
09:25 nerzhul !c 7589 ** 447778899554
09:25 ShadowBot nerzhul: math calc <math expression>
09:26 nerzhul ~math calc 7589 ** 447778899554
09:26 ShadowBot nerzhul: Error: The answer exceeded 1.7976931348623157e+308 or so.
09:26 nerzhul ~math calc 0 / 0
09:26 ShadowBot nerzhul: Error: float division by zero
09:26 nerzhul ~math calc 789 ** 998753 / 0
09:26 ShadowBot nerzhul: Error: The answer exceeded 1.7976931348623157e+308 or so.
09:26 nerzhul WRONG
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09:27 Krock ~math calc log(20 + 31 ** (1/3))
09:27 ShadowBot Krock: 3.141622385171088
09:29 Raven262 ~math calc 1/0
09:29 ShadowBot Raven262: Error: float division by zero
09:30 Raven262 ~math calc 6 ** 3/0
09:30 ShadowBot Raven262: Error: float division by zero
09:30 Krock * #minetest-hub is now know as #minetest-shadowbot-testing
09:31 Krock ~math calc log(0)
09:31 ShadowBot Krock: Error: math domain error
09:31 Krock ah, too bad.
09:33 Raven262 ~math calc (-1 ** (1/2)) ** 2
09:33 ShadowBot Raven262: 1
09:33 Raven262 Well, this contradicts the first one.
09:33 Raven262 ~math calc -1 ** (1/2)
09:33 ShadowBot Raven262: -1
09:33 Raven262 Or not
09:34 Krock ~math calc (-1) ** (1/2)
09:34 ShadowBot Krock: i
09:35 Krock FTFY
09:35 Raven262 Ahhhhh
09:35 Raven262 Forgot a bracket, heh
09:35 Krock but I'm surprised that ShadowBot/python knows about imaginary numbers
09:36 Krock s/imaginary/complex/
09:36 Raven262 Last time i checked it didn't.
09:36 Krock maybe it's bluffing
09:37 Raven262 ~math calc ((-1) ** (1/2)) ** 4
09:37 ShadowBot Raven262: 1
09:37 Raven262 ~math calc ((-1) ** (1/2)) ** 3
09:37 Krock ~math calc 1 / (2 * pi * sqrt(-1))
09:37 ShadowBot Krock: -0.15915494309189535i
09:37 ShadowBot Raven262: -i
09:37 Raven262 Nope, it knows.
09:38 Krock heh, not bad :3
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11:25 Krock well done, programmers. https://i.redd.it/qnbomgmlgnuz.jpg
11:30 Raven262 *insert relevant xkcd*
11:31 Fixer i still have those so called 3icons o
11:32 Fixer i still have those so called 3'5 icons on my shelf*
11:32 Fixer 3.5"*
11:32 Fixer 3,5"**
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12:21 Megaf There's Microsoft Edge for Android npw
12:21 Krock Internet Explorer, the 2nd generation
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12:29 Megaf https://play.google.com/store/ap​ps/details?id=com.microsoft.emmx
12:29 Megaf Microsoft Edge for Android ^
12:30 Megaf They must be really desperate to get more adopters in the desktop
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12:51 Fixer Megaf: does it have AD BLOCK?
12:53 Krock not sure but it has telemetry!
12:58 Megaf 5 letters nicknames are for the greatest only. However, only if starts with a capital letter
12:59 ThomasMonroe :O, what about my other Nick?
12:59 Megaf Fixer, Krock, Megaf, Shara, all good geeks :P
12:59 Megaf Tre, is your name actually Thomas Monroe?
13:00 Tre to an extent yes
13:01 Megaf Tre, theres's two letters missing from this name...
13:01 Tre your's or mine?
13:02 Megaf [Off topic, very off topic] <- If you are Christian you might want to join #Jesus [/end of Off Topic]
13:02 Megaf Dont want to convert anyone, it's just public information
13:02 Megaf ThomasMonroe, I like "ThomasMonroe" nick
13:03 Megaf or any well written nick using capitals
13:03 ThomasMonroe the other one I made was: TMcSquared
13:03 Megaf That'd be too "messy" for me
13:04 Megaf messy is a terrible choice of word for that by the way
13:04 Megaf TMcSquared is not smooth...
