Time Nick Message 00:03 shivajiva sauth import routine fixed, silly me trying to get the length of a non integer indexed table with # 00:07 shivajiva fixed a crash in sban also, update if you're using it :) 09:50 Megaf Hi all 09:53 CALINOU hi :) 09:54 Megaf CALINOU, I see you've been eating lots of croissants 09:55 Megaf You gained some weight 09:55 CALINOU it's caps lock day! 09:55 CALINOU (again) 09:55 Megaf ah 09:56 MEGAF Raven262, shivajiva, quick, caps lock your name 09:58 MEGAF CALINOU, SHOUDLN'T WE BE SCREAMING THEN? 09:59 MEGAF By the way, I used to have a couple of croissants with coffee for breakfast almost every day couple months ago 09:59 MEGAF with butter 10:00 MEGAF routine was getting up, getting dressed or having shower, crossing the road to the local market and buying croissants for breakfast 10:02 CALINOU I don't eat croissants or the like anymore 10:03 MEGAF me neither :P 10:03 MEGAF I might make bread today tho 10:10 shivajiva I do like almond croissants dusted in icing sugar 10:12 shivajiva HI MEGAF, CALINOU, RAVEN262 :P 10:12 MEGAF hm, this month is my 10th year anniversary with GMail 10:13 MEGAF I mean, this year 10:13 MEGAF it was a month or two ago 10:13 MEGAF When I got GMail I had been using Freenode for one year already 10:14 shivajiva and what salubrious gift did they send for your loyalty? 10:14 MEGAF lots of GBs 10:14 MEGAF and a fantastic support team 10:14 shivajiva os spam lol 10:14 MEGAF I had to contact the support a couple of times and it was always awesome 10:14 CALINOU I no longer used GMail since early 2014 /p 10:14 MEGAF shivajiva, they filter the spam for me 10:14 CALINOU :p* 10:15 MEGAF meh, I actually have active emails in lots of places 10:15 MEGAF outlook, yahoo, gmail 10:15 CALINOU I was on OpenMailBox until July 2017, before they removed IMAP access from free accounts 10:15 CALINOU now I'm using Gandi email on my own domain 10:15 CALINOU 1 GB only, but it's enough 10:15 shivajiva I think most of do 10:15 CALINOU (OpenMailBox was 1 GB as well) 10:16 MEGAF I had my own email server and even my own cloud stack in the past 10:16 MEGAF but meh, not worth it 10:16 CALINOU the email is hosted by Gandi 10:16 CALINOU not myself 10:16 CALINOU that removes a lot of the hassle :P 10:16 shivajiva shame tormail didn't last 10:18 CALINOU it's a shame email still flies unencrypted over the Internet, too 10:18 CALINOU GPG failed its mission :/ 10:19 shivajiva email is more like a postcard than a letter, everyone can read it 10:21 CALINOU yeah 10:21 CALINOU we're finally adopting secure-by-default design 10:21 CALINOU but that wasn't the case 20 years ago :P 10:22 shivajiva and a 2048 bit keypair is worthless these days apparently 10:22 MEGAF Yesterday I finally encrypted my / 10:22 MEGAF with 256 bit serpent encryption 10:23 MEGAF I do want to make my own cloud one day, fully encrypted 10:24 shivajiva I stopped doing encrypted system when I departed the MS camp, should I consider it for nix? 10:29 shivajiva given the trouble mounting and recovering data from an encrypted home partition on OS change was recently, I'm not driven towards encrypting data that isn't sensitive 10:33 MEGAF if you have a browser, and email, your data is sensitive 10:34 MEGAF I can control your life from a forgotten email cookie 10:34 MEGAF if I get access to you email, I get access to your Facebook, whatsapp, electricity bills and so on 10:35 CALINOU shivajiva: 2048-bit is still decent today 10:35 CALINOU 4096-bit is a bit better, but not much 10:35 MEGAF shivajiva, and on Debian at least, to regain access to encrypted disk after formating or even during recovery is as easy as typing the password when it askes for it 10:35 CALINOU https://xkcd.com/538 applies, though 10:36 CALINOU MEGAF: password dialogs still don't understand non-QWERTY layouts, IIRC 10:36 CALINOU with LUKS 10:36 MEGAF well, Im using LUKS and my keyboard is qwerty 10:36 MEGAF so Im fine 10:36 MEGAF :P 10:38 CALINOU I'm pretty sure BitLocker understands them 10:38 CALINOU I never used full disk encryption anyway 10:38 CALINOU I should (the performance penalty isn't noticeable on a SSD and a CPU with hardware