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rubenwardy |
shivajiva, sban doesn't appear to work |
| 00:28 |
rubenwardy |
I banned someone, but then they can still join |
| 00:31 |
rubenwardy |
https://github.com/shivajiva101/sban/issues/2 |
| 00:33 |
rubenwardy |
gtg |
| 00:34 |
rubenwardy |
your permanent bans don't work, shivajiva! |
| 00:34 |
rubenwardy |
:) |
| 00:35 |
shivajiva |
check the log file and let me know what it says about the events pls |
| 00:35 |
Shara |
Hmm, might be the issue I had the other day? |
| 00:35 |
Shara |
We didn't actually check since I updated |
| 00:35 |
shivajiva |
possibly |
| 00:36 |
rubenwardy |
what do I grep for? |
| 00:36 |
rubenwardy |
it's a rather large log file |
| 00:36 |
shivajiva |
sban :P |
| 00:36 |
rubenwardy |
added to issue |
| 00:36 |
Shara |
rubenwardy: He has no ban record |
| 00:37 |
Shara |
Or so your bot tells me :P |
| 00:37 |
rubenwardy |
huh? |
| 00:37 |
rubenwardy |
cmd ban_record PotatoGuy ? |
| 00:37 |
Shara |
(1:36:39 AM) Shara: cmd ban_record PotatoGuy |
| 00:37 |
Shara |
(1:36:39 AM) CTF_Bot: No records for PotatoGuy |
| 00:37 |
rubenwardy |
I attached my result to the issue |
| 00:38 |
Shara |
Hmm, no records now though |
| 00:38 |
Shara |
But yea |
| 00:38 |
rubenwardy |
do you need ban_admin? |
| 00:38 |
Shara |
Looking at the issue, it's the problem I had |
| 00:38 |
Shara |
<CTF_Bot> [1] Unbanned by: sban Reason: ban expired Time: Mon 09 Oct 2017 12:21:53 AM UTC |
| 00:38 |
Shara |
The expiry date is off |
| 00:38 |
Shara |
And you should be able to get ban record without ban_admin, but ban_admin gives the IP address info |
| 00:39 |
rubenwardy |
<@rubenwardy> CTF_Bot, cmd tempban PotatoGuy 10y cheating |
| 00:39 |
rubenwardy |
<CTF_Bot> You must ban for at least 60 seconds. |
| 00:39 |
shivajiva |
okay I know what this is, the autoban expiry test is flawed |
| 00:39 |
rubenwardy |
<@rubenwardy> CTF_Bot, cmd tempban PotatoGuy 1000d cheating |
| 00:39 |
rubenwardy |
<CTF_Bot> Banned PotatoGuy until Mon 09 Oct 2017 12:55:57 AM UTC. |
| 00:40 |
shivajiva |
the mechanism unbanned him as it had expired even though it wasn't set |
| 00:40 |
Shara |
(think I typed an extra space somewhere to not get the record since I see it now... weird) |
| 00:40 |
rubenwardy |
used upper case D |
| 00:40 |
rubenwardy |
that's bad UX |
| 00:41 |
shivajiva |
the integer status of the field means it return 0 which is a number |
| 00:44 |
shivajiva |
change L1035 to... if type(data.expires) == "number" and data.expires ~= 0 then |
| 00:44 |
shivajiva |
should fix it |
| 00:45 |
shivajiva |
I'll test after some sleep |
| 00:45 |
rubenwardy |
restart queued |
| 00:45 |
rubenwardy |
thanks |
| 00:46 |
shivajiva |
clearly it is a number to get in the branch so excluding zero should catch it |
| 00:50 |
rubenwardy |
sauth/init.lua:25: attempt to call field 'open' (a nil value) |
| 00:50 |
rubenwardy |
very odd |
| 00:51 |
rubenwardy |
needed to update it |
| 00:51 |
rubenwardy |
for some reason it was depending on sban |
| 00:51 |
rubenwardy |
ah! It's probably because sban sets sqlite3 to {} instead of nil |
| 00:52 |
rubenwardy |
PotatoGuy Created: Mon 09 Oct 2017 12:51:56 AM UTC Banned by: <> Reason: cheating Expires: never |
| 00:52 |
rubenwardy |
looks like it works! |
| 00:53 |
shivajiva |
noted, and good! |
| 00:54 |
rubenwardy |
thanks for the mod, and good night o/ |
| 00:54 |
shivajiva |
gn o/ |
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| 06:46 |
nerzhul |
nice i can build MT on my Win10 VM with cygwin :p |
| 06:46 |
nerzhul |
i may reproduce Fixer issues |
| 06:47 |
nerzhul |
just a std::mutex issue :( |
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| 09:32 |
Raven262 |
red-001, and anyone who was involved in that discussion. Yes, the issue still exists and I don't know if it was reported to the dev team. |
| 09:33 |
nerzhul |
Raven262, which issue ? |
| 09:33 |
Raven262 |
The words moving into a new line on chat. |
| 09:34 |
Raven262 |
I thought it was fixed, compiled the 0.4.17 branch, and a few days ago it happened again. |
| 09:35 |
nerzhul |
Raven262, did you tried with 0.5.X branch ? |
| 09:35 |
Raven262 |
I didn't not play on 0.5 for too long. |
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| 09:37 |
nerzhul |
some server owners are crazy and using it in production :p |
| 09:37 |
nerzhul |
brb |
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| 09:52 |
Raven262 |
nerzhul, I have been unable to replicate the issue. |
| 09:52 |
Raven262 |
