Time  Nick          Message
00:56 ircSparky     would anyone like to spend an hour or two helping me make a minetest video?
00:56 bigfoot547    How?
00:57 ircSparky     I need "actors"
00:57 bigfoot547    What are these "actors" gonna do?
00:57 ircSparky     right, run, talk
00:57 ircSparky     basic
00:57 ircSparky     nothing too fancy
00:57 ircSparky     its for a "trailer"
00:58 bigfoot547    Well, I might not have an hour
00:58 ircSparky     ok
00:58 bigfoot547    trailer for what?
00:58 ircSparky     my server :P
00:58 bigfoot547    What's it called?
00:58 ircSparky     Persistent Kingdoms
00:59 bigfoot547    I see
00:59 bigfoot547    elkien3.com is ip?
01:00 bigfoot547    ircSparky, ^^^
01:00 ircSparky     yes
01:01 bigfoot547    If you can wait 30-mins or so, I can be on
01:01 ircSparky     ok
01:01 ircSparky     let me know when you're coming
01:01 bigfoot547    I'll be back
01:01 bigfoot547    I'll let you know
01:02 ircSparky     k
01:28 bigfoot547    ircSparky, I'm back
01:29 bigfoot547    I'm joining the server
07:17 tenplus1      hi folks
07:22 tenplus1      hi lisac
07:23 lisac         Hey tenplus1
07:23 lisac         Hi Calinou
07:23 lisac         sorry for us leaving yesterday
07:23 lisac         power loss
07:59 Calinou       lisac: ah
08:00 Calinou       lisac: do you live in the same household as Raven262? :P
08:05 tenplus1      hi Cal
08:12 tenplus1      Mobs Redo API updated with optimizations and a few fixes for default nodes
08:14 tenplus1      wb raven
08:14 Raven262      Thanks tenplus1
08:15 Raven262      I had a thunderstorm here yesterday, lost electricity for a while
08:15 tenplus1      ouch
08:15 Raven262      Calinou, and thats basically why i suddenly left the server.
08:16 Raven262      Yep, tenplus1, i didn't plug in my PC until this morning
08:16 Raven262      I didn't want it to get burned by thunder, so i went earlier to sleep
08:17 tenplus1      good idea, dont wanna break your pc incase of strike... das why I have a UPS
08:18 Calinou       Raven262: you're in the same household as lisac? I was wondering
08:19 Raven262      Yes, we are brothers.
08:32 * tenplus1    wonders how easy it would be to separate player from default and place inside it's own mod
08:40 tenplus1      hi Krock
08:40 Krock         hi tenplus1
08:41 tenplus1      do you think it would be an advantage to separate player into it's own mod ??
08:42 Krock         the player.lua file?
08:42 tenplus1      anything related to player itself... yes
08:44 Krock         hmm.. it's independent with the other "default" code, so it would be easily possible to do this. The problem is keeping the support with mods that make use of these functions
08:44 tenplus1      so that games who replace default. can simply use player. for most things
08:44 tenplus1      0.5.0 idea
08:44 tenplus1      since we'll break compatibility in that release anyhoo
08:45 Krock         question is, if it's going to break everywhere or just in the protocol
08:45 tenplus1      this will let us replace parts, add extra animations and features etc to players
08:46 Krock         indeed
08:46 tenplus1      e.g. in mobs redo to ride a mob I need 'default' only because default.player_attached is used instead of player.attached for instance
08:47 tenplus1      so dropping it into any [game] can be difficult without modification
08:47 tenplus1      also   default.player_get_animation could easily be player.get_animatino
08:47 tenplus1      *ion
08:49 Krock         all skin and armor mods would break if there's not at least a soft-dependency on default to provide backwards compability
08:49 Krock         (if possible)
08:49 tenplus1      true, but since 0.5.0 will break compatibility anyhow many mods will be changed to work
08:50 Krock         "<Krock> question is, if it's going to break everywhere or just in the protocol"
08:50 tenplus1      and a few function changes to player. is easy enough to alter... especially since minetest has changed many already :D
08:50 Krock         I'm not sure if there are API breaks planned yet
08:53 tenplus1      from what I read networking protocol changes will be implemented which means 0.5.0 servers need 0.5.0 clients to run
08:53 tenplus1      lemmie check this... brb
08:54 Shara         Morning all
08:56 Krock         tenplus1, yes. The network communication will break. But nothings know about the API for mods or the world support
08:57 tenplus1      ah
09:04 * Shara       wonders why the usual greeters ignored her and finds a corner to hide in
09:04 tenplus1      hi Shara
09:04 Shara         Nope, too late!