AES), but meh 10:39 MEGAF CALINOU, I had only my home encrypted 10:39 CALINOU you can do that, yeah 10:39 CALINOU but who knows, your lewd data is maybe in /opt 10:39 MEGAF then the guys at ##linux told me this was not enough, because something could just get access to / and temper with luks or whatever 10:39 CALINOU that portable build of an open source game downloaded custom maps with lewd pictures, maybe :^) 10:40 MEGAF besides, if your swap is not encrypted, then encryption is useless 10:40 MEGAF considering someone really wants to get access to your data 10:42 MEGAF oh boy, for the first time in 6 or 7 years I forgot to wish happy birthday to my ex girlfriend 10:43 MEGAF Meh, she never said thanks anyway. So who cares 10:44 CALINOU you right now: http://users.kymp.net/feuer/etcomic/055.jpg 10:44 MEGAF hah 10:45 MEGAF I used to spend days playing WOLFET 10:45 MEGAF my record was like 3 days no stop 10:46 MEGAF "I am an engineer!" 10:46 MEGAF need medic 10:46 CALINOU that game was the shit in the 2000s 10:46 CALINOU "too hipster for Counter-Strike? play Wolf:ET!" 10:47 MEGAF I used to play Quake Wars too, man, those graphics were impressive back in the day 10:47 MEGAF and of course, Medal of Honour 11:36 Krock Not bad. colors.txt being 470 kB large.. plenty of node colors :) 12:52 CALINOU Krock: time to introduce CaaS, Colors.txt as a Service 12:52 CALINOU an API returning a node's color 12:52 CALINOU $0.01 per retrieval 13:09 rubenwardy https://i.rubenwardy.com/3s0tn952vA.png 13:09 rubenwardy WHY ALL THE SHOUTING? 13:11 Raven262 Is it strange if I didn't manage to understand that text, rubenwardy? 13:11 rubenwardy the image is a forum PM 13:12 Raven262 Yea Ik 13:12 Raven262 What written in it though 13:12 Raven262 Seems unreadable :P 13:13 rubenwardy translation: "How do I become a mod[erator on your server], are the[re] spots left or not. I'm on a lot. I [won't] abuse ban. If I do [ban] I promise to follow the rules." 13:13 Raven262 Thanks. 13:14 Raven262 I seriously needed that. 13:15 Raven262 Everybody thinking of how to gain power on the servers, not many actually knowing the weight of that power :P 13:18 rubenwardy *House of Cards theme plays* 13:24 rubenwardy as a general rule, I'm not going to give privileges to people a) I don't know and b) ask for them 13:26 Raven262 I'm one of the admins on Craig's server. And I would refuse to be admin on any other server. Too much work. 13:28 rubenwardy CTF is easy as there's no persistent map 13:28 rubenwardy this means there's no real community, so arguments are minimal 13:29 rubenwardy just lots of hacking claims 13:29 Raven262 Ah 13:29 rubenwardy which go straight to the trash 13:29 Raven262 Its not really hard to make a client which allows you to fly :P 13:30 rubenwardy yeah, if I'm online at the time I go on to the server as an alias and watch them 13:30 rubenwardy 9/10 they're not flying 13:30 rubenwardy so far at least 13:31 rubenwardy need to investigate anticheat 13:36 Krock rubenwardy, can i has fly pls 13:36 Raven262 no ban just fly 13:36 Raven262 pls pls pls 13:36 Raven262 xD 13:36 rubenwardy the first thing I said when joining Redcat was "give me admin pls" 13:37 Krock ^ my alternative text 13:37 rubenwardy one of Shara's moderators didn't like that very much 13:37 Krock /give username admin 13:37 Shara :D 13:37 Raven262 Still better that that guy over at Craig's, spams in Greek the whole chat log, after that uses Google translate to contact admins. And I'm like wtf? 13:38 rubenwardy tempted to make privs called fkick and fban which actually do those things on the caller instead 13:38 Shara rubenwardy: there's reasons I keep tweaking my "curses" mod to use against players... 13:38 rubenwardy I'm not quite that troll level though 13:38 Krock great idea :3 13:39 lisac I'm one of the admins on Craig's server. And I would refuse to be admin on any other server. Too much work. 13:39 lisac awesome, I think more people should take this stance 13:39 lisac more admin positions for the good lisac. 13:39 Raven262 ^He doesn't do all the work. 13:39 lisac hey hey I'm helping! 