On neither 0.5 or 0.4.17 |
| 09:52 |
nerzhul |
:s |
| 09:52 |
Raven262 |
I have also noticed that it might be random |
| 09:53 |
Raven262 |
We have tested it a few months ago, while one sentence will trigger it once, it probably won't the next time. |
| 09:54 |
Raven262 |
Also, any word on chat can be moved into a newline, seems random. |
| 09:59 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 09:59 |
Calinou |
https://media.hugo.pro/Taskmgr_2017-10-09_11-56-41.png |
| 09:59 |
Calinou |
I now have 32 GB of RAM again :P |
| 10:00 |
Raven262 |
Nice, I have 8. |
| 10:00 |
Raven262 |
Hi btw |
| 10:01 |
Calinou |
I have a class soon, so I gtg, bye |
| 10:01 |
Raven262 |
bb Calinou |
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Raven262 |
Hello Megaf. |
| 10:45 |
Megaf |
Hi Raven262 shivajiva Shara benrob0329 everyone |
| 10:51 |
shivajiva |
Hiya Megaf |
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| 12:05 |
tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 12:08 |
ThomasMonroe |
hiya tenplus1 |
| 12:08 |
tenplus1 |
hi thomas |
| 12:08 |
tenplus1 |
:p |
| 12:08 |
Megaf |
Hi tenplus1 |
| 12:09 |
tenplus1 |
o/ Megaf |
| 12:12 |
Krock |
hi tenplus1 |
| 12:12 |
tenplus1 |
hey krock |
| 12:14 |
tenplus1 |
am going through all my mods and updating to 0.4.16 new functions |
| 12:14 |
rubenwardy |
remember the get_pos! |
| 12:15 |
tenplus1 |
heh yeah, did that for mobs api already :) |
| 12:15 |
tenplus1 |
the creative.is_enabled function relies on creative though, am kinda including the function in most mods instead |
| 12:16 |
rubenwardy |
wat |
| 12:16 |
rubenwardy |
don't include that function |
| 12:16 |
rubenwardy |
local is_creative = creative and creative.is_enabled or function(name) return minetest.settings:get_bool("creative") end |
| 12:16 |
rubenwardy |
or w/e the setting is |
| 12:17 |
* Megaf |
is recovering after a bike vs car crash |
| 12:17 |
tenplus1 |
what happened Megaf ? |
| 12:18 |
tenplus1 |
it's smaller to add own function than to rely on creative one :P |
| 12:18 |
Megaf |
tenplus1, Was going to college, cycling rather quickly in the cycle lane, Was about to "overtake" a car that was on my right side. He decided to turn left just before me passing by him, without checking the mirror. |
| 12:18 |
rubenwardy |
that's the wrong usage, tenplus1. Mods may override is_creative |
| 12:18 |
Megaf |
so he crashed into me and I crashed into his left side |
| 12:19 |
tenplus1 |
damn, you ok dude ? |
| 12:19 |
Megaf |
I basically hit a wall, but this wall had four wheel... |
| 12:19 |
Raven262 |
Hi ten |
| 12:19 |
tenplus1 |
hi raven |
| 12:20 |
Megaf |
tenplus1, Doing alright. Was headache for 3 or 4 days, my right should still hurt a bit but I'm recovering quickly |
| 12:20 |
tenplus1 |
rubenwardy: good point, although I will have to add creative dependency to every mod it's used on now |
| 12:20 |
rubenwardy |
opt-dependencies |
| 12:24 |
tenplus1 |
how's this: local is_creative = creative and creative.is_enabled or function(name) return (minetest.settings:get_bool("creative") or minetest.check_player_privs(name, {creative = true})) end |
| 12:26 |
rubenwardy |
the creative privilege won't be defined if creative isn't available, surely |
| 12:27 |
rubenwardy |
also, I'm planning on changing the creative priv so... |
| 12:27 |
tenplus1 |
wait, why ? |
| 12:27 |
tenplus1 |
the creative priv is very handy |
| 12:27 |
rubenwardy |
it's an abuse of the privilege system, and it's more useful to be able to switch to survival when needed to collect more than one thing |
| 12:28 |
tenplus1 |
not on a server where admin give creative priv to builders |
| 12:28 |
tenplus1 |
we use is a lot on Xanadu to separate noromal survival players and creative builders |
| 12:29 |
Krock |
rubenwardy, "creative" also gets defined in u_i |
| 12:29 |
tenplus1 |
exactly... it's well used |
| 12:29 |
CalebDavis |
hi ten |
| 12:29 |
tenplus1 |
hi caleb |
| 12:30 |
tenplus1 |
brb |
| 12:31 |
rubenwardy |
my plans would keep the creative privilege and have it work exactly the same when granted or revoked. It would just base it on an attribute internally, and allow /creative true/false to switch between |
| 12:31 |
rubenwardy |
so if you never use that command, it would work exactly the same |
| 12:31 |
Shara |
only you won't see it in /privs <player> output? |
| 12:32 |
Shara |
which is a really useful place to see if a player has that ability or not |
| 12:32 |
rubenwardy |
no, it's still a privilege so you'd still see it |
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| 12:32 |