09:04 Shara         World clearly ended!
09:05 * tenplus1    offers Shara donut n coffee
09:05 * Shara       takes only the doughnut, then hides again
09:05 Shara         Tea? :P
09:05 tenplus1      {_}p <-- dainty tea cup
09:05 Shara         Yay!
09:06 Shara         Though when it comes to tea, I'm quite happy with a great big mug.
09:06 Shara         Or a bucket.
09:06 Shara         :D
09:06 tenplus1      that's a lotta tea :P
09:06 Shara         Yup!
09:07 Shara         tenplus1: Is there currently anyway for your teleport potions not to work if the coord is a protected area which isn't protected by the user?
09:08 Shara         They are being abused a lot on DL by people who teleport through walls to get inside people's bases
09:09 tenplus1      that would interfere with normal usage though, if a public TP pad was setup to go to a mine that was protected then player couldnt go there
09:09 tenplus1      will think of a way to lock/unlock areas
09:10 Shara         No, you misunderstand
09:10 Shara         The check should be when the coordinate is entered
09:10 Shara         So if I use a potion to go to my area, and people follow me through before it closes, that should work
09:10 Shara         But if I use a potion are enter a coordinate to YOUR area, it should fail to activate
09:11 Shara         and enter*
09:11 tenplus1      hi DS
09:11 tenplus1      hrm, gonna have to think about teleport usage and protection
09:11 Shara         That would mean any public teleport pad set up by an admin could still take players anywhere
09:12 Shara         I've got players in danger of leaving, since those who like PVP have started collecting coordinates of bases so they can just teleport there any time
09:13 Shara         It makes building a base to protect yourself redundant, but I really don't want to remove the mod
09:13 tenplus1      for now how about disabling teleport pad recipe and have them only use 1-time portal
09:14 Shara         That was done from the start
09:14 Shara         But for well established players, making lots of potions is easy anyway
09:14 Shara         I also had to chop out the irc mod's whereis command
09:15 Shara         Since they had learned to sign into irc, use that, then a potion to instantly find their target
09:15 DS-minetest   hi
09:15 Shara         I'm happy for people to PVP on DL, but they shouldn't be able to kill who they want any time they feel like, or get into people's bases like that
09:15 tenplus1      if I find any books or signs containing player coords I remove them
09:16 Shara         I don't think they are recording this in game
09:16 Shara         Updating potions to respect area protection would fix the whole thing
09:16 Shara         Hi DS-minetest :)
09:22 tenplus1      hrm, technical challenge to check protected area without teleporting player there 1st
09:22 DS-minetest   hi Shara :)
09:22 Shara         If the check is done when setting coord, that would be before the teleport anyway
09:23 Shara         I don't want to prevent a teleport if setting the coord was judged "allowed"
09:23 tenplus1      but that part of the map MUST be loaded to check for protection
09:23 Shara         Hmmm
09:23 tenplus1      areas stores all protected areas in memory and inside a file... protector redo checks require you to actually be there
09:23 Shara         That makes it difficult
09:23 Shara         Ugh, really don't want to remove the mod :(
09:29 tenplus1      hi Megaf
09:29 Shara         Hello Roary Tiger
09:47 Megaf         Hi tenplus1
09:47 tenplus1      o/
09:48 tenplus1      back laters...
