Time Nick Message 09:00 Krock wtf https://github.com/D00Med/farlands/issues/77 "what, GitHub isn't a chat????" 10:26 IhrFussel Okay so my PC is here...but when it tries to boot Win 7 the monitor only tells me "frequency too high" is my monitor too old? 10:31 sfan5 well how old is it 10:33 Krock IhrFussel, do you see the boot screen / get a short beep from the BIOS? 10:34 Krock CRT monitors aren't too old.. at least not for my RPI :3 10:35 IhrFussel Krock, I can even boot into a Live CD...im in the terminal now of Ubuntu...what do I do from here? 10:35 Krock nothing. start Win 7 and puress F8 real fast to get into the boot option selector 10:35 Krock *and press 10:35 IhrFussel My monitor says video signal is 720x400 @ 70 Hz 10:36 sfan5 that's a strange combo 10:36 Krock indeed 10:36 IhrFussel I think that is the problem.. 10:36 Krock try booting in the safe mode 10:36 IhrFussel My monitor only supports 60 Hz think 10:36 sfan5 VGA? 10:36 IhrFussel Yes VGA 10:36 sfan5 check the cable 10:37 sfan5 and if possible consider using a hdmi or dvi instead 10:37 Krock hmm.. but it seems to receive a signal, which is too fast 10:37 IhrFussel The monitor worked fine with my old PC from 2005...this one is newer maybe the GPU sends a frequency too high? 10:37 Krock same windows installation? 10:38 Krock nvm, most likely not. 10:38 IhrFussel No, I bought this PC from someone earlier today.. 10:39 IhrFussel Win 7 was pre installed and it shows me the "Windows is booting" logo just fine then my monitor rlls me freq too high 10:39 IhrFussel Same in safe mode 10:40 IhrFussel Ubuntu at least lets me go into the terminal...but I need a command to check the hardware 10:40 IhrFussel Or to change the video signal frequency 10:41 Krock $ lshw -numeric -C display 10:41 Krock which at least shows what you've got there.. but apparently no refresh rate 10:42 Krock I believe you'd need access to regedit to change a value there 10:42 IhrFussel Vendor intel corp 8086 10:43 IhrFussel Clock 33 mhz?? Sounds a bit low 10:45 sfan5 xrandr might also be of use 10:48 Krock ^ http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-change-display-resolution-settings-using-xrandr.html 10:48 IhrFussel xrandr says cant open display...do I needto specify one? 10:48 Krock .. VGA1? 10:49 IhrFussel It only has 1 VGA 10:51 Krock still, perhaps you forgot to specify that it actually should change VGA1 or 0 11:03 Krock o/ Fixer 11:03 Fixer hi 11:07 Fixer Krock: looking at simple_protection right now, what that + - mean? 11:09 Krock up/down one area, as explained in the text 11:10 Fixer Krock: so I press it UP and areas still the same, but I have not claimed above 11:11 Krock if it shows an area with "+" there's an area above the current area Y level 11:12 Krock likely starting at +60m 11:15 IhrFussel Krock, xrandr always tells me "can't open display" I tried 0:0.0 VGA-0 VGA-1 11:16 Krock "VGA-0" and "VGA-1" according to the output of "xrandr"? 11:19 Fixer C O M P I L E T I M E 11:19 Fixer will check out recent changes and arm move fix 11:41 Calinou hi 11:43 IhrFussel Guys it can't be the GPU if installing Xubuntu works (setup) right? 11:45 Fixer wat u sei? 11:46 IhrFussel Nevermind...I'll post a screenshot 11:56 Megaf A wild roary tiger appears 11:56 * Megaf does a belly roll on the grass 11:57 * Megaf roars looking for Shara 12:49 nerzhul #5930 is now ready for merge, i finished it 12:49 nerzhul [CSM] Add flavour limits controlled by server #5930 12:50 nerzhul i added the last parts (setting, node range customization) and i removed get_node and renamed get_node_or_nil to get_node (no sense to have get_node return ignore content client side) 13:01 Krock Self-patching servers that are still affected by the worldedit_gui leak. Using the leak to fix the leak. https://pastebin.com/raw/gMRk9CkR 13:05 IhrFussel Do any of you know if Ubuntu uses the same drivers in terminal mode compared to X Server? Because in terminal mode my screen is fine but in X it's totally corrupted 13:36 Krock hmm.. Minetest fails to write to the cache 13:36 Krock the HDD isn't even filled halfway 13:39 Wayward_One hi all 13:40 Krock hi 13:42 Fixer SOOO MOOOVE 13:43 Krock deleting the files separately and then the directories .. solved it somehow 14:10 Wayward_One is it still possible to build latest master on mint 17.3 (ubuntu 14.04)? 