13:04 Megaf the angles are too sharp
13:04 Megaf that's what I mean
13:04 ThomasMonroe ah ok, well I like it bcs it uses my initials and it is a variation of E=mc^2
13:04 ThomasMonroe yeah I see where you're coming from
13:05 Megaf E=MxC²
13:05 ThomasMonroe E=m*c^2
13:05 Megaf not sure about the capitals, just wanted to write ²
13:05 ThomasMonroe X)
13:05 Megaf alt gr + shift + 2
13:11 Megaf I'm quite curious about Edge on Android
13:11 Megaf I think I will install it
13:12 Megaf lol, it wants to read my SMS, location and contacts
13:12 ThomasMonroe lol
13:12 Calinou Firefox on Android is still the only one which can block all ads/trackers without root
13:12 Megaf of course, I have Skype already reading all my data...
13:13 Megaf Calinou, I have Firefox Nightly on Android
13:13 Calinou it's slower than the competition, but I prefer slow ad-free browsing to fast browsing with ads
13:13 Calinou me too
13:13 ThomasMonroe Calinou I accidentally left the Minetest team, could you send me an invite again?
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13:14 Calinou ThomasMonroe: can't you request an invite again?
13:16 Megaf DuckDuckGo, Firefox Nightly and Google Chrome are the browsers I have now
13:16 Megaf on my phone
13:16 Megaf Used to use Opera Mini and Opera a lot
13:16 Megaf that is, the Opera "Classic*
13:16 Megaf before they got bloated with ads and adnotifications
13:17 Megaf Opera Mini now a days it's as slow as Firefox on my phone
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13:18 Calinou Opera Mini lacks a ton of HTML5 support features
13:18 Calinou just look at caniuse, it's depressing
13:19 ThomasMonroe hmm it says I am already on the team, but I don't know if I am in it on your end
13:20 Megaf Microsoft Edge on my Android phone https://imgur.com/gallery/qgybB
13:23 Calinou yeah, The Edge is better :P
13:35 Calinou https://media.hugo.pro/xon​otic20171029142600-00.png
13:35 Calinou professional Xonotic deathmatching
13:35 Calinou heh, I just noticed the PNG screenshots Xonotic takes are progressive
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13:38 Megaf Calinou, slightly addicted you are, are you not?
13:39 Megaf Calinou, don't you prefer UT2004?
13:39 Megaf for me UT 2004 is one of the best games ever
13:41 Megaf Calinou, If I do apt search xonotic the package manager says...
13:42 Megaf "darkplaces/testing,unstable,unstable 0~20140513+svn12208-5 amd64
13:42 Megaf Game engine for Quake and similar 3D first person shooter games
13:42 Megaf "
13:42 Megaf darkplaces?
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13:43 Megaf anyway, isntalling Nexuiz
13:44 * jas_ shudders
13:44 jas_ i liked xonotic alright, i got a kick outta the vehicles
13:46 jas_ and saw some great matches during some online tourney
13:46 jas_ (duel.)
13:48 Fixer on android - use firefox + ublock origin
13:48 jas_ i don't believe i ever once tried unreal, probably avoided it heavily
13:49 Calinou Megaf: I only played a bit of UT2004
13:49 Calinou also, Xonotic is cool :p
13:49 Calinou Megaf: Xonotic isn't in Debian packages because of politics :P
13:49 Calinou so you gotta download from xonotic.org
13:49 jas_ still active i take it?  mmm, xonotic.  i love quake and i played qtest in 95, but i prefer idtech3
13:50 * jas_ looks down at quake3 t-shirt current on
13:50 jas_ yep
13:50 jas_ i quit video games when quake2 came out, though.  and didn't played quake3 until quakelive beta was available for linux
14:00 Calinou I wasn't born in 1995 :P
14:00 Calinou I never played QTest
14:01 Calinou I'd get a Quake tshirt if I found one that wasn't too expensive
14:01 Calinou jas_: QL no longer supports Linux natively :(
14:01 Calinou it works OK on WINE
14:02 Calinou but sound quality is worse, and sound latency is higher, for some reason
14:07 jas_ as you know, lag kills quake
14:07 jas_ it was pretty bad when i last tested, not playable imo.  i forget what, but it was frustrating.  probably input lag.