09:54 Megaf         Hi Shara
13:26 Megaf         Hi Jordach
13:32 Megaf         http://imgur.com/a/yWAd1
13:32 Megaf         That's an old photo of my old Nokia
13:32 Megaf         To proove once and for all how strong they really are
13:33 bigfoot547    Hello
13:34 Megaf         Hey bigfoot547
13:34 Megaf         [10:32:29] <Megaf> http://imgur.com/a/yWAd1
13:35 Megaf         [10:32:39] <Megaf> That's an old photo of my old Nokia
13:37 DS-minetest   on a new photo of the same phone, the phone would be undestroyed again because … nokia
13:48 Megaf         I had two Nokias in my life
13:48 Megaf         Hated both, destroyed both
13:49 Megaf         all other phones I had were Motorolas, never had a single issue with any
14:08 kaeza         hi tenplus1
14:08 Megaf         he is not here
14:09 kaeza         preventive measure :P
14:09 Megaf         kaeza: I almost had a heart attack now. Was uploading my photo library, photos from 2005 to the cloud, and then I begin to listen some hard disk clicks!
14:09 kaeza         bom dia Megaf
14:09 Megaf         those loud clicks a HD make just before dying or failing
14:09 kaeza         Megaf, that's bad
14:10 Megaf         thankfully, it was not coming from my HDs, but from my phone! I rebooted it, and since its encrypted it clicks to warn that I have to input the password
14:10 Megaf         :D
14:10 kaeza         I had an HDD die on me recently. it's not a nice situation :(
14:10 Megaf         That's why Im uploaded dozens of thousands of photos
14:10 kaeza         heh
14:11 Megaf         the current batch is 10147 photos
14:23 benrob0329    Ndew desktop config stuffs: http://imgur.com/a/DkhOH
14:24 Megaf         I just turned on my air conditioner, after nearly 3 years
14:24 Megaf         (Im back in Brazil visiting my family)
14:24 Megaf         it made some interesting noises
14:25 Megaf         what kind of WM/DE is that?
14:32 tenplus1      hi folks
14:34 bigfoot547    Hi tenplus1
14:34 tenplus1      hi bigfoot5
14:35 Megaf         Hi tenplus1
14:36 tenplus1      hi megaf
14:36 Megaf         "Time For Pride" on Spotify, meh
14:38 Raven262      hi 11
14:39 tenplus1      hi raven
14:39 tenplus1      which mod is it that has a teleport pad that links up with a destination pad ?
14:40 Raven262      I'm wondering, did you set up your irc client to highlight 11 as your nick too?
14:40 tenplus1      lol nope
14:40 Raven262      xD
14:40 tenplus1      I use Pidgin for irc, so very limited usage
14:40 Raven262      I recommend hexchat
14:41 Raven262      Since you can place an image in the background
14:41 tenplus1      tried it, is very good but all my chats are through the one client to save me opening multiple programs
14:41 * Shara       has same issue as Ten
14:41 Raven262      Ah
14:41 tenplus1      hi shara... am looking for a teleport mod I think you'd like on server
14:41 Shara         Ohhh, okay :D
14:41 tenplus1      it has you place outgoing portal/pad and arrival pad so taht players MUST place both for them to work
14:42 tenplus1      but for the life of me I cannot remember it's anme
14:42 Shara         I actually have a request for you as well. (another one, yea, I know :P)
14:42 tenplus1      *name
14:42 tenplus1      lol
14:42 Shara         I finally went ahead and opened my own fork of bewarethedark, so I can start building in some of the things I want for it
14:42 tenplus1      ooh nice
14:42 Shara         But I have no idea if what I'm change is just bad bad bad modding :P
14:42 Shara         changing*
14:42 tenplus1      found it, Translocators: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=17845&hilit=teleport+mod  check this
14:43 Shara         So would you be willing to take a look when I stick this on github?