Shara |
okay |
| 12:36 |
tenplus1 |
isnt it easier to simple check the privelage then instead of having it in two places at once ? |
| 12:36 |
tenplus1 |
hi Shara |
| 12:37 |
Shara |
Hi Ten |
| 12:38 |
ThomasMonroe |
hi Raven262 |
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| 12:39 |
tenplus1 |
hi nrz |
| 12:39 |
ThomasMonroe |
hi nerzhul |
| 12:40 |
nerzhul |
hi guyz :D |
| 12:40 |
nerzhul |
and girlz |
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tenplus1 |
hi nathan |
| 12:43 |
NathanS21 |
hi tenplus1 |
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| 12:44 |
tenplus1 |
hi fussel |
| 12:52 |
tenplus1 |
using minetest.settings:get is the new method, but settings:get_pos isnt there anymore ?!?! |
| 12:53 |
tenplus1 |
or am I needing to use a normal setting:get with minetest.string_to_pos(string) ??? |
| 13:03 |
Raven262 |
Hi ThomasMonroe |
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| 13:08 |
Krock |
tenplus1, core.setting_get_pos is defined in builtin |
| 13:09 |
Krock |
it's a helper function and not in the setting object |
| 13:10 |
tenplus1 |
is it likely to change to the new settings:get ??? |
| 13:13 |
Krock |
I doubt it, as it's only a helper function |
| 13:13 |
Krock |
i.e. a nice package around setting:get() |
| 13:14 |
tenplus1 |
I already changed it to string_to_pos( settings:get here ) for simplicity just incase :D |
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| 13:32 |
tenplus1 |
were player attributes available in 0.4.16 stable ? |
| 13:34 |
Krock |
rubenwardy, your CTF homepage link is broken btw (https://ctf.rubenwardy.com/) |
| 13:34 |
Krock |
tenplus1, yes |
| 13:34 |
rubenwardy |
haven't made it yet |
| 13:34 |
rubenwardy |
:D |
| 13:34 |
rubenwardy |
but yeah, it's broken |
| 13:34 |
tenplus1 |
thx dude... |
| 13:34 |
Krock |
implemented in 0.4.15-dev |
| 13:35 |
Krock |
together with mod metadata |
| 13:35 |
rubenwardy |
there you are |
| 13:35 |
rubenwardy |
fixed |
| 13:35 |
Krock |
rubenwardy, works for me. Thanks. |
| 13:35 |
tenplus1 |
making sure what I'm changing will be in 0.4.16 :) |
| 13:37 |
shivajiva |
Hi folks, ruben there is a corner case for M in the timespan when setting a tempban, so I'm thinking of differentiating that and dropping everything else to lowercase so d an y would also work. Does that seem satisfactory? |
| 13:38 |
tenplus1 |
wb shiva:P |
| 13:38 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, that would be good for me |
| 13:39 |
Krock |
why is there a factory in satisfactory but not in industrialism |
| 13:39 |
rubenwardy |
urgh, players keep dropping sand on the flags causing them to be dropped as items, then causing the server to crash when placing them |
| 13:40 |
rubenwardy |
silly builtin |
| 13:40 |
shivajiva |
the instructions will remain the same though to encourage use of the capital forms for durations longer than hours |
| 13:41 |
shivajiva |
time to remove sand & gravel? |
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tenplus1 |
wb thomas |
| 13:43 |
ThomasMonroe |
thx |
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| 14:25 |
IhrFussel |
Why does the creative mod's on_joinplayer() take up to 30 ms to run? |
| 14:26 |
rubenwardy |
it makes the detached inventory for creative mods |
| 14:26 |
rubenwardy |
that may depend on how many items you have |
| 14:26 |
IhrFussel |
It needs 30ms for that? |
| 14:26 |
IhrFussel |
That's crazy @ 150ms steps |
| 14:27 |
IhrFussel |
Average is 22ms but still |
| 14:29 |
rubenwardy |
well, it iterates over each item and checks the not_in_creative_inventory group. How many registered_items do you have? |
| 14:31 |
Krock |
caching the items that could be shown may help if there's a circular saw-alike feature that registers many of unlisted nodes |
| 14:32 |
rubenwardy |
good idea |
| 14:32 |
Krock |
node definitions are tables (referenced), so this shouldn't be a problem regarding memory |
| 14:32 |
tenplus1 |
I always thought that creative caches the list on first run |
| 14:32 |
Krock |
not yet.. shall I open a PR? |
| 14:32 |
tenplus1 |
would be goodf |
| 14:32 |
rubenwardy |
it's recreated for each player, and everytime you change a filter - all/nodes/etc, search |
| 14:32 |
rubenwardy |
iiirc |
| 14:33 |
Krock |
testing and benchmarking from server owners is however, very welcome |
| 14:33 |
Krock |
if if i remember correctly |
| 14:35 |
tenplus1 |
Krock: does the new boost_cart smoothing help a lot for server lag? |
| 14:36 |
Krock |