14:07 jas_ i have a couple of them, they were gifts
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14:09 jas_ or, lag at least kills duels.  spikes, i mean, or jitters.  i can do 50-100 ms net lag alright
14:09 IhrFussel Regarding ad-block on Android: There are many browser that can block any kind of ads on websites... I personally use XBrowser
14:10 IhrFussel It's very small, lightweight an fast
14:10 IhrFussel and*
14:10 IhrFussel I don't care about all those features the big browsers offer on phone...it just makes them extremely fat (15+ MB)
14:12 Krock wget and read the source code. No rendering cost
14:13 Calinou jas_: I've always had more input lag/stuttering on Linux, compared to Windows :(
14:14 Calinou also I couldn't disable mouse acceleration entirely on Manjaro KDE
14:14 Calinou (I never understood why)
14:14 jas_ not me, i used a custom kernel and a flat profile when that was introduced, and before that zero accel anyway (not counting the hardware in the mouse)
14:14 jas_ you can use a "flat" profile in xorg now
14:15 jas_ and i would do straight quakelive, not a window manager or at least openbox
14:15 Calinou "xset m 0 0" didn't work for me
14:16 Calinou I can't live without compositing now :(
14:16 Calinou desktops are really ugly without it
14:16 Calinou unfortunately, that introduces a lot of latency on Linux
14:16 Calinou but on Windows it's fine (compositing cannot be disabled there anymore)
14:19 jas_ well you can have the program take the screen over, which disabled compositing (depending on the software, ezquake does this i believe)
14:19 jas_ i like a little mouse accel
14:20 jas_ i do alt-f11 for fullscreen in gnome.  i believe the compositing is disabled when a program is fullscreen, as it feels smoother.  dunno tho ; D
14:22 shivajiva Gnome Shell & Cinnamon still have issues with performance. They don't disable compositing and unredirect much of the time unless I'm mistaken
14:22 jas_ it feels that it works in minetest, but i dunno really i have to test
14:22 Calinou compositing suspension doesn't work that well in my experience
14:23 Calinou Xonotic does it, but when you alt-tab away, compositing is still disabled
14:23 jas_ i'm just using this gnome that came with debian 9 :O
14:23 Calinou which makes for a bad desktop experience
14:23 jas_ oh.
14:23 Calinou we've had hype about Linux gaming for 5 years now, and this is still not solved :(
14:23 Calinou ~~Wayland, come save us~~
14:23 jas_ i dunno, i just ran quakelive on my quakebox and nothing els
14:24 jas_ well when i went to steam i was excited, because of steamos... but it didn't matter, bethesda had no interest
14:25 jas_ i don't know about linux gaming, anymore than a linux desktop
14:25 * jas_ whistles along
14:27 IhrFussel I get the feeling quite a few players are trying to fool me...my server has a "1 account per person" rule and several IPs now have new accounts stating they are "brother" or "sister"
14:28 Krock >= two children per family aren't that rare
14:28 IhrFussel Really not easy to enforce such a rule with MT's auth system
14:29 IhrFussel Yes but some players now suddenly have siblings apparently...after months
15:16 Fixer Calinou: Wayland: I will save you in next 10 years, I promise
16:05 benrob0329 Fixer: Wayland: I'll leave out what was good about my predecessor but make the same mistakes
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17:10 Megaf Will totally buy a "new" Motorola Razr V3 as soon as start working again.
17:10 Megaf https://www.ebay.ie/sch/i.html?_from=R40&amp;_sa​cat=0&amp;LH_BIN=1&amp;_sop=15&amp;_nkw=%22motor​ola%20razr%22&amp;_dcat=9355&amp;rt=nc&amp;LH_It​emCondition=1000%7C1500%7C2000&amp;Model=Motorol​a%2520RAZR%2520V3%7CMotorola%2520RAZR%2520V3i
17:11 Megaf Maybe a green  one, or Pink, or Purple
17:11 Megaf Purple
17:11 Megaf http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Motorola-Razr-V3​-Factory-Unlock-Classic-Retro-Flip-Cell​ular-Phone-9-colors/272481714034?hash=i​tem3f712cff72:m:mNeia5GMW2POwRWDkCzkDow
17:11 Megaf look at that!
17:13 benrob0329 Megaf: do those things still work?