14:43 tenplus1      lemmie see git link when you're done and I'll let ya know :D
14:43 Shara         Ohhhhh. This looks interesting
14:43 * Shara       saves link
14:43 tenplus1      translocators needs a portal on each side, so no teleport griefing into someone's house
14:43 Megaf         tenplus1: I migrated most of my stuff to Google Chrome man. Skype, WhatsApp, Hangouts, Office, all on Chrome
14:43 Megaf         less things open
14:44 Shara         tenplus1: I'm basically looking to use the hidden inventory system to add a mechanism to let moderators not take darkness damage
14:44 tenplus1      I like keeping things apart from browser just incase it crashes
14:44 Megaf         web.skype.com web.whatsapp.com hangouts.google.com play.spotify.com music.google.com
14:44 Shara         But not sure if I am doing this right, or even if it's a good idea / approach
14:44 Megaf         This is true portability
14:45 Shara         I'm playing with code I only half understand here :D
15:00 tenplus1      hi fussel
15:01 IhrFussel     Hello
15:09 Shara         Hi Fussel
15:12 Megaf         Shara: What'd be the fun if you dominated the code:
15:12 Megaf         ?
15:12 Shara         Megaf: I feed my code to tigers on a regular basis :)
15:13 Megaf         oh
15:13 Megaf         I better hide
15:14 Megaf         And I think travelnet is the best teleport mod ever
15:14 Megaf         the network idea is genius
15:14 kaeza         ^
15:15 Megaf         kaeza: Buenos dias, by the way :)
15:17 Shara         Megaf: Kind of depends on what fits the server in my opinion
15:23 Raven262      Calinou, wanna play Quake3 again? I promise there will be no power surges xD
15:23 Raven262      At least i don't see any thunderstorms nearby.
15:26 tenplus1      lol
15:30 Calinou       Raven262: I'll go for a walk soon
15:30 Calinou       so, not right now
15:34 Raven262      Sure.
15:38 Megaf         I still want a rail that works
15:40 Raven262      https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=14726  <<--- A rail that works.
15:41 Megaf         Great
15:41 Megaf         Now I need someone to build the network in my server
15:41 Megaf         We already dug the tunels
15:42 Megaf         and built the stations for the underground]
15:42 Raven262      They have to be 3 nodes wide for that mod
15:42 Megaf         we just need the rail and trains
15:42 Megaf         oh dear
15:42 Megaf         tunnels are like 5x2
15:42 Raven262      Well, you could use carts for that :P
15:43 Raven262      Also, this mod doesn't support 45 degree uphill route
15:43 tenplus1      hi calcul0n
15:44 calcul0n      hi
15:44 kaeza         greetings, tenplus1
15:45 * kaeza       wonders why he tried to tab-complete "greetings"
15:45 tenplus1      ehehehe
15:47 Megaf         I have to get my ex back to me so we can upgrade the undergraund infrastructure we built when together
15:48 Megaf         Raven262: anyway, thanks for the link, it looks brilliant
15:50 Krock         o/ kaeza
15:50 kaeza         o/ Krock
15:52 tenplus1      hi nrz
15:59 IhrFussel     If a website crashes the browser the webmaster of that site is doing something wrong by the way
15:59 red-001       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jre-aMAgP5I
16:01 tenplus1      hi red
16:30 Raven262      Megaf, I'm suprised you didn't know of it actually Oo
16:31 Raven262      I thought it is a rather popular mod
16:45 Megaf         well, Ive been quite away from Minetest in this last year
16:51 red-001       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBMOG_dTbWo
16:51 red-001       !title
16:51 ShadowBot     red-001: Error: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 4KB.
16:51 red-001       'Dynamic shadows with shaders! (proof of concept for Minetest :P)'
16:52 tenplus1      sweet, that looks awesome
16:53 tenplus1      any performance hits when using it ?