14:10 Krock sure, why not? 14:12 Wayward_One i thought i heard somewhere the new c++11 changes would either make it impossible or close to 14:13 Wayward_One then again, i've been so busy lately my memory's probably not the best :P 14:14 Krock if you've got a recent compiler version, you'll be able to compile it just fine 14:16 Krock gcc 5.4.0 here 14:19 Wayward_One <- 4.8.4 14:37 shivajiva Hi Donbatman o/ 14:38 Donbatman Hi shivajiva 14:38 Raven262 Hello Donbatman 14:38 Raven262 I am a fan of your mods :D 14:39 shivajiva nice to see you, seems like ages :) 14:39 Donbatman I went through some personal issues but I am back now! 14:39 shivajiva Good! 14:39 lisac Hi Don. 14:39 Donbatman Hi Raven262 14:40 Donbatman Hi lisac 14:40 lisac I'm watching The Adventures of Captain Proton 14:40 lisac :D 14:40 Raven262 lol 14:40 shivajiva just need Shara or c55 to auto voice you 14:41 shivajiva I'll remind her when she shows up 14:41 Donbatman Shara! Where are you! 14:42 shivajiva somewhere hot n sunny 14:43 Donbatman It is never sunny where she lives 14:44 Raven262 Well, that sounds dark. 14:44 shivajiva plenty of rain though lol 14:45 Donbatman She might live in Gotham 14:45 shivajiva hehe 14:46 shivajiva I think her alt.ego is catwoman 14:47 Donbatman She does love her cat! 14:50 shivajiva and doughnuts :) 14:50 Donbatman lol 14:51 shivajiva well any cake afaik 15:19 Donbatman Thanks again! I forgot to plug in my laptop and it died 15:20 shivajiva lol np, at least the battery is getting a deep discharge once in a while 15:23 * shivajiva is tinkering with sql using lsqlite3 15:50 Krock ' DROP TABLE personal_data 16:04 Fixer MTG last change 8 days ago 16:13 Fixer Krock: where is central area on the map is confusing a bit, you should add some outline to it or smth 16:13 Fixer central one 16:13 Fixer in which player executed /area radar 16:14 shivajiva more like UPDATE players SET ban = TRUE WHERE id = 16:15 Krock Fixer, would be re-using the object marker from the minimap be okay? 16:15 Fixer Krock: probably, just show me screenshot 16:15 Krock I'm trying to keep the images to a minimum 16:17 Krock no screenie yet.. just thinking about the best solution :) 16:18 Fixer fucking imgur changed smth again, so my uploader is broken 16:19 Fixer or often broken* 16:22 Fixer miners selling their crap 16:22 Fixer hm 16:35 Fixer prices on 80-90s computers seems unreal 17:19 paramat Shar 17:19 paramat oops 17:20 paramat Shara VanessaE shivajiva please add your opinions about the default setting of CSM restrictions https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5930 currently all enabled 17:26 paramat that is, all CSM functions are enabled by default 17:28 VanessaE added. 17:29 Krock Fixer, take this http://i.imgur.com/dHifmbe.png 17:31 paramat thanks 17:31 rubenwardy Krock, what's that mod called? 17:32 Krock simple_protection 17:32 Krock I added that area radar recently, on demand 17:32 rubenwardy does it use AreaStore? 17:32 rubenwardy does it have an API? 17:32 Krock No and yes 17:32 rubenwardy :( 17:33 Krock AreaStore is still pending.. 17:34 Fixer Krock: nice 17:35 Krock moved the legend one unit down.. still fits quite good :) 17:36 Krock rubenwardy, other claiming mods would mess up the whole system there. It's currently not made to support different shaped areas 18:03 Calinou enabled-by-default CSM sounds better to me than disabled-by-default 18:03 Calinou if it's disabled by default, then clueless server admins will never enable it so you can't use client-improving features on most servers… 18:03 Calinou (rule of open source gaming: assume server admins are clueless unless proven otherwise) 18:04 paramat and cheaters then have the advantage 18:04 paramat if they're clueless then the default should obviously be the safest option 18:05 paramat server owners have priority over cheaters