17:14 benrob0329 I suppose they were after the digital switchover..but dang they are old at this point
17:14 Megaf they still work yep
17:14 Megaf they support GPRS
17:14 Megaf and they are Quadband, that means it will works mostly anywhere
17:15 Megaf I had a V3 Black, with Opera Mini
17:15 Megaf it was just perfect
17:16 benrob0329 If by perfect you mean slow, sure
17:17 Megaf by perfect I mean, works all the time
17:17 Megaf no crashes, no slow downs
17:18 benrob0329 How can you slow down when your processor is already pinned?
17:19 benrob0329 Its going to be 2G, outdated and will have barely enough RAM to load Google
17:20 Megaf As I say to everybody. It all depends on what you want
17:21 Krock Rbwy, swap b and w and you'd be a web animation project
17:21 Rbnwy Megaf, like this?
17:21 Megaf I want several days of battery, I want music, I want to make and receive calls and texts, I want it to be slim and stylish. I want it to work, 100% of the time.
17:21 Rbnwy brb, registering the domain]
17:21 Megaf V3 tickes all boxes
17:22 Shara He wants to be counted among the greatest :)
17:22 rBNWY or like this?
17:22 Shara No comment
17:22 Megaf Rubey would be just optimal
17:22 Krock why not rueay
17:23 benrob0329 Megaf: I don't think you'll be real happy with its music capabilities
17:23 Megaf benrob0329, play, pouse, skip fwd, and back
17:23 Megaf that's it
17:23 benrob0329 Space
17:23 benrob0329 Quality
17:23 Megaf And, it wouldn't be my main phone, of couse
17:23 Megaf course*
17:24 benrob0329 Headphones that arent using a 2.5mm jack
17:24 Megaf I'd have another phone with me
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17:24 rubenwardy right, I'm done
17:24 Krock inb4 _xX_Ruben_Xx_
17:24 benrob0329 Its your money, obviously, but i'm just trying to say its not as blissful as you remember
17:24 Megaf benrob0329, V3i has micro sdcard
17:25 benrob0329 Very well
17:25 Megaf And there was a version that shipped with iTunes...
17:26 benrob0329 Lets not forget SprintTV :-)
17:28 Megaf I'm not sure which phone will be my next main phone tho
17:28 benrob0329 Megaf: I have a Razer sitting in a box in the garage
17:28 benrob0329 Librem 5 ;-)
17:28 Megaf If it was 2014 it'd be some from the line Moto Droid
17:29 Megaf I have a XT890 currently
17:29 Megaf that's the Razr I
17:29 Megaf I just love it's design and durability
17:30 Megaf battery still lasts a day or two. Survived 3 Bike vs car crashes, survived been thrown on purpose to concrete floor, twice
17:30 Megaf Survived getting hit by a car door several times, when trying to close the door with phone hanging in the jacket pocket
17:31 Megaf I had at least 3 nokias and other phones, all died/broken in the same time frame
17:31 Megaf and My XT890 has Intel CPU, is rooter and I can run Debian on it
17:31 Megaf rooted*
17:33 Megaf Maybe I will get a Motorola DROID 4 XT894
17:33 Megaf it has full Querty keyboard and can run Android 7
17:40 Natechip Megaf: ODROID is nice
17:40 Natechip wait
17:40 Natechip wrong topic here nvm
17:41 Megaf Natechip, Agree, I have an ODroid U3 :)
17:42 Natechip Megaf: i still cant set up an os on it! XD
17:44 Megaf Oo
17:44 Natechip its kinda weird
17:44 Megaf you just download the image, dd to the sd card and boot
17:44 Natechip yes but u cant do an iso which stucks
17:45 Megaf of course not, it's not a computer
17:45 Megaf Natechip, and it's not x86 either
17:45 Natechip ik
17:46 Natechip but still
17:46 Natechip i plan on running a minetest server on it maybe
17:46 Megaf whats the odroid you have?