16:53 * red-001     hopes Blockmen will allow it to be backported
16:54 tenplus1      blockmen has been a busy chappie :P
17:05 Megaf         red-001: ok, now we can remove all other shader stuff and that stupid centered in the sky unreal light source
17:05 Megaf         and use actually the sun and torches to light everything
17:05 tenplus1      :PP
17:10 Megaf         red-001: how can I test that:
17:10 Megaf         ?
17:16 red-001       you can't
17:16 red-001       blockmen hasn't made any of the code public
17:28 * Megaf       mentally punches Blockman in his brain
17:28 Raven262      red-001, i see that blockmen has done many effects on his own like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV3pzd2Tz_g
17:28 Raven262      *blockman
17:29 Raven262      I have seen that he did many different water shaders actually
17:30 * Raven262    wonders why did he correct the correctly written name.
17:30 tenplus1      :P
17:31 Megaf         we just need two shaders, one for light sources and their shadows, and one for reflections, IMHO
17:45 Megaf         Get Lucky from Sopitfy actually sounds great on a descent stereo
17:48 benrob0329    Megaf: Bspwm + Polybar
17:48 Megaf         polybar, aha
17:48 Megaf         GTK?
17:48 benrob0329    Nope
17:49 Megaf         ok
17:49 benrob0329    I believe its based on Lemonbar
17:49 Megaf         Am I the only one who get a good feeling when opening my own website with Ghostery active and theres absolutely nothing to block:
17:49 Megaf         ?
17:49 Megaf         on my site I put no tracker/add at all
17:50 Megaf         Im qutie proud of it
17:50 Megaf         and its wordpress based
17:50 benrob0329    Nice
17:51 Megaf         Not even the Instagram plugin that get my photos from my instagram and shows nicely tracks users
18:05 IhrFussel     I just noticed sometimes when I dig leaves with the "plantlike" setting enabled my entire HUD refreshes for a fraction of a sec ... very weird
18:05 tenplus1      strange...  haev the fixed the flickering hand issue ?
18:06 IhrFussel     It still happens but less frequent...seems like they were right when they said my client mapblock settings were too low
18:07 tenplus1      :P
18:17 IhrFussel     I need to figure out what eats so much RAM in my Bash script...sometimes suddenly I see my script in top with 30+ % memory usage which is almost 1 GB
18:21 Megaf         What does your script do:
18:21 Megaf         ?
18:28 tenplus1      hi bigfoot
18:29 Megaf         wb bigfoot547
18:29 Megaf         tenplus1: you failed
18:29 tenplus1      I did ?
18:29 Megaf         it should have been wp not hi
18:29 Megaf         wb*
18:29 tenplus1      eheheh
18:30 tenplus1      *hi=wb   fixed
18:30 bigfoot547    hi Megaf
18:31 Megaf         tenplus1: careful man, might cause floating point overflow
18:31 Megaf         the 128 bit kind of it
18:31 Megaf         can you imagine a 128 FP overflow?
18:31 Calinou       <Megaf> I have to get my ex back to me so we can upgrade the undergraund infrastructure we built when together
18:31 Calinou       #PrayForMegaf
18:31 tenplus1      speaking of which, got the serialize.h error again using nothing but default... what gives ?!?!?!
18:31 Megaf         Calinou: I'd actually be happy if somebody did man =/
18:32 Megaf         the subway infrastructure is quite huge
18:32 tenplus1      infrastructure ?
18:32 Megaf         we built the tunels and stations
18:33 * Megaf       listenting to https://open.spotify.com/user/spotify/playlist/37i9dQZF1DX9loJQLuEvap
18:33 Megaf         well, I can show one or two subway stations we made if you care to join Megaf Server...