obviously 18:05 VanessaE first rule of client-server interaction: both should assume the other is malicious/ 18:06 VanessaE combine that with "rule of least surprise" 18:16 rubenwardy I'll just drop this here: https://mirven.github.io/underscore.lua/ 18:18 rubenwardy makes loading data easier for me: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/7c515e6d1a08bfdd1710b88bb14f5f8e 18:20 Krock eeks. that dude uses spaces for indents in the examples 18:21 kaeza greetings 18:21 rubenwardy nice library though 18:21 rubenwardy should include it with MT :) 18:23 Krock now get a lawyer and ask if MIT is LGPL compatible 18:23 red-001 MIT is almost anything compatible 18:24 red-001 ask if LGPL is going to have an ideological issue with it 19:01 IhrFussel As soon as I switch to the graphic mode the screen is corrupted...as long as I stay in text mode everything looks fine and NOBODY can tell me if it's an issue with my monitor or my GPU 19:02 IhrFussel I called 5 different IT services, asked in #ubuntu and some other IT channels 19:10 KaadmY IhrFussel: corrupted, as in like what? 19:10 KaadmY t 19:10 Fixer Calinou: not only opensource 19:11 IhrFussel It is the Xubuntu desktop background (no icons) and when I press keys I see windows flicker on screen...when I move the mouse the screen turns into different colors 19:14 IhrFussel I mean the makes a vertical stripe when moving the mouse and that stripe follows the mouse position...when I move my cursor to a certain spot the entire screen refreshes and is blue again 19:15 IhrFussel Something I observed: lshw does NOT mention a driver in use for my integrated chip (not sure if that's normal) 19:16 IhrFussel The line only says latency: 0 whereas it should say "driver=[type]" 19:16 tenplus1 hi folks 19:17 IhrFussel Hi tenplus1, I'm so frustrated 19:17 tenplus1 hi fussel, whassup ? 19:17 Krock hi tenplus1 19:18 tenplus1 hey krock o/ 19:18 IhrFussel Read a few messages back in the log if you got the time 19:18 tenplus1 checking 19:19 IhrFussel It's about my new pc...it arrived and seemed to work perfectly fine UNTIL I tried to load the desktop ... Btw it even has 8 GB RAM not 4 19:20 tenplus1 ooh, nice memory :) trouble with monitor settings... what kinda monitor u got ? 19:20 IhrFussel TFT...so you think it is likely the monitor? 19:21 tenplus1 also if you have xubuntu desktop up and active, go into settings and windows advanced and turn compositing OFF 19:21 tenplus1 will stop flicker 19:22 IhrFussel It's not just the flicker...the whole X mode is corrupted I can only work with terminal (ctrl+alt+f1) AS SOON as I switch back to f7 the screen is corrupted again 19:23 tenplus1 damn, you using 14.04 ? 19:23 tenplus1 also what gfx card does your new system have ? 19:24 IhrFussel Yes still the stick with 14.04 and I go into "try before installing" mode ... If the GPU was damaged the text mode wouldn't work flawlessly...right? 19:25 tenplus1 depends... sometimes text modes will appear but anything graphical is an issue... what gfx card do you have ? 19:25 IhrFussel It's just the integrated one...but is it normal that no driver is mentioned in lshw? 19:25 tenplus1 try lspci 19:26 IhrFussel One sec booting up again 19:31 IhrFussel WHAT?? It suddenly works now 19:32 tenplus1 w00t 19:32 IhrFussel Was the VGA cable too loose maybe? 19:32 tenplus1 could be loose connection on cable or card itself :) 19:32 tenplus1 you sitting on a new desktop ? 19:33 IhrFussel Here? On via Android...I really hope it is not some kind of "sometimes works other times not" issue xo 19:34 tenplus1 I would open desktop and reseat all cards to be sure :) and cabled 19:34 IhrFussel Loose cables can cause such corruptions in graphic mode? 19:34 tenplus1 oh yes 19:35 tenplus1 since it's working now I would update to 16.04 to get all the new drivers and kernel 19:36 IhrFussel First I need to install it to my 1 TB HDD now :D 19:36 tenplus1 ooh, good point :) ehe, thought it was already on desky 19:42 IhrFussel Even if you tell to NOT download updates when installing it still does x.x 19:43 tenplus1 it shouldnt... 