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17:47 Megaf Hi Jordach
17:48 Natechip XU4 Megadf
17:48 Natechip Megaf*
17:49 Megaf That's a good one
17:49 Megaf Natechip, you can use the community images from the forum
17:49 Megaf for Debian
17:49 Megaf and other distros
17:49 Megaf or
17:49 Megaf https://www.armbian.com/odroid-xu4/
17:50 Natechip ubuntu server would be nice
17:50 Natechip ill see if i can find
17:50 Natechip and ya i have the maxed out spec one
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17:55 Megaf Natechip, one cool thing to do is getting some XU4s, like 20 or so. And making a build farm with them, to compile software
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18:05 Natechip they arelike 50$ us
18:05 Natechip US*
18:05 Natechip that would be $1000 :P
18:06 Natechip im ganna run a mySQL server on one I think, and a data server on a HC1
18:09 Natechip Megaf ^
18:12 Natechip eh im out
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18:26 Megaf Where can I upload a mp3 I just made and have no rights on it?
18:26 Megaf is there a pastebin like thing?
18:27 sfan5 just any file host
18:27 Megaf sfan5, lol, indeed
18:27 Megaf sometimes I forget I have my private git server
18:27 VanessaE dropbox or the like
18:27 VanessaE or git, or torrent
18:28 Megaf Thinking about using this as ringtone http://git.megaf.info/Megaf/GitPast​e/raw/master/Hello%20Moto%20New.mp3
18:28 VanessaE soundcloud if you have the legal right to share the file
18:29 Megaf I don't :)
18:30 Megaf I think I dont
18:31 Megaf I extracted the audio from a Motorola ad and converted to mp3 using audacity
18:31 VanessaE depends on how much you used, might be "fair use" or "fair dealing", as your country's laws may apply
18:32 VanessaE (I don't remember where you are)
18:32 Megaf right in the feelings
18:33 Megaf just kidding
18:33 Megaf I'm in Ireland
18:33 Megaf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoiHLMgpmJ8
18:33 Megaf that's the video
18:34 Megaf But I'm actually searching for a high quality Hello Moto ringtone
18:37 Megaf maybe this is my next primary phone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZOfYo4JDIw
18:39 Megaf Or the new version of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2l7sXhT540
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18:43 Megaf Nah, Motorola G5 Plus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DlNrCZFNGo
18:44 Megaf That'd be my main phone
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18:48 Megaf Oh, no NFC
18:48 Megaf no way
18:48 Megaf My old Razr I has NFC and Android Pay
18:49 rubenwardy monzo got Android Pay the other day
18:49 rubenwardy was well excited
18:49 Megaf I cant actually use Android Pay, it detects my phone is rooted...
18:51 Megaf Moto X4 looks like a nice phone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpXO4d6prj0
18:51 Megaf Too bad all these flagships now a days look the same
18:52 Megaf 2 TB microSD card support, wow
19:09 Megaf I have absolutelly no idea what's my Facebook password
19:09 Megaf I'm not even sure what's my username
19:34 Fixer KILLER FEATURE https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6568
19:36 Fixer rubenwardy: how is that conference?
19:36 Krock An support Initial support...
19:36 Krock A Haiku Minetestinto the Haiku,
19:36 Krock Haiku! Haiku again.
19:36 Krock weird haiku generators..
19:50 rubenwardy Fixer: very good
19:51 rubenwardy The Freenode staff were very nicw
19:51 rubenwardy Much of the visitors too
19:51 rubenwardy That Shara however....
19:52 Krock Did Shara happened?
19:53 rubenwardy She did
19:54 rubenwardy And has now stolen the phone
19:54 rubenwardy As for that rubenwardy...
19:55 shivajiva lol o/
19:55 rubenwardy It has been good
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22:24 Fixer noice schtoile "The BBC is reporting a security probe after security data about Heathrow was discovered on a USB found on the street"
22:28 nerzhul sfan5, i think linter wants to align \ with max line chars
22:29 sfan5 o.O
22:29 nerzhul it's not crazy but i never see a such thing
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22:48 Fixer activity *,,,,*
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23:10 benrob0329 Megaf: You can upload files directly to rooms on matrix :P
23:50 Megaf hah
23:51 * benrob0329 uploaded an image: file1509321099353.jpg (164KB) <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/down​load/matrix.org/HMlSWsaAQzyvDGDwfKhOXrIq>
23:51 benrob0329 See?
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23:54 Megaf lol
23:54 Megaf technically it's not uploaded to the room
23:54 benrob0329 It is for matrix
23:54 benrob0329 IRC just gets the link to the file in the room
23:55 sofar rubenwardy: stolen the phone? lol
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