it will run smoother but can't tell whether it helps to reduce the server lag |
| 14:36 |
tenplus1 |
will download and play with it for a while :) |
| 14:36 |
Krock |
well, there are less "teleport-backs", so I assume there's some CPU time saved |
| 14:40 |
IhrFussel |
My problem could also (partially) be Shara's issue on her server ... I have ~ 1,900 nodes on the server, Shara has wayyy more |
| 14:40 |
tenplus1 |
oof!!!! |
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IhrFussel |
So if the creative mod really runs the entirely node check on EVERY join that's a huge flaw |
| 14:42 |
IhrFussel |
entire* |
| 14:42 |
tenplus1 |
deinitely... |
| 14:42 |
tenplus1 |
*definitely |
| 14:42 |
Shara |
IhrFussel: No, RC has way more but has no issues at all. It's DL that has the problems, and mods there are much lighter. |
| 14:43 |
IhrFussel |
Shara, oh yeah sorry but how many nodes does DL have? |
| 14:43 |
Shara |
To give an update though, switching to sauth seems to have stopped the lag spikes on payer join, more or less, but there's still other times lag is spiking. |
| 14:43 |
Shara |
Not sure, but way lower |
| 14:43 |
Shara |
(no circular saw for one) |
| 14:44 |
Shara |
Crazy thing is, since changes yesterday, DL seems to report lower max_lag in general, but in game you now feel the lag.. whereas before no one could |
| 14:44 |
IhrFussel |
I just enabled the profiler again and I mainly see spikes in on_joinplayer() too... my auth file has almost 50,000 lines so that could be the problem |
| 14:46 |
IhrFussel |
u_skins is also extremely heavy why is that? - on_joinplayer[1] .................................. | 37104 | 130514 | 62488 | 9.6 | 49.0 | 29.7 |
| 14:46 |
Shara |
I've tried disabling mobs, and bewarethedark, but no improvement |
| 14:47 |
Shara |
Doesn't default u_skins have some weird thing where it tries to check for new skins or something? |
| 14:47 |
Shara |
It also by default has an absolutely insane number of skins, and none really optimised for size |
| 14:48 |
Shara |
u_skins is on RC, but mine is an optimised version with a lot of skins removed |
| 14:49 |
Krock |
the last time I checked, there was no voting or anything to sort out bad skins |
| 14:49 |
* tenplus1 |
sticks with simple_skins |
| 14:49 |
Krock |
so if the updater is executed, all skins will be downloaded |
| 14:49 |
Shara |
I chopped that out of mine completely |
| 14:49 |
Shara |
IhrFussel: check the amount of media that mod has by itself |
| 14:51 |
IhrFussel |
There is only one function that runs in on_joinplayer() https://pastebin.com/ExzeZ069 |
| 14:53 |
IhrFussel |
Since I don't use models for skins I could remove the condition check, but not sure if that would speed it up |
| 14:55 |
IhrFussel |
Or it's the u_skins.save() call |
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| 15:02 |
IhrFussel |
The problem might be the 1.5 MB list of skins the mod remembers for each player |
| 15:03 |
tenplus1 |
time to rewrite skins mod to use player attributes and store inside "player_skin" field |
| 15:09 |
Krock |
IhrFussel, https://github.com/SmallJoker/minetest_game/commit/9e4ab716 ready for testing |
| 15:10 |
Krock |
noticed that it's possible to optimise the on_joinplayer callback away.. still works |
| 15:11 |
tenplus1 |
was default:coral_orange included in 0.4.16 stable ? |
| 15:11 |
Krock |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blame/12a971660d5bcbf632cc477c215a38df0d916b2f/mods/default/nodes.lua#L156 |
| 15:11 |
Krock |
added a year ago, so yes. |
| 15:12 |
Krock |
*commited |
| 15:12 |
tenplus1 |
kewl :) |
| 15:12 |
tenplus1 |
thanks |
| 15:13 |
Krock |
ah good. It was merged about a year ago too. Sometimes the commit dates are way further back, so they might haven't made it into the last stable |
| 15:14 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, it's hard to find exact date of addition sometimes |
| 15:14 |
Krock |
merge date is the important one |
| 15:14 |
tenplus1 |
k, gonna add creative changes and see how they work |
| 15:15 |
Krock |
may look a bit hackish but it's the simplest solution I can think of |
| 15:15 |
tenplus1 |
if it works then all is well :D |
| 15:18 |
tenplus1 |
if only a crafting guide was included as well :P |
| 15:19 |
tenplus1 |
wb unk |
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| 15:20 |
tenplus1 |
wb neinwhal |
| 15:20 |
tenplus1 |
Krock: isnt your boost_cart changes already in default carts ?? |
| 15:20 |
tenplus1 |
just wondering why separate mod |
| 15:22 |
unk |
thx tenplus1 |
| 15:33 |
IhrFussel |
