Time Nick Message 00:05 rubenwardy tes 00:07 rubenwardy Sharker (~torrezno@127.0.0.1) has joined #freenode 00:07 rubenwardy cooool 00:08 garywhite1 thanks 00:08 bigfoot547 Wow 00:08 bigfoot547 the 127.0.0.1 joined :P 00:08 garywhite1 I can't identify with NS, & it says I'm banned from #freenode when I'm not 00:08 bigfoot547 Nickserv netsplit 00:09 garywhite1 Oh, there's no services... 00:09 bigfoot547 Nopw 00:09 bigfoot547 services. netsplit, as I said :P 00:10 garywhite1 I may stick to Discord for the time being till this blows over 00:11 rubenwardy it was a network fault, apparently 00:11 [bigfoot] garywhite1: I saw no host of yours on the banlist 00:12 garywhite1 My client says different 00:26 garywhite1 VanessaE: Are you giving up Minetest? 00:26 VanessaE no 00:27 VanessaE my husband died this morning, so I will have to cut expenses 00:27 garywhite1 Oh... 00:27 garywhite1 my condolences 00:27 VanessaE (because I'll be forced to move out of my current home and find cheaper living) 00:28 rubenwardy I have a 3.4GHz / 1TB HHD / 8GB RAM I could host a smaller one on, however there may be slow downs every so often as I also use it to build projects when I commit to them (CI) 00:29 rubenwardy I'm also not that interested in full on moderating (I'm quite Laissez-Faire) 00:30 rubenwardy It may be worth seeing if people would contribute to a patreon 00:35 VanessaE thanks rubenwardy 00:36 VanessaE I'll bbl 00:38 rubenwardy Does anyone remember nolsen? 00:38 rubenwardy He's in #freenode atm, thought it was a funnyish coincidence 00:38 rubenwardy !seen nolsen 00:38 ShadowBot rubenwardy: I haven't seen nolsen in #minetest-hub. 00:39 rubenwardy rubenwardy: nolsen was last seen at 2016-09-21 22:38:18 UTC on #minetest 00:44 lisac VanessaE, sorry to hear that :( my condolences 00:45 lisac rubenwardy, I made a gamebanana profile for Minetest and uploaded my mod. http://gamebanana.com/gamefiles/5875 Do you think it is a good idea? 00:46 rubenwardy dunno 00:46 rubenwardy does it handle installing / package managing at all? 00:46 lisac well, it places 'Manual download' option to my mod 00:46 lisac so I'm guessing there are other installation options 00:52 [bigfoot] Hey tumeninodes 00:53 tumeninodes Hi bigfoot 00:53 lisac Hi tumeninodes 00:53 tumeninodes hello lisac 00:57 benrob0329 VanessaE: my sincere condolences, I am very sorry to hear that :'-( 00:57 tumeninodes lisac, you two have dug quite a hole for yourselves :P 00:57 tumeninodes hi benrob 00:58 lisac how so, tumeninodes? :D 00:58 tumeninodes maybe I'm mistaken? I thought you and raven were building a large underground thingy 00:59 [bigfoot] hahaaaaaaaaa 00:59 lisac oh we were lol 00:59 tumeninodes wait.... I thought... what??? this is not my locker.... 00:59 [bigfoot] heh? 00:59 lisac tumeninodes, http://gamebanana.com/gamefiles/5875 01:00 tumeninodes he he, I'm a ranked tool 01:01 lisac I added minetest to GB is the point lol 01:01 tumeninodes yes... I know 01:03 tumeninodes you added MTG itself? or just your mod? 0_o 01:03 lisac Minetest. 01:03 lisac :P 01:03 lisac now others can add their mods 01:04 lisac we also need some community moderators there, I guess. 01:04 tumeninodes ohhh, you added the category Minetest... cool 01:04 * tumeninodes really needs to increase his dosage 01:05 lisac it's 03:05 here lol 01:05 lisac seems I'm the one to increase dosage 01:05 tumeninodes this is a good thing... hmmmmmmm. How many moderators do they required? 