13:39 Raven262 A lot 13:39 Shara Raven262: don't worry. I sometimes refuse to admin on my own servers, and inform my moderator team I'm on strike and it's up to them :D 13:39 Raven262 Seriously 13:40 Raven262 lol Shara 13:40 * lisac says something about making his own server with Blackjack and hookers. 13:40 Raven262 :P 13:41 lisac https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l3ipKcnYlQ 13:41 Raven262 Craig isn't really there most of the time, so Craig's server is moderated by us admins, completely. 13:41 Raven262 We do occasionally hire people to do some jobs for us, like cleaning up areas. 13:42 Shara Just made a sneak mode switcher command for subtle messing with annoying players :) 13:42 lisac Shara, randomly revoke interact, and grant it 10 seconds later when player starts reporting it 13:43 Shara I already have commands to disable map and jumping and so on on a per-player basis 13:43 * lisac makes a note to never play on Shara's server 13:43 lisac sorry :) 13:44 Shara I rarely use them. 13:44 Shara It's reserved for players who are super annoying but don't quite deserve a ban 13:45 Shara My end goal is actually looking at status effects and debuffs and things 13:46 lisac why not just ban them? 13:46 Shara Because sometimes people can learn and I try not to be completely evil. 13:47 Shara It;'s like asking why do people kick instead of ban, or why do people use jail mods 13:49 Raven262 Oh yeah, I completely forgot that i can actually kick players. 13:49 lisac Yes: but I don't get it how could behavior be annoying enough to force a player to leave due to incredible retardation, but not enough to just kick/ban him? 13:50 Shara It's entirely possible they don't realise their behaviour is undesirable, or just don't care about it, until they see it has consequences. 13:51 Shara It's totally fine if you never want to play on my servers because I don't take the same approach to handling players that you do though. 14:11 Megaf Downloading Windows 10 Enterprise for evaluation 14:11 Megaf Let see how it is 14:11 Megaf I hated the Home and Pro editions 14:11 Megaf and I tested the home and pro N 14:12 Megaf in the Pro N there was some not useful xbox things for example, and it is impossible to uninstall 14:27 Krock Fox news about GitHub: https://i.redd.it/yikh4co7r6tz.jpg 14:29 rubenwardy jesus christ 14:30 rubenwardy the first one is the only one that resembles the truth 14:30 Megaf that really hurts, reading that 14:31 Megaf common, you don't need to be a "computer expert" to see that "reposotory" is wrong 14:38 Krock rubenwardy, out of interest.. what did that NewbProg comment in the ItemStack PR? 14:38 rubenwardy merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge merge 14:38 Krock ah. that explains it. thanks. 15:04 CALINOU Krock: haha, Faux News at its best :P 15:04 Krock ^^ switched to caps lock lately, btw? 15:05 RUBENWARDY H Y P E 15:05 RED-001 IS IT CAPS DAY? 15:05 RUBENWARDY YES 15:05 RUBENWARDY NO CAPS PLEASE 15:05 RED-001 OK 15:06 RED-001 LOL FOX NEEWWSS 15:08 Krock that hype was way too short IMO 15:09 Krock why does "NEWS" contain all directions but "compass" doesn't? 15:09 CALINOU https://i.redd.it/fy1txtyenctz.png 15:09 FAIR_AND_BALANCE let the hype continue 15:09 CALINOU a must-have for today's communication 15:09 CALINOU because copying ASCII faces requires ads ;) 15:09 Krock > ASCII 15:09 Krock > using unicode characters 15:10 IhrFussel Hi guys 15:10 Krock hi IhrFussel 15:10 CALINOU https://i.redd.it/mq3lpr1scctz.png 15:10 CALINOU how to store data 15:11 Krock looked at the last characters and almost wondered why you reposed it 15:11 CALINOU heh, yeah 15:11 CALINOU I often judge URLs by their last characters as well :P 15:11 sfan5 tip: domain names are case-insensitive so you can uppercase them 15:12 sfan5 HTTPS://GITHUB.COM/minetest/minetest 15:12 CALINOU the generator used for that meme is linkeda at the top: https://mat3e.github.io/brains/ 15:12 CALINOU sfan5: yeah 15:12 CALINOU HTTPS://GITHUB.COM/MINETEST/MINETEST 15:12 CALINOU even works :) 15:12 CALINOU (GitHub is case-insensitive) 15:13 Krock Minetest currently implements: 1 (postgres), 3 (API, serverlist), 7 (dummy) 15:13 FAIR_AND_BALANCE https://github.com/FAIR_AND_BALANCED 15:13 Krock CALINOU, you should start using LUA to code your mods 15:14 FAIR_AND_BALANCE YOU mean L.U.A right? 