tenplus1, I removed all lines from it that have character_1 as skin which is the default anyway... size now is 88 KB |
| 15:34 |
tenplus1 |
ehehehe, all those noobs with no skin selected :) |
| 15:34 |
tenplus1 |
am redoing simple skins just now to use player attributes |
| 15:35 |
tenplus1 |
will add a line so that "character_1" defaults arent saved in database |
| 15:35 |
tenplus1 |
it will read "simple_skins.mt" for old player list, but no longer write it |
| 15:37 |
Krock |
tenplus1, see main post. it's an extension, featuring more rails and mesecons support |
| 15:37 |
tenplus1 |
ah yes, mesecons... forgot that was removed |
| 15:38 |
Krock |
also configurable cart speed (which is set higher than those from default) |
| 15:38 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 15:38 |
Krock |
I'm thinking of a mese cart for additional speed |
| 15:38 |
Krock |
but that would mess up some functions |
| 15:38 |
tenplus1 |
god help us all... |
| 15:38 |
tenplus1 |
zooming along at 20bps |
| 15:38 |
Krock |
bits per second? |
| 15:38 |
tenplus1 |
blocks |
| 15:38 |
tenplus1 |
could use nps maybe |
| 15:39 |
Krock |
or m/s |
| 15:39 |
Krock |
which is SI-conform btw |
| 15:39 |
tenplus1 |
that'll work :P |
| 15:50 |
tenplus1 |
Simple Skins updated to use player attributes, will load .mt file for backwards compatibility only |
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tenplus1 |
hi Darcidride |
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tenplus1 |
wb |
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Fixer |
ty |
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IhrFussel |
Lua is pretty slow if a 1 MB file write takes 30+ ms |
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tenplus1 |
gotta try and avoid those if poss |
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Fixer |
finally back |
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Fixer |
got videocard cleaned up, still dead, rip |
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tenplus1 |
shame, what happened to it ? |
| 16:51 |
Fixer |
tenplus1: died, hardware failure |
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tenplus1 |
got a new one ready to replace with ? |
| 16:51 |
Fixer |
tenplus1: not at the moment, using much older one ati x800gto |
| 16:51 |
tenplus1 |
ah, not too bad |
| 16:52 |
Fixer |
it is even PCI-E and it is works, decade+ old videocard |
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Fixer |
it works* |
| 16:52 |
Fixer |
going back to my roots - nvidia |
| 16:53 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, I like nvidia :) it just works |
| 16:53 |
Fixer |
i'm not antiATI |
| 16:53 |
Fixer |
i had two ATI videocards by now |
| 16:54 |
Fixer |
time for nvidia turn, it is not that nvidia cards not die, they do, but reports from amd forums about grey screen of death even on quite newer series is worrying, decided to use nvidia for some time |
| 16:55 |
tenplus1 |
I wish that nvidia would move their asses though and open-source the driver already |
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sofar |
I like flying bacon |
| 16:57 |
tenplus1 |
lol, hi sofar :P |
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tenplus1 |
wn neinwhal |
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neinwhal |
thanks. |
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nerzhul |
Fixer, hi are you around ? |
| 17:15 |
nerzhul |
i can't remember how to fix the std::mutex issue on mingw :p |
| 17:17 |
nerzhul |
maybe sfan5 or Krock has an idea |
| 17:17 |
nerzhul |
i try to build directly with mingw on windows |
| 17:17 |
sfan5 |
haven't heard of issues with that |
| 17:18 |
nerzhul |
i remembered we said somewhere to use win threads |
| 17:22 |
nerzhul |
sfan5, https://lut.im/xAwD5QGSnv/vizoSYN9slZkolLm.png |
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sfan5 |
nerzhul: win threading support was removed at some point iirc |
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sfan5 |
so it's only c++11 threads now |
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sfan5 |
also it looks like your mingw is broken |
| 17:24 |
sfan5 |
yup you removed win threading code yourself https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/5bd33a158688f5fb950613278eefb95b0594a765#diff-3465219267c4baa9779cd47acef1bf20L134 |
| 17:27 |
Krock |
..when git blame points on yourself :3 |
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Fixer |
nerzhul: try msys2 |
| 17:49 |
Fixer |
nerzhul: try msys2/mingw64* |