19:43 tenplus1 but so long as it boots ok 1st time you can run update manager and move to 16.04.3 after 19:43 IhrFussel Well I didn't enable "download software" 19:44 IhrFussel Oh oh houston we have a problem...my stick has 32 bit xubuntu... 19:44 IhrFussel You can't update from 32 to 64 correct? 19:45 tenplus1 you COULD install that for now and downlaod the 64-bit .iso for the newer version and redo the flash drive 19:45 tenplus1 nope 19:45 tenplus1 upgrading from 32-bit to 64-bit is a lot of hassle and editing filed 19:45 IhrFussel 32 will still work like before with 64 bit CPU? Just slower? 19:45 tenplus1 it'll run fine :) 19:46 tenplus1 just not access all of the memory available, only 3.5gb limit 19:47 IhrFussel Ok^^ well the seller just told me this morning "oh and it's 8 gigs not 4" ... But he didn't up the price 19:47 Krock double the price 19:48 tenplus1 ehehe 19:48 tenplus1 install 14.04 32-bit as normal, boot into it and download 64-bit iso for new version and make a new flash drive to isntall from 19:49 Calinou what's the go-to creative server for nice builds? 19:49 IhrFussel Best software to make the live stick? 19:49 Calinou I need to take screenshots for minetest.net one day… :) 19:49 Calinou (with buildings, mods, possibly other players) 19:49 tenplus1 fussel, it comes with "USB Disc Creator" built in already 19:50 Calinou I'm not a good builder so I have nothing in singleplayer 19:50 IhrFussel So I just choose the iso and that's it? I need it tobe as simple as possible xP 19:51 tenplus1 https://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/#lts 19:51 tenplus1 go there, download the .iso for the 64-bit xubuntu 19:51 tenplus1 and use USB Disc Creator to write it to your usb flash drive to make it bootable :) nice n easy 19:52 IhrFussel It saye64 bit AMD ... Mine isn't AMD o.o 19:53 tenplus1 that's ok 19:53 tenplus1 64-bit amd is fine :))) 19:53 tenplus1 it'll work perfectly on intel as well 19:53 IhrFussel Will work with pentium dou....sure? 19:53 tenplus1 yes, sure :) 19:53 tenplus1 I have an intel setup and use the 64-bit amd iso for install also 19:54 Donbatman the duo processor is 32 bit 19:54 Fixer disc or disk? 19:54 IhrFussel Donbatman I saw 64 bit 19:55 IhrFussel The CPU has lm flag which usually means 64 19:55 tenplus1 hi Don :) 19:55 Donbatman hi ten 19:55 tenplus1 do you have a spare flashd rive handy fussel ? 19:56 IhrFussel No I only have one...let me make sure that it's really 64 19:56 Calinou I think Core Duo is 64-bit, not sure 19:56 Calinou Core 2 Duo definitely is 64-bit 19:56 Donbatman if the processor is an intel duo then it is 32 bit. if it is dual core then it is 64 19:56 Calinou (don't use 32-bit when you can use 64-bit!) 19:56 Donbatman I have a duo and it is 32 bit 19:57 Donbatman the duo is a single core processor that kind of acts like a dual core 19:57 tenplus1 hi lisac 19:57 tenplus1 wb raven 19:57 Donbatman hi lisac 19:58 tenplus1 fussel, you can install HARDINFO and click on CPU to double check model.specs 19:58 Raven262 Odd, very very odd 19:58 Raven262 I mean my internet connection 19:58 tenplus1 ? 19:58 Raven262 I lost connection 19:59 Raven262 I thought it was my home installation 19:59 Raven262 well i have some cables lying around 19:59 Raven262 and they sometimes disconnect 19:59 Raven262 but it seems this wasn't it 20:00 IhrFussel Then I don't have a dou the exact name is Intel Pentium Dual-Core E5200 20:00 IhrFussel From 2009 20:00 Donbatman IhrFussel then use 64amd 20:00 tenplus1 yup, 64bit 20:00 Donbatman yup 20:01 Donbatman How have you been tenplus1? 20:01 tenplus1 good thanks, busy though... how's you ? 