01:06 tumeninodes sleep is for the weak 01:06 lisac they require none, actually 01:06 lisac but we can't add an icon without one 01:07 lisac I probably don't fill the requirements 01:07 tumeninodes that's stupid :P 01:07 lisac lol maybe 01:07 lisac it's automated 01:08 tumeninodes I probably don't meet requirements either, seeing as I'm a sociopath 01:09 tumeninodes hmmmm #3 is questionable 01:10 lisac Do you consider yourself mature and responsible? 01:10 lisac hmm 01:10 lisac ye... es? 01:11 lisac :( 01:11 tumeninodes hahaha 01:11 tumeninodes well, it depends on what your definition of "mature and responsible" is 01:12 tumeninodes the ? at the end would be a classic 01:12 tumeninodes I thin bigfoot is still laughing at me 01:13 tumeninodes *k 01:15 tumeninodes I'll check it out lisac, I'm honestly not sure if I will have time currently. I would say I think you should post about it on the forum but, then again :/ 01:15 lisac I'll just apply then resign if some of the project members decide they should take it over. 01:17 tumeninodes sounds like a good idea... I can apply as well probably better to have a few to split the task 01:19 lisac sure lol 01:19 lisac I just applied 01:20 tumeninodes heh Im a bit more cautious, I'll check it tomorrow :P 01:29 lisac okay, I'm going to sleep 01:29 lisac Cya tomorrow 01:29 tumeninodes night 01:30 rubenwardy !seen cheapie 01:30 ShadowBot rubenwardy: I saw cheapie in #minetest-hub 6 weeks, 6 days, 11 hours, 15 minutes, and 38 seconds ago saying "Maybe just shorten it to "isksk"?" 01:53 tumeninodes night all 07:07 rdococ Yay! 09:55 nerzhul https://github.com/johngrib/vim-game-code-break haha break mt code 09:58 Dumbeldor :D 10:48 Megaf Hi all 10:49 Dumbeldor Hi Megaf 10:49 DS-minetest hi 12:07 Fixer o_O my condolences to VanessaE 12:07 CWz What happened? 12:08 CWz Fixer? 12:15 DI3HARD139 I missed something. What I miss? 12:16 rdococ O_______O 12:19 DI3HARD139 My condolences VanessaE 12:23 Raven262 What did we miss? 12:23 Raven262 This is getting creepy. 12:24 rdococ Raven262: [01:26:35] <VanessaE> my husband died this morning, so I will have to cut expenses 12:24 Raven262 My condolences, VanessaE. 12:24 Raven262 I did not know, sorry. 12:26 Fuchs oh :/ 12:26 Fuchs VanessaE: I'm sorry for your loss, my condolences 12:30 Dumbeldor My condolences VanessaE :( 12:31 Calinou hi 12:31 DI3HARD139 Hello Calinou 12:31 Calinou my condolences, VanessaE 12:31 ThomasMonroe im sorry VE 12:41 Raven262 hi Calinou 12:47 CWz My condolences as well 12:50 Raven262 hi paramat 12:52 DI3HARD139 Hello paramat 12:53 ThomasMonroe hi paramat 12:54 Dumbeldor Hello paramat 12:55 CalebDavis hi paramat 12:56 rdococ hi paramat 12:56 rdococ bye Megaf 12:56 VanessaE thanks for the kind words everyone. 13:21 RobbieF Good morning 13:23 Dumbeldor Hello RobbieF 14:21 RobbieF Hi Dumbeldor 16:27 Krock o/ 16:28 KaadmY \o 16:29 CalebDavis o/ -> o- -> o\ -> o- -> o/ 16:30 Krock you have weird arms, CalebDavis 16:30 CalebDavis XD 16:30 Krock s/arms/arm/ 16:31 CalebDavis \o/ -> _o_ -> \o/ 16:31 CalebDavis much better XD 16:35 rdococ Ha, nothing compares to this: 16:36 rdococ \o/ 16:36 rdococ | 16:36 rdococ / \ 16:37 CalebDavis XD 16:37 CalebDavis \o/ 16:37 CalebDavis | 16:37 CalebDavis / \ 16:38 CalebDavis \o/ 16:38 rdococ Oof, that looks like it hurt. :P 16:38 CalebDavis | 16:38 CalebDavis :P 16:38 rdococ Oof, again! :P 16:38 CalebDavis \o/ 16:38 CalebDavis | 16:38 CalebDavis / \ 16:38 rdococ CalebDavis: Use a text editor and copy it into the chat, that's what I do :P 16:38 CalebDavis :P 16:38 rdococ anyway... HI! *waves* 16:38 rdococ o/ 16:38 rdococ || 16:38 rdococ | 16:38 Krock GUYS, please. 