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IhrFussel |
I find it funny how so many are against taking server_step into account when calculated lag yet server owners were given the option to decide the step delay ... they basically say now "dedicated_server_step option is BAAAAAD" |
| 17:53 |
rubenwardy |
it's bad if you set it to a detrimentally high value |
| 17:54 |
IhrFussel |
And 0.15 is high? Cause according to the PR my server would be yellow with such a step |
| 17:54 |
rubenwardy |
it's good to allow different server which have different game play styles to have different steps - CTF vs a creative server for example |
| 17:54 |
rubenwardy |
0.15 should not be yellow |
| 17:54 |
IhrFussel |
< 0.125 is green |
| 17:56 |
tenplus1 |
> 4.20 is a nice shade of chartruce |
| 17:58 |
Krock |
> 420 is a nice macintosh plus song |
| 17:58 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 17:58 |
rubenwardy |
you need at least 1300 for a macintosh though |
| 17:59 |
rubenwardy |
> 2200 for the newer ones |
| 17:59 |
tenplus1 |
*shudder* not a chance... |
| 17:59 |
Krock |
rubenwardy, this one is free https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE |
| 17:59 |
Krock |
not rick astley for this time ^ |
| 17:59 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
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neinwhal |
are shared huds possible? |
| 18:11 |
neinwhal |
like when i do hud_change/remove, it updates all the huds rather than just the player's one |
| 18:11 |
neinwhal |
or is there a way to directly connect multiple huds so they are synced? |
| 18:11 |
tenplus1 |
you woudl have to link them via mod for each player |
| 18:12 |
neinwhal |
via mod? |
| 18:13 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, using lua code... you would have to cycle through each player you wanna change hud for and update it at one time |
| 18:15 |
tenplus1 |
what exactly are you trying to do with HUD? |
| 18:17 |
neinwhal |
hmm, i tried that, but for some odd reason, it appears to update the wrong hud |
| 18:17 |
neinwhal |
display (multiple) other player's health bars |
| 18:18 |
tenplus1 |
ahh, like a list of player stats at the side of the screen... gotcha... |
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Krock |
tenplus1, if you're testing one of them: did you get any results of the creative patch or the carts? |
| 18:19 |
tenplus1 |
on join a player can flip a switch in a table containing health or other stats, then a globalstep function with a for loop going through each player connected can scroll through list and update the stats on side |
| 18:19 |
Krock |
neinwhal, it's definitely possible but be careful what gets executed first to overwrite it correctly |
| 18:19 |
tenplus1 |
Krock: xanadu uses default carts mod with amends for boost cart changes... not the actual boost_cart mod |
| 18:19 |
tenplus1 |
but we should be updating tonight so creative change will be live |
| 18:20 |
Krock |
tenplus1, as long the internal functions are the same, this will work too :) |
| 18:20 |
tenplus1 |
gotta edit def carts and insert the new code... will do that tomorrow hopefully |
| 18:20 |
Krock |
players report xanadu being down, 10 mins ago |
| 18:20 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, shinji closed server due to team abuse |
| 18:22 |
neinwhal |
is using something like ids[name.."_hp] to store the values right? |
| 18:22 |
tenplus1 |
yeah nein |
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nerzhul |
Fixer, i try that |
| 18:23 |
tenplus1 |
thing is that each pl;ayer will have x huds displayed for each player connected, it can get slow |
| 18:23 |
nerzhul |
sfan5, no it's related to C++11 unknown headers :p |
| 18:24 |
nerzhul |
Fixer, interesting msys64 has pacman binaries from arch |
| 18:25 |
Krock |
tenplus1, "yeah nein" sounds weird |
| 18:25 |
Krock |
at least for german people |
| 18:25 |
tenplus1 |
lolol |
| 18:27 |
neinwhal |
hmm, i can use ids[name.."_hp] for multiple players right? but i have to technically treat them as indepedent value for each player? like storing singleplayer's player hud there, but i have to store it and get it multiple times per player? |
| 18:27 |
nerzhul |
Fixer, how do you use it, i don't see the compiler |
| 18:28 |
nerzhul |
oh i should install gcc with pacman lol, very strange thing but why not |
| 18:28 |
nerzhul |
if it compiles :p |
| 18:28 |
nerzhul |
compiling outside Visual Studio on Windows is anarchy, Unix powa |
| 18:30 |
tenplus1 |