20:01 Donbatman Good 20:04 tenplus1 not seen you around for a while 20:10 IhrFussel Is there any way to see the GPU temp? I guess not with integrated chips 20:11 tenplus1 hardinfo is a tool for checking system info, if you click Sensors it may appear 20:11 tenplus1 failing that you can install psensor 20:16 IhrFussel Psensor works but only shows the temp of my cores 20:16 IhrFussel Should the graphoc chip have a similar temp as the CPU? 20:17 tenplus1 if it has a senson then it shoudl show up 20:17 IhrFussel Nope doesn't seem to have one... 20:17 tenplus1 but again you are using old version of xubuntu so you dont have newer drivers and support:P 20:18 IhrFussel Core 0 37°C 20:18 IhrFussel Core 1 39°C ... Ok in idle? 20:19 tenplus1 not bad 20:28 tenplus1 nite all :) 20:29 tenplus1 have fun with your new desktop fussel :P 20:45 Fixer IhrFussel: not bad 20:46 Fixer IhrFussel: my Pentium 4 2.8 GHz was quite colder 20:46 IhrFussel Guys is it possible that a LAN cable could freeze the entire machine? Maybe it's a (very unlikely) coincidence but my PC suddenly had a freeze now TWICE while downloading 20:46 Fixer don't think so 20:47 IhrFussel Fixer, if it happens again I'll send a screenshot of what my screen looks like 20:48 IhrFussel Also any clue what the red lamp inside the tower means? It's on the entire time 20:49 Fixer power on? 20:49 IhrFussel When I shutdown it blinks for 1 minute 20:50 IhrFussel The power on light is green and at the front, the red one is somewhere in the middle 20:51 rubenwardy IhrFussel, no, but it could be a driver thing 20:51 rubenwardy also, *ethernet 20:51 IhrFussel Driver errors?? 20:53 IhrFussel Also 3rd weird thing with this PC: After I power it off via the button it turns on again 5 secs later for 3 secs 20:54 IhrFussel Is that some kind of check? 20:55 Fixer Calinou: running Manjaro livecd in VM 20:55 Fixer IhrFussel: i hope you are not trolling 20:56 IhrFussel No I'm not trolling...the seller told me that's normal 20:56 Calinou Fixer: what for? testing? 20:56 Fixer Calinou: just to look 20:56 Calinou right 20:56 Fixer Calinou: also, AUR is impressive 20:57 Calinou I have Debian 9 and Fedora 25 VMs 20:57 Calinou yes, it is 20:57 Calinou (I need to upgrade to Fedora 26, by the way) 20:57 * Calinou starts up VirtualBox 20:57 Fixer it has even obscure stuff 20:57 Calinou yep 20:57 Calinou this is the upside of community-based things 20:58 Fixer visual-studio-code 20:58 Fixer kek 20:58 Calinou visual-studio-code-oss :D 20:58 Fixer 3rd in popularity on AUR 21:06 Fixer Krock: = no claims on this Y level is confusing 21:07 Krock so is the 4th dimension 21:10 Jordach Calinou, MS has been doing C/++ for nearly 4 decades, of course their IDE would be fantastic ;) 21:14 rubenwardy IntelliJ is better ;) 21:15 Jordach LUL 21:15 Jordach you mean the poor mans java IDE 21:15 Jordach Kappa 21:15 Calinou IntelliJ and derivatives are really nice 21:15 Calinou but none are actually open source, and most are paid 21:15 Calinou they also are Java-based, which means their font rendering isn't very good 21:16 Calinou however, if your language is supported, it remains the best IDE family… 21:16 Calinou (save for C++ on Windows: it doesn't support MSVC, only MinGW, currently) 21:16 Calinou (and has been doing so for 3 years already) 21:20 IhrFussel So are you telling me it's bad when the PC turns on for a few secs again after powering off via button? 21:21 Calinou that's weird, IhrFussel 21:21 Calinou never hard that issue on any PC of mine 21:23 IhrFussel It turns on, makes a click sound (guessing monitor) and turns off again 5 secs later BUT only when I shutdown AFTER the BIOS...if I turn off during BIOS it stays off 21:25 Calinou your PC is sentient! run! 21:49 IhrFussel Calinou, do you think that's critical or rather a (weird) setting? 21:51 Calinou I have no idea :( 22:00 Jordach IhrFussel, that click is possibly a PSU relay activating 22:00 Jordach my hifi makes a clunk on startup 22:00 IhrFussel Jordach, would that be bad or fine? 22:00 Jordach usually fine 22:00 Jordach sometimes very bad 22:01 IhrFussel Also I still cannot find anything regarding the red lamp in the center of my tower...I hope it doesn't indicate any failures 22:12 Calinou lol, at every RES release, there's a "I clicked on the megaphone" meme: https://www.reddit.com/r/RESAnnouncements/comments/6nhsjp/announcement_res_v580_release_chrome_edge_firefox/ 22:12 Calinou first one has 354 points 22:12 Calinou not bad 22:21 Raven262 wb lisac 22:24 Shara There was a batman! And I missed him! :(