16:39 ThomasMonroe uimm that has to hurt rdococ 16:39 rdococ Yay, it's a Krockodile! 16:40 CalebDavis \o/ 16:40 CalebDavis | 16:40 CalebDavis _o_ 16:40 CalebDavis | 16:40 CalebDavis o 16:40 CalebDavis _o_ 16:40 rdococ ...Ew. 16:40 CalebDavis | 16:40 CalebDavis \o/ 16:40 CalebDavis | 16:40 CalebDavis umm that didnt work 16:40 ThomasMonroe are you doing jumping jacks? 16:41 rdococ No, it just looked... gross. :P 16:41 CalebDavis i am on hexchat and it took the / as a command 16:41 rdococ Look below the first stickman's body, you'll see what I mean. 16:41 rdococ CalebDavis: You can use two /s like this: "// \" to prevent it. 16:41 rdococ /like this. 16:42 CalebDavis \o/ 16:42 CalebDavis | 16:42 CalebDavis / \ 16:42 CalebDavis 16:42 CalebDavis _o_ 16:42 CalebDavis | 16:42 CalebDavis / \ 16:42 CalebDavis 16:42 CalebDavis o 16:42 CalebDavis /|\ 16:42 CalebDavis / \ 16:42 CalebDavis 16:42 CalebDavis _o_ 16:42 Wayward_One probably shouldn't spam too much.. 16:42 CalebDavis | 16:42 CalebDavis / \ 16:42 CalebDavis 16:42 CalebDavis \o/ 16:42 CalebDavis | 16:42 CalebDavis / \ 16:42 CalebDavis yea prbly not :) 16:42 rdococ Uh oh, it looks like a... /spammer alarm!/ Everyone evacuate! :P 16:43 ThomasMonroe yep hes doing textual jumping jacks, EVACUATE!!!!! 16:43 CalebDavis XD 16:43 CalebDavis XD 16:44 Wayward_One ...well then 16:44 Wayward_One lol 16:44 ThomasMonroe is he gone? 16:44 CalebDavis no 16:46 CalebDavis you do know that you can just leave one channel 16:46 ThomasMonroe yes ik i acidentally did /quit instead of /leave 16:46 CalebDavis XD 16:51 paramat ok, that's enough playing thanks :] 17:42 IhrFussel Can anyone with a dev server version (recently compiled) check if the death bug still exists there? Steps to reproduce: 1. Join any dev version server 2. Die somehow 3. "You died" formspec CLOSE the client 4. Reconnect and try to interact with stuff 17:47 IhrFussel The server needs to have anticheat enabled to properly test it 17:49 rdococ LS-S has a glitch where people can be standing in random places, and then they die suddenly for no real reason. If they were standing still, which I assume they were, I doubt it would be kill-blocks. 17:49 rdococ s/LS/CG 17:54 Shara Hi everyone. 17:54 IhrFussel rdococ, that sounds strange but this bug is wayy worse if it still exists in dev ... player THINK they are alive on the server when in reality they're still dead after leaving without respawning 17:55 Shara Sorry to anyone I didn't answer messages from. Had no internet connection for a few days. 17:55 IhrFussel The server only resets the HP when the player respawns it seems 17:59 rdococ O_ 17:59 rdococ O 18:00 rdococ IhrFussel: does sethp fix it? 18:00 IhrFussel Mobile players leave A LOT after dying without clicking "respawn" and my log is FULL OF "anticheat: xyz tried to interact while dead;ignoring" 18:00 IhrFussel Yes set_hp(20) fixes it on join 18:01 rdococ So I guess I could create a temporary patch in Lua. 18:01 IhrFussel I already did that but it's hacky IMO...the engine should properly handle this scenario 18:02 rdococ Yeah. Kinda sounds like a horror story tbh. 18:02 rdococ "You died... you are now a ghost." :P 18:02 IhrFussel rdococ, exactly...the worst part is the players do NOT get any warning that they are dead still...they simply cannot interact with anything until they die again and respawn properly 18:03 rdococ So when a ghost dies, it gets revived? :P 18:03 IhrFussel I want to open an issue about it but I need someone with a current dev server & client to test it there first 18:04 rdococ Does the same bug happen with an old client and a new server, or with a new client and old server? 