neinwhal: if you have 8 players, you would need to make 8x huds per player to show stats for that particular player and update maybe every second to save lag |
| 18:31 |
Krock |
my_hud_ids[player_name] = player:add_hud(...) |
| 18:32 |
Krock |
and that'll keep your player data persistent, if my_hud_ids is initialized outside of any function |
| 18:32 |
Krock |
store as in save to the disk is not required, if you meant it this way |
| 18:34 |
neinwhal |
right, thanks tenplus1 / Krock |
| 18:35 |
Krock |
digging into the code of mods that use HUDs and change them might be helpful for you. all of the serious programmed ones will deal with multiple players |
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IhrFussel |
tenplus1, what is "team abuse" supposed to be? It can mean 2 things |
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IhrFussel |
At least 2 things* |
| 18:40 |
tenplus1 |
players recruiting people to send panic in server |
| 18:40 |
tenplus1 |
they recruit, get limited, use vpn and come back under new nick etc... hence server down for a bit |
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nerzhul |
i think i will compile with VS 2015, less problems :p |
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tenplus1 |
nite all o/ |
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Fixer |
nerzhul: this will probably helps you https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=17797 |
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Fixer |
help* |
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Fixer |
i'm back |
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IhrFussel |
Krock, your patch seems to work so far (server just restarted) |
| 19:59 |
Krock |
"so far" .. heh. |
| 19:59 |
IhrFussel |
Well if it hides not_in_inventory=1 nodes it works right? |
| 20:01 |
Krock |
if it doesn't crash it works |
| 20:01 |
Krock |
if not_in_inventory=1 aren't shown then it's even better |
| 20:06 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, no crash and no hidden items shown xP ... does unified_inventory the same check as creative? it takes 50ms per join |
| 20:09 |
Krock |
there's no caching either |
| 20:10 |
Krock |
and the inventory must be updated on join, so it does the same check as creative |
| 20:23 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, isn't this caching? https://pastebin.com/cdTWJ3bb |
| 20:23 |
IhrFussel |
It runs only once I think and when a player joins it just applies that table to the player table |
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nerzhul |
Fixer, i will try with VS2017 |
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sfan5 |
ow |
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sfan5 |
good luck with that since you can't use the buildbot libraries with that |
| 20:26 |
nerzhul |
sfan5, exact but i think i have the good libs, and it's a good test |
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nerzhul |
our readme.md is totally wrong for windows build and inconsistent |
| 20:27 |
nerzhul |
irrlicht 1.7 and 1.8.3 for example :p |
| 20:27 |
nerzhul |
also another good thing, i can use VS2017 debug to find what happen with that UDP recv :p |
| 20:27 |
nerzhul |
and catch remaining windows crashed easily |
| 20:29 |
nerzhul |
nice at least C++11 works properly |
| 20:33 |
IhrFussel |
Now that I fixed some on_joinplayer() callbacks I see max_lag 0.4 with 4 players...that wasn't possible before |
| 20:35 |
nerzhul |
why VS 2017 launch NodeJS server... |
| 20:47 |
Fixer |
lol |
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* Krock |
mumbles something about NodeJS and https://i.redd.it/ps0v140rrmpz.png |
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Fixer |
Krock: so much yes |
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Calinou |
<nerzhul> why VS 2017 launch NodeJS server... |
| 21:11 |
Calinou |
Adobe Creative Cloud also bundles Node.js :P |
| 21:11 |
Calinou |
a ton of software does, now, deal with it |
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Fixer |
wth it needs node.js? thats like shit |
| 21:15 |
Krock |
shocking news: Atom needs node.js too |
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nerzhul |
stupid devs |
| 21:22 |
Fixer |
finally https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFAp0RpVYAAoI0C.jpg |
| 21:24 |
Krock |
what did you do with Trump's face?! |
| 21:41 |
Calinou |
today I had a classes on grammars and regexes (easy for me, but hard for others… :P), in a room with mid-2011 iMacs |