15:14 Krock HTTPS://GITHUB.COM/MNIIP/LUA 15:16 FAIR_AND_BALANCE can we add support to minetest for this? 15:22 Megaf why does "NEWS" contain all directions but "compass" doesn't? 15:22 Megaf mind blow 15:23 Krock Would fit well as a Macintosh Plus 420 comment 15:25 Megaf lol, LUA for of lua 15:25 Megaf lmao 15:25 Megaf because why not 15:48 Fixer MICROSOFT USES CAPS TOO NOW< IT IS TRA(E)NDY 17:01 Megaf Downgraded from vbox 5.2 to 5.1 17:01 Megaf I like 5.1 interfaces more 18:32 Fixer szooooo mooove 19:18 tenplus1 hi folks 19:19 Shara Hi tenplus1 19:19 tenplus1 hi Shara 19:19 tenplus1 hows things 19:19 Shara Not too bad thanks. You? 19:19 tenplus1 tired... will be away for a while after tonight 19:21 Shara Ohh, travels? 19:22 tenplus1 yeah, spain and poland 19:22 Shara Nice :D 19:24 tenplus1 it's a good trip.. I hear things on the news about spain 19:25 Shara How long are you gone for? 19:25 tenplus1 12 days total 19:28 tenplus1 lol, saw someone reference caverealms lite on xanadu forum... heh 19:28 Shara Yea... I guess they didn't read the actual thread they were linking... 19:29 Shara It only lists Xanadu as one of the servers that helped test it :P 19:29 tenplus1 ehehheheh 19:30 Shara I don't know why they are dropping links to it like that 19:30 Raven262 Hi ten 19:30 tenplus1 hi raven 19:31 tenplus1 hi Darcidride 19:31 Darcidride Hi 19:40 tenplus1 hi ben 19:43 Sokomine hmm. does anyone of you know which upstream a mt server requires? one server owner runs mineclone2 on a rather slow line. the result is massive lag even if just one player is connected 19:43 CalebDavis hi ten 19:43 tenplus1 hi caleb... hi sokomine 19:49 Sokomine hi ten 19:49 tenplus1 o/ 19:50 benrob0329 Hi tenplus1 19:50 tenplus1 :P 19:53 tenplus1 hi Aerozoic and Miner 19:53 Aerozoic wazup 19:54 Miner_48er hi 19:54 Aerozoic Any good news this weekend? 19:56 tenplus1 yeah, I has a good coffee :P 19:57 Aerozoic lol 19:58 Fixer Sokomine: maikerumine server? it is USA one, and it is probably running on his home PC 19:59 tenplus1 o/ Fixer 20:02 Fixer hi 20:22 Sokomine fixer: no, maikaumines servers usually run very fine, even though there are many hostile mobs around 20:23 tenplus1 nite folks... 20:41 Fixer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HuJK5nITyo 20:50 IhrFussel Sokomine, is the lag actually network lag or maybe server lag? Check max_lag in /status 20:50 Fixer testing loot 20:52 Fixer sfan5: string has no more uses, maybe use cotton for now? 20:52 Fixer sfan5: for loot 20:52 sfan5 it specifically picked string because it's so useless :D 20:53 Fixer hahah 20:53 Fixer stop trolling minetest_game 20:54 sfan5 cobwebs would also be a nice touch but i remember that idea being rejected previously 20:56 Fixer it is rejected first time, but can be accepted second time 20:59 Fixer sfan5: what about adding rails to loot? (somewhat silly) 21:00 sfan5 sounds reasonable 21:01 Fixer sfan5: btw 21:01 Fixer sfan5: i have huge suggestion 21:02 Fixer sfan5: i know for a fact - people on servers LOVE to use rock with ores intact (via mods), will be nice to have it as loot 21:02 sfan5 not sure if that's the right way 21:02 Fixer sfan5: for example, stone_with_diamond, it is used for decoration 21:03 sfan5 i'd rather have it the MC-way with a "special" pickaxe that keeps ores intact 21:03 Fixer could be, i even asked for that somewhere 21:03 Fixer for example, we have DUMB bronze tools, make it special or smth 21:04 sfan5 adding *just* stone_w_diamond would be fine, but making every ore findable as stone_with_* as loot, nah 21:05 Fixer sfan5: coal, copper, diamond, gold, iron, tin, mese :} 21:05 Fixer not too many, it can be rare 21:05 Fixer they are used for decor 21:05 Fixer but special pickaxe idea can be used too 21:06 Fixer i will move this to issue discussion 21:13 sfan5 Fixer: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/1921/commits/86af2815ac2997eb2f257a782bbab319fb013555 21:15 Fixer sfan5: what about hoes? 21:15 sfan5 pff usless 21:15 sfan5 nobody needs those 21:15 sfan5 having rare diamond hoes would be the ultimate troll 21:15 sfan5 but i decided for axes instead because those are useful 21:15 Fixer ok 21:17 Fixer sfan5: i see dirt in loot, silly idea: add dirt with rainforest litter, reason? there is no way to pick it up or generate it by hand, will be used for spawning jungle earth 21:17 CALINOU evening :) 21:17 Fixer CALINOU: HI 21:17 CALINOU pff usless 21:17 CALINOU nobody needs those 21:18 CALINOU someone on the forum once said, "I dont craft hoes I get them from clubs!" 