18:05 IhrFussel I have no old clients to test it :/ ... I only know it happsn on 0.4.16 stable server with 0.4.16 clients but since many mobile apps don't even use 0.4.16 as engine and still have that problem I'm assuming older clients are affected too 18:09 IhrFussel STOP 18:10 rdococ ? 18:10 IhrFussel I found out the cause of this behavior: It only happens when the server shows a custom FORMSPEC on joinplayer 18:10 IhrFussel It overrides the "you died" formspec and therefore makes proper respawning impopssible 18:10 IhrFussel impossible* 18:16 IhrFussel I can't find any issues related to that I'll open one 18:19 rdococ Do you have any info on the random death glitch, or do you think it might just be killblocks? 18:21 IhrFussel https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6251 ... rdococ I never had that issue, sorry 18:52 paramat anyone know of a good 'map' item texture? i might make a PR soon for a paper map enabling minimap 19:00 CalebDavis hmm the gps mod has a good map 19:01 paramat ok i'll open a PR soon then people can make suggestions there 19:06 Shara paramat: Can it please be an optional feature? 19:06 Shara It's something I think would be very good to have, but optional. 19:08 paramat there could be a setting for it, i wouldn't mind that 19:09 paramat it would be auto-enabled in creative or for players with creative priv 19:11 paramat i guess you're concerned about players who are now used to getting minimap for nothing in survival? :] 19:15 KaadmY Also there should be a way to have the server "need" the minimap 19:15 KaadmY So people don't get confused that the map in their inventory doesn't do anythign 19:16 Shara paramat: It's mostly just about enabling options. 19:16 Shara I think I'd want this on my survival server for example, but maybe not for my moderator team (they don't get creative priv) 19:17 Shara So it could be nice if it's got the flexibility to turn on/off per player 19:17 Shara Not really sure which approach would be best 19:20 tenplus1 hi folks 19:20 Shara Hi Ten 19:20 tenplus1 o/ hi Shara :P 19:21 tenplus1 hi robbie 19:21 RobbieF Hi there tenplus1 19:21 RobbieF how are you today? 19:21 tenplus1 tired... long day at work... you? 19:21 Raven262 Hi tenplus1 19:21 tenplus1 hi raven 19:22 RobbieF I'm pretty well thanks, though been a tough 24 hours: last night there was an explosion and fire at our local fibre hub - several hundred strands of fibre were melted... including those leading to our game servers. 19:22 RobbieF we're just waiting patiently.... 19:22 tenplus1 erk, how'd that happen / 19:23 RobbieF a painter backed the lift they were driving into an electrical pole. It broke the wire which fell to the ground hitting a junction which sparked a cascade of 3 explosions 19:23 sofar RobbieF: o_O 19:23 sofar terrorist attack on pixel shadow? 19:23 RobbieF haha 19:23 RobbieF no 19:23 sofar lol/ouch 19:23 RobbieF nothing that large 19:23 RobbieF small, isolated explosions 19:24 RobbieF it's the fire really that caused all the damage (melted fibre lines) 19:24 tenplus1 ouch... what's the chances... hope it can all get fixed soon enough 19:24 sofar it crossed the streams :) 19:24 tenplus1 hi sofar 19:24 RobbieF yeah tenplus1 19:24 RobbieF my servers are getting a nice little rest :) 19:24 tenplus1 heh, then back to 24/7 operation 19:24 RobbieF they're all up, but no fibre connection :D 19:24 Shara Hi sofar 19:25 Shara I'm just happy I have servers after the last few days :P 19:25 Calinou hi 19:25 Calinou I have my driving theory exam tomorrow 19:25 tenplus1 hi Cal... good luck dude 19:25 Shara good luck Calinou 19:26 tenplus1 if you feel nervous just imagine the driving instructor naked 19:28 RobbieF Good luck Calinou 19:28 RobbieF tenplus1 what if she's cute? 19:28 Raven262 Gl Hf Calinou 19:28 RobbieF then even MORE nervous! 