| 21:42 |
Calinou |
there's Atom installed on them… version 1.5.4 |
| 21:42 |
Calinou |
the latest stable version is 1.21.0 :P |
| 21:44 |
Krock |
at least they've got an usable editor |
| 21:44 |
Jordach |
nerzhul, at this point i've become hatred to modern developers who can't use a proper language instead of that nu-male bullshit called JS |
| 21:45 |
Megaf |
So I set Kodi interface to be 480p or even less and videos are 480p, and youtube 360p |
| 21:46 |
Megaf |
in this 32" SONY Bravia TV, here from the sofa image looks amazing |
| 21:46 |
nerzhul |
nice MT is now compiled with VS2017 yeah |
| 21:46 |
nerzhul |
:;D |
| 21:46 |
Megaf |
nerzhul, Wonder if MT builds with VS for Linux |
| 21:53 |
nerzhul |
erf MT crash when leaving main menu and destroying async luaengine |
| 22:03 |
nerzhul |
TerminateHandle doesn't release mutex and a thread cannot unlock non owned mutex and destory non owned mutex |
| 22:04 |
Fixer |
Calinou: mid 2011? thats new, i've expected smth like Celeron 2Ghz with 1Gb ram |
| 22:09 |
nerzhul |
okay i see the issue we try to release a non owned mutex and we kill the thread like cowards then mutex was no released |
| 22:13 |
Calinou |
Fixer: they have quad i5's, 8 GB of RAM and a 500 GB HDD each |
| 22:14 |
Calinou |
21" 1920×1080 (doesn't look great…) |
| 22:14 |
Calinou |
Megaf: 32" is the size of my primary desktop monitor… :P |
| 22:14 |
Calinou |
the TV downstairs is 48" |
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Calinou |
(it's only 1080p, but there's nearly nothing in 4K anyway, even today) |
| 22:23 |
Megaf |
Jordach, I hate JS too |
| 22:23 |
Megaf |
but theres nothing wrong with JS |
| 22:23 |
Jordach |
Megaf, JS is for faggots |
| 22:23 |
Megaf |
just with people who code using it |
| 22:23 |
Jordach |
it's not a real language |
| 22:24 |
Megaf |
10 min ago I opened a website, it was totally blank, then I enabled JS for that site, made my laptop crawl |
| 22:24 |
Jordach |
it's XML, the scripting language |
| 22:24 |
Megaf |
JS can be pretty good. Internet Archive have computer emulators in JS running Duke 3D |
| 22:25 |
Jordach |
an overkill solution to instead just hosting the engine data files |
| 22:25 |
Jordach |
(which can be given links to repos or applicable downloads) |
| 22:25 |
Megaf |
its nice if you want to test the thing first |
| 22:27 |
Jordach |
i'm still hit or miss with JS crypto mining instead of ads |
| 22:28 |
nerzhul |
wow i think i found a nice bug catched on windows in the threading code |
| 22:28 |
nerzhul |
yeah |
| 22:28 |
nerzhul |
i have a bug to fix |
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nerzhul |
i'm testing it on linux to ensure it's correct on both systems |
| 22:34 |
IhrFussel |
nerzhul, need me too for testing before I go to bed? |
| 22:37 |
nerzhul |
IhrFussel, if you want, test https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6515 and comment |
| 22:41 |
nerzhul |
ooch linux didn't catch this ugly vector problem |
| 22:41 |
nerzhul |
i have another bugfix, historical in NetworkPacket::putRawPacket |
| 22:42 |
nerzhul |
strangely windows is more secure than Linux on that |
| 22:44 |
nerzhul |
Fixer, i got your crash on exit on my windows now then i can reproduce it and try to fix it :p |
| 22:44 |
Fixer |
nerzhul: nice, ty |
| 22:44 |
Fixer |
nerzhul: also try singleplayer runs |
| 22:44 |
nerzhul |
seems mingw is lazy than VS :p |
| 22:45 |
nerzhul |
i push a trivial crashfix on VS2017 which is totally lgtm on everyplatform but never catched;.. |
| 22:49 |
IhrFussel |
nerzhul, 6515 works normally here, will try the next patch(es) later...see ya |
| 22:50 |
nerzhul |
nice IhrFussel , i hope sfan5 or Krock can review it fast to ensure windows build works |
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Fixer |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxQGhqF60zE |
| 23:31 |
sofar |
I saw the sban code |
| 23:31 |
sofar |
and I wanted to grab a pile of tabs and reindent it |
| 23:31 |
sofar |
shivajiva: you take da patches? yes? |
| 23:40 |
shivajiva |
you don't like 4 space tabs? |
| 23:40 |
Shara |
sofar: If anyone is switching it to tabs there, I will. |
| 23:41 |
Shara |
The spaces make me twitchy :P |
| 23:45 |
shivajiva |
lol I'll switch to hard tabs and beautify :P |
| 23:46 |
Shara |
:D |
| 23:50 |
shivajiva |
not sure that did anything =) |
| 23:52 |
shivajiva |
converted all spaces to tabs :P |
| 23:53 |
Shara |
:D |
| 23:53 |
shivajiva |
hope it measures up |
| 23:53 |
Shara |
I'm sure it will |