18:34 Bobr2         thank you
18:34 tenplus1      :P
18:35 Megaf         I got a weird bug in the latest master client minetest
18:35 Megaf         I just cycled F7
18:36 Megaf         and now I see in my screen the animation of action
18:36 Megaf         like using the sword or whatever
18:36 Megaf         but no action is been performed
18:39 Megaf         hm
18:40 Megaf         I cant ssh into my server
18:40 Calinou       also, I thought it was IRL underground infrastructure
18:40 Megaf         oh, no
18:40 Megaf         we hadnt gotten to that point yet
18:40 Megaf         we could tho
18:41 Megaf         she is architect and urbanist and I have some design/engineering skills
19:08 IhrFussel     Megaf, it's the MT Server chat bot, so depending on what players say in the chat it will do different things
19:29 Jordach       sofar, https://i.imgur.com/HAoatwA.png
19:30 tenplus1      lolol
19:30 Jordach       https://imgur.com/a/lWNqa
19:30 Jordach       here's more, caution, this is a 4chan album
19:31 Jordach       https://i.imgur.com/xiEDW7v.png
19:32 Jordach       https://i.imgur.com/BkInKnr.png
19:32 Jordach       tenplus1, https://i.imgur.com/i8zCJ0G.png
19:33 tenplus1      :pPpP
19:33 Jordach       tenplus1, https://i.imgur.com/1VM48LD.png
19:34 Jordach       https://i.imgur.com/kuYtWkR.png
19:43 tenplus1      hi lisac
19:50 lisac         Hi tenplus1
19:52 tenplus1      hi paramat
19:57 tenplus1      Q. should mob explosions use tnt.boom() from TNT mod for simplicity ?
19:59 DS-minetest   sure
20:00 DS-minetest   but tnt.boom destroys the node at the center
20:00 DS-minetest   and doesn't drop it
20:01 tenplus1      typically is creeper explodes the node at centre is empty anyhoo (it's inside creeper)
20:01 Sokomine      mob sould be safe from exploding. exploding isn't a very good way for a mob to survive. make them run away. these explosions are more than annyoing. yes, it might be needed in mineclone2, but it's not a good feature and ought not to be used elsewhere
20:01 * Sokomine    creates a virus that terminates all exploding mobs
20:02 tenplus1      it's an attack mode in mobs api... only 1 mob uses it so far and it's creeper
20:03 tenplus1      if I use tnt.boom from TNT mod then it handles drops and all function calls instead of me doing it all
20:03 tenplus1      hi fixer
20:03 Sokomine      they're griefers, those mobs. down with them :-)
20:03 tenplus1      lol
20:04 Fixer         hi
20:04 Sokomine      hi fixer
20:06 lisac         Calinou, Wanna play Quake3?
20:06 Calinou       ok
20:08 Calinou       I'm on hugo.pro:27961 again
20:09 Megaf         IhrFussel: whos the bot?
20:10 Megaf         Jordach: image editing from command line
20:10 * Megaf       has done that
20:11 IhrFussel     I use a Bash script as game bot ... it is easier to code in Bash than in Lua PLUS you can modify the bot contents runtime
20:12 * DS-minetest finally finished his csm_worldname mod
20:12 DS-minetest   https://github.com/DS-Minetest/csm_worldname
20:12 IhrFussel     Of course there are some functions the bot can't access, but whenever I can I use Bash for commands/features
20:12 tenplus1      Mobs Redo API updated to use tnt mod's functions instead of it's own mobs:explosion
20:14 Megaf         tenplus1: I dont use/have tnt stuff
20:15 lisac         k :)
20:15 tenplus1      tnt mod is disabled on multiplayer by default which is good, but mobs api only uses tnt.boom function to make explosion and handle drops and hurt
20:23 tenplus1      hi LazyJ
20:23 tenplus1      Megaf: I've amended it... if no TNT mod found it'll do entity damage only (hurt player/mobs)
20:23 tenplus1      that ok ?
20:23 LazyJ         Howdy tenplus1 ;)
20:23 Megaf         better
20:23 Megaf         LazyJ: !
20:23 Megaf         Hi :)
20:24 LazyJ         Howdy Megaf ;)
20:24 Megaf         https://open.spotify.com/user/johanbrook/playlist/2mtlhuFVOFMn6Ho3JmrLc2 (Playlist for programming) (Begins with epic song from Tron soundtrack, by Daft Punk)
20:25 Megaf         song is Sola Saller
20:25 Megaf         song is Solar Saller
20:25 Megaf         song is Solar Sailer
20:25 Megaf         there ^
20:25 Krock         too bad.. no Parov Stelar
20:26 Megaf         listening the playlist for some hardcore building;compiling
20:27 tenplus1      nite folks o/
20:44 Sokomine      hardcore building? sounds nice. show us a screenshot eventually
20:44 Fixer         holy fuck, we have outer and inner stairs...
20:52 Sokomine      didn't we have them for quite a while? or do you mean in mtg?
21:18 KaadmY        YASS SPECULAR WORKS.. KINDA
21:31 Fixer         Sokomine: in mtg
21:41 Sokomine      fixer: aah. fine. they're in almost all games anyway. glad they got added to mtg as well
21:41 Fixer         it is about time :-)
21:45 Fixer         ~Vaporwave~ time
21:47 Fixer         nice sporadic text aligning
21:54 KaadmY        Egh, worldPosition is wrapped when it gets too large in the shader?
21:54 KaadmY        But eyePosition doesn't..
21:55 KaadmY        So specular works, minus that
21:55 KaadmY        So as soon as the worldPosition wraps, specular goes borked
21:55 Calinou       specular makes no sense in Minecraft/Minetest by the way
21:55 KaadmY        Why?
21:55 Jordach       Calinou, yes
21:55 Calinou       1) the sun/moon position are usually not accurately reflected
21:55 Calinou       2) same goes for any block light
21:56 KaadmY        Yes
21:56 KaadmY        Who cares about realism anyway
21:56 KaadmY        If it looks good
21:56 Calinou       I remember seeing screenshots of Misa's texture pack (in Minecraft) with specular, it looked goofy and tended to reflect even in dark caves
21:58 * KaadmY      looks at the Minec***t Super Duper Graphics Pack
21:59 Calinou       I once used a 512x pack in Minecraft
21:59 Calinou       I remember the LBP Photorealism thing, that was a gooffest
21:59 Calinou       if you thought cferril1's Minecraft Enhanced was goofy...
21:59 Calinou       :D
22:00 KaadmY        I don't think I'll try to add bloom just yet
22:01 KaadmY        Since that would require screen space shaders
22:01 Calinou       AND EVEN MORE BLOOM!
22:01 KaadmY        YAS
22:01 Calinou       what about water reflections? I used a Minecraft mod that had that once
22:02 Calinou       and refractions
22:02 Calinou       underwater caustics?
22:02 KaadmY        Water refractions are easier I think
22:02 Calinou       the last one shouldn't be very hard
22:02 Calinou       it's just overlaying an animated texture on all underwater nodes
22:02 KaadmY        But reflections, refractions, bloom, all require screen space shaders I think
22:02 KaadmY        Caustics require knowlege of being underwater, which shaders can't get
22:03 KaadmY        Shaders are unique for the entire mapblock  chunk
22:03 KaadmY        So you can't change uniforms depending on node type or other factors
22:03 KaadmY        I think
22:09 KaadmY        Does anybody know where/when the world is wrapped back to zero while the camera moves around?
22:09 KaadmY        It's wrapped somewhere and I can't find any obvious pointers as to where it's done
22:20 paramat       i'll find the PR
22:21 paramat       #1119
22:22 paramat       https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1119
22:33 benrob0329    "Linux is too complicated!"
22:33 benrob0329    >literally has a built in manual
22:36 KaadmY        200 nodes?
22:36 KaadmY        At least I was on the right track finding that