19:28 Raven262 And say gg wp after you pass 19:28 tenplus1 ehehehehehehe 19:28 paramat well enabling per-player can always be done with a simple mod of your own, it may be difficult to build-in per-player enable to this PR, but a global setting is easily possible 19:28 Calinou it's theory exam, it's just a quiz 19:29 tenplus1 hi paramat 19:32 CalebDavis hi ten 19:32 tenplus1 hi caleb 19:32 RobbieF oh tenplus1 - btw, players ADORE the car fix; thanks so much. 19:32 tenplus1 sweet, glad it helps :) otherwiswe you'd have 1000's of parked cars everywher 19:32 RobbieF saves our mods SO much time re. car grief 19:32 RobbieF exactly 19:33 RobbieF people were planting thousands all over spawn 19:33 RobbieF no doubt wee children, but now it just won't happen 19:33 tenplus1 lol... if you fork carts and boats I'll do the same for those if ya like... 19:33 RobbieF Could the same thing be applied to soccer balls? 19:33 RobbieF would love that 19:33 Shara I came back to messages about the cars... if that is dealt with, glad to hear it. 19:33 tenplus1 hrm... could make it so that soccer balls that dont move for 30 seconds drop as items 19:35 RobbieF Shara yeah - totally dealt with! 19:35 RobbieF tenplus1 made 'em vanish after 10 seconds of no use 19:35 tenplus1 we use same technique on Xanadu for carts and boats 19:36 RobbieF tenplus1 yeah that's what I'm thinking - that'd be GREAT for soccer balls. Even pets! 19:37 RobbieF tenplus1 can you throw me the git links of what you want me to clone to add the patch? 19:37 Raven262 tenplus1, can I somehow get a pet on Xanadu? And if yes, which animals am i able to tame? 19:38 tenplus1 raven, you can tame hogs, horses, cats, wolves -> dogs, npc's, cows, sheep, penguins 19:38 tenplus1 RobbieF: will look into that another day tho and sort carts/boats/soccer balls 19:39 RobbieF alright - thanks man. Want me to fork those now? 19:39 RobbieF soccer balls will be ASTONISHING! 19:39 tenplus1 yeah, plop soccer balls in there someplace and I'll have a fiddle and see about dropping after 30 seconds on inactivity 19:39 tenplus1 brb, 19:40 RobbieF thanks dude 19:42 lisac Hey tenplus1 19:42 lisac good to finally find you online lol 19:42 lisac can you open Xanadu's borders so that some of my MT friends can join? 19:42 RobbieF Done tenplus1 19:42 lisac also: http://gamebanana.com/gamefiles/5875 19:43 lisac I added Minetest to gamebanana 19:43 lisac and my mod :P 19:46 Raven262 There is no Xanadu right now, it seems. 19:46 tenplus1 seems xanadu is down 19:46 tenplus1 wonder if storm in area 19:46 RobbieF AND TPS is obviously down :( 19:46 RobbieF not a good day for MT players. 19:47 Raven262 *goes to play singleplayer* 19:47 CalebDavis hey ten i just set custom sky and clouds for my subgame 19:47 CalebDavis http://pasteall.org/pic/index.php?id=117999 19:47 CalebDavis there's a screenshot 19:48 Raven262 Dat skybox dude 19:48 Raven262 I mean really 19:55 lisac CalebDavis, it really looks like a box 19:55 lisac :P 19:55 CalebDavis ik i need to work on the skybox textures 19:56 paramat interesting alien look to that though 19:57 CalebDavis thx paramat 19:59 Fixer CalebDavis: jpeg 20:00 CalebDavis ok ill keep that in mind :) 20:13 paramat https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/1877 add map mod 20:14 tenplus1 +1 20:15 paramat a global setting to enable minimap in survival mode could be added 20:15 tenplus1 I like it 20:16 Shara I like it, but do think it should be optional. 20:16 Raven262 A map scroll is a good idea, though that outline makes it look a bit odd. 20:18 paramat let's wait for more opinions about an option, i'm neutral on that, this is just basic functionality so far WIP 20:18 paramat texture suggestions welcome, it's a placeholder 20:18 paramat we're a few years late with proper integration of minimap into MTG :] 20:18 paramat as usual 20:19 Shara Just a few :P 20:19 tenplus1 it would be a good option though 20:19 CalebDavis hey do you think it would bee cool to make the builtin sky able to use textures for the sun and moon 20:19 CalebDavis -e 20:20 Shara I thought it could? 20:20 CalebDavis ohh i didnt find anything in the api 20:20 tenplus1 didnt latest changes make it so that clouds worked on skyboxes, dunno if moon/sun is still working 20:20 paramat it can, but possibly only from a texture pack 20:21 Shara There's a few servers with different sun/moon textures around 20:21 Shara Alternative skyboxes never worked with sun/moon, only the default sky 20:21 CalebDavis ohh ok 20:22 Calinou yeah, custom skyboxes don't have the concept of sun/moon 20:22 Shara I'd love if they could. 20:24 Raven262 Imagine all the possibilities... 20:24 tenplus1 :P 20:25 CalebDavis maby it could be done by adding 2 more textures to the skybox definition 20:25 CWz Minetests needs ability to have 2 suns 20:25 CWz or more 20:25 CalebDavis ohhhhh that sounds cool 20:26 Raven262 And some more orbiting objects 20:26 tenplus1 hi CWz... making the skybox into a sort of skyHUD would be fun... adding new features as and when required 20:26 Raven262 With settable orbits 20:26 tenplus1 e.g. moon phases 20:26 CWz ALL THE SUNS 20:26 paramat yes custom sky somewhat needs work on a sun/moon/stars API 20:27 paramat currently you can only have stationary objects added to the skybox textures 20:28 Raven262 And they will appear stretched if you don't make the texture right. 20:29 tenplus1 nite folks :D o/ 20:36 IhrFussel Can I access the extended player attributes of a player on_prejoinplayer()? I guess not 21:10 rubenwardy IhrFussel, no 21:10 rubenwardy the player object hasn't been initialised yet 21:10 rubenwardy afaik 21:10 rubenwardy I'm not 100% 21:11 IhrFussel Could be useful for temp ban parameters 21:47 IhrFussel nerzhul, regrding the bug: I think the actual problem is that the death formspec is lost when the other formspec shows...you'd likely have to either ignore the custom formspec if HP is 0 or set an interval that checks every X secs for the HP and then displays the formspec 21:47 IhrFussel Also a shame that formspecs don't stack, cause that would've solved this behavior 21:52 IhrFussel Actually a check every X secs would make more sense...on_joinplayer() is NOT the only callback where you can display a formspec 21:53 IhrFussel I have a command on my server that display a custom formspec as "global message" in register_globalstep() ... if ANY player died before this global message the bug will happen 21:54 IhrFussel AFAIK EVERY formspec can and will overwrite the death formspec and therefore the option to respawn is lost 21:55 IhrFussel Other servers use formspecs for teleport request, friend requests, trade requests etc etc 22:54 Megaf Heya