21:18 Fixer sfan5: also, ladders, people uses them to little, time to encourage them 21:19 sfan5 ladders used to be in chests for heights > 48 21:19 sfan5 but i thought it was stupid 21:19 Fixer chest in loot chest! 21:20 sfan5 the chest itself is part of the loot too 21:20 Fixer oh right 21:21 sfan5 :D 21:21 Fixer sfan5: what about some healing stuff? like apple/bread 21:22 Fixer sfan5: in my defence - you need to unload whole fucking chest before taking it, and this mt aspect sucks, in mc you dig it and collect everything at once 21:22 Fixer is mt way more realistic? probably 21:23 Fixer dungeons spawn everywhere underground or near surface? 21:27 Fixer one of my favs games of all time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lazBEOE0FI8 21:28 sfan5 Fixer: everywhere underground 21:47 Fixer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHU4Ht42zO0 21:59 Fixer Minetest 0.5.0-dev under X800GTO, caves in darkness - https://i.imgur.com/jmqYGN8.png 22:02 Fixer sfan5: we are now 10 cantimeters clother to minecraft beta 22:04 Fixer closer* 22:04 Fixer my english is drunk 22:06 Fixer sfan5: buckets everywhere... 22:07 Fixer sfan5: just my luck 22:10 Fixer aaayyy, rare mese blck in loot 22:12 Fixer huge dungeon room https://i.imgur.com/T51skHM.png 22:12 Fixer with loot 22:13 Fixer sfan5: empty loot possible? 22:14 Fixer sfan5: it was also blocking stairs 22:20 Megaf So I copied the fonts from my Windows Server VM and installed WPS Office in my Linux box. Done, no need for Microsoft Office and Windows anymore, I'm actually quite impressed by how well WPS works, it's features and now with Windows Fonts all compatibility problems are over. 22:52 Sokomine Fixer: there's that nice ropebox based on vines. maybe that could be based on string from cotton and be included in mtg 22:53 Sokomine Fixer: doesn't help if decorative items are not available in the amount they are needed. players will either have to use a creative server or use another material 22:53 Natechip RIP my graphics ard 22:53 Natechip card 22:54 Natechip u know ur graphics card sucks when it cant use simplescreenrecorder 22:54 Natechip XD 22:56 benrob0329 Natechip: SSR uses the cpu 22:56 benrob0329 For encoding, anyways 22:56 Natechip u know ur cpu sucks when it cant use simplescreenrecorder 22:56 Natechip XD 23:00 benrob0329 #ObsMasterRace 23:02 Jordach i record my videos through the information directly off of the HDMI pins 23:02 Jordach it's so raw 23:03 CALINOU benrob0329: it can also make use of GPU encoding, but by default it only uses the CPU 23:03 * Jordach looks at RX 480 23:03 benrob0329 THANKS CALINOU 23:03 Jordach encoding i hear 23:03 JORDACH :^) 23:03 Calinou caps lock day is over here, by the way 23:03 benrob0329 NOW I KNOW 23:05 Jordach (^: 23:05 Jordach i know two thinigs 23:05 Jordach my wallet says yes to second gen VR headsets 23:06 Jordach and another PCI USB connector set 23:06 Jordach and maybe the RX 680 23:10 Jordach Calinou, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13Akuj9Xyk0&feature=youtu.be 23:15 Jordach benrob0329, currently full of salt 23:16 Jordach >logitech g29 wheel 23:16 Jordach >works in USB3 port 23:16 Jordach >stops working randomly 23:16 benrob0329 \>technology 23:16 Jordach when did PCI USB 2.0 ports end up being £20 23:17 benrob0329 When they stopped being $19 23:20 Jordach they used to be like £4 23:20 Jordach >has amazon student prime run out two months ago 23:20 Jordach >somehow prime student was called march 2016 23:20 Jordach student prime that went into full size prime 23:20 Jordach question is 23:21 